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Re: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brooklyn #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Contact Karen Grego KarenG@mountzioncemetery.com. and ask her if they still take
photos of gravestones and how much. They also provide copies of burial cards.
Regards,
Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine,
Bronx and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

----- Original Message -----
Subject: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brooklyn
Discovered great parents and a grand-uncle buried at Mt. Zion in Brooklyn.
Anyone out that way who would be kind enough to visit and take a digital
photo?

Robert A. Dodell
Scottsdale, Arizona
RADodell@worldnet.att.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brooklyn #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Contact Karen Grego KarenG@mountzioncemetery.com. and ask her if they still take
photos of gravestones and how much. They also provide copies of burial cards.
Regards,
Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine,
Bronx and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

----- Original Message -----
Subject: Mt. Zion Cemetery, Brooklyn
Discovered great parents and a grand-uncle buried at Mt. Zion in Brooklyn.
Anyone out that way who would be kind enough to visit and take a digital
photo?

Robert A. Dodell
Scottsdale, Arizona
RADodell@worldnet.att.net


Re: NYC accomodations #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

In regards to the original posting,

You might also consider staying at the conference hotel, but sharing
the room with a roommate or two.

There is a lot to be gained by being in the conference hotel.
You can leave things in your room during the day, because it would be
easy to go get them if you need them.
You won't spend time traveling which could be spent networking or
doing research. (I've been in White Plains, and it's about a 40+
minute commute into NYC.)
Just being in the hotel (using the elevator or having breakfast, for
example), you might meet someone to chat with and compare information.
You will feel much more like "a part of the group".

Several years ago, I had a conference in NYC (not IAJGS). The other
rep >from our company suggested we stay in a nearby hotel to save
money. I found myself leaving evening events early to avoid being on
the subway or streets late. When I got to the hotel each morning,
people were already chatting over breakfast and coffee, and I felt
left out. And I felt I had to carry everything I might need during
the day, because I didn't want to take the time to go back to my room.

On the other hand, for the last IAJGS NYC conference, I arrived
several days early to do research. I found a roommate, and we stayed
near Chelsea, a less expensive area, much closer to NARA and the NYC
archives. We moved to the conference hotel when the conference
began, adding a third roommate. The hotel provided a rollaway bed at
no charge. (We also had a small refrigerator put in our room,so we
saved additional money by keeping snacks, drinks, leftovers, etc.)

Yes, it was "close quarters", but we didn't spend all that much time
in the room anyway. . . . We were fine.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC accomodations #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

In regards to the original posting,

You might also consider staying at the conference hotel, but sharing
the room with a roommate or two.

There is a lot to be gained by being in the conference hotel.
You can leave things in your room during the day, because it would be
easy to go get them if you need them.
You won't spend time traveling which could be spent networking or
doing research. (I've been in White Plains, and it's about a 40+
minute commute into NYC.)
Just being in the hotel (using the elevator or having breakfast, for
example), you might meet someone to chat with and compare information.
You will feel much more like "a part of the group".

Several years ago, I had a conference in NYC (not IAJGS). The other
rep >from our company suggested we stay in a nearby hotel to save
money. I found myself leaving evening events early to avoid being on
the subway or streets late. When I got to the hotel each morning,
people were already chatting over breakfast and coffee, and I felt
left out. And I felt I had to carry everything I might need during
the day, because I didn't want to take the time to go back to my room.

On the other hand, for the last IAJGS NYC conference, I arrived
several days early to do research. I found a roommate, and we stayed
near Chelsea, a less expensive area, much closer to NARA and the NYC
archives. We moved to the conference hotel when the conference
began, adding a third roommate. The hotel provided a rollaway bed at
no charge. (We also had a small refrigerator put in our room,so we
saved additional money by keeping snacks, drinks, leftovers, etc.)

Yes, it was "close quarters", but we didn't spend all that much time
in the room anyway. . . . We were fine.

Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


Accommodations in the NYC metro area for 2006 IAJGS meeting #general

HeyJudy123@...
 

I am in complete agreement with the advice offered to choose a hotel in
Westchester County as an alternative to more expensive lodging in Manhattan; it
is exactly the recommendation I would have made myself.

A few things to consider, however: How close is the suburban hotel itself to
the nearest "MetroNorth" station, which is the commuter train into Grand
Central Station? And, if it is not within walking distance, does the hotel
provide a shuttle bus back-and-forth to the depot? If the answer to this
question also is "no," then are cabs readily available--having lived in New York
area suburbs, I suspect not!--and how much would these cost?

Similarly, but perhaps more importantly, conference attendees staying out of
"the city" should remember that, if there's a late evening, they are going to
have to make their ways back to their hotels after hours. Even Grand
Central Station can be rather forbidding at those hours (the Port Authority Bus
Terminal being far worse), and the walk between the Marriott Marquis and the
terminal probably is one not that should be made without a buddy.

Thus, commuting expenses should be added to the hotel charges in calculating
the actual out-of-pocket costs of daily lodging. No two ways about it, New
York is an expensive city!

My conscience regarding these safety concerns compels me to post this
cautionary note.

Judy Segal
New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Accommodations in the NYC metro area for 2006 IAJGS meeting #general

HeyJudy123@...
 

I am in complete agreement with the advice offered to choose a hotel in
Westchester County as an alternative to more expensive lodging in Manhattan; it
is exactly the recommendation I would have made myself.

A few things to consider, however: How close is the suburban hotel itself to
the nearest "MetroNorth" station, which is the commuter train into Grand
Central Station? And, if it is not within walking distance, does the hotel
provide a shuttle bus back-and-forth to the depot? If the answer to this
question also is "no," then are cabs readily available--having lived in New York
area suburbs, I suspect not!--and how much would these cost?

Similarly, but perhaps more importantly, conference attendees staying out of
"the city" should remember that, if there's a late evening, they are going to
have to make their ways back to their hotels after hours. Even Grand
Central Station can be rather forbidding at those hours (the Port Authority Bus
Terminal being far worse), and the walk between the Marriott Marquis and the
terminal probably is one not that should be made without a buddy.

Thus, commuting expenses should be added to the hotel charges in calculating
the actual out-of-pocket costs of daily lodging. No two ways about it, New
York is an expensive city!

My conscience regarding these safety concerns compels me to post this
cautionary note.

Judy Segal
New York City


VM6844 - identify jewish pin from WW2 or earlier #general

Jennifer_Lander@...
 

Hello! Can you please help me out? My grandfather brought this pin back
from Germany after the war - he fought for the allied forces against the
Nazi's. I am very curious as to the origins of this pin. Who would have
worn it, and what did it symbolize? If anyone can help, please reply
directly to me - jennifer_lander@facing.org.

Thank you in advance,
Jennifer J. Lander

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6844


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM6844 - identify jewish pin from WW2 or earlier #general

Jennifer_Lander@...
 

Hello! Can you please help me out? My grandfather brought this pin back
from Germany after the war - he fought for the allied forces against the
Nazi's. I am very curious as to the origins of this pin. Who would have
worn it, and what did it symbolize? If anyone can help, please reply
directly to me - jennifer_lander@facing.org.

Thank you in advance,
Jennifer J. Lander

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6844


VM6845 - identify photo 1946 Miami #general

Jennifer_Lander@...
 

Hello! Can you please help me out?I found this photo in a mix of my
family photos - family "LANDER" and "SHORT". Nobody in my family could
identify this man, can anyone help out? The picture was taken in Miami
Florida, around 1946. If anyone can help, please reply directly to me -
jennifer_lander@facing.org.

Thank you in advance,
Jennifer J. Lander

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6845


Re: Education of immigrants #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Children were quite adaptable in those days as they still are and most
immigrant children learned enough English to get through school and some
went onto college when they found a way to finance their higher education.
Their parents encouraged them and then hoped that the education they
obtained would allow them to share in the American dream which it did.

As an example, my father's mother and her three sisters, born between 1880
and 1895, came to New York >from Lithuania in 1903. The three eldest who
were 18 or older went immediately to classes at night at the YWHA to learn
English and got jobs during the day. The youngest, then 8 years old, was
enrolled in an elementary school in an appropriate grade to her age in New
York City then in Paterson, New Jersey, when the family moved. She learned
English well enough as she went along to graduate high school with good
grades. She married and had children and they then graduated >from college
with honors, her son >from Harvard and her daughter >from Barnard College, and
then they went onto higher degrees. All typical of what our immigrant
ancestors and their children were capable of.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM6845 - identify photo 1946 Miami #general

Jennifer_Lander@...
 

Hello! Can you please help me out?I found this photo in a mix of my
family photos - family "LANDER" and "SHORT". Nobody in my family could
identify this man, can anyone help out? The picture was taken in Miami
Florida, around 1946. If anyone can help, please reply directly to me -
jennifer_lander@facing.org.

Thank you in advance,
Jennifer J. Lander

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6845


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Education of immigrants #lithuania

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Children were quite adaptable in those days as they still are and most
immigrant children learned enough English to get through school and some
went onto college when they found a way to finance their higher education.
Their parents encouraged them and then hoped that the education they
obtained would allow them to share in the American dream which it did.

As an example, my father's mother and her three sisters, born between 1880
and 1895, came to New York >from Lithuania in 1903. The three eldest who
were 18 or older went immediately to classes at night at the YWHA to learn
English and got jobs during the day. The youngest, then 8 years old, was
enrolled in an elementary school in an appropriate grade to her age in New
York City then in Paterson, New Jersey, when the family moved. She learned
English well enough as she went along to graduate high school with good
grades. She married and had children and they then graduated >from college
with honors, her son >from Harvard and her daughter >from Barnard College, and
then they went onto higher degrees. All typical of what our immigrant
ancestors and their children were capable of.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: education of immigrants #lithuania

Debra Price <dsprice@...>
 

A petite 14-year-old Jewish girl >from a small Lithuanian shtetl immigrates
to the United States in 1921. She doesn't speak a word of English--only
Yiddish. She lives with her uncle and aunt (both of whom immigrated much
earlier) in a town in Massachusetts. They enter the girl into the local
public school. How would the school handle the girl's education? Would they
place her in the grade where most 14-year-olds are, or in kindergarten,
elementary school or what?
Here is what happened with my mother, who arrived in the US >from Poland in
1928 at the age of 15. At that time, the school year was divided into two
semesters, A and B. My mother was placed in grade 6A, then skipped 6B and
went straight to 7A, then again skipped 7B and went straight to 8A.

Debra Price
Plainview, NY


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: education of immigrants #lithuania

Debra Price <dsprice@...>
 

A petite 14-year-old Jewish girl >from a small Lithuanian shtetl immigrates
to the United States in 1921. She doesn't speak a word of English--only
Yiddish. She lives with her uncle and aunt (both of whom immigrated much
earlier) in a town in Massachusetts. They enter the girl into the local
public school. How would the school handle the girl's education? Would they
place her in the grade where most 14-year-olds are, or in kindergarten,
elementary school or what?
Here is what happened with my mother, who arrived in the US >from Poland in
1928 at the age of 15. At that time, the school year was divided into two
semesters, A and B. My mother was placed in grade 6A, then skipped 6B and
went straight to 7A, then again skipped 7B and went straight to 8A.

Debra Price
Plainview, NY


Re: Education of immigrants #lithuania

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

Can anyone venture an opinion based on the known experience of an
ancestor?
<...>
How would the school handle the girl's education? Would they
place her in the grade where most 14-year-olds are, or in
kindergarten,
elementary school or what?
Olga, times are still the same. A lot of immigrants come to Israel
with no knowledge of the language. Children go to school and they get
extra language help.

You should read a few of the accounts of the immigrants themselves to
the USA. I recall the very amusing The Education of H*Y*M*A*N
K*AP*L*A*N; there is the book The Rise of David Levinsky by Avraham
Cahan; there are many, many books, articles and memoires on the
education of the immigrants in those days to the USA. One of the
more scholarly ones is Rishin's The Promised City. Anything by Oscar
Handlin always makes interesting reading. Check your nearest library.

Martha Lev-Zion
President, IGS-Negev


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania re: Education of immigrants #lithuania

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

Can anyone venture an opinion based on the known experience of an
ancestor?
<...>
How would the school handle the girl's education? Would they
place her in the grade where most 14-year-olds are, or in
kindergarten,
elementary school or what?
Olga, times are still the same. A lot of immigrants come to Israel
with no knowledge of the language. Children go to school and they get
extra language help.

You should read a few of the accounts of the immigrants themselves to
the USA. I recall the very amusing The Education of H*Y*M*A*N
K*AP*L*A*N; there is the book The Rise of David Levinsky by Avraham
Cahan; there are many, many books, articles and memoires on the
education of the immigrants in those days to the USA. One of the
more scholarly ones is Rishin's The Promised City. Anything by Oscar
Handlin always makes interesting reading. Check your nearest library.

Martha Lev-Zion
President, IGS-Negev


Searching: KANTOR family (part two) - Vilna #lithuania

Michael Trapunsky <trapunsky@...>
 

Hi all,

I am trying to find KANTOR relatives who originally came >from Vilna and the
surrounding areas in Lithuania.

My great great great grandparents, Eliyahu (b 1818) and Faige (b 1821) KANTOR
lived in Paberze, Lithuania. They had the following children:

1- Mariashe KANTOR - Married Zalman SAPERSTEIN and had Nachum and Moshe.

2- Shaina Tziviya KANTOR - Married Aharon SHTAIN and had Kayla, Bella
Gutta, Abba Yoseph, Mairiase and Meir Leib.

3- Margola KANTOR - Married Avraham YEDIDE and had Yitzchak, Shaindel,
Yakov Hertz and Clara. I believe that Clara may have moved to the States or
England. Her children were Saul, Irving David and Eli (last name unknown).

4- Sarah KANTOR - Married Yehuda YESHIA and had Chana Kayla, Shaina, Golda
and Pesil.

5- Eliakum Shimon KANTOR - Married Rivka and had Leizer, Avraham, Eide,
Leah, Esther Sarah, Zalman, and Reuven.

6- Yitzchak KANTOR - I know nothing about him.

7- Shmuel KANTOR - I know nothing about him.

8- Miriam KANTOR - I know nothing about her.

9- Chana Hinde KANTOR (1845-1925) - Married David SHER. They were my great
great grandparents. They had Malka, Golda, Yakov Reuven, Mairiase, Shmuel
Hertz, and Eliakum Gavriel (1883-1938).

If anyone knows anything about these families I would really appreciate
hearing back >from you.

Thanks very much,

Michael Trapunsky
Queens, New York, USA
trapunsky@earthlink.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Searching: KANTOR family (part two) - Vilna #lithuania

Michael Trapunsky <trapunsky@...>
 

Hi all,

I am trying to find KANTOR relatives who originally came >from Vilna and the
surrounding areas in Lithuania.

My great great great grandparents, Eliyahu (b 1818) and Faige (b 1821) KANTOR
lived in Paberze, Lithuania. They had the following children:

1- Mariashe KANTOR - Married Zalman SAPERSTEIN and had Nachum and Moshe.

2- Shaina Tziviya KANTOR - Married Aharon SHTAIN and had Kayla, Bella
Gutta, Abba Yoseph, Mairiase and Meir Leib.

3- Margola KANTOR - Married Avraham YEDIDE and had Yitzchak, Shaindel,
Yakov Hertz and Clara. I believe that Clara may have moved to the States or
England. Her children were Saul, Irving David and Eli (last name unknown).

4- Sarah KANTOR - Married Yehuda YESHIA and had Chana Kayla, Shaina, Golda
and Pesil.

5- Eliakum Shimon KANTOR - Married Rivka and had Leizer, Avraham, Eide,
Leah, Esther Sarah, Zalman, and Reuven.

6- Yitzchak KANTOR - I know nothing about him.

7- Shmuel KANTOR - I know nothing about him.

8- Miriam KANTOR - I know nothing about her.

9- Chana Hinde KANTOR (1845-1925) - Married David SHER. They were my great
great grandparents. They had Malka, Golda, Yakov Reuven, Mairiase, Shmuel
Hertz, and Eliakum Gavriel (1883-1938).

If anyone knows anything about these families I would really appreciate
hearing back >from you.

Thanks very much,

Michael Trapunsky
Queens, New York, USA
trapunsky@earthlink.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Russian Translation - Marriage Record #poland

Ron Russ <rsruss@...>
 

Greetings,

I didn't know if anyone is willing to translate this record or not, but I
figured I'd post them and see. The ViewMate number is VM6853 and
the URL for ViewMate is http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html.

The contents are supposed to be the marriage record of Pinkus Schneider
& Chana Nudelman and are in Russian. Please send responses privately to
rsruss@comcast.net

Thanks in advance.

Ron Russ
rsruss@comcast.net


JRI Poland #Poland Russian Translation - Marriage Record #poland

Ron Russ <rsruss@...>
 

Greetings,

I didn't know if anyone is willing to translate this record or not, but I
figured I'd post them and see. The ViewMate number is VM6853 and
the URL for ViewMate is http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html.

The contents are supposed to be the marriage record of Pinkus Schneider
& Chana Nudelman and are in Russian. Please send responses privately to
rsruss@comcast.net

Thanks in advance.

Ron Russ
rsruss@comcast.net