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Online Jewish genealogy classes, September and November #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

Do you know who you are and where your family comes
from? Are you ready to start a family history project
but need some help in learning what is out there?

The holidays are right around the corner. Families
will gather and, hopefully, spend time talking about
their unique history, and recounting family stories to
the younger generations.
What better time to begin to preserve your family's story?

Basic Jewish Research (begins Sept. 1) and Jewish
Internet Research (begins Nov. 1) will again be
available online with co-instructors Micha Reisel and
Schelly Talalay Dardashti, at www.myfamily.com.

Each four-week for-fee class offers two lessons to be
downloaded each week, a dedicated class website, two
interactive chats each week and more, along with
limited access to ancestry.com's array of resources.

The Basic class includes an introduction, tools of the
trade, Jewish geography and Jewish names,
geography/archives/documents, immigration, websites to
search and how, remembrance and sharing of
information. This information will prepare you to
begin or continue your family history quest. Go to
http://tinyurl.com/dv2za for information.

The Internet class offers an nitroduction, searching
general sites and indexes, seraching genealogy sites,
searching Jewish general sites, indexes and resources,
JewishGen, archival resources, and working with
researchers and much more. This information will help
you to become a better researcher and learn how to
search for better results. Go to
http://tinyurl.com/dcrou for information.

More questions? Contact Micha Reisel,
micha@genealogy.org.il, or Schelly, schelly@genealogy.org.il

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
schelly@allrelative.net
schelly@genealogy.org.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Online Jewish genealogy classes, September and November #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

Do you know who you are and where your family comes
from? Are you ready to start a family history project
but need some help in learning what is out there?

The holidays are right around the corner. Families
will gather and, hopefully, spend time talking about
their unique history, and recounting family stories to
the younger generations.
What better time to begin to preserve your family's story?

Basic Jewish Research (begins Sept. 1) and Jewish
Internet Research (begins Nov. 1) will again be
available online with co-instructors Micha Reisel and
Schelly Talalay Dardashti, at www.myfamily.com.

Each four-week for-fee class offers two lessons to be
downloaded each week, a dedicated class website, two
interactive chats each week and more, along with
limited access to ancestry.com's array of resources.

The Basic class includes an introduction, tools of the
trade, Jewish geography and Jewish names,
geography/archives/documents, immigration, websites to
search and how, remembrance and sharing of
information. This information will prepare you to
begin or continue your family history quest. Go to
http://tinyurl.com/dv2za for information.

The Internet class offers an nitroduction, searching
general sites and indexes, seraching genealogy sites,
searching Jewish general sites, indexes and resources,
JewishGen, archival resources, and working with
researchers and much more. This information will help
you to become a better researcher and learn how to
search for better results. Go to
http://tinyurl.com/dcrou for information.

More questions? Contact Micha Reisel,
micha@genealogy.org.il, or Schelly, schelly@genealogy.org.il

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
schelly@allrelative.net
schelly@genealogy.org.il


Archiving of postings by topic #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

It is often commented on that a particular question has already been raised
previously.

It is true that many requests are about specific family or places, but there
are also many postings that are on topics such as the Canadian Census that
it would be useful if it was easy to refer to all such postings easily?

I assume that it is done because otherwise someone would presumably have
referred to a website or webpage where all such postings can be referred
to - so that the wheel is not reinvented.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

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and the JewishGen SIG Lists Archive (covering the period >from July 1998),
located at:
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offer an excellent tool in retrieving posts to all JewishGen lists.
Users are urged to check the archives before posting a query.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Archiving of postings by topic #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

It is often commented on that a particular question has already been raised
previously.

It is true that many requests are about specific family or places, but there
are also many postings that are on topics such as the Canadian Census that
it would be useful if it was easy to refer to all such postings easily?

I assume that it is done because otherwise someone would presumably have
referred to a website or webpage where all such postings can be referred
to - so that the wheel is not reinvented.

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen Discussion Group Archives (covering
the period >from September 1993), located at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop
and the JewishGen SIG Lists Archive (covering the period >from July 1998),
located at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop
offer an excellent tool in retrieving posts to all JewishGen lists.
Users are urged to check the archives before posting a query.


How to follow this lead #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

My grandmother's sister Rojie and her two daughters, Paula and Elvira,
are assumed to have perished in the Holocaust. We do not know Rojie's
married name, but I came across an entry for victims at Stuthoff which
list a Rojie SZEGAL (nee REISS) and her daughter Elvira. The dates make
no sense, however. They list Rojie's birth as around 1921 and Elvira as
1921. I can believe that Elvira may have been born around 1921, but it
would be impossible for her to be older than her mother! They both came
from Oradea, which would be correct. I know there are a lot of
coincidences in research, but a Rojie with a daughter named Elvira who
came >from Nagyvarad and had the maiden name Reiss would be a little too
much of a coincidence. Have I reached a stone wall? Leslie Weinberg

Searching

REISS (REISZ, REICH) Nagyvarad
EISEN, Tyczyn, Nagyvarad
IRAM, Tyczyn
BLUMENBERG, Tyczyn
DANSKOY, Nehzin Russia
NOVEMBER, Nagyvarad

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Re: How to follow this lead #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

Correction. Elvira is listed as having a birth date of 1912

Leslie Weinberg wrote:

My grandmother's sister Rojie and her two daughters, Paula and Elvira,
are assumed to have perished in the Holocaust. We do not know Rojie's
married name, but I came across an entry for victims at Stuthoff which
list a Rojie Szegal (nee Reiss) and her daughter Elvira. The dates make
no sense, however. They list Rojie's birth as around 1921 and Elvira as
1921. I can believe that Elvira may have been born around 1921, but it
would be impossible for her to be older than her mother! They both came
from Oradea, which would be correct. I know there are a lot of
coincidences in research, but a Rojie with a daughter named Elvira who
came >from Nagyvarad and had the maiden name Reiss would be a little too
much of a coincidence. Have I reached a stone wall? Leslie Weinberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen How to follow this lead #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

My grandmother's sister Rojie and her two daughters, Paula and Elvira,
are assumed to have perished in the Holocaust. We do not know Rojie's
married name, but I came across an entry for victims at Stuthoff which
list a Rojie SZEGAL (nee REISS) and her daughter Elvira. The dates make
no sense, however. They list Rojie's birth as around 1921 and Elvira as
1921. I can believe that Elvira may have been born around 1921, but it
would be impossible for her to be older than her mother! They both came
from Oradea, which would be correct. I know there are a lot of
coincidences in research, but a Rojie with a daughter named Elvira who
came >from Nagyvarad and had the maiden name Reiss would be a little too
much of a coincidence. Have I reached a stone wall? Leslie Weinberg

Searching

REISS (REISZ, REICH) Nagyvarad
EISEN, Tyczyn, Nagyvarad
IRAM, Tyczyn
BLUMENBERG, Tyczyn
DANSKOY, Nehzin Russia
NOVEMBER, Nagyvarad

MODERATOR NOTE: Please see the following message for a correction.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to follow this lead #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

Correction. Elvira is listed as having a birth date of 1912

Leslie Weinberg wrote:

My grandmother's sister Rojie and her two daughters, Paula and Elvira,
are assumed to have perished in the Holocaust. We do not know Rojie's
married name, but I came across an entry for victims at Stuthoff which
list a Rojie Szegal (nee Reiss) and her daughter Elvira. The dates make
no sense, however. They list Rojie's birth as around 1921 and Elvira as
1921. I can believe that Elvira may have been born around 1921, but it
would be impossible for her to be older than her mother! They both came
from Oradea, which would be correct. I know there are a lot of
coincidences in research, but a Rojie with a daughter named Elvira who
came >from Nagyvarad and had the maiden name Reiss would be a little too
much of a coincidence. Have I reached a stone wall? Leslie Weinberg


Re: Canadian Death Certificates #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: < aejordan@aol.com >
Can someone tell me what their experience has been in getting
death certificates >from Toronto, Canada >from either 1963 or
1971. Are these records open, available? In the United States
these records would still be considered confidential and only
available to direct family members.
As in the US, bmd registration is by Province. For Ontario I
went to
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/interloan/v-dintro.htm and
found:
The Archives of Ontario holds death registrations for the years
1869 to 1933.
An additional year of registrations and indexes is transferred
annually >from the Office of the Registrar General and
microfilmed. The 1934 registrations will be available to the
public some time in 2006.

After 1933 you need to us this form:

http://tinyurl.com/afjyt

Regarding entitlement to a death certificate the form says:

a. There are no restrictions on Death Certificates

b. Certified photostatic copies are restricted to next of kin and
their authorized representatives.

So you should be able to get the Certificate ($15) but not the
Long Form Certified copy.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv, Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Canadian Death Certificates #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: < aejordan@aol.com >
Can someone tell me what their experience has been in getting
death certificates >from Toronto, Canada >from either 1963 or
1971. Are these records open, available? In the United States
these records would still be considered confidential and only
available to direct family members.
As in the US, bmd registration is by Province. For Ontario I
went to
http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/interloan/v-dintro.htm and
found:
The Archives of Ontario holds death registrations for the years
1869 to 1933.
An additional year of registrations and indexes is transferred
annually >from the Office of the Registrar General and
microfilmed. The 1934 registrations will be available to the
public some time in 2006.

After 1933 you need to us this form:

http://tinyurl.com/afjyt

Regarding entitlement to a death certificate the form says:

a. There are no restrictions on Death Certificates

b. Certified photostatic copies are restricted to next of kin and
their authorized representatives.

So you should be able to get the Certificate ($15) but not the
Long Form Certified copy.

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurów, Galicia (now Zhuriv, Ukraine), NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia (now Ukraine), NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Poland
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


Viewmate 6687 - cause of death on NYC death certificate, 1930 #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

I'd appreciate opinions on the "Manner of Injury"
of Joseph SHAPIRO, who died in Brooklyn on Oct. 24, 1930.

His death certificate will be on ViewMate
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) ("To View" section,
file VM6687) until Saturday, Aug. 27.

I believe he suffered a "fracture of skull"
after being "struck by xxxxxxxx auto" in an accident
at "E. 96 St. & Kings Highway." It's the xxxxxxxx
that I need to decipher.

Thank you.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills, NY, USA
rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 6687 - cause of death on NYC death certificate, 1930 #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

I'd appreciate opinions on the "Manner of Injury"
of Joseph SHAPIRO, who died in Brooklyn on Oct. 24, 1930.

His death certificate will be on ViewMate
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) ("To View" section,
file VM6687) until Saturday, Aug. 27.

I believe he suffered a "fracture of skull"
after being "struck by xxxxxxxx auto" in an accident
at "E. 96 St. & Kings Highway." It's the xxxxxxxx
that I need to decipher.

Thank you.

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills, NY, USA
rsteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.
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The power of the JRI-Poland database, nearly three million names. #general

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

In April I was able to help a friend finding her Polish roots. Because the
story reveals the power and scope of the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
database I think it is worth recounting.

My friend in UK phoned in April, shortly before we were going to visit her,
and said she was interested in researching her family. An English friend
had dug up quite a lot re. her parents and the aunts and uncles born in UK,
but then they met the famous brick wall. She knew all 4 grandparents were
from Poland, no idea which town, no idea about grandmothers' maiden names
nor how to go about getting into Polish records. Could I help?

Her mother, born in UK, was a WASSERMAN, daughter of Majer who acc. to his
UK death certificate was born abt. 1865. Majer married in UK, his wife
might be >from Gombin which was one town name my friend had heard though
she didn't know where it was or to which grandparent it "belonged". One of
the UK papers showed her maiden name to be PITEL.

Her father was a LONDON, born in UK, child number seven out of 8 children,
first six born in Poland. His parents were Efraim Fabian and Fanny.

When we arrived I looked at the English information and noticed that
grandfather Majer WASSERMAN in one of the UK papers was noted as being
from Kols(sic), Posen and his mothers name was Ester KRITZMAN?. I kept
quiet, just opened my laptop and five minutes later I could show her Majer'
s likely birth 1867 in Kolo. Next day off to the FHC in London to copy 21
WASSERMAN records. Extracting those in the evening showed the ggrandfather
was Fajwel Eliaszowicz WASSERMAN, a divorced tradesman >from Kalisz who
married Ester KRAJSMAN in Kolo 1858.

Another search in Kalisz and next day back to FHC to copy >from Kalisz
films her gggrandparents' M record >from 1829 and the B record of Fajwel in
1832.

For the LONDON name we just did a simple < Exact spelling > < all Regions >
search and scrolled through the result. Suddenly my friend shouted(quite
literally): Stop!. Lo and behold, there was the marriage of Efroim Fabian
LONDON to a Fajga GOLDBERG and the birth of their first six children, the
aunts and uncles she knew. All were recorded in Pia,tek in Kalisz Gub and
indexed as part of the PSA project.

Finally, a search for PYTEL, < All regions > revealed Gombin as the PYTEL
town par excellence in the database, making it very, very likely Gombin
really is the birth town of her maternal grandmother.

Still a lot to be done but, within a few hours, we made very solid headway
into her Polish roots, thanks to Jewish Records Indexing- Poland.

Kirsten Gradel
Nyborg, Denmark
Kolo CO-OP and Town leader
Zamosc Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The power of the JRI-Poland database, nearly three million names. #general

Kirsten Gradel <kmgradel@...>
 

In April I was able to help a friend finding her Polish roots. Because the
story reveals the power and scope of the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
database I think it is worth recounting.

My friend in UK phoned in April, shortly before we were going to visit her,
and said she was interested in researching her family. An English friend
had dug up quite a lot re. her parents and the aunts and uncles born in UK,
but then they met the famous brick wall. She knew all 4 grandparents were
from Poland, no idea which town, no idea about grandmothers' maiden names
nor how to go about getting into Polish records. Could I help?

Her mother, born in UK, was a WASSERMAN, daughter of Majer who acc. to his
UK death certificate was born abt. 1865. Majer married in UK, his wife
might be >from Gombin which was one town name my friend had heard though
she didn't know where it was or to which grandparent it "belonged". One of
the UK papers showed her maiden name to be PITEL.

Her father was a LONDON, born in UK, child number seven out of 8 children,
first six born in Poland. His parents were Efraim Fabian and Fanny.

When we arrived I looked at the English information and noticed that
grandfather Majer WASSERMAN in one of the UK papers was noted as being
from Kols(sic), Posen and his mothers name was Ester KRITZMAN?. I kept
quiet, just opened my laptop and five minutes later I could show her Majer'
s likely birth 1867 in Kolo. Next day off to the FHC in London to copy 21
WASSERMAN records. Extracting those in the evening showed the ggrandfather
was Fajwel Eliaszowicz WASSERMAN, a divorced tradesman >from Kalisz who
married Ester KRAJSMAN in Kolo 1858.

Another search in Kalisz and next day back to FHC to copy >from Kalisz
films her gggrandparents' M record >from 1829 and the B record of Fajwel in
1832.

For the LONDON name we just did a simple < Exact spelling > < all Regions >
search and scrolled through the result. Suddenly my friend shouted(quite
literally): Stop!. Lo and behold, there was the marriage of Efroim Fabian
LONDON to a Fajga GOLDBERG and the birth of their first six children, the
aunts and uncles she knew. All were recorded in Pia,tek in Kalisz Gub and
indexed as part of the PSA project.

Finally, a search for PYTEL, < All regions > revealed Gombin as the PYTEL
town par excellence in the database, making it very, very likely Gombin
really is the birth town of her maternal grandmother.

Still a lot to be done but, within a few hours, we made very solid headway
into her Polish roots, thanks to Jewish Records Indexing- Poland.

Kirsten Gradel
Nyborg, Denmark
Kolo CO-OP and Town leader
Zamosc Archives Project Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Polish Translation from Viewmate #general

Joan
 

I am looking for a translation >from Polish for a
travel document for Eisig ADLER who lived in
Stanislawaw Wojewodskwa Galicia. This document is
dated 1907.

Any assistance with this translation would be greatly
appreciated.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6717

Joan ADLER

ADLER - Stanislawaw Wojewodskwa Galicia

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Translation from Viewmate #general

Joan
 

I am looking for a translation >from Polish for a
travel document for Eisig ADLER who lived in
Stanislawaw Wojewodskwa Galicia. This document is
dated 1907.

Any assistance with this translation would be greatly
appreciated.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6717

Joan ADLER

ADLER - Stanislawaw Wojewodskwa Galicia

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Re: Seeking DUB #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

When posting about a family, it would be most helpful if you included the
following:

1. Where they were >from originally . . . shtetl and country.
2. Where they lived afterwards . . . city and country.

Although I am not familiar with your DUB relations, I know that there is a
DUB family who left Lithuania for South Africa and some of them now live in
America and other places. You might like to try posting on the SA SIG
digest for more information.

You might like to also check the All-Lithuania Database.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The South Africa SIG is located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/
The All Lithuanian Database is located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/all.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Seeking DUB #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

When posting about a family, it would be most helpful if you included the
following:

1. Where they were >from originally . . . shtetl and country.
2. Where they lived afterwards . . . city and country.

Although I am not familiar with your DUB relations, I know that there is a
DUB family who left Lithuania for South Africa and some of them now live in
America and other places. You might like to try posting on the SA SIG
digest for more information.

You might like to also check the All-Lithuania Database.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net

MODERATOR NOTE: The South Africa SIG is located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/
The All Lithuanian Database is located at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/all.htm


Re: Americanized Polish names #poland

philapple@...
 

Inasmuch as your grandfather lived in Windsor, Ontario, a good place
to start looking for his original name would be his naturalization
record. The Canadian Genealogy Centre can be helpful. Try their web
site regarding naturalizations at:
http://www.genealogy.gc.ca/06/0603_e.html

Phillip Applebaum

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> My grandfather came >from 'somewhere' in Poland to North America around
> 1911. He lived in Windsor and was naturalized there under the name FOX.
> How can I find out what the Polish version, or similar sounding names
> would be? Is there a way to find some information regarding actual names
> and not just soundex names? I thank you in advance...
>
> Jan Fox
> Van Nuys, CA
> (Fox, Nisenbaum)


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Americanized Polish names #poland

philapple@...
 

Inasmuch as your grandfather lived in Windsor, Ontario, a good place
to start looking for his original name would be his naturalization
record. The Canadian Genealogy Centre can be helpful. Try their web
site regarding naturalizations at:
http://www.genealogy.gc.ca/06/0603_e.html

Phillip Applebaum

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> My grandfather came >from 'somewhere' in Poland to North America around
> 1911. He lived in Windsor and was naturalized there under the name FOX.
> How can I find out what the Polish version, or similar sounding names
> would be? Is there a way to find some information regarding actual names
> and not just soundex names? I thank you in advance...
>
> Jan Fox
> Van Nuys, CA
> (Fox, Nisenbaum)