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Search for Moritz (Moshe) WALDNER ancestors #germany

H.Peter Sinclair <peter@...>
 

Dear GerSigers
I am researching my maternal ancestry and hope to trace my
grandfathers's ancestors and siblings.

His name was Moritz (Moshe) WALDNER, born 1858 in Zenta, Hungary, died
26 April 1928 in Munich, Germany. He was married to Hilda HESS born 10
June 1869 in Schotten/Oberhessen, Germany, died 03 March 1943 in
Theresienstadt

Kind regards H. Peter Sinclair peter@...

German SIG #Germany Search for Moritz (Moshe) WALDNER ancestors #germany

H.Peter Sinclair <peter@...>
 

Dear GerSigers
I am researching my maternal ancestry and hope to trace my
grandfathers's ancestors and siblings.

His name was Moritz (Moshe) WALDNER, born 1858 in Zenta, Hungary, died
26 April 1928 in Munich, Germany. He was married to Hilda HESS born 10
June 1869 in Schotten/Oberhessen, Germany, died 03 March 1943 in
Theresienstadt

Kind regards H. Peter Sinclair peter@...

reply to Arline Sachs #germany

Joyce Field
 

In a posting to Gersig dated March 15 Arline Sachs mentioned problems
getting copies of data >from CAHJP.

Recently I have received permission >from CAHJP on behalf of two
JewishGen SIGs to computerize records at CAHJP for creation of
databases to appear on JewishGen.

If there is a proposed project by Gersig which requires records >from
and permission of CAHJP, then a Gersig coordinator should contact me
and I will work with CAHJP on behalf of Gersig.

Joyce Field jfield@... JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition

German SIG #Germany reply to Arline Sachs #germany

Joyce Field
 

In a posting to Gersig dated March 15 Arline Sachs mentioned problems
getting copies of data >from CAHJP.

Recently I have received permission >from CAHJP on behalf of two
JewishGen SIGs to computerize records at CAHJP for creation of
databases to appear on JewishGen.

If there is a proposed project by Gersig which requires records >from
and permission of CAHJP, then a Gersig coordinator should contact me
and I will work with CAHJP on behalf of Gersig.

Joyce Field jfield@... JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition

JGS-Johannesburg Meeting on 20 March #general

Meira Puterman <meira@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Johannesburg is pleased to invite you, your
family and friends to our March meeting this Sunday evening:

Workshop: Tracing your Roots Using the Internet

Speaker: Meira Puterman
Date: Sunday, March 20, 2005
Time: 7:00 PM (not 7:30PM)
Place: Beyachad, 2 Elray Street, Raedene, Johannesburg

Following our highly successful December workshop in which Meira Puterman explored
with us many useful avenues for genealogical research on the internet, we present
another interactive workshop.

This time the focus will mainly be on Litvak and South African websites. Using
family data >from the audience, Meira will show us what information can be gleaned
using internet resources. She has already found out much about her family as well
as other families through the 'net.

So bring your family trees and whatever family information you have - perhaps you
will strike gold!

Please arrive promptly in order to get the most out of this important workshop.

Entrance fee R15 per head including tea/coffee and biscuits

For further information, please contact Judy Gerson on 011-884-3126 or email
mrs.g@...

Thank you very much.

Meira Puterman
Jewish Genealogical Society - Johannesburg

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS-Johannesburg Meeting on 20 March #general

Meira Puterman <meira@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Johannesburg is pleased to invite you, your
family and friends to our March meeting this Sunday evening:

Workshop: Tracing your Roots Using the Internet

Speaker: Meira Puterman
Date: Sunday, March 20, 2005
Time: 7:00 PM (not 7:30PM)
Place: Beyachad, 2 Elray Street, Raedene, Johannesburg

Following our highly successful December workshop in which Meira Puterman explored
with us many useful avenues for genealogical research on the internet, we present
another interactive workshop.

This time the focus will mainly be on Litvak and South African websites. Using
family data >from the audience, Meira will show us what information can be gleaned
using internet resources. She has already found out much about her family as well
as other families through the 'net.

So bring your family trees and whatever family information you have - perhaps you
will strike gold!

Please arrive promptly in order to get the most out of this important workshop.

Entrance fee R15 per head including tea/coffee and biscuits

For further information, please contact Judy Gerson on 011-884-3126 or email
mrs.g@...

Thank you very much.

Meira Puterman
Jewish Genealogical Society - Johannesburg

Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando, March 21st Meeting #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

Monday, March 21, 2005 the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando, will
meet at 7:30 p.m in the All Purpose Room of the Congregation of Liberal Judaism,
928 Malone Dr.,Orlando.

Program: "Resources of the UCF Library" presented by Richard H. Harrison II,
Associate Librarian, Reference Department, University of Central Florida

All interested genealogists are invited to attend our meeting. For info and
membership inquiries:
Doris Frank, 407-323-9728. - dofrank@....

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando, March 21st Meeting #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

Monday, March 21, 2005 the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando, will
meet at 7:30 p.m in the All Purpose Room of the Congregation of Liberal Judaism,
928 Malone Dr.,Orlando.

Program: "Resources of the UCF Library" presented by Richard H. Harrison II,
Associate Librarian, Reference Department, University of Central Florida

All interested genealogists are invited to attend our meeting. For info and
membership inquiries:
Doris Frank, 407-323-9728. - dofrank@....

Re: 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory Guide and Index #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Dear Galitzyners,

I have received few inquiries of the general nature and about the listings
details.

1. Q To view directory sheets do I click RDF? Is that similar to PDF?
A. After opening the link, under the "Publication" click on "content"
and in a new window click on " Browse
publication".

2. Q. What is the information listed just below the town name?
A. This is information related to the communication facilities
available in this town.

For example in town Kolomyja (Kolomea) the following data is displayed:

a) C.k. centralne biuro telefoniczne - w c.k. Urzedzie pocztowo
telegraficznym Kolomyja 1
His Royal Majesty (HRM) Phone exchange (Central) located in HRM
post office and telegraph offices
Kolomyja 1.

b) C.k.publiczna mownica w c.k. Urzedzie pocztowo telegraficznym
Kolomyja 1
HRM public telephone located in HRM post office and telegraph
offices Kolomyja 1.

c) Abonenci
List of subscribers


Please note that some towns have all three communication facilities (Phone
exchange, post office and telegraph), but some have only one, two or nothing
at all, as it is the case of query #3.

3. Q. Why there are no names listed for town Rozwadow?
A. Note under town Rozwadow (page 179) refers to town Mikolajow n(ad)
Dniestrem.
BTW, Rozwadow had no communication facilities listed also in 1929
Directory (still listed in Mikolajow) with
only one difference that phone was now availble in Piaseczna near
Zydaczow.

------------------------------------------------------

Hidden names

It appers that there are many surnames not listed directly in the Directory
but there are still there.

For example: Maurycy Beschloss was pharmacy owner in town Biala (currently
known as Bielsko-Biala). His name is listed in 1929 Business Directory in
Krakow Province under pharmacies (Apteki) in Lipnik (Biala suburb), and I
knew for xertain that he owned the pharmacy prior to WWI in the same
location in Lipnik.

To my surprise I could not locate his name listed in Biala. But when I
looked in Biala listing under the title: Apteka "pod Aniolem" (Pharmacy
"Under the Angel") tel #358, it lists next to the pharmacy also his name:
Beschloss Maurycy, Biala-Lipnik, Hauptstrasse 54 and in addition to the
pharmacy street address it provides also his home address as Biala,
Ober-Kirchstrasse 3.

--------------
IMHO it would be prudent to establish a database for all the clearly visible
and hidden names (cross referenced to the business names where it is
applicable).

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab

Galicia Telephone Directory #galicia

Donald Hurd <donaldhurd@...>
 

I was interested to see the information about the online directory.

I found the following in the section for the town of Grybow.

"Zorn, Goldberger i Kohn

"a) kancelarya w Grybowie ul. Kodejowa 1. 909

"b) tartak parowy w. Kaklowej"

Could anybody help us with a translation or explanation of this entry ? The
a in Kaklowej has an accent underneath.

We think that my wife's grandfather Abraham Zorn owned a sawmill in Kaklowe
a small village near to Grybow.

Donald Hurd, Newfoundland, Canada.

Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory Guide and Index #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Dear Galitzyners,

I have received few inquiries of the general nature and about the listings
details.

1. Q To view directory sheets do I click RDF? Is that similar to PDF?
A. After opening the link, under the "Publication" click on "content"
and in a new window click on " Browse
publication".

2. Q. What is the information listed just below the town name?
A. This is information related to the communication facilities
available in this town.

For example in town Kolomyja (Kolomea) the following data is displayed:

a) C.k. centralne biuro telefoniczne - w c.k. Urzedzie pocztowo
telegraficznym Kolomyja 1
His Royal Majesty (HRM) Phone exchange (Central) located in HRM
post office and telegraph offices
Kolomyja 1.

b) C.k.publiczna mownica w c.k. Urzedzie pocztowo telegraficznym
Kolomyja 1
HRM public telephone located in HRM post office and telegraph
offices Kolomyja 1.

c) Abonenci
List of subscribers


Please note that some towns have all three communication facilities (Phone
exchange, post office and telegraph), but some have only one, two or nothing
at all, as it is the case of query #3.

3. Q. Why there are no names listed for town Rozwadow?
A. Note under town Rozwadow (page 179) refers to town Mikolajow n(ad)
Dniestrem.
BTW, Rozwadow had no communication facilities listed also in 1929
Directory (still listed in Mikolajow) with
only one difference that phone was now availble in Piaseczna near
Zydaczow.

------------------------------------------------------

Hidden names

It appers that there are many surnames not listed directly in the Directory
but there are still there.

For example: Maurycy Beschloss was pharmacy owner in town Biala (currently
known as Bielsko-Biala). His name is listed in 1929 Business Directory in
Krakow Province under pharmacies (Apteki) in Lipnik (Biala suburb), and I
knew for xertain that he owned the pharmacy prior to WWI in the same
location in Lipnik.

To my surprise I could not locate his name listed in Biala. But when I
looked in Biala listing under the title: Apteka "pod Aniolem" (Pharmacy
"Under the Angel") tel #358, it lists next to the pharmacy also his name:
Beschloss Maurycy, Biala-Lipnik, Hauptstrasse 54 and in addition to the
pharmacy street address it provides also his home address as Biala,
Ober-Kirchstrasse 3.

--------------
IMHO it would be prudent to establish a database for all the clearly visible
and hidden names (cross referenced to the business names where it is
applicable).

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab

Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Galicia Telephone Directory #galicia

Donald Hurd <donaldhurd@...>
 

I was interested to see the information about the online directory.

I found the following in the section for the town of Grybow.

"Zorn, Goldberger i Kohn

"a) kancelarya w Grybowie ul. Kodejowa 1. 909

"b) tartak parowy w. Kaklowej"

Could anybody help us with a translation or explanation of this entry ? The
a in Kaklowej has an accent underneath.

We think that my wife's grandfather Abraham Zorn owned a sawmill in Kaklowe
a small village near to Grybow.

Donald Hurd, Newfoundland, Canada.

Re: Registers, Census & Name Adoption Lists---copyright & sources #germany

MBernet@...
 

3/15/2005 Jeanette Rosenberg of London 106503.3561@...
writes:
<". . . I wondered what thoughts had thus far been given to work currently
subject to copyright legislation by individuals and local German History
Societies. During my own research I've come across many similar
documents that have been digitised by the local history societies working
in their areas where, on completion and in digitisation fo the work they
have copywriten the work. How would this aspect be tackled within the
proposed project?
Two examples I have come across recently are:
Work undertaken by Heimatkunde im Landkreis Saarlouis e.V. see:
_http://www.vfh-saarlouis.de , and also work undertaken by Das
Mosaik Archiv fFCr Familienforschung in Kleve
see (http://www.mosaik-kleve.com/) "

This is the general law in copyright. [I'm not a lawyer or legal
scholar but have been an author, editor, translator and compiler.]

You can't copyright an old, uncopyrighted work (say, the Bible, or the
works of Shakespeare) but you can copyright a recent translation,
commentary, revised edition, etc. These two organizations therefore
have a copyright on what they have collected, transcribed or rewritten,
but anyone can go to the same sources and transcribe/compile
/translate/edit the same works. And it's generally not unethical to
take a peek at the recent copyrighted work to get an idea or confirm
a guess or establish the original sources. (But care should be taken
that the new work doesn't appear too much like the recently copyrighted work.

It is often possible (especially for a scholarly or non-profit organization) to
come to terms with a non-profit (even pro-profit) author to use recently
copyrighted material either for free, or for a nominal sum, or in exchange
for the right to use and publish the newly-added scholarship. For instance,
we might get rights to a recently published list of names in a town, incorporate
them into a list of names >from the surrounding areas, or compile family trees, or
provide historical portraits, and in return permit these recent compilers to use
our added material to their next edition or add them to their collection.

It must be noted that in many cases, physical ownership of old materials gives
the owner the right to use and reproduce the information or the artifact (anyone
wishing to make Albert Einstein dolls has to obtain permission >from the Hebrew
University which "owns" the rights to his likeness).

As an example, the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish Peo
ple, in Jerusalem have the original registers, correspondence and records
for thousands of Jewish communities around the world (but especially in
Germany). They will make photocopies but with a proviso that any
subsequent copy must bear a formal statement of their ownership.
It might be possible to obtain permission to use their source materia
for free, in return for say, giving them a bound volume of our
end-product, or electronic copies of our new work.

I obtained the rights >from the Central Archives to electronically photograph
a now-fragile manuscript of the family trees of Jews >from the Bamberg region,
for use within my family for our research, in return providing the Archives
with a CD-rom for their use, with all the images copied in color, arranged
alphabetically, with index and supplementary information.

I would assume that the Central Archives and the Leo Baeck Institute would permit
us access to their collections and compilations under similar conditions. I know
also of some closely-held university collections that might similarly permit
limited use of original materials owned by them, especially when these are too
fragile to be made available to the general run of readers, or to be placed on
commercial photocopiers.

It might even be possible to obtain funding for our work, or
professional help, >from organizations or foundations, to create a
valuable new work. I am sure the new book on German-Jewish
family names by Berlin researcher Lars Menk will provide us with a
great font of information--even the list of his archival sources
which may be legally utilized (but not reproduced) will help
us establish much of what we need to create a family tree of German Jewry.

I understand that one group is currently working on establishing a
family tree for the Jews of Fuerth/Bayern.

Michael Bernet, New York

German SIG #Germany Re: Registers, Census & Name Adoption Lists---copyright & sources #germany

MBernet@...
 

3/15/2005 Jeanette Rosenberg of London 106503.3561@...
writes:
<". . . I wondered what thoughts had thus far been given to work currently
subject to copyright legislation by individuals and local German History
Societies. During my own research I've come across many similar
documents that have been digitised by the local history societies working
in their areas where, on completion and in digitisation fo the work they
have copywriten the work. How would this aspect be tackled within the
proposed project?
Two examples I have come across recently are:
Work undertaken by Heimatkunde im Landkreis Saarlouis e.V. see:
_http://www.vfh-saarlouis.de , and also work undertaken by Das
Mosaik Archiv fFCr Familienforschung in Kleve
see (http://www.mosaik-kleve.com/) "

This is the general law in copyright. [I'm not a lawyer or legal
scholar but have been an author, editor, translator and compiler.]

You can't copyright an old, uncopyrighted work (say, the Bible, or the
works of Shakespeare) but you can copyright a recent translation,
commentary, revised edition, etc. These two organizations therefore
have a copyright on what they have collected, transcribed or rewritten,
but anyone can go to the same sources and transcribe/compile
/translate/edit the same works. And it's generally not unethical to
take a peek at the recent copyrighted work to get an idea or confirm
a guess or establish the original sources. (But care should be taken
that the new work doesn't appear too much like the recently copyrighted work.

It is often possible (especially for a scholarly or non-profit organization) to
come to terms with a non-profit (even pro-profit) author to use recently
copyrighted material either for free, or for a nominal sum, or in exchange
for the right to use and publish the newly-added scholarship. For instance,
we might get rights to a recently published list of names in a town, incorporate
them into a list of names >from the surrounding areas, or compile family trees, or
provide historical portraits, and in return permit these recent compilers to use
our added material to their next edition or add them to their collection.

It must be noted that in many cases, physical ownership of old materials gives
the owner the right to use and reproduce the information or the artifact (anyone
wishing to make Albert Einstein dolls has to obtain permission >from the Hebrew
University which "owns" the rights to his likeness).

As an example, the Central Archives for the History of the Jewish Peo
ple, in Jerusalem have the original registers, correspondence and records
for thousands of Jewish communities around the world (but especially in
Germany). They will make photocopies but with a proviso that any
subsequent copy must bear a formal statement of their ownership.
It might be possible to obtain permission to use their source materia
for free, in return for say, giving them a bound volume of our
end-product, or electronic copies of our new work.

I obtained the rights >from the Central Archives to electronically photograph
a now-fragile manuscript of the family trees of Jews >from the Bamberg region,
for use within my family for our research, in return providing the Archives
with a CD-rom for their use, with all the images copied in color, arranged
alphabetically, with index and supplementary information.

I would assume that the Central Archives and the Leo Baeck Institute would permit
us access to their collections and compilations under similar conditions. I know
also of some closely-held university collections that might similarly permit
limited use of original materials owned by them, especially when these are too
fragile to be made available to the general run of readers, or to be placed on
commercial photocopiers.

It might even be possible to obtain funding for our work, or
professional help, >from organizations or foundations, to create a
valuable new work. I am sure the new book on German-Jewish
family names by Berlin researcher Lars Menk will provide us with a
great font of information--even the list of his archival sources
which may be legally utilized (but not reproduced) will help
us establish much of what we need to create a family tree of German Jewry.

I understand that one group is currently working on establishing a
family tree for the Jews of Fuerth/Bayern.

Michael Bernet, New York

Searching BLUMENBERG Relative from Tyczyn #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

We are searching for "unknown" BLUMENBERG nephew of my grandfather, >from Tyczyn,
Poland. Last seen in Israel in 1945, might have left for Russia.
Mother and father were Hene (EISEN) BLUMENBERG and Jonas BLUMENBERG,
grandparents Schewa and Chaim EISEN. He had an uncle Markus (my grandfather), an
uncle Moses, and an uncle in Nagyvarad (name unknown) and aunt (Ruchel- in Paris)
from his grandfather's first marriage. He was probably born in the time period
between 1921 and 1923. If anyone knows anything about this man and/or his family,
please email me at lbw50@.... The family here in the U.S. really wants
desperately to find him.
Leslie Weinberg
***
MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the JewishGen
Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and more
frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto
www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter and register
all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more
names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep
your own listings up to date.

Abe DREZNER of New York #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

In 1963 Abe DREZNER was invited to my wedding. I know this >from my mother's list
of invitees. I would guess that then he would have been in his 40s or 50s. I
believe that he lived in Brooklyn possibly at 145 Minna st. He would have been
related to Alfred FISHER or the GROSSMAN clan of Brooklyn.

Are there any of his descendents out there?

Shmuel Fisher
Shmuel@...
Fountain Valley, CA
***
MODERATOR NOTE: MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget
to list your surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/

KUURMAN? #general

Tonyc <caber@...>
 

l'm looking for conections (fam) of KUURMAN

Gooday and G'D Bless you and yours
TonyC B Kuurman

Remove nospam >from cabernospam@...
***
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provides a forum for researchers to post family names they are searching

Belarus Newsletter #general

Fran Bock
 

Dear Fellow Genners,

Please click on:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/landsmen.htm

for a new article by Bill Farran and Logan Lockabey, who discovered their family
connections via photos posted on JewishGen's Viewmate.

Fran Bock, Editor
Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
franbock@...

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching BLUMENBERG Relative from Tyczyn #general

Leslie Weinberg <artsoul@...>
 

We are searching for "unknown" BLUMENBERG nephew of my grandfather, >from Tyczyn,
Poland. Last seen in Israel in 1945, might have left for Russia.
Mother and father were Hene (EISEN) BLUMENBERG and Jonas BLUMENBERG,
grandparents Schewa and Chaim EISEN. He had an uncle Markus (my grandfather), an
uncle Moses, and an uncle in Nagyvarad (name unknown) and aunt (Ruchel- in Paris)
from his grandfather's first marriage. He was probably born in the time period
between 1921 and 1923. If anyone knows anything about this man and/or his family,
please email me at lbw50@.... The family here in the U.S. really wants
desperately to find him.
Leslie Weinberg
***
MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the JewishGen
Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and more
frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto
www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter and register
all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more
names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep
your own listings up to date.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Abe DREZNER of New York #general

Shmuel Fisher <Shmuel@...>
 

In 1963 Abe DREZNER was invited to my wedding. I know this >from my mother's list
of invitees. I would guess that then he would have been in his 40s or 50s. I
believe that he lived in Brooklyn possibly at 145 Minna st. He would have been
related to Alfred FISHER or the GROSSMAN clan of Brooklyn.

Are there any of his descendents out there?

Shmuel Fisher
Shmuel@...
Fountain Valley, CA
***
MODERATOR NOTE: MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget
to list your surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/