Date   
SHIMSHELEVICH/SHAPIRO #belarus

AlanMLevitt@...
 

I am relatively new to this research. My family >from Lubsch (Lubcz, Lybucha, etc.)
was SHIMSHELEVICH (and that is also spelled different ways). When some of the
family emigrated to Israel and the U.S. around 1930, they changed their name to
SHAPIRO (actually that is how they spelled it in the U.S.). I realize that many
did this to avoid conscription, but was that a common name then? Does anyone
know the origin of SHIMSHELEVICH? I know about Ben Zvi.
Thanks
Alan Levitt
Chevy Chase, Maryland

Belarus SIG #Belarus SHIMSHELEVICH/SHAPIRO #belarus

AlanMLevitt@...
 

I am relatively new to this research. My family >from Lubsch (Lubcz, Lybucha, etc.)
was SHIMSHELEVICH (and that is also spelled different ways). When some of the
family emigrated to Israel and the U.S. around 1930, they changed their name to
SHAPIRO (actually that is how they spelled it in the U.S.). I realize that many
did this to avoid conscription, but was that a common name then? Does anyone
know the origin of SHIMSHELEVICH? I know about Ben Zvi.
Thanks
Alan Levitt
Chevy Chase, Maryland

R' Kalman GARBER from Lithuania #rabbinic

meir yohanah
 

Dear group,

I am trying to locate any information on a Rabbi Kalman GARBER.
He lived in Lithuania in the middle of the 19th century. Any
information would be appreciated. Please respond privately.

Meir Yohanah,
U.S.A.

Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Kalman GARBER from Lithuania #rabbinic

meir yohanah
 

Dear group,

I am trying to locate any information on a Rabbi Kalman GARBER.
He lived in Lithuania in the middle of the 19th century. Any
information would be appreciated. Please respond privately.

Meir Yohanah,
U.S.A.

Odessa etc. #ukraine

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

hello kirsten (and all, i'm sending this to the group
as the links & tips may benefit others)

if you have the naturalization records, the best thing
for you to do is take the info on them (ship, port of
entry, date of entry, port of departure) and go thru
ship manifests to find your relatives. if they came
into ellis island you're in luck, as the manifests are
all online. there is a database at www.ellisisland.org
but there is a better one at jewish gen
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellisjw.html
where you cna search with much less information than
the one at ellisisland.org (for instance, if the
americanized surname was GOLDSTEIN, and you're
completely unsure of the original surname, you might
search on all males with surname beginning with GO or
even just G for a certain block of years of arrival.
if you know the ship name, that's even better. this is
how i found out my great grandfather, louis GOLDSTEIN
had been leib GOLDITSCH (i have also found 2 other
original surnames using this method. it takes a while,
but it can be done).

(BTW, there are 27 BAKALARs that i found, only 2 from
Odessa, Olga & Klara) as well as 8 BAKALARZs, 23
BACALs, and a family of BACALIARs >from Minsk) but also
remember that someonw may have said they came from
odessa, which was a larger city, when really they came
from a smaller, lesser known shtetl closeby (for
instance, if you moved to another country you might
tell people you were >from san francisco, because
they'd not be likely to have heard of morgan hill or
even san jose, that'd be likely to confuse your
ancestors down the line if they were to look for you
in and around SF).

also, for those of you who do not have naturalization
records, they can be had easily by sending an email to
the regional office of NARA that your person would
have lived in http://www.archives.gov/facilities/ .
send all the info you know about hte person & ask for
lookups. there is no charge for lookups and the copy
charge is only $10 no matter hwo many records they
send you (so don't be afraid to ask for 20 lookups,
you'll save yourself the $$ of having to send for more
and pay more later).

there is also an odessa listserv thru rootsweb:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/UKR/

good luck!

dayna chalif
san francisco, CA. USA

Subject: Wallock/Bakalar in and >from Odessa
From: Kirsten Votaw <kvfam88@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:43:48 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 2

I just found out my great-great-grandparents came
from
Odessa, around 1893, and thereafter lived in Upstate
NY (Cohoes, Albany County and Tupper Lake, Franklin
County).

My gg-grandfather, Joseph Mordechai, had the surname
of Wallock, but it could have been Wallach (or any
other variation) before the move. His father's name
was Yitzchak (Isaac, I believe) according to his
tombstone.

My gg-grandmother, Anna or Hannah, had the surname
of
Bakalar, though it was spelled Bacalar on their
naturalization record. Her father's name was Shlomo
(Solomon) Bakalar, per her tombstone.

I believe Joseph had at least two siblings (or
perhaps
cousins) named Abram and Edward, who also moved to
Albany County. Abram (or Abraham) was a rabbi.

If anyone has any info on either family or relatives
with those surnames living in Odessa, I would
greatly
appreciate receiving it. Also, if there are any
online
links or sources in Odessa or elsewhere that would
be
useful in my research I would appreciate knowing
those. This post is my first attempt to do research
in
Odessa and I'm sure there's a lot out there to try.

Thanks so much,

Kirsten Votaw
Morgan Hill, California, USA

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Odessa etc. #ukraine

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

hello kirsten (and all, i'm sending this to the group
as the links & tips may benefit others)

if you have the naturalization records, the best thing
for you to do is take the info on them (ship, port of
entry, date of entry, port of departure) and go thru
ship manifests to find your relatives. if they came
into ellis island you're in luck, as the manifests are
all online. there is a database at www.ellisisland.org
but there is a better one at jewish gen
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellisjw.html
where you cna search with much less information than
the one at ellisisland.org (for instance, if the
americanized surname was GOLDSTEIN, and you're
completely unsure of the original surname, you might
search on all males with surname beginning with GO or
even just G for a certain block of years of arrival.
if you know the ship name, that's even better. this is
how i found out my great grandfather, louis GOLDSTEIN
had been leib GOLDITSCH (i have also found 2 other
original surnames using this method. it takes a while,
but it can be done).

(BTW, there are 27 BAKALARs that i found, only 2 from
Odessa, Olga & Klara) as well as 8 BAKALARZs, 23
BACALs, and a family of BACALIARs >from Minsk) but also
remember that someonw may have said they came from
odessa, which was a larger city, when really they came
from a smaller, lesser known shtetl closeby (for
instance, if you moved to another country you might
tell people you were >from san francisco, because
they'd not be likely to have heard of morgan hill or
even san jose, that'd be likely to confuse your
ancestors down the line if they were to look for you
in and around SF).

also, for those of you who do not have naturalization
records, they can be had easily by sending an email to
the regional office of NARA that your person would
have lived in http://www.archives.gov/facilities/ .
send all the info you know about hte person & ask for
lookups. there is no charge for lookups and the copy
charge is only $10 no matter hwo many records they
send you (so don't be afraid to ask for 20 lookups,
you'll save yourself the $$ of having to send for more
and pay more later).

there is also an odessa listserv thru rootsweb:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/UKR/

good luck!

dayna chalif
san francisco, CA. USA

Subject: Wallock/Bakalar in and >from Odessa
From: Kirsten Votaw <kvfam88@...>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:43:48 -0800 (PST)
X-Message-Number: 2

I just found out my great-great-grandparents came
from
Odessa, around 1893, and thereafter lived in Upstate
NY (Cohoes, Albany County and Tupper Lake, Franklin
County).

My gg-grandfather, Joseph Mordechai, had the surname
of Wallock, but it could have been Wallach (or any
other variation) before the move. His father's name
was Yitzchak (Isaac, I believe) according to his
tombstone.

My gg-grandmother, Anna or Hannah, had the surname
of
Bakalar, though it was spelled Bacalar on their
naturalization record. Her father's name was Shlomo
(Solomon) Bakalar, per her tombstone.

I believe Joseph had at least two siblings (or
perhaps
cousins) named Abram and Edward, who also moved to
Albany County. Abram (or Abraham) was a rabbi.

If anyone has any info on either family or relatives
with those surnames living in Odessa, I would
greatly
appreciate receiving it. Also, if there are any
online
links or sources in Odessa or elsewhere that would
be
useful in my research I would appreciate knowing
those. This post is my first attempt to do research
in
Odessa and I'm sure there's a lot out there to try.

Thanks so much,

Kirsten Votaw
Morgan Hill, California, USA

Zvenigorodka, Kiev Gubernia, Ukraine. Tuesday, March 15, 2005 #ukraine

Daryn Beth <darynbeth@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Searching for families Belogalov, Zunder, Kutzko and
Mackler who resided in Zvenigorodka, Kiev Gubernia,
Ukraine.I believe that two or three Kutzko brothers
emmigrated to Moisesville, Argentina at the beginning
of the twentieth century. Berel and David Kutzko and
their families emmigrated to New York City in 1912-13.
Mackler, a hat maker emmigrated to Birobidjan with his
wife Toba Leah and their two sons during the early
thirties.

Doris Resnik
darynbeth@....

Birds of a Feather - Kherson Guberniya and Odessa #ukraine

Sarah LM Christiansen <SarahLMC@...>
 

I was part of the original Odessa group and Anita did some work for me.
While she did find some KHAIT(CHAIT) and PERCHIK records they are not my
immediate family. I did not try ZAGS because, my paternal great
grandparents immigrated to the US in the 1880s. They went to NY City
and then to Albany, where Fishel MEYER (born PERCHIK) was a tailor. All
but one of my paternal grandfather and his siblings were born in Albany
NY. I would definitely be interested in a birds of a feather group for
Kherson Guberniya.. My two great-great grandfathers were Joseph PERCHIK
and Solomon KHAIT >from the Odessa area, but as far as I can tell not
from Odessa proper. My father's maternal grandmother was Fayge
BIRGARDOVSKY MAGRUTSKY EDELBERG. (She was a widow when she married
Feivel EDELBERG). She may have been >from the city of Kherson or Odessa.
BIRGARDOVSKY was her maiden name, at least that is the way that Solomon
(MAGRUTSKY) DAVIS (he came to the US I believe with the name DAVIS) had
put it on his marriage license application no 4038 in NYC (Married NYC
on Feb 11 1912, when he married Grandpa's sister. The EDELBERG branch
came >from Kolonie L'vovo, an agricultural colony in Kherson Guberniya
(and not to be confused with the city of L'viv.) We already have a
shtetl links page for this colony.

Sarah L. M. Christiansen
Researching: ARONSON, BIRGARDOVSKY, CHAIT/KHAIT, EDELBERG, MAGRUTSKY,
PERCHIK SCHLAMOVITCH all >from the Ukraine
ANKIER, BIGOS, FROM/FRUM, KARMEL(EK), PERLSTADT >from Poland

Chaim SIROTA #ukraine

Gilda and Bob Kurtzman <gildak@...>
 

I am interested in finding the descendents of Chaim Sirota who was married
to Unknown Kertzman. The Kertzmans lived in Kulchiny. Chaim Sirota would
have been born about 1775 as he had a son, Baruch who was born in 1800 and
died in 1825.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Gilda Kurtzman
Petach Tikva, Israel
gildak@...

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Zvenigorodka, Kiev Gubernia, Ukraine. Tuesday, March 15, 2005 #ukraine

Daryn Beth <darynbeth@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Searching for families Belogalov, Zunder, Kutzko and
Mackler who resided in Zvenigorodka, Kiev Gubernia,
Ukraine.I believe that two or three Kutzko brothers
emmigrated to Moisesville, Argentina at the beginning
of the twentieth century. Berel and David Kutzko and
their families emmigrated to New York City in 1912-13.
Mackler, a hat maker emmigrated to Birobidjan with his
wife Toba Leah and their two sons during the early
thirties.

Doris Resnik
darynbeth@....

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Birds of a Feather - Kherson Guberniya and Odessa #ukraine

Sarah LM Christiansen <SarahLMC@...>
 

I was part of the original Odessa group and Anita did some work for me.
While she did find some KHAIT(CHAIT) and PERCHIK records they are not my
immediate family. I did not try ZAGS because, my paternal great
grandparents immigrated to the US in the 1880s. They went to NY City
and then to Albany, where Fishel MEYER (born PERCHIK) was a tailor. All
but one of my paternal grandfather and his siblings were born in Albany
NY. I would definitely be interested in a birds of a feather group for
Kherson Guberniya.. My two great-great grandfathers were Joseph PERCHIK
and Solomon KHAIT >from the Odessa area, but as far as I can tell not
from Odessa proper. My father's maternal grandmother was Fayge
BIRGARDOVSKY MAGRUTSKY EDELBERG. (She was a widow when she married
Feivel EDELBERG). She may have been >from the city of Kherson or Odessa.
BIRGARDOVSKY was her maiden name, at least that is the way that Solomon
(MAGRUTSKY) DAVIS (he came to the US I believe with the name DAVIS) had
put it on his marriage license application no 4038 in NYC (Married NYC
on Feb 11 1912, when he married Grandpa's sister. The EDELBERG branch
came >from Kolonie L'vovo, an agricultural colony in Kherson Guberniya
(and not to be confused with the city of L'viv.) We already have a
shtetl links page for this colony.

Sarah L. M. Christiansen
Researching: ARONSON, BIRGARDOVSKY, CHAIT/KHAIT, EDELBERG, MAGRUTSKY,
PERCHIK SCHLAMOVITCH all >from the Ukraine
ANKIER, BIGOS, FROM/FRUM, KARMEL(EK), PERLSTADT >from Poland

Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Chaim SIROTA #ukraine

Gilda and Bob Kurtzman <gildak@...>
 

I am interested in finding the descendents of Chaim Sirota who was married
to Unknown Kertzman. The Kertzmans lived in Kulchiny. Chaim Sirota would
have been born about 1775 as he had a son, Baruch who was born in 1800 and
died in 1825.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Gilda Kurtzman
Petach Tikva, Israel
gildak@...

Thanks for Hamburg Lists #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Dear cousins,
I want to thank everyone who sent advice re Hamburg lists. I finally broke down
and bought the records and they are of my SCHER family >from Pikeliai, Lithuania.
One very generous person then took the information and found the missing manifests
on EIDB.
Thanks group!
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY

Philadelphia Cemeteries #general

Leonie Flack <mail@...>
 

I am trying to find out more information about a brother of my husband's
grandfather, Saul FLACH, who went >from Kalisz to New York around 1889 and was
naturalised about 1896.

We know that he died some time between 1908 and 1913 in Philadelphia and wondered
which Jewish cemeteries would be the most likely to find his burial?

In the 1900 census the family, Saul and his wife Mildred (Millie) and their twin
boys were living in Wharton Street, Philadelphia. By 1908 the family consisted of
Saul and Mildred (Millie) had 4 children but I have not been able to find any of
the family in the 1910 census.

Depending on the information found in the census and also immigration index etc
Saul was either listed as Salomon/Solomon or Sol.

Any help with regard to possible Philadelphia Jewish cemeteries in use during 1908
to 1913 would be most appreciated.

Leonie Flack
mail@...
London, UK

Seeking: POLLAK Family #general

peter polyak <polyakp@...>
 

Dear all,
I am finding the cousin Sarra GREENWALD, born as POLLAK in 1947 y. Maramures,
Romania. Her mother Maria Pollak was survior after Holocaust and went to Israel.
Sarra with husband Israel GREENWALL in 1979 y. went to US or Canada. Can anybody
to help me.
Peter Polyak
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Seeking: OKS, GUZ or GAS in Argentina #general

susan sobel <susan_sobel@...>
 

I am looking for any information on Haim Zeev (Velvel) OKS >from Kremenets.
I am looking for any information on this man or his descendents. He was born
around 1910 and emigrated to Argentina in the 1930s. He was actively involved
with other Kremenetzers in Argentina.

I am also looking for information on Shlomo and /or Reuven GUZ (or GAS) of Kovel
born around 1900 and emigrated to Argentina in the early 1920s.

Thank you for any help you can provide
Susan Sobel
Herziliya Israel

susan_sobel@...
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Re: Did ECHOV/ECHOU come from JACOV #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

I would guess, without knowing more about the location, etc, that Echov would have
been >from Ek, short for Esko. I had a cousin by this name. It is derived >from a
Hebrew name, but not Jacob.

Sally Bruckheimer
Chatham, NJ

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thanks for Hamburg Lists #general

Ruth Hyman <ruth.hyman@...>
 

Dear cousins,
I want to thank everyone who sent advice re Hamburg lists. I finally broke down
and bought the records and they are of my SCHER family >from Pikeliai, Lithuania.
One very generous person then took the information and found the missing manifests
on EIDB.
Thanks group!
Ruth Hyman
Rockville Centre, NY

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia Cemeteries #general

Leonie Flack <mail@...>
 

I am trying to find out more information about a brother of my husband's
grandfather, Saul FLACH, who went >from Kalisz to New York around 1889 and was
naturalised about 1896.

We know that he died some time between 1908 and 1913 in Philadelphia and wondered
which Jewish cemeteries would be the most likely to find his burial?

In the 1900 census the family, Saul and his wife Mildred (Millie) and their twin
boys were living in Wharton Street, Philadelphia. By 1908 the family consisted of
Saul and Mildred (Millie) had 4 children but I have not been able to find any of
the family in the 1910 census.

Depending on the information found in the census and also immigration index etc
Saul was either listed as Salomon/Solomon or Sol.

Any help with regard to possible Philadelphia Jewish cemeteries in use during 1908
to 1913 would be most appreciated.

Leonie Flack
mail@...
London, UK

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking: POLLAK Family #general

peter polyak <polyakp@...>
 

Dear all,
I am finding the cousin Sarra GREENWALD, born as POLLAK in 1947 y. Maramures,
Romania. Her mother Maria Pollak was survior after Holocaust and went to Israel.
Sarra with husband Israel GREENWALL in 1979 y. went to US or Canada. Can anybody
to help me.
Peter Polyak
***
MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the JewishGen
Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more and more
frequently. If you have not already done so, please log onto
www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter and register
all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more
names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep
your own listings up to date.