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Posen BOF #germany

Joseph Fibel <JFibel@...>
 

Gersiggers,

I don't remember whether it was at the Washington Summer Seminar or the one
last year in Jerusalem. or possibly both, but a number of us whose origins
were in Posen agreed that it would be worthwhile to share research
information as well as questions and answers in a Posen BOF group. This
apparently never materialized, I guess because of a lack of a moderator.
Is there one of us out there willing to take this job on?

At one time Posen was separate and at another time it was part of East
Prussia, in both cases German speaking. Of course now it is part of Poland.
(Poznan)

It seems to me that there is a paucity of information and a great deal of
interest. Possibly we can do better together than we can separately.

Joe Fibel New Rochele NY <JFibel@msn.com>


German SIG #Germany Posen BOF #germany

Joseph Fibel <JFibel@...>
 

Gersiggers,

I don't remember whether it was at the Washington Summer Seminar or the one
last year in Jerusalem. or possibly both, but a number of us whose origins
were in Posen agreed that it would be worthwhile to share research
information as well as questions and answers in a Posen BOF group. This
apparently never materialized, I guess because of a lack of a moderator.
Is there one of us out there willing to take this job on?

At one time Posen was separate and at another time it was part of East
Prussia, in both cases German speaking. Of course now it is part of Poland.
(Poznan)

It seems to me that there is a paucity of information and a great deal of
interest. Possibly we can do better together than we can separately.

Joe Fibel New Rochele NY <JFibel@msn.com>


Posen List #germany

Joseph Fibel <JFibel@...>
 

Gersiggers:

I was surprised at the response to my mention of the Names List for Posen.
It certainly puts the kibosh to the feeling of many who have family roots in
the German speaking area and who have been doing such research for many
years that we don't need name lists similar to those in the Eastern European
Sigs because all of the information is so well known to all researchers.

For all of those who want copies of the list, I suggest that you go to
Avotaynu and get a copy of Ed Luft's book. It is in a format that makes
looking up names much easier than the actual list because he has
alphabetized all the names and my list arranges the names within each Kreis
(roughly equivalent to a county) and only then alphabetically then in the
Corporation (community) I guess these are roughly equivalent to an
incorporated area in the U S. This makes it difficult to find names because
you have to look through each Kreis and community until you find the names.

I'll be glad to look up your names but I can't make and mail copies of the list.
Either get Ed Luft's book or wait for James Bauer to do his good thing. Thanks

Joe Fibel New Rochelle, NY <JFibel@msn.com>

MODERATOR NOTE: James Bauer accepted the job of director of the GerSIG
Name Adoption List Indexing Project (NALDEX). Mr. Bauer is working with the
programing experts at JewishGen to design a format for the data collected by the
project volunteers.
The goal of the project is to create a database which will be searchable on line.
Once the format design questions are resolved I believe that Mr. Bauer will post
a call for volunteers and a description of what their job will be. The GerSIG
Research Fund will cover expenses required for the creation of the JewishGen
NALDEX Database. MOD1


German SIG #Germany Posen List #germany

Joseph Fibel <JFibel@...>
 

Gersiggers:

I was surprised at the response to my mention of the Names List for Posen.
It certainly puts the kibosh to the feeling of many who have family roots in
the German speaking area and who have been doing such research for many
years that we don't need name lists similar to those in the Eastern European
Sigs because all of the information is so well known to all researchers.

For all of those who want copies of the list, I suggest that you go to
Avotaynu and get a copy of Ed Luft's book. It is in a format that makes
looking up names much easier than the actual list because he has
alphabetized all the names and my list arranges the names within each Kreis
(roughly equivalent to a county) and only then alphabetically then in the
Corporation (community) I guess these are roughly equivalent to an
incorporated area in the U S. This makes it difficult to find names because
you have to look through each Kreis and community until you find the names.

I'll be glad to look up your names but I can't make and mail copies of the list.
Either get Ed Luft's book or wait for James Bauer to do his good thing. Thanks

Joe Fibel New Rochelle, NY <JFibel@msn.com>

MODERATOR NOTE: James Bauer accepted the job of director of the GerSIG
Name Adoption List Indexing Project (NALDEX). Mr. Bauer is working with the
programing experts at JewishGen to design a format for the data collected by the
project volunteers.
The goal of the project is to create a database which will be searchable on line.
Once the format design questions are resolved I believe that Mr. Bauer will post
a call for volunteers and a description of what their job will be. The GerSIG
Research Fund will cover expenses required for the creation of the JewishGen
NALDEX Database. MOD1


Searching SHATSKY, Joseph & Sidney, Los Angeles c 1940 #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG members,

With help >from Genners, I traced both Joe and Sidney to the Los Angeles
area. They were living in Cleveland, Ohio according to the 1930 census
records. I do not know when they moved to Los Angeles, but it was around
1940. I knew their sister Mary (Shatsky) POSNER who lived in Cleveland.
Mary had no children.

I am trying to find the children or grandchildren of Joe and Sidney.

I called Hillside Memorial Park in Los Angeles. They suggested that if I
call Groman Mortuary, they might have Josoph's records. They said that all
early records including 1960's were destroyed in an earthquake.

I have the marriage certificates of all three siblings. Their parents are
listed as Harry Shatsky and Anna FOX. Anna Fox is also listed as the mother
of three of my cousins in the WOLSKY (WOHL) family in Cleveland, Ohio. Joe
married Bessie SIEGEL. They had two children, Esther and Sidney. One
obituary was found for me but does not list any family members. It only
states that he died in 1965.

On the Cleveland, Ohio 1910 census, Joe Shatsky is listed as living with his
cousin, Solomon Wolsky. Anna Fox is listed as the wife of Solomon. Their
oldest children were born in Brest Litovsk. On Naturalization papers, Joe
and his siblings list their birthplace as Kehin, Russia/Poland. Several
people have tried to locate that town, with no luck, so far.

On her death certificate, Anna Wolsky's parents are listed as Hyman
GREENSTEIN and Sarah Fox. Anna died in Cleveland in 1912.

On the Cleveland, Ohio 1930 census, Sidney is listed with his wife Sarah,
and children; Max, Frances, Abe, Milton, Isadore and Martha.

The youngest child of Anna Shatsky and the oldest child of Anna Wolsky have
about the same birth dates. Without birth documents, I have to guess that
maybe they were one year apart. That still remains a mystery to be solved.

Either there are two women with the same name or Anna had three children
with Harry Shatsky and then married Solomon Wolsky. If Anna is the common
link, wouldn't Joe have been listed as a step-son, not a cousin?

For my family history story, I would like to find out what happened to Harry
Shatsky, and determine whether or not Anna is the common link to both
families.

I am hoping that this mystery might be solved if and when I can find the
familes of Joe and Sidney somewhere in the Los Angeles area, or anywhere
else in the world.

If any of these names ring a bell, please contact me privately.

Thanks in advance.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net
MODERATOR NOTE: One of the most heavily used parts of JewishGen is the Family
Finder (www.jewishgen.org/jgff). Please enter your own names/towns and also
search for others who are searching the same names. You might be able to make a
connection!


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching SHATSKY, Joseph & Sidney, Los Angeles c 1940 #belarus

Eileen Price <eileen.price@...>
 

Dear Belarus SIG members,

With help >from Genners, I traced both Joe and Sidney to the Los Angeles
area. They were living in Cleveland, Ohio according to the 1930 census
records. I do not know when they moved to Los Angeles, but it was around
1940. I knew their sister Mary (Shatsky) POSNER who lived in Cleveland.
Mary had no children.

I am trying to find the children or grandchildren of Joe and Sidney.

I called Hillside Memorial Park in Los Angeles. They suggested that if I
call Groman Mortuary, they might have Josoph's records. They said that all
early records including 1960's were destroyed in an earthquake.

I have the marriage certificates of all three siblings. Their parents are
listed as Harry Shatsky and Anna FOX. Anna Fox is also listed as the mother
of three of my cousins in the WOLSKY (WOHL) family in Cleveland, Ohio. Joe
married Bessie SIEGEL. They had two children, Esther and Sidney. One
obituary was found for me but does not list any family members. It only
states that he died in 1965.

On the Cleveland, Ohio 1910 census, Joe Shatsky is listed as living with his
cousin, Solomon Wolsky. Anna Fox is listed as the wife of Solomon. Their
oldest children were born in Brest Litovsk. On Naturalization papers, Joe
and his siblings list their birthplace as Kehin, Russia/Poland. Several
people have tried to locate that town, with no luck, so far.

On her death certificate, Anna Wolsky's parents are listed as Hyman
GREENSTEIN and Sarah Fox. Anna died in Cleveland in 1912.

On the Cleveland, Ohio 1930 census, Sidney is listed with his wife Sarah,
and children; Max, Frances, Abe, Milton, Isadore and Martha.

The youngest child of Anna Shatsky and the oldest child of Anna Wolsky have
about the same birth dates. Without birth documents, I have to guess that
maybe they were one year apart. That still remains a mystery to be solved.

Either there are two women with the same name or Anna had three children
with Harry Shatsky and then married Solomon Wolsky. If Anna is the common
link, wouldn't Joe have been listed as a step-son, not a cousin?

For my family history story, I would like to find out what happened to Harry
Shatsky, and determine whether or not Anna is the common link to both
families.

I am hoping that this mystery might be solved if and when I can find the
familes of Joe and Sidney somewhere in the Los Angeles area, or anywhere
else in the world.

If any of these names ring a bell, please contact me privately.

Thanks in advance.

Eileen Price
Denver, CO
eileen.price@worldnet.att.net
MODERATOR NOTE: One of the most heavily used parts of JewishGen is the Family
Finder (www.jewishgen.org/jgff). Please enter your own names/towns and also
search for others who are searching the same names. You might be able to make a
connection!


DP-Camp Ziegenhain #general

meretz
 

The following message appeared on the AHB website:

The Memorial and Museum Trutzhain is looking for people, who lived after
WWII in the DP-Camp Ziegenhain or know somebody who did. Also people who
worked at this subject are requested to contact the following address:
Gedenkstaette und Museum Trutzhain
c/o Mrs. Waltraut Burger
Seilerweg 1 34613 Schwalmstadt-Trutzhain Germany
e-mail: info@gedenkstaette-trutzhain.de Te.: +49 06691 - 71 06 63

Uriel Meretz, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DP-Camp Ziegenhain #general

meretz
 

The following message appeared on the AHB website:

The Memorial and Museum Trutzhain is looking for people, who lived after
WWII in the DP-Camp Ziegenhain or know somebody who did. Also people who
worked at this subject are requested to contact the following address:
Gedenkstaette und Museum Trutzhain
c/o Mrs. Waltraut Burger
Seilerweg 1 34613 Schwalmstadt-Trutzhain Germany
e-mail: info@gedenkstaette-trutzhain.de Te.: +49 06691 - 71 06 63

Uriel Meretz, Israel


Russian Army Conscript #belarus

Joseph Hirschfield
 

I would like to know whether someone as young as 14 could have been
conscripted into the Russian army in Russian Poland in 1889.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINIEWITSKI, TOBIASZ- Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, BUCHSBAUM, LINDBAUM- Galicia


Belarus SIG #Belarus Russian Army Conscript #belarus

Joseph Hirschfield
 

I would like to know whether someone as young as 14 could have been
conscripted into the Russian army in Russian Poland in 1889.

Joseph Hirschfield
Portage, MI USA
MINIEWITSKI, TOBIASZ- Belarus
HIRSCHFELD, BUCHSBAUM, LINDBAUM- Galicia


1939 Census #germany

Lande
 

A brief note of clarification. The 1939 German minority census can be
searched by any field, though as a practical matter I assume most people
would search by family or maiden name. A search of all persons resident in
a particular town is also possible but more time consuming. I suppose it
would even be possible to search by street address, but one would have to be
certain how that address was formatted.

I have received several requests for searches and am happy to oblige.
However, I am leaving shortly for 10 days at New Jersey beaches where I
intend to count the grains of sand and see how they are related. After that
I will be back and will answer inquiries.

Peter Lande Washington, D.C. <pdlande@starpower.net>


German SIG #Germany 1939 Census #germany

Lande
 

A brief note of clarification. The 1939 German minority census can be
searched by any field, though as a practical matter I assume most people
would search by family or maiden name. A search of all persons resident in
a particular town is also possible but more time consuming. I suppose it
would even be possible to search by street address, but one would have to be
certain how that address was formatted.

I have received several requests for searches and am happy to oblige.
However, I am leaving shortly for 10 days at New Jersey beaches where I
intend to count the grains of sand and see how they are related. After that
I will be back and will answer inquiries.

Peter Lande Washington, D.C. <pdlande@starpower.net>


Re: PROPPER and TAUSSIG families from Laun/Louny, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Ron Hermann wrote:

<"Celia writes "Georgia [Haken] will be excited to hear that in the whole
of Bohemia in 1793, apart >from Prague, there is only one PROPPER listed. "

Well, my family has PROPPERs and they are >from Jungfer-Teinitz (Panensky
Tynec) in Bohemia. I already spoke with Georgia, a year ago, about that but
we could not find a connection between my family and her family.

Here are the PROPPERs in my family:
- Wilhelm PROPPER >from Jungfer-Teinitz (Panensky Tynec) marries Wilhelmine
Kohn. No dates.>

I did clearly say that there is only one PROPPER - a widower called
*Penignaim* listed in the published volumes of the 1793 census of Bohemia -
that is the crux. He is living in the Saatzer Kreis. There may be other
PROPPER families in PRAGUE - the census is not yet out for Prague.

Is *Penignaim* a mistranscription of another name or is it a first name,
from another region, I have never come across? Penignaim was a teacher
and slaughterer. Many of the teachers in the 1793 Bohemian census came
from Moravia or Poland. He may have had many sons who then reappeared in
later years. We will have to wait till the Prague census is published to
see if they are living there.

The later PROPPER families may have come >from Moravia, Hungary or more
likely >from Poland, Galicia or Bukowina see: [search for PROPPER - also
on jri-pl].

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Brzozow/brz001.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Bukowinabook/buk1_067.html

It is rather interesting that Ron's PROPPER family comes >from
Jungfernteinitz {Panensky Tynec} in the Rakonitzer Kreis - 10 km SE of
Laun/Louny, the home of Georgia's PROPPER family, in the Saatzer Kreis.
Is this proximity a coincidence?

Another interesting point of similarity between Laun and Jungfernteinitz
is that in 1793 there were only two Jewish families in the latter town/village
- both places were effectively out-of-bounds to Jews.

These two families were those of Joseph and Jakob KAZ [sic]. They had the
distilling and tobacco concessions. Both were married and had four daughters
between them and Jakob had two servants.

So again the Jews came to live in Jungfernteinitz, like to Laun well after
1793.

Conclusion: Both the Laun and the Jungfernteinitz PROPPERs were immigrants
from ?
Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re:PROPPER and TAUSSIG families from Laun/Louny, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Ron Hermann wrote:

<"Celia writes "Georgia [Haken] will be excited to hear that in the whole
of Bohemia in 1793, apart >from Prague, there is only one PROPPER listed. "

Well, my family has PROPPERs and they are >from Jungfer-Teinitz (Panensky
Tynec) in Bohemia. I already spoke with Georgia, a year ago, about that but
we could not find a connection between my family and her family.

Here are the PROPPERs in my family:
- Wilhelm PROPPER >from Jungfer-Teinitz (Panensky Tynec) marries Wilhelmine
Kohn. No dates.>

I did clearly say that there is only one PROPPER - a widower called
*Penignaim* listed in the published volumes of the 1793 census of Bohemia -
that is the crux. He is living in the Saatzer Kreis. There may be other
PROPPER families in PRAGUE - the census is not yet out for Prague.

Is *Penignaim* a mistranscription of another name or is it a first name,
from another region, I have never come across? Penignaim was a teacher
and slaughterer. Many of the teachers in the 1793 Bohemian census came
from Moravia or Poland. He may have had many sons who then reappeared in
later years. We will have to wait till the Prague census is published to
see if they are living there.

The later PROPPER families may have come >from Moravia, Hungary or more
likely >from Poland, Galicia or Bukowina see: [search for PROPPER - also
on jri-pl].

http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Brzozow/brz001.html
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Bukowinabook/buk1_067.html

It is rather interesting that Ron's PROPPER family comes >from
Jungfernteinitz {Panensky Tynec} in the Rakonitzer Kreis - 10 km SE of
Laun/Louny, the home of Georgia's PROPPER family, in the Saatzer Kreis.
Is this proximity a coincidence?

Another interesting point of similarity between Laun and Jungfernteinitz
is that in 1793 there were only two Jewish families in the latter town/village
- both places were effectively out-of-bounds to Jews.

These two families were those of Joseph and Jakob KAZ [sic]. They had the
distilling and tobacco concessions. Both were married and had four daughters
between them and Jakob had two servants.

So again the Jews came to live in Jungfernteinitz, like to Laun well after
1793.

Conclusion: Both the Laun and the Jungfernteinitz PROPPERs were immigrants
from ?
Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Introductions - OFNER, ZENKER, FISCHL and HAZELKORN - FUCHS #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

The reintroductions are throwing up huge opportunities for making
connections

Two messages in the last few days struck particular chords with me

".... My name is Sue ISMAN and I live in Potomac, Maryland, USA. ..... My
great-great grandfather was Gottlieb ZENKER. He was born in Prague in 1860.
He had 3 brothers.... Marcus ZENKER, born 1863, Fred ZENKER born 1868, and
Edward ZENKER, born 1872. I believe they were also all born in Prague."

My mother, Fritzi HOELZEL nee SALUS, was born in November 1907 in the
Sudetenland and studied medicine at the Charles University in Prague. Her
closest friend was Erika ZENKER, child of a Prague family. Erika who was
born in February 1908 was transported to Theresienstadt 20 November 1942 and
from there to Auschwitz. She did not survive.
Also, Marcia Hoffman's email:

" I've been doing genealogy for three years and am totally stuck on my
father's maternal side. Morris FRIEDMAN came to New York in 1880 from
Austria. His wife, Bertha GREEN FRIEDMAN apparently followed in 1882....
Children were Sadie, Mollie, .......Adolph and Otto ......Otto's
mother-in-law was Sara (Sadie) FUCHS HAZELCORN >from Galicia.."

Most of my research has concentrated on my mother's SALUS family which lived
in Bohemia for 4 centuries. However my father Aron HOELZEL's family came
from Galicia. His maternal grandmother was Taube FIDERER nee HAZELKORN from
the Tarnepol area! Taube had a HAZELKORN brother whose 3 sons Max, Benny and
Harry all emigrated to America (I think in the 1920s or 30s) where they
changed their name to CORN. An old aunt once told me that Max CORN wrote
back to the family in Galicia about his search for a bride and eventually
his cousin Minnie FIDERER (Taube's daughter) went out to New York where they
married.

Ruth Coman
London, England
Researching: SALUS, Bohemia; SCHUESSLER, Bohemia,Wien, Trieste;
LOEWY,Kolodeje nad Luznici,Kolin; MELZER,Zatec; MOC,MOTZ,Bohemia


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Introductions - OFNER, ZENKER, FISCHL and HAZELKORN - FUCHS #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

The reintroductions are throwing up huge opportunities for making
connections

Two messages in the last few days struck particular chords with me

".... My name is Sue ISMAN and I live in Potomac, Maryland, USA. ..... My
great-great grandfather was Gottlieb ZENKER. He was born in Prague in 1860.
He had 3 brothers.... Marcus ZENKER, born 1863, Fred ZENKER born 1868, and
Edward ZENKER, born 1872. I believe they were also all born in Prague."

My mother, Fritzi HOELZEL nee SALUS, was born in November 1907 in the
Sudetenland and studied medicine at the Charles University in Prague. Her
closest friend was Erika ZENKER, child of a Prague family. Erika who was
born in February 1908 was transported to Theresienstadt 20 November 1942 and
from there to Auschwitz. She did not survive.
Also, Marcia Hoffman's email:

" I've been doing genealogy for three years and am totally stuck on my
father's maternal side. Morris FRIEDMAN came to New York in 1880 from
Austria. His wife, Bertha GREEN FRIEDMAN apparently followed in 1882....
Children were Sadie, Mollie, .......Adolph and Otto ......Otto's
mother-in-law was Sara (Sadie) FUCHS HAZELCORN >from Galicia.."

Most of my research has concentrated on my mother's SALUS family which lived
in Bohemia for 4 centuries. However my father Aron HOELZEL's family came
from Galicia. His maternal grandmother was Taube FIDERER nee HAZELKORN from
the Tarnepol area! Taube had a HAZELKORN brother whose 3 sons Max, Benny and
Harry all emigrated to America (I think in the 1920s or 30s) where they
changed their name to CORN. An old aunt once told me that Max CORN wrote
back to the family in Galicia about his search for a bride and eventually
his cousin Minnie FIDERER (Taube's daughter) went out to New York where they
married.

Ruth Coman
London, England
Researching: SALUS, Bohemia; SCHUESSLER, Bohemia,Wien, Trieste;
LOEWY,Kolodeje nad Luznici,Kolin; MELZER,Zatec; MOC,MOTZ,Bohemia


Research Update: NOWAK, EISINGER, FINKELSTEIN, KRAUTERBLUTH #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Dear SIGers -

At Sharla Levine's suggestion, I've been reviewing and refining my research
interests, as summarised below.

Over the past seven years or so, I've become an "lazy internet genealogist".
That is, I haven't gone out and physically dug through actual archives and
files - all my research has been via email and internet. Without JewishGen
and AustriaCzech (and also JRI-PL and Gesher Galicia), I would not know a
fraction of what I now know, which is a large sum of information about my
ancestry. Fortunately, I knew a good deal to begin with, >from my late
Parent's memoirs, and I've been able to build on that and expand it. I'm
also writing a Family History, which is very much a work-in-progress, based
on this material. I believe that history isn't just about places and dates;
it's about what people did and where and how they did it.

My current research interests are as follows:

NOWAK - Thanks to the SIG, I discovered the existence of the graves of my
great-great grandfather David NOWAK and his wife Babette in Uhersky Brod
(CZ). David died in 1879. I will visit his grave in May 2006. But I know
nothing about him and would love to know more. Even a photograph would be
wonderful.

NOWAK - My great-grandfather Moritz NOWAK set up and owned a liquor and
pharmaceutical business in Vienna - he was described as a "spiritushandler".
That is, when the local newspaper wasn't calling him "der Brantweinjude
Nowak". The business was probably wound up after he died in 1916. I know
nothing about the business; not even what it was called or where it
operated, although he started in the basement of the apartment house he
built in Neulerchenfelderstrasse, Ottakring. The building was bombed in WW2
and no longer exists. The business was very successful, so surely some
records must exist. But what and where?

EISINGER - I have recently acquired a lot of information about this family,
which was a very extensive one. Most of them seem to have originated in
Kostel/Podivin in Moravia and they spread all over the world. Professional
research has been recently done (not by me) and a comprehensive family tree
compiled. I have to thank several people for information and advice,
including Susan Boyer, Frank Eisinger, Claire Bruell (we're very distantly
related but don't know how), Celia Male and others on the SIG, and other
newly discovered cousins who are not on the SIG.

FINKELSTEIN - Strictly speaking, they aren't >from the Austria-Czech SIG
area, but >from Galicia. But I'll briefly mention them for the record. Adolf
and Helene Finkelstein. Helene was an Eisinger, Adolf was born in
Podwolocyska (now in Ukraine). His father Max came to Pod. but I know
nothing about him and would love to know more.

KRAUTERBLUTH - again, not strictly AustriaCzech business. Adolf's sister
Henriette married a Dr. Krauterbluth (allegedly he was a teacher/professor)
and they lived *somewhere in Poland* at least until WW2 when contact was
lost. The surname appears on an Aufbau Shanghai List, but may not be him.

All these names and more are registered with the JGFF, FTJP, Holocaust
Registry etc.

Shalom

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Research Update: NOWAK, EISINGER, FINKELSTEIN, KRAUTERBLUTH #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Dear SIGers -

At Sharla Levine's suggestion, I've been reviewing and refining my research
interests, as summarised below.

Over the past seven years or so, I've become an "lazy internet genealogist".
That is, I haven't gone out and physically dug through actual archives and
files - all my research has been via email and internet. Without JewishGen
and AustriaCzech (and also JRI-PL and Gesher Galicia), I would not know a
fraction of what I now know, which is a large sum of information about my
ancestry. Fortunately, I knew a good deal to begin with, >from my late
Parent's memoirs, and I've been able to build on that and expand it. I'm
also writing a Family History, which is very much a work-in-progress, based
on this material. I believe that history isn't just about places and dates;
it's about what people did and where and how they did it.

My current research interests are as follows:

NOWAK - Thanks to the SIG, I discovered the existence of the graves of my
great-great grandfather David NOWAK and his wife Babette in Uhersky Brod
(CZ). David died in 1879. I will visit his grave in May 2006. But I know
nothing about him and would love to know more. Even a photograph would be
wonderful.

NOWAK - My great-grandfather Moritz NOWAK set up and owned a liquor and
pharmaceutical business in Vienna - he was described as a "spiritushandler".
That is, when the local newspaper wasn't calling him "der Brantweinjude
Nowak". The business was probably wound up after he died in 1916. I know
nothing about the business; not even what it was called or where it
operated, although he started in the basement of the apartment house he
built in Neulerchenfelderstrasse, Ottakring. The building was bombed in WW2
and no longer exists. The business was very successful, so surely some
records must exist. But what and where?

EISINGER - I have recently acquired a lot of information about this family,
which was a very extensive one. Most of them seem to have originated in
Kostel/Podivin in Moravia and they spread all over the world. Professional
research has been recently done (not by me) and a comprehensive family tree
compiled. I have to thank several people for information and advice,
including Susan Boyer, Frank Eisinger, Claire Bruell (we're very distantly
related but don't know how), Celia Male and others on the SIG, and other
newly discovered cousins who are not on the SIG.

FINKELSTEIN - Strictly speaking, they aren't >from the Austria-Czech SIG
area, but >from Galicia. But I'll briefly mention them for the record. Adolf
and Helene Finkelstein. Helene was an Eisinger, Adolf was born in
Podwolocyska (now in Ukraine). His father Max came to Pod. but I know
nothing about him and would love to know more.

KRAUTERBLUTH - again, not strictly AustriaCzech business. Adolf's sister
Henriette married a Dr. Krauterbluth (allegedly he was a teacher/professor)
and they lived *somewhere in Poland* at least until WW2 when contact was
lost. The surname appears on an Aufbau Shanghai List, but may not be him.

All these names and more are registered with the JGFF, FTJP, Holocaust
Registry etc.

Shalom

Robert W Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au


Oskar, Hans and Henry SALOMON (business owners) of Celle, Germany #general

fanoemmitt@...
 

Hello and thank you all for help in the past. So far in search for the
ancestry of my mother (Maria Salomon) and her brother (Heinz Salomon) and
their mother (Ruth Salomon), I have still found nothing but dead ends. I am
still hunting and reaching and hoping.

As mention in a previous post, My Uncle (Heinz Salomon) was born in Breslau,
Germany (Wroclaw, Poland) in 1934. Birth certificate states Breslau IV, and
a street address on Kronprinzenstrasse. Also that Ruth's Residence was in
Wester-Celle in 1940 (year of original certificate).

It is believed that my mother (Maria Salomon) was born in Oranienburg,
Germany in 1935. The person claiming to be their father was born in
Wester-Celle in 1909. We do not know the birth date nor birth place of their
mother (Ruth Salomon).

On the website http://www.celle-im-nationalsozialismus.de/Index.html ,I
found a reference to Oskar, Hans and Henry Salomon (Business owners in Celle
in 1930's) but could not locate any additional information on them.

Does anyone know anything about them or know where I can find more
information on them or pictures of them?

Tim Patton
Eau Claire, WI, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Oskar, Hans and Henry SALOMON (business owners) of Celle, Germany #general

fanoemmitt@...
 

Hello and thank you all for help in the past. So far in search for the
ancestry of my mother (Maria Salomon) and her brother (Heinz Salomon) and
their mother (Ruth Salomon), I have still found nothing but dead ends. I am
still hunting and reaching and hoping.

As mention in a previous post, My Uncle (Heinz Salomon) was born in Breslau,
Germany (Wroclaw, Poland) in 1934. Birth certificate states Breslau IV, and
a street address on Kronprinzenstrasse. Also that Ruth's Residence was in
Wester-Celle in 1940 (year of original certificate).

It is believed that my mother (Maria Salomon) was born in Oranienburg,
Germany in 1935. The person claiming to be their father was born in
Wester-Celle in 1909. We do not know the birth date nor birth place of their
mother (Ruth Salomon).

On the website http://www.celle-im-nationalsozialismus.de/Index.html ,I
found a reference to Oskar, Hans and Henry Salomon (Business owners in Celle
in 1930's) but could not locate any additional information on them.

Does anyone know anything about them or know where I can find more
information on them or pictures of them?

Tim Patton
Eau Claire, WI, USA