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Rashi/Treves/Bute connection? #general

bxzi@...
 

In Hyamson's "The Sephardim of England," he states that the Marquess of
Bute is a descendant of Pellegrin Treves and is either a direct or
collateral descendant of Rashi.

I have been trying to find information to confirm this but I can't find
anything.

Can anyone help?

Thank you.

Brooke Morris
bxzi@yahoo.com


Lithuanian databases #general

Harvey <harvey@...>
 

Can anyone explain to me where these 2 databases differ, and why there's
not just one?

LitvakSIG "All Lithuania" Database
More than 400,000 records >from many different sources, including
complete Revision Lists as well as vital records, tax, voters, and
cemetery lists.

The JewishGen Lithuania Database
Over 500,000 records for Lithuania, >from a variety of sources,
including: vital records, Revision Lists, business directories, voter
lists, Yizkor books and other Holocaust sources.

thanks

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rashi/Treves/Bute connection? #general

bxzi@...
 

In Hyamson's "The Sephardim of England," he states that the Marquess of
Bute is a descendant of Pellegrin Treves and is either a direct or
collateral descendant of Rashi.

I have been trying to find information to confirm this but I can't find
anything.

Can anyone help?

Thank you.

Brooke Morris
bxzi@yahoo.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuanian databases #general

Harvey <harvey@...>
 

Can anyone explain to me where these 2 databases differ, and why there's
not just one?

LitvakSIG "All Lithuania" Database
More than 400,000 records >from many different sources, including
complete Revision Lists as well as vital records, tax, voters, and
cemetery lists.

The JewishGen Lithuania Database
Over 500,000 records for Lithuania, >from a variety of sources,
including: vital records, Revision Lists, business directories, voter
lists, Yizkor books and other Holocaust sources.

thanks

Harvey L Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland


Viewmate help kindly requested (Russian) #poland

TAFKASnyc@...
 

Hi folks,
Not sure where these pics are >from but chances are they could be on my
Mom's side which means Poland, they are all notations on the backs of
photos of people who must somehow be related....

Would love it if some benevolent soul would clue me in as to what they say.

The Viewmate file #s are

VM6655
VM6656
VM6657
VM6658
and
VM6665

Thanks as always for all the great work everyone does around here!

Please respond to me privately.

Best,

Robert Becker, New York

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Viewmate may be found at www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/


JRI Poland #Poland Viewmate help kindly requested (Russian) #poland

TAFKASnyc@...
 

Hi folks,
Not sure where these pics are >from but chances are they could be on my
Mom's side which means Poland, they are all notations on the backs of
photos of people who must somehow be related....

Would love it if some benevolent soul would clue me in as to what they say.

The Viewmate file #s are

VM6655
VM6656
VM6657
VM6658
and
VM6665

Thanks as always for all the great work everyone does around here!

Please respond to me privately.

Best,

Robert Becker, New York

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Viewmate may be found at www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/


Translation of Birth Record for Pejsach LEW of Wysokie Mazowieckie-VM6648 #general

Marv Brooks <lakebenj@...>
 

I am looking for help in translation >from Russian of the VM 6648 record
for the birth (1872) of Pejsach LEW (later LEVIN) of Wysokie
Mazowieckie.

According to my research he was the child of Chunka and Dwreja LEW.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6648

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Please send responses directly to me.

Thank you,

Marvin Brooks
Philadelphia, PA

Searching: LIPSHITZ (Wysokie Mazowieckie),
WEIN & KAMENETSKY (Lida),
BRUCK & GUREVITZ (Mogilev)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation of Birth Record for Pejsach LEW of Wysokie Mazowieckie-VM6648 #general

Marv Brooks <lakebenj@...>
 

I am looking for help in translation >from Russian of the VM 6648 record
for the birth (1872) of Pejsach LEW (later LEVIN) of Wysokie
Mazowieckie.

According to my research he was the child of Chunka and Dwreja LEW.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6648

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Please send responses directly to me.

Thank you,

Marvin Brooks
Philadelphia, PA

Searching: LIPSHITZ (Wysokie Mazowieckie),
WEIN & KAMENETSKY (Lida),
BRUCK & GUREVITZ (Mogilev)


Zabludow Project at Yiddish Book Center #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

I just want to let people know that the Zabludow Wooden Synagogue Model
is currently on exhibit at the Yiddish Book Center in Amherst
Massachusetts. Also on exhibit is a recently produced full size replica
of one of the remarkable wall paintings >from the Gwozdziec Synagogue.

Below is a link to the Book Center's page that explaints the Zabludow
Project exhibit. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask me.

Tilford Bartman

http://www.yiddishbookcenter.org/+10273


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Zabludow Project at Yiddish Book Center #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

I just want to let people know that the Zabludow Wooden Synagogue Model
is currently on exhibit at the Yiddish Book Center in Amherst
Massachusetts. Also on exhibit is a recently produced full size replica
of one of the remarkable wall paintings >from the Gwozdziec Synagogue.

Below is a link to the Book Center's page that explaints the Zabludow
Project exhibit. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask me.

Tilford Bartman

http://www.yiddishbookcenter.org/+10273


Silverfriend family information #usa

pfishyuma@...
 

Names Silverfriend, Silberfriend, Silberfreund, Silverfeld, Silverfield.

1871 census of St. Patrick's Ward Hamilton Moses Silverfriend 1829 Poland
tobaconist, 1863 M. Elizabeth Babetta Vogel Silverfriend 1842 Germany,
Henry 1864 Hamilton, William 1855 Hamilton, Harriet/Henrietta 1866 Hamilton,
Evoline/Edith 1868 Hamilton, Rose 1870 Hamilton, Rosa 1859 Poland. Immig. Abt.
1860 Rochester, NY tailor Greentree and Wile. Elizabeth Mrs. Hammel' sister.
Oct of 1872 Menominee, MI, 1875 Jeweler Sheboygan, WI, 1877 died Appleton, WI,
Babetta ran confectioner shop in Appleton until 1900. My ggm Rosa Silverfriend
possibly child prev. marriage Moses. Rosa listed Moses & Betsy parents on
marriage certif. Moses' death, Rosa's marriage show name Silverfield. Information:

Patrick J. Fish, Yuma, AZ USA pfishyuma@adelphia.net


Early American SIG #USA Silverfriend family information #usa

pfishyuma@...
 

Names Silverfriend, Silberfriend, Silberfreund, Silverfeld, Silverfield.

1871 census of St. Patrick's Ward Hamilton Moses Silverfriend 1829 Poland
tobaconist, 1863 M. Elizabeth Babetta Vogel Silverfriend 1842 Germany,
Henry 1864 Hamilton, William 1855 Hamilton, Harriet/Henrietta 1866 Hamilton,
Evoline/Edith 1868 Hamilton, Rose 1870 Hamilton, Rosa 1859 Poland. Immig. Abt.
1860 Rochester, NY tailor Greentree and Wile. Elizabeth Mrs. Hammel' sister.
Oct of 1872 Menominee, MI, 1875 Jeweler Sheboygan, WI, 1877 died Appleton, WI,
Babetta ran confectioner shop in Appleton until 1900. My ggm Rosa Silverfriend
possibly child prev. marriage Moses. Rosa listed Moses & Betsy parents on
marriage certif. Moses' death, Rosa's marriage show name Silverfield. Information:

Patrick J. Fish, Yuma, AZ USA pfishyuma@adelphia.net


Name Suffix/-SKONU for -SKY at Ekaterinoslav #ukraine

Steve Franklin <cryptozoomorphic@...>
 

My great grandfather, Eudel SCHEFCZINSKY of Gorodische, went by many variations
of his name over the years, but the one that fascinates me the most is >from an
entry in the Blitzstein Bank Passage Order Book records, where his son-in-law,
my grandfather Samuel (FRENKEL) FRANKLIN, has him as Judku SCHEFCZINSKONU. I am
curious if anyone recognizes the orthography of this name, that is, where would
this particular rendering have come from? What country--what language--would
the -u/-onu endings indicate? I realise Judku is a variation on Judke, which
Eudel also used.

Steve Franklin
http://www.lordbalto.com/
If my email ever bounces,
you can always contact me
at my website.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Name Suffix/-SKONU for -SKY at Ekaterinoslav #ukraine

Steve Franklin <cryptozoomorphic@...>
 

My great grandfather, Eudel SCHEFCZINSKY of Gorodische, went by many variations
of his name over the years, but the one that fascinates me the most is >from an
entry in the Blitzstein Bank Passage Order Book records, where his son-in-law,
my grandfather Samuel (FRENKEL) FRANKLIN, has him as Judku SCHEFCZINSKONU. I am
curious if anyone recognizes the orthography of this name, that is, where would
this particular rendering have come from? What country--what language--would
the -u/-onu endings indicate? I realise Judku is a variation on Judke, which
Eudel also used.

Steve Franklin
http://www.lordbalto.com/
If my email ever bounces,
you can always contact me
at my website.


Flour mills #ukraine

Noyma Appelbaum <noyma@...>
 

I recently posted a series of questions about the economic status of flour
mill owners in preWW I Ukraine. I asked for a private response to my
questions and quite a few came in. One person suggested that I should share
the information I received since others may be interested in the same
subject. Here is a summary of the main points in these responses.

1. Most respondents commented on the horrific pogroms against Jews in post
revolutionary Ukraine. It was noted that my mother and her sister were lucky
to have left Zvenigrodka when they did (1913-14) and thereby avoided those
pogroms. Apparently my mother's family escaped the worst of the pogroms
since my grandfather lived through them and the civil war and died in 1927.
His two daughters, my mother's sisters, also lived through them. One moved
to Kharkov in 1938-39; she and her children survived WW II. The other sister
and her children remained in Zvenigrodka and were murdered in the Holocaust.

2. In regard to flour mills, it appears that the economic situation of flour
mill owners varied widely. Some were fairly wealthy; others struggled to
make a living. Someone suggested that my grandfather may not have done too
well because of his location, Zvenigrodka. The competition may have been
great there. Someone else said he may have made a living but did not make
enough to support his daughters into adulthood.

3. There was comment that many mills at that time were operated by Jews,
that it was a "Jewish business." At least two people commented that milling
was a good business, but that their families held on to their mills too
long. One such family was caught up in the pogroms and one family, probably
in Lithuania, held on so long that they were caught up in the Holocaust.

4. I had asked about how mills were powered and I was told either by water
or by horses.

5. One respondent said that just because a miller made a living didn't mean
he was a macher. Knowing my family, that was probably on target in my case.

Thanks to all who responded.

Noyma Appelbaum
Philadelphia, PA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Flour mills #ukraine

Noyma Appelbaum <noyma@...>
 

I recently posted a series of questions about the economic status of flour
mill owners in preWW I Ukraine. I asked for a private response to my
questions and quite a few came in. One person suggested that I should share
the information I received since others may be interested in the same
subject. Here is a summary of the main points in these responses.

1. Most respondents commented on the horrific pogroms against Jews in post
revolutionary Ukraine. It was noted that my mother and her sister were lucky
to have left Zvenigrodka when they did (1913-14) and thereby avoided those
pogroms. Apparently my mother's family escaped the worst of the pogroms
since my grandfather lived through them and the civil war and died in 1927.
His two daughters, my mother's sisters, also lived through them. One moved
to Kharkov in 1938-39; she and her children survived WW II. The other sister
and her children remained in Zvenigrodka and were murdered in the Holocaust.

2. In regard to flour mills, it appears that the economic situation of flour
mill owners varied widely. Some were fairly wealthy; others struggled to
make a living. Someone suggested that my grandfather may not have done too
well because of his location, Zvenigrodka. The competition may have been
great there. Someone else said he may have made a living but did not make
enough to support his daughters into adulthood.

3. There was comment that many mills at that time were operated by Jews,
that it was a "Jewish business." At least two people commented that milling
was a good business, but that their families held on to their mills too
long. One such family was caught up in the pogroms and one family, probably
in Lithuania, held on so long that they were caught up in the Holocaust.

4. I had asked about how mills were powered and I was told either by water
or by horses.

5. One respondent said that just because a miller made a living didn't mean
he was a macher. Knowing my family, that was probably on target in my case.

Thanks to all who responded.

Noyma Appelbaum
Philadelphia, PA


RONER Family in Galicia-Possible Vizhnitsa Origin??? #ukraine

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
After reuniting my 2 first cousins Rudi Rosner and
Reuven Orschutzer I found out that our grandfather
Jacob Chiel ROSNER (1866-1942)after whom I am named
was born in Dabrowa Tarnowska and moved to Krakow only
at the begining of the 20th century.
I started looking via JRI-PL,Yad Vashem and
Shoreshim.org for Rosner at Tarnow area and discovered
in Raanana,Israel a Rosner family which arrived here
from Tarnow and Zabno(close to Dabrowa).
They told me that they lived in Tarnow area but
originate in Vizhnitsa(Vizhnitz),Bukovina,once
Austria,between 1918-1939 Romania and after 1945 the
Ukraine.
Would appreciate any direction call about ROSNERS
from Vizhnitsa who moved westward to Galicia in mid
19th century.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RONER Family in Galicia-Possible Vizhnitsa Origin??? #ukraine

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
After reuniting my 2 first cousins Rudi Rosner and
Reuven Orschutzer I found out that our grandfather
Jacob Chiel ROSNER (1866-1942)after whom I am named
was born in Dabrowa Tarnowska and moved to Krakow only
at the begining of the 20th century.
I started looking via JRI-PL,Yad Vashem and
Shoreshim.org for Rosner at Tarnow area and discovered
in Raanana,Israel a Rosner family which arrived here
from Tarnow and Zabno(close to Dabrowa).
They told me that they lived in Tarnow area but
originate in Vizhnitsa(Vizhnitz),Bukovina,once
Austria,between 1918-1939 Romania and after 1945 the
Ukraine.
Would appreciate any direction call about ROSNERS
from Vizhnitsa who moved westward to Galicia in mid
19th century.

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Researching Elizabeth Babetta VOGEL SILVERFRIEND #germany

pfishyuma@...
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 30 years.
I consider myself to be novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in rural Yuma, Arrizona USA. My native language is English.
I consider myself intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using
the Internet is extensive. I have identified the names and birth year and
aprox. death year of Elizabeth Babetta Vogel SILVERFRIEND 1842-1918 - born in
Germany, my great great grandparent and the birth year and death date of
Moses SILVERFRIEND, my great great grandfather 1829-1877 - born in Poland/Austria.

My primary research goals now are to find out: exact birth and emigration
information on Babetta >from Germany. I believe she emigrated to Canada via USA
in 1861 or 1862 to marry Moses SILVERFRIEND. Babetta's sister (Mrs. David HAMMEL)
of Hamilton, Ontario, Canada was the match maker.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:

VOGEL - Germany to Canada via USA 1860-61, married Moses SILVERFRIEND in 1863
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Children Henry 1864 Hamilton, William 1855
Hamilton, Harriet/Henrietta 1866 Hamilton, Evoline/Edith 1868 Hamilton,
Rose 1870 Hamilton, Rosa 1859 Poland. Moses Immig. Abt. 1860 Rochester,
NY tailor Greentree and Wile. Oct of 1872 Menominee, MI, 1875 Jeweler Sheboygan,
WI, 1877 died Appleton, WI, Babetta ran confectioner shop in Appleton until
1900. My ggm Rosa SILVERFRIEND possibly child prev. marriage Moses. Rosa listed
Moses & Betsy parents

Patrick Joseph Fish, Yuma, Arizona, USA e-mail: pfishyuma@adelphia.net


German SIG #Germany Researching Elizabeth Babetta VOGEL SILVERFRIEND #germany

pfishyuma@...
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for 30 years.
I consider myself to be novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in rural Yuma, Arrizona USA. My native language is English.
I consider myself intermediate in using a computer. My experience in using
the Internet is extensive. I have identified the names and birth year and
aprox. death year of Elizabeth Babetta Vogel SILVERFRIEND 1842-1918 - born in
Germany, my great great grandparent and the birth year and death date of
Moses SILVERFRIEND, my great great grandfather 1829-1877 - born in Poland/Austria.

My primary research goals now are to find out: exact birth and emigration
information on Babetta >from Germany. I believe she emigrated to Canada via USA
in 1861 or 1862 to marry Moses SILVERFRIEND. Babetta's sister (Mrs. David HAMMEL)
of Hamilton, Ontario, Canada was the match maker.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:

VOGEL - Germany to Canada via USA 1860-61, married Moses SILVERFRIEND in 1863
in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. Children Henry 1864 Hamilton, William 1855
Hamilton, Harriet/Henrietta 1866 Hamilton, Evoline/Edith 1868 Hamilton,
Rose 1870 Hamilton, Rosa 1859 Poland. Moses Immig. Abt. 1860 Rochester,
NY tailor Greentree and Wile. Oct of 1872 Menominee, MI, 1875 Jeweler Sheboygan,
WI, 1877 died Appleton, WI, Babetta ran confectioner shop in Appleton until
1900. My ggm Rosa SILVERFRIEND possibly child prev. marriage Moses. Rosa listed
Moses & Betsy parents

Patrick Joseph Fish, Yuma, Arizona, USA e-mail: pfishyuma@adelphia.net