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ROSNER Family From Dabrowa Tarnowska #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Following my reunion with my 2 first cousins Rudy
Rosner(b.1920 Berlin) and Reuven Orschutzer(b. 1925
Krakow) I continued my research and found out that our
grandfather Jacob Chiel Rosner(1866-1942) was born in
Dabrowa Tarnowska(pronounced Dombrowa).His parents
were Rubin and Malka.Rubin was apparently a Chasidic
Rabbi.

I found in EIDB that a certain Judah Rosner(b.1880 in
Tarnow) came to the USA in 1920. He was accompanied by
his wife Gele and 4 children. The 2 youngest were
Malka (b.1911) and Rubin(b.1913). He declared that he
will stay with his father H.Rosner in NY who also paid
for the tickets.

There is indeed a Hirsch Rosner (b.1857 or 1862 in
Tarnow) who came to the USA in 1905 accompanied by his
daughter Esther who was 18 in 1905.

I suspect that Judah named his younger kids Malka and
Rubin after his grandparents who may be my
greatgrandparents.

Does it ring a bell????
Thanks

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

P.S. Further to this posting, today I found out
that Rubin Rosner (b.1914) who came with his parents
to the USA in 1920 died in Morris Plains NJ in 2002.
He had a sister Malka (b.1911) who is called in the
1930 Census Mildred. He had an older brother
Nathan (b.1909) whose name i do not find in SSDI.
Rubin Rosner whose parents were Judah and Gele(Gussi)
is probably my 2nd cousin.

Would appreciate any lead to find his family members.
Jacob

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland ROSNER Family From Dabrowa Tarnowska #poland

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Following my reunion with my 2 first cousins Rudy
Rosner(b.1920 Berlin) and Reuven Orschutzer(b. 1925
Krakow) I continued my research and found out that our
grandfather Jacob Chiel Rosner(1866-1942) was born in
Dabrowa Tarnowska(pronounced Dombrowa).His parents
were Rubin and Malka.Rubin was apparently a Chasidic
Rabbi.

I found in EIDB that a certain Judah Rosner(b.1880 in
Tarnow) came to the USA in 1920. He was accompanied by
his wife Gele and 4 children. The 2 youngest were
Malka (b.1911) and Rubin(b.1913). He declared that he
will stay with his father H.Rosner in NY who also paid
for the tickets.

There is indeed a Hirsch Rosner (b.1857 or 1862 in
Tarnow) who came to the USA in 1905 accompanied by his
daughter Esther who was 18 in 1905.

I suspect that Judah named his younger kids Malka and
Rubin after his grandparents who may be my
greatgrandparents.

Does it ring a bell????
Thanks

Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

P.S. Further to this posting, today I found out
that Rubin Rosner (b.1914) who came with his parents
to the USA in 1920 died in Morris Plains NJ in 2002.
He had a sister Malka (b.1911) who is called in the
1930 Census Mildred. He had an older brother
Nathan (b.1909) whose name i do not find in SSDI.
Rubin Rosner whose parents were Judah and Gele(Gussi)
is probably my 2nd cousin.

Would appreciate any lead to find his family members.
Jacob

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Small town in Poland, with a high incidence of deafness? #poland

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Dear list members,

A cousin and I are researching a branch of his family, which reportedly
came >from a small town in Poland where there was a high incidence of
deafness.

If we could locate small towns in Poland where there is a notably high
incidence of deafness, we might be able to focus in and do some productive
backtracking there.

Has anyone had any experience with this?

Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca
Researching:
KASTNER & OSTFELD, Radauti, Bukovina;
NATHANSON & MENDELSSOHN, Piatra Neamt,
Negulesti, Falticeni, Romania;
DENENBERG/DYNABURSKI & GARBARSKI/GOLDBERG,
Sejny, Suwalki gubernia, Poland, New York, NY;
KUSSNER, Bendery, Bessarabia/Moldova, Philadelphia, PA;
MILLER/SZCZUCZYNSKI, Lida, Vilnius, Lithuania/Belarus,
Philadelphia, PA.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


JRI Poland #Poland Small town in Poland, with a high incidence of deafness? #poland

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Dear list members,

A cousin and I are researching a branch of his family, which reportedly
came >from a small town in Poland where there was a high incidence of
deafness.

If we could locate small towns in Poland where there is a notably high
incidence of deafness, we might be able to focus in and do some productive
backtracking there.

Has anyone had any experience with this?

Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca
Researching:
KASTNER & OSTFELD, Radauti, Bukovina;
NATHANSON & MENDELSSOHN, Piatra Neamt,
Negulesti, Falticeni, Romania;
DENENBERG/DYNABURSKI & GARBARSKI/GOLDBERG,
Sejny, Suwalki gubernia, Poland, New York, NY;
KUSSNER, Bendery, Bessarabia/Moldova, Philadelphia, PA;
MILLER/SZCZUCZYNSKI, Lida, Vilnius, Lithuania/Belarus,
Philadelphia, PA.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


AGAD Archive Project #poland

Mark Halpern
 

Dear Fellow Galitzianers:

It was in November 2000 that JRI-Poland's AGAD Archive project was
started to index the records for 87 Administrative towns >from the former
Austrian province of Galicia. Of these towns, 84 are now in Ukraine and
3 are in Poland near the Ukraine border.

Four and a half years later, 78 of these towns have been fully or
partially indexed. Quite an accomplishment -- thanks to many of you.

The 9 towns not yet indexed are:
Jaworow/Yavorov
Kosow/Kosov
Krakowiec/Krakovets
Krzywcze Gorne/Verkhneye Krivche
Olesko
Rudki
Uhnow/Ugnev
Zniesienie/Znesen'ye
Zolkiew/Nesterov

If you are interested in these towns or nearby smaller shtetlach, you
may be interested in Surname lists that have been developed for the
records registered in these 9 Administrative towns. If you do, please
contact me privately and I will search the surname lists for you.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator


Re: Poland and Danzig Business Directory 1926-7 #poland

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I also had a wonderful time searching this directory and add my thanks. I
found it curious, however, that my relatives were not listed in this
directory but WERE in the 1929 directory. Was one more popular than the
other or did people pay to be listed?

Jackye Sullins
San Diego

I join the others in thanking Logan Kleinwachs >from the depths of my
husband's heart (it is his family that comes >from Poland).
As some have mentioned doing comparisions of 1926/7 and 1929 - don't
forget
one row below is the 1923 directory.


JRI Poland #Poland AGAD Archive Project #poland

Mark Halpern
 

Dear Fellow Galitzianers:

It was in November 2000 that JRI-Poland's AGAD Archive project was
started to index the records for 87 Administrative towns >from the former
Austrian province of Galicia. Of these towns, 84 are now in Ukraine and
3 are in Poland near the Ukraine border.

Four and a half years later, 78 of these towns have been fully or
partially indexed. Quite an accomplishment -- thanks to many of you.

The 9 towns not yet indexed are:
Jaworow/Yavorov
Kosow/Kosov
Krakowiec/Krakovets
Krzywcze Gorne/Verkhneye Krivche
Olesko
Rudki
Uhnow/Ugnev
Zniesienie/Znesen'ye
Zolkiew/Nesterov

If you are interested in these towns or nearby smaller shtetlach, you
may be interested in Surname lists that have been developed for the
records registered in these 9 Administrative towns. If you do, please
contact me privately and I will search the surname lists for you.

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archive Coordinator


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Poland and Danzig Business Directory 1926-7 #poland

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I also had a wonderful time searching this directory and add my thanks. I
found it curious, however, that my relatives were not listed in this
directory but WERE in the 1929 directory. Was one more popular than the
other or did people pay to be listed?

Jackye Sullins
San Diego

I join the others in thanking Logan Kleinwachs >from the depths of my
husband's heart (it is his family that comes >from Poland).
As some have mentioned doing comparisions of 1926/7 and 1929 - don't
forget
one row below is the 1923 directory.


Gura Humorului #romania

Joyce Field
 

JOWBR, JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial Registry, has 84 photos
and 664 burials >from Gura Humorului, in its searchable database.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org


Romania SIG #Romania Gura Humorului #romania

Joyce Field
 

JOWBR, JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial Registry, has 84 photos
and 664 burials >from Gura Humorului, in its searchable database.

Joyce Field
jfield@jewishgen.org


ABRAVANEL #general

Joana Rabinovitch <j.rabinovitch@...>
 

Dear all,

A long time ago one of the researchers of this list ( surname STEIN) ifIam
not mistaken, aksed me if i wouldn't mind researching the Portuguese
National Archives on the family ABRAVANEL.

I found nothing so far, but I'll keep trying

Joana Rabinovitch
Lisbon, Portugal

PS I am sending this to the whole list( sorry!) but after all these years
and computer mishaps I lost the e-mail address of the person in question.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ABRAVANEL #general

Joana Rabinovitch <j.rabinovitch@...>
 

Dear all,

A long time ago one of the researchers of this list ( surname STEIN) ifIam
not mistaken, aksed me if i wouldn't mind researching the Portuguese
National Archives on the family ABRAVANEL.

I found nothing so far, but I'll keep trying

Joana Rabinovitch
Lisbon, Portugal

PS I am sending this to the whole list( sorry!) but after all these years
and computer mishaps I lost the e-mail address of the person in question.


Las Vegas Conference CD Set Now Available at the Mall #ukraine

Carol W. Skydell [mailto: cskydell@...
 

SUBJECT: Recorded IAJGS Conerence Sessions Ready for Shipment
Dear Genners..
We are delighted to tell you about a wonderful opportunity to own a set of
3 CDs containing 31 recorded presentations at the just concluded IAJGS
conference in Las Vegas. All this is thanks to Ron Arons and his small
army of volunteers. Ron stepped up to the plate when it was announced that
the customary practice of recording the sessions could not be followed.
Conference attendees as well as those who were not able to join us in Las
Vegas now have an opportunity to listen to 31 of the sessions.

We are making the complete set available at a very affordable $35 plus
modest shipping and handling costs. Shipping cost will vary depending on
the country to which the set is being delivered and will show up when you
go through the ordering system in the Mall. Nothing is charged to your
credit card until you approve, so don't be timid about using the system.
Ron will start burning CDs and shipping as soon as he begins to get
the orders. Hopefully you will keep him busy for the next few weeks!
To see a complete listing of which of the sessions were recorded visit
the JewishGenMall at www.jewishgenmall.org The quickest way to find
the complete description is to either enter the full title into the search
field, "IAJGS 2005 Conference Lectures in a 3 CD Set (MP3 audio files)"
or just select "Recorded Lectures" >from the Topic drop down box.
The sooner you order, the sooner you can enjoy listening to the conference
lectures at your leisure.

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Las Vegas Conference CD Set Now Available at the Mall #ukraine

Carol W. Skydell [mailto: cskydell@...
 

SUBJECT: Recorded IAJGS Conerence Sessions Ready for Shipment
Dear Genners..
We are delighted to tell you about a wonderful opportunity to own a set of
3 CDs containing 31 recorded presentations at the just concluded IAJGS
conference in Las Vegas. All this is thanks to Ron Arons and his small
army of volunteers. Ron stepped up to the plate when it was announced that
the customary practice of recording the sessions could not be followed.
Conference attendees as well as those who were not able to join us in Las
Vegas now have an opportunity to listen to 31 of the sessions.

We are making the complete set available at a very affordable $35 plus
modest shipping and handling costs. Shipping cost will vary depending on
the country to which the set is being delivered and will show up when you
go through the ordering system in the Mall. Nothing is charged to your
credit card until you approve, so don't be timid about using the system.
Ron will start burning CDs and shipping as soon as he begins to get
the orders. Hopefully you will keep him busy for the next few weeks!
To see a complete listing of which of the sessions were recorded visit
the JewishGenMall at www.jewishgenmall.org The quickest way to find
the complete description is to either enter the full title into the search
field, "IAJGS 2005 Conference Lectures in a 3 CD Set (MP3 audio files)"
or just select "Recorded Lectures" >from the Topic drop down box.
The sooner you order, the sooner you can enjoy listening to the conference
lectures at your leisure.

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Re: Canadian Census #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

The 1911 Canadian census data is a great source for location of relatives.
First the searcher must use the database of Canadian Archives. There are
instructions on how to search. Find the province: then the district: then
the subdistrict: then view the map. There is a wonderful set of maps that
are contemporaneous with the census. Viewers can be downloaded. Now the
trick is to correlate your relative's address with the district within which
the census was enumerated. If there was an Index of names, it would be a
snap! However this requires some tedious diggin.

Burt Hecht


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Canadian Census #general

Burt Hecht <burt1933@...>
 

The 1911 Canadian census data is a great source for location of relatives.
First the searcher must use the database of Canadian Archives. There are
instructions on how to search. Find the province: then the district: then
the subdistrict: then view the map. There is a wonderful set of maps that
are contemporaneous with the census. Viewers can be downloaded. Now the
trick is to correlate your relative's address with the district within which
the census was enumerated. If there was an Index of names, it would be a
snap! However this requires some tedious diggin.

Burt Hecht


Subject: Re: 1911 Canadian Census is now on-line! #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Genners:

Nick Landau >from the UK asked "What was the previous situation and what was
the argument for the change?" regarding the release of Canadian Census from
1911 forward. The best place to look up the history of this brouhaha is:
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index7.htm
Which is >from the Global Gazette, Canada's Genealogy and Heritage Magazine.

In short, it was the position taken by Statistics Canada (the agency
charged with the responsibility of collecting the census every 5 years) that
no public access would be allowed to individual census records taken after
1901. They refused to transfer the records to the National Archivist to
allow public access after the 92 years passed since collection. Their
position: it was prohibited by law to release individual census records due
to a series of legal opinions based >from 1981-1985 >from Justice Canada. One
clause >from the 1906 Census and Statistics Act assured respondents that
information given could not be used for taxation or other "contemporary"
concerns. Evidently this was a clause that had been in census since 1871
but first time the instructions were taken as "a rule of law".

A full explanation of the legal opinions and why it was determined they
were flawed -- which led to the 5 year legislative battle is explained at
the URL above.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee Chairperson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Subject: Re: 1911 Canadian Census is now on-line! #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Dear Genners:

Nick Landau >from the UK asked "What was the previous situation and what was
the argument for the change?" regarding the release of Canadian Census from
1911 forward. The best place to look up the history of this brouhaha is:
http://www.globalgenealogy.com/Census/Index7.htm
Which is >from the Global Gazette, Canada's Genealogy and Heritage Magazine.

In short, it was the position taken by Statistics Canada (the agency
charged with the responsibility of collecting the census every 5 years) that
no public access would be allowed to individual census records taken after
1901. They refused to transfer the records to the National Archivist to
allow public access after the 92 years passed since collection. Their
position: it was prohibited by law to release individual census records due
to a series of legal opinions based >from 1981-1985 >from Justice Canada. One
clause >from the 1906 Census and Statistics Act assured respondents that
information given could not be used for taxation or other "contemporary"
concerns. Evidently this was a clause that had been in census since 1871
but first time the instructions were taken as "a rule of law".

A full explanation of the legal opinions and why it was determined they
were flawed -- which led to the 5 year legislative battle is explained at
the URL above.

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee Chairperson


swastikas #general

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

On Jul 23, 2005, at 09:00 AM, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:

==There was a vintner named Hoshea in Second Temple era Judea who sealed his
wine jugs with swastikas embellishing his name. In the 2nd-3rd century
synagogue at Kfar Nahum (Capernaum), near the point where the Jordan flows into
the Sea of Galilee, a magen david and a swastika were placed side by side. I
doubt we can say either of these is related to Nazism. If you look hard enough,
I'm sure you'll find some 18th or 19th century Jewish relic decorated with a
row of swastikas--but that is no indicator that these Jews were anti-semites.
We shouldn't forget that the swastika is an ancient Hindu good luck
sign and that accursed hitler thought it was an aryan symbol.

Martha


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen swastikas #general

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

On Jul 23, 2005, at 09:00 AM, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:

==There was a vintner named Hoshea in Second Temple era Judea who sealed his
wine jugs with swastikas embellishing his name. In the 2nd-3rd century
synagogue at Kfar Nahum (Capernaum), near the point where the Jordan flows into
the Sea of Galilee, a magen david and a swastika were placed side by side. I
doubt we can say either of these is related to Nazism. If you look hard enough,
I'm sure you'll find some 18th or 19th century Jewish relic decorated with a
row of swastikas--but that is no indicator that these Jews were anti-semites.
We shouldn't forget that the swastika is an ancient Hindu good luck
sign and that accursed hitler thought it was an aryan symbol.

Martha