Dear Genners

I believe I have found an ancestor >from Lyachovichi, Belarus whose given
name is Yekhiyel. I am trying to match him up with other names I have >from
the same father. I have searched the JewishGen given names index with no
results. Could anyone tell me if this name is a version of Isaac, Itzko,
Benjamin, Ilya?

Stan Golembe
Canton, MA

Researching GALEMBA, GOLEMBE, GALEMBE; Lachwa, Lyachovicxhi, Pinsk

Dear Genners

I believe I have found an ancestor >from Lyachovichi, Belarus whose given
name is Yekhiyel. I am trying to match him up with other names I have >from
the same father. I have searched the JewishGen given names index with no
results. Could anyone tell me if this name is a version of Isaac, Itzko,
Benjamin, Ilya?

Stan Golembe
Canton, MA

Researching GALEMBA, GOLEMBE, GALEMBE; Lachwa, Lyachovicxhi, Pinsk

Hello Genners

I have found a reference to an ancestor in the "1881 list of Mozyr uyezd
people drafted in 1880 but did not report for duty". The list references the
"3rd draft office of Mozyr uyezd". I believe this draft office would include
the shtetl of Lachwa, but have no sure knowledge. Does anyone know how to
find out what towns the 3rd draft office would include?

Stan Golembe
Canton, MA

Researching GALEMBA, GOLEMBE, GALEMBE; Lachwa, Lyachovicxhi, Pinsk,

Hello Genners

I have found a reference to an ancestor in the "1881 list of Mozyr uyezd
people drafted in 1880 but did not report for duty". The list references the
"3rd draft office of Mozyr uyezd". I believe this draft office would include
the shtetl of Lachwa, but have no sure knowledge. Does anyone know how to
find out what towns the 3rd draft office would include?

Stan Golembe
Canton, MA

Researching GALEMBA, GOLEMBE, GALEMBE; Lachwa, Lyachovicxhi, Pinsk,

The period of 16-23 August 1943 marked the end for Jewish Bialystok. In
The Bialystoker Memorial Book, it is stated:

"During this period the final liquidation of the ghetto took place,
marked by heroic resistance of the ghetto Jews against the monstrous
oppressors. In that sorrowful week the ghetto was completely wiped off
the face of the earth, the resistance crushed in a wave of blood and
murder of the remaining 40,000 martyrs and Jewish Bialystok was turned
into a huge heap of ashes and dust."

Two ceremonies will commemorate this dark period in Bialystok's history
and the bravery of those who fought to the end.

In Bialystok, the commemoration will start at 12 Noon at the Memorial to
the Shoah Victims at the Zabia Street Ghetto Cemetery. Speeches by the
Mayor of Bialystok, a representative of the Israeli government, a
representative of the Jewish Community, and special guests >from overseas
will be followed by Kadish and the laying of wreaths and flowers to
honor the Bialystoker martyrs who perished during the Holocaust. After
the Ceremony, at 2:00 PM, all are invited to the Muzeum Wojska Polskiego
to view the exhibits, including "Bialystoker Jews at the Front during
World War II."

If you happen to be in Poland at this time, please try to attend.

In Israel, The Society of Former Residents of Bialystok and Surroundings
will hold the 62nd Remembrance Assembly at Kiryat Bialystok in Yehud.
The memorial will take place at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, 24 August 2005
near the Memorial Monument in the square of the Great Synagogue on Iccak
Melamed Street in Yehud.

If you live in Israel or happen to be visiting, please try to attend.

For more information, please go to
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/62Memorial.htm.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator

I HATE when I have no idea where I got a piece of information! In
recording birth register information, I've been entering the date from
column 3 as the date the birth was recorded. I know >from the info help
file that this is the date of the Bris or naming. So anybody have any
idea why I got the idea that this was the date the birth was recorded?
I know I'm asking for someone to read my mind, but I know that something
I read SOMEWHERE made me think that! Any ideas?

Fran
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net
***********************************
Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMANN (Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and
Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy)
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI (Amstibove/Mstibovo)
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL (Volhynia region)

The period of 16-23 August 1943 marked the end for Jewish Bialystok. In
The Bialystoker Memorial Book, it is stated:

"During this period the final liquidation of the ghetto took place,
marked by heroic resistance of the ghetto Jews against the monstrous
oppressors. In that sorrowful week the ghetto was completely wiped off
the face of the earth, the resistance crushed in a wave of blood and
murder of the remaining 40,000 martyrs and Jewish Bialystok was turned
into a huge heap of ashes and dust."

Two ceremonies will commemorate this dark period in Bialystok's history
and the bravery of those who fought to the end.

In Bialystok, the commemoration will start at 12 Noon at the Memorial to
the Shoah Victims at the Zabia Street Ghetto Cemetery. Speeches by the
Mayor of Bialystok, a representative of the Israeli government, a
representative of the Jewish Community, and special guests >from overseas
will be followed by Kadish and the laying of wreaths and flowers to
honor the Bialystoker martyrs who perished during the Holocaust. After
the Ceremony, at 2:00 PM, all are invited to the Muzeum Wojska Polskiego
to view the exhibits, including "Bialystoker Jews at the Front during
World War II."

If you happen to be in Poland at this time, please try to attend.

In Israel, The Society of Former Residents of Bialystok and Surroundings
will hold the 62nd Remembrance Assembly at Kiryat Bialystok in Yehud.
The memorial will take place at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, 24 August 2005
near the Memorial Monument in the square of the Great Synagogue on Iccak
Melamed Street in Yehud.

If you live in Israel or happen to be visiting, please try to attend.

For more information, please go to
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/62Memorial.htm.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator

I HATE when I have no idea where I got a piece of information! In
recording birth register information, I've been entering the date from
column 3 as the date the birth was recorded. I know >from the info help
file that this is the date of the Bris or naming. So anybody have any
idea why I got the idea that this was the date the birth was recorded?
I know I'm asking for someone to read my mind, but I know that something
I read SOMEWHERE made me think that! Any ideas?

Fran
Manassas, VA
FranSegall@comcast.net
***********************************
Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMANN (Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and
Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy)
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI (Amstibove/Mstibovo)
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL (Volhynia region)

The period of 16-23 August 1943 marked the end for Jewish Bialystok. In
The Bialystoker Memorial Book, it is stated:

"During this period the final liquidation of the ghetto took place,
marked by heroic resistance of the ghetto Jews against the monstrous
oppressors. In that sorrowful week the ghetto was completely wiped off
the face of the earth, the resistance crushed in a wave of blood and
murder of the remaining 40,000 martyrs and Jewish Bialystok was turned
into a huge heap of ashes and dust."

Two ceremonies will commemorate this dark period in Bialystok's history
and the bravery of those who fought to the end.

In Bialystok, the commemoration will start at 12 Noon at the Memorial to
the Shoah Victims at the Zabia Street Ghetto Cemetery. Speeches by the
Mayor of Bialystok, a representative of the Israeli government, a
representative of the Jewish Community, and special guests >from overseas
will be followed by Kadish and the laying of wreaths and flowers to
honor the Bialystoker martyrs who perished during the Holocaust. After
the Ceremony, at 2:00 PM, all are invited to the Muzeum Wojska Polskiego
to view the exhibits, including "Bialystoker Jews at the Front during
World War II."

If you happen to be in Poland at this time, please try to attend.

In Israel, The Society of Former Residents of Bialystok and Surroundings
will hold the 62nd Remembrance Assembly at Kiryat Bialystok in Yehud.
The memorial will take place at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, 24 August 2005
near the Memorial Monument in the square of the Great Synagogue on Iccak
Melamed Street in Yehud.

If you live in Israel or happen to be visiting, please try to attend.

For more information, please go to
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/62Memorial.htm.

Mark Halpern
Coordinator, BIALYGen, Bialystok Region Jewish Genealogy Group
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/homepage.htm

The period of 16-23 August 1943 marked the end for Jewish Bialystok. In
The Bialystoker Memorial Book, it is stated:

"During this period the final liquidation of the ghetto took place,
marked by heroic resistance of the ghetto Jews against the monstrous
oppressors. In that sorrowful week the ghetto was completely wiped off
the face of the earth, the resistance crushed in a wave of blood and
murder of the remaining 40,000 martyrs and Jewish Bialystok was turned
into a huge heap of ashes and dust."

Two ceremonies will commemorate this dark period in Bialystok's history
and the bravery of those who fought to the end.

In Bialystok, the commemoration will start at 12 Noon at the Memorial to
the Shoah Victims at the Zabia Street Ghetto Cemetery. Speeches by the
Mayor of Bialystok, a representative of the Israeli government, a
representative of the Jewish Community, and special guests >from overseas
will be followed by Kadish and the laying of wreaths and flowers to
honor the Bialystoker martyrs who perished during the Holocaust. After
the Ceremony, at 2:00 PM, all are invited to the Muzeum Wojska Polskiego
to view the exhibits, including "Bialystoker Jews at the Front during
World War II."

If you happen to be in Poland at this time, please try to attend.

In Israel, The Society of Former Residents of Bialystok and Surroundings
will hold the 62nd Remembrance Assembly at Kiryat Bialystok in Yehud.
The memorial will take place at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, 24 August 2005
near the Memorial Monument in the square of the Great Synagogue on Iccak
Melamed Street in Yehud.

If you live in Israel or happen to be visiting, please try to attend.

For more information, please go to
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/62Memorial.htm.

Mark Halpern
Coordinator, BIALYGen, Bialystok Region Jewish Genealogy Group
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/bialygen/homepage.htm

I am afraid that I have to beg and disagree with the
moderator's note concerning the a/m posting.Poland
between 1918-1939 included areas which are now in the
Ukraine.It might be relevant to this list.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

,> MODERATOR'S NOTE: This has been posted because so

many of you are confused about our borders. The JRIP
List is the one you should be using for Poland.

This isn't the place for a back & forth on differences of opinin. The borders of our SIG were determined 5 years ago when we
began, & this issue has been explained again & again!!! This thread is closed!

I am afraid that I have to beg and disagree with the
moderator's note concerning the a/m posting.Poland
between 1918-1939 included areas which are now in the
Ukraine.It might be relevant to this list.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem

,> MODERATOR'S NOTE: This has been posted because so

many of you are confused about our borders. The JRIP
List is the one you should be using for Poland.

This isn't the place for a back & forth on differences of opinin. The borders of our SIG were determined 5 years ago when we
began, & this issue has been explained again & again!!! This thread is closed!

On 2005.08.02, Karen Rosenfeld Roekard <roekard@lmi.net> asked:

[...] If, for example, a son became anything other than a rabbi
[...] would he still be listed on these family charts [...]? Are
the daughters all included [...]? Is there no consistency and it
just depends on the information that was available to Wunder in
his research? Is he totally, absolutely all inclusive and the
final word or are there other sources?

Rabbi Wunder is alive and well in Jerusalem, and can answer all
questions relating to his work. He speaks English, and is a
wonderful person to talk to. His phone numbers are published
in the Jerusalem phone book.

Aryeh Lopiansky
Jerusalem

Dear RavSIGgers,

A librarian has written to me asking where his institution can
obtain a copy of the CD-ROM version of Bernhard Friedberg's "Bet
Eked Seforim." Please contact me privately if you have any
suggestions.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, Mass., USA
mailto:jake@acm.org

On 2005.08.02, Karen Rosenfeld Roekard <roekard@lmi.net> asked:

[...] If, for example, a son became anything other than a rabbi
[...] would he still be listed on these family charts [...]? Are
the daughters all included [...]? Is there no consistency and it
just depends on the information that was available to Wunder in
his research? Is he totally, absolutely all inclusive and the
final word or are there other sources?

Rabbi Wunder is alive and well in Jerusalem, and can answer all
questions relating to his work. He speaks English, and is a
wonderful person to talk to. His phone numbers are published
in the Jerusalem phone book.

Aryeh Lopiansky
Jerusalem

Dear RavSIGgers,

A librarian has written to me asking where his institution can
obtain a copy of the CD-ROM version of Bernhard Friedberg's "Bet
Eked Seforim." Please contact me privately if you have any
suggestions.

Jake Goldstein
Boston, Mass., USA
mailto:jake@acm.org

A Thousand Threads. A Story told Through Yiddish Letters, Edited by Lily
Poritz Miller and Olga Zabludoff, and translated by Miriam Beckerman,
Washington DC: Remembrance Books, 2005 is a unique record of 250 letters
written in Yiddish between their uncle Zvi to family.

The letters tell the story of Jews in Lithuania in the 1920's. Zvi Shapiro
was stranded in Cuba on his way to the USA. He had lived in Butrimantz
(Butrimonys), Lithuania. The correspondence is mainly with his sister ( but
his family left behind in Lithuania ( Later killed in the shoah) also write.
He describes the difficulties facing a Litvak in Cuba, and many details of
life in Lithuania. His visa for the USA did not come through and he had to
try and make do in Cuba for a period. This is a unique story of migration,
displacement and resilience.

This can be ordered >from the publisher oz@intergate.com
isbn 0-9669349-1-1

Saul Issroff

A Thousand Threads. A Story told Through Yiddish Letters, Edited by Lily
Poritz Miller and Olga Zabludoff, and translated by Miriam Beckerman,
Washington DC: Remembrance Books, 2005 is a unique record of 250 letters
written in Yiddish between their uncle Zvi to family.

The letters tell the story of Jews in Lithuania in the 1920's. Zvi Shapiro
was stranded in Cuba on his way to the USA. He had lived in Butrimantz
(Butrimonys), Lithuania. The correspondence is mainly with his sister ( but
his family left behind in Lithuania ( Later killed in the shoah) also write.
He describes the difficulties facing a Litvak in Cuba, and many details of
life in Lithuania. His visa for the USA did not come through and he had to
try and make do in Cuba for a period. This is a unique story of migration,
displacement and resilience.

This can be ordered >from the publisher oz@intergate.com
isbn 0-9669349-1-1

Saul Issroff

In response to George's note, my great-grandfather's birth certificate from
Dubienka, Poland, 1874 documented two dates - the 16th and 28th of December
as his date of birth. I was not sure which one would correspond to our
current calendars. (I hadn't done my research on the Gregorian vs. Julian).

Michelle Barnea
Researching PUTER, SCHWARTZMAN in Poland

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Subject: Genealogy and calendar dates
From: "George Mason" <gmason3815@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:49:05 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Perhaps someone can clarify this for me: Poland converted >from the Julian to

the Gregorian calendar system in 1582. However, following the Third
Partition of Poland in the late 1700s, it became part of the Russian Empire,

which remained on the Julian Calendar until 1918. So, when one finds a
birth, marriage, or death date in pre-1918 Polish civil documents, does one
assume the date given is in Julian (Old Style) or Gregorian (New Style)
form?

George Mason
USA

Researching MOZESSON in Poland

In response to George's note, my great-grandfather's birth certificate from
Dubienka, Poland, 1874 documented two dates - the 16th and 28th of December
as his date of birth. I was not sure which one would correspond to our
current calendars. (I hadn't done my research on the Gregorian vs. Julian).

Michelle Barnea
Researching PUTER, SCHWARTZMAN in Poland

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Subject: Genealogy and calendar dates
From: "George Mason" <gmason3815@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 17:49:05 -0400
X-Message-Number: 1

Perhaps someone can clarify this for me: Poland converted >from the Julian to

the Gregorian calendar system in 1582. However, following the Third
Partition of Poland in the late 1700s, it became part of the Russian Empire,

which remained on the Julian Calendar until 1918. So, when one finds a
birth, marriage, or death date in pre-1918 Polish civil documents, does one
assume the date given is in Julian (Old Style) or Gregorian (New Style)
form?

George Mason
USA

Researching MOZESSON in Poland