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Grodno/Hrodna #belarus

PBethWeiss@...
 

Dear Group,
I have just joined this group, and wish to introduce myself. I am Paula
Weiss, >from New York, and have just found out that my GGM Rebekka PONITZ
SEGALOWITZ (b.1859) emigrated to the US in 1892 >from Grodno with three children.
Her husband, Max Moses SEGALOWITZ had emigrated 3 years prior to that. I have
the names of her parents, Hyman and Hilda she called them in 1935...but
that's all I have to go on as far as the family in Grodno.

I see that the LDS films available for Grodno are mainly church records. I
haven't been able to find them in the JewishGen databases...where would you
suggest I look to try to trace them?
Thank you for any help you can give to start me on this journey!
-Paula Weiss
New York
pbethweiss@aol.com


success story in riga #lithuania

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

I would like to thank the many people who gave me suggestions about
how to locate my relative >from the Gordin family. Lucky enough, we
asked our hotel staff at the vecriga hotel ( vecriga@vecriga.lv) for
help. During dinner the manager of the hotel restaurant, a man named
Yuris checked the local phonebook for our relative but didn't find
anyone under the address that we had. There were about 30 Gordins in
all of Riga, which made it a very daunting task to find our relative.
Since the archives were closed for the weekend he immediately
contacted an agency on our behalf and before we even finished our meal
Yuris returned and informed us of the name of our relative, his
address, and the telephone number of his neighbor, whom he called. Our
relative happened to be away >from home for the weekend and we were
scheduled to leave Riga on Monday at 12:00. We found his apartment on
Sunday and left a letter with his kind neighbor who identified our
relative in some pictures that we had brought and we left a letter
with this neighbor explaining our connection to the relative and
providing him with our contact information. To our surprise the
neighbor even told us that the relative has a brother in San
Francisco! As the next morning approached and we were packing to leave
Riga we assumed that we wouldn't be able to get in touch with our
relative. However, at 10:00am we got a message stating that he was
meeting us in an hour at our hotel. Our relative told us about cousins
who immigrated to Israel and we immediately called them and found out
that they have been visiting our grandfather's grave in Tel Aviv for
many years and have left several notes looking for us and providing us
with their contact information.

Eilat Gordin Levitan, writing >from Warsaw, home town Los Angeles


Belarus SIG #Belarus Grodno/Hrodna #belarus

PBethWeiss@...
 

Dear Group,
I have just joined this group, and wish to introduce myself. I am Paula
Weiss, >from New York, and have just found out that my GGM Rebekka PONITZ
SEGALOWITZ (b.1859) emigrated to the US in 1892 >from Grodno with three children.
Her husband, Max Moses SEGALOWITZ had emigrated 3 years prior to that. I have
the names of her parents, Hyman and Hilda she called them in 1935...but
that's all I have to go on as far as the family in Grodno.

I see that the LDS films available for Grodno are mainly church records. I
haven't been able to find them in the JewishGen databases...where would you
suggest I look to try to trace them?
Thank you for any help you can give to start me on this journey!
-Paula Weiss
New York
pbethweiss@aol.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania success story in riga #lithuania

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

I would like to thank the many people who gave me suggestions about
how to locate my relative >from the Gordin family. Lucky enough, we
asked our hotel staff at the vecriga hotel ( vecriga@vecriga.lv) for
help. During dinner the manager of the hotel restaurant, a man named
Yuris checked the local phonebook for our relative but didn't find
anyone under the address that we had. There were about 30 Gordins in
all of Riga, which made it a very daunting task to find our relative.
Since the archives were closed for the weekend he immediately
contacted an agency on our behalf and before we even finished our meal
Yuris returned and informed us of the name of our relative, his
address, and the telephone number of his neighbor, whom he called. Our
relative happened to be away >from home for the weekend and we were
scheduled to leave Riga on Monday at 12:00. We found his apartment on
Sunday and left a letter with his kind neighbor who identified our
relative in some pictures that we had brought and we left a letter
with this neighbor explaining our connection to the relative and
providing him with our contact information. To our surprise the
neighbor even told us that the relative has a brother in San
Francisco! As the next morning approached and we were packing to leave
Riga we assumed that we wouldn't be able to get in touch with our
relative. However, at 10:00am we got a message stating that he was
meeting us in an hour at our hotel. Our relative told us about cousins
who immigrated to Israel and we immediately called them and found out
that they have been visiting our grandfather's grave in Tel Aviv for
many years and have left several notes looking for us and providing us
with their contact information.

Eilat Gordin Levitan, writing >from Warsaw, home town Los Angeles


researchers and documents #belarus

Sabrina Rabinovich
 

Dear list

I'm new on the Jewishgen and need some advice. I was
looking a list of researchers but did not find any.
Maybe some of you knows a good one who works in
Vilna. I have many family names to search in the
region of Smorgany (Lithuania) and Druya (Belarus).
Can any of you confirm the availability of Druya
documents in Lithuanian archives?
Many thanks in advance.

Sabrina Rabinovich
sabrina_rab@yahoo.com
France

Researching: Milmann, Levy, Rabinovich (Smorgany),
Jofe, Grinin (Druya)
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies only.


Belarus SIG #Belarus researchers and documents #belarus

Sabrina Rabinovich
 

Dear list

I'm new on the Jewishgen and need some advice. I was
looking a list of researchers but did not find any.
Maybe some of you knows a good one who works in
Vilna. I have many family names to search in the
region of Smorgany (Lithuania) and Druya (Belarus).
Can any of you confirm the availability of Druya
documents in Lithuanian archives?
Many thanks in advance.

Sabrina Rabinovich
sabrina_rab@yahoo.com
France

Researching: Milmann, Levy, Rabinovich (Smorgany),
Jofe, Grinin (Druya)
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies only.


The "0" and "X" marks #poland

BLACKTHORN@...
 

My understanding of early Jewish immigrants was that those who in fact were
unable to write their names used a circle instead of an X because the X was
considered to be a Christian mark symbolizing the sign of the cross. In
Yiddish a circle is a kichel, hence the probable origin of the word Kike to
denote a Jew. Keeping in mind that most goyim were not good at their "chh"
sounds.

Sherwin Zaban
Blackthorn@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Further discussion of the etymology of words mentioned
in this post should be carried on privately, as they are not within the
scope of this list.


JRI Poland #Poland The "0" and "X" marks #poland

BLACKTHORN@...
 

My understanding of early Jewish immigrants was that those who in fact were
unable to write their names used a circle instead of an X because the X was
considered to be a Christian mark symbolizing the sign of the cross. In
Yiddish a circle is a kichel, hence the probable origin of the word Kike to
denote a Jew. Keeping in mind that most goyim were not good at their "chh"
sounds.

Sherwin Zaban
Blackthorn@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Further discussion of the etymology of words mentioned
in this post should be carried on privately, as they are not within the
scope of this list.


Traveling to SIENIAWA and ZELECHOW - need guide or other help #poland

A G <wildelmo1@...>
 

Hi all,

I'm currently in Berlin and would like to make an
unplanned stop in Poland before I return to the US via
London. The two major towns I want to visit, mainly
to look at the Jewish cemetaries, but also for
archival research if possible, are SIENIAWA (near
JAROSLAW on the San river) and ZELECHOW.

I speak no Polish, but a little bit of German and
Yiddish. I have no idea of how to get around, and a
relatively small budget. I also need to be back in
London by Monday, and want to avoid visiting the
cemetaries on Shabbat if possible, out of respect for
my religious ancestors.

Anyhow, if anyone can provide me with some basic help,
or put me in touch with anyone who can, please email me
directly, and include phone numbers if possible.

The info is needed ASAP, as I plan to leave for Warsaw
today or tomorrow as the first leg of the journey.

Thanks!

- Abe

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Traveling to SIENIAWA and ZELECHOW - need guide or other help #poland

A G <wildelmo1@...>
 

Hi all,

I'm currently in Berlin and would like to make an
unplanned stop in Poland before I return to the US via
London. The two major towns I want to visit, mainly
to look at the Jewish cemetaries, but also for
archival research if possible, are SIENIAWA (near
JAROSLAW on the San river) and ZELECHOW.

I speak no Polish, but a little bit of German and
Yiddish. I have no idea of how to get around, and a
relatively small budget. I also need to be back in
London by Monday, and want to avoid visiting the
cemetaries on Shabbat if possible, out of respect for
my religious ancestors.

Anyhow, if anyone can provide me with some basic help,
or put me in touch with anyone who can, please email me
directly, and include phone numbers if possible.

The info is needed ASAP, as I plan to leave for Warsaw
today or tomorrow as the first leg of the journey.

Thanks!

- Abe

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Illiteracy #poland

madeleine
 

Several people have replied to my last message, mentioning that perhaps the
Jews knew Yiddish and Hebrew but not Polish or Russian. And that was the
reason they added the three circles, indicating illiteracy. That is hard
for me to believe. Even if they didnt know Polish well, I think they must
have known enough Polish to write their names.

But even if it is true, that they only knew Yiddish and Hebrew, it doesnt
explain why they didn't sign their names in Yiddish, as so many others did.

I still believe that the circles indicated the absence of the witnesses to
sign the document, and not illiteracy.

Madeleine Okladek


JRI Poland #Poland Illiteracy #poland

madeleine
 

Several people have replied to my last message, mentioning that perhaps the
Jews knew Yiddish and Hebrew but not Polish or Russian. And that was the
reason they added the three circles, indicating illiteracy. That is hard
for me to believe. Even if they didnt know Polish well, I think they must
have known enough Polish to write their names.

But even if it is true, that they only knew Yiddish and Hebrew, it doesnt
explain why they didn't sign their names in Yiddish, as so many others did.

I still believe that the circles indicated the absence of the witnesses to
sign the document, and not illiteracy.

Madeleine Okladek


Re: city location #hungary

Ted Grossman <tgrossman@...>
 

By any chance to you mean Csuz? It's where my father was born, and is
now a part of Slovakia, and with the name Domika.
Ted Grossman
Eastsound

On Aug 11, 2005, at 5:26 AM, Cass Twitchell wrote:

Does anyone have any information re the location of the town, vilage
or city
of Csur Hungary 11/87?
Cassandra Csuri Twitchell,
Ashland Ohio USA


Osztrogoszk #hungary

more0318@...
 

I found a record for one of my relatives, who was last recorded in a
Hungarian Labour Battalion in 1943 at Osztrogoszk. I can't find this
location on a map. Does anyone know where it is and what it is called now?
Thanks.

Mike More
mikemore@rogers.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: city location #hungary

Ted Grossman <tgrossman@...>
 

By any chance to you mean Csuz? It's where my father was born, and is
now a part of Slovakia, and with the name Domika.
Ted Grossman
Eastsound

On Aug 11, 2005, at 5:26 AM, Cass Twitchell wrote:

Does anyone have any information re the location of the town, vilage
or city
of Csur Hungary 11/87?
Cassandra Csuri Twitchell,
Ashland Ohio USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Osztrogoszk #hungary

more0318@...
 

I found a record for one of my relatives, who was last recorded in a
Hungarian Labour Battalion in 1943 at Osztrogoszk. I can't find this
location on a map. Does anyone know where it is and what it is called now?
Thanks.

Mike More
mikemore@rogers.com


FHL JEWISH RECORDS FOR HUNGARY #hungary

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Genners,

Does anyone know if there are more Jewish records for Hungarian towns that
have not yet been filmed? Is it worth it to contact the county archives to
ask if these records exist?

Thanks.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary FHL JEWISH RECORDS FOR HUNGARY #hungary

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Genners,

Does anyone know if there are more Jewish records for Hungarian towns that
have not yet been filmed? Is it worth it to contact the county archives to
ask if these records exist?

Thanks.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com


translation/interpretation help #hungary

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be grateful for translation/interpretation assistance on a Hungarian
marriage record. The record is an 1872 marriage for Sigmund BRAUNER and
Betti NEUMAN in Komarom, Hungary. Since I have several images of the
record, I have placed it on a web page rather than on ViewMate. I have
indicated my specific questions on the web page. The URL is:
http://www.patentstation.com/family2/braunerneumann.htm

I would greatly appreciate any responses. Please respond directly to me at
marc@patentstation.com.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@patentstation.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary translation/interpretation help #hungary

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be grateful for translation/interpretation assistance on a Hungarian
marriage record. The record is an 1872 marriage for Sigmund BRAUNER and
Betti NEUMAN in Komarom, Hungary. Since I have several images of the
record, I have placed it on a web page rather than on ViewMate. I have
indicated my specific questions on the web page. The URL is:
http://www.patentstation.com/family2/braunerneumann.htm

I would greatly appreciate any responses. Please respond directly to me at
marc@patentstation.com.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@patentstation.com