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Seeking information: Heinrich FERNICH and Theresia ISRAEL #germany

Carlota Widman Dublon <cwidman@...>
 

Seeking information regarding Heinrich FERNICH born ca. 1823 in Klotten,
died in 1909 in Schweich.

Parents Samuel FERNICH (or VERNIG) and Theresia ISRAEL.

I am trying to confirm if Heinrich´s father Samuel and my gggrandfather
Lazarus FERNICH (married to Magdalena KOCH, Gemuenden) were either brothers
or first cousins. Also to establish if he have had descendants (probably
born in Klotten or any other town, excepting Schweich) as well as
information about his wife Theresia and the Isay >from Oberemmel.

Henrich FERNICH was married - according to the booklet "Die jüdische
Bevölkerung im Einvohnerbuch Schweich 1669
bis 1880" by Hans Peter Bungert - to Jettchen FERBER b. ca. 1817 in
Oberemmel (the daughter of Israel FERBER and Esther ISAY).

Also living in this town appears Judgen FERBER, who seems to have been
Jettchen´s sister, according to the above mentioned source. She became in
1845 Moises Isay (b. 1769 -d- 1849 Schweich) second wife.
Thanks for your cooperation.

Carlota Widman Montevideo-Uruguay cwidman@adinet.com.uy


Jews in England -- Thank you #general

ggforhim2
 

Thank you to all who responded both onlist and of to
my questions about Jews in England, who moved to
America and what they would have been called in
America.

Shalom,
Glenda Hitchcock



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German SIG #Germany Seeking information: Heinrich FERNICH and Theresia ISRAEL #germany

Carlota Widman Dublon <cwidman@...>
 

Seeking information regarding Heinrich FERNICH born ca. 1823 in Klotten,
died in 1909 in Schweich.

Parents Samuel FERNICH (or VERNIG) and Theresia ISRAEL.

I am trying to confirm if Heinrich´s father Samuel and my gggrandfather
Lazarus FERNICH (married to Magdalena KOCH, Gemuenden) were either brothers
or first cousins. Also to establish if he have had descendants (probably
born in Klotten or any other town, excepting Schweich) as well as
information about his wife Theresia and the Isay >from Oberemmel.

Henrich FERNICH was married - according to the booklet "Die jüdische
Bevölkerung im Einvohnerbuch Schweich 1669
bis 1880" by Hans Peter Bungert - to Jettchen FERBER b. ca. 1817 in
Oberemmel (the daughter of Israel FERBER and Esther ISAY).

Also living in this town appears Judgen FERBER, who seems to have been
Jettchen´s sister, according to the above mentioned source. She became in
1845 Moises Isay (b. 1769 -d- 1849 Schweich) second wife.
Thanks for your cooperation.

Carlota Widman Montevideo-Uruguay cwidman@adinet.com.uy


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jews in England -- Thank you #general

ggforhim2
 

Thank you to all who responded both onlist and of to
my questions about Jews in England, who moved to
America and what they would have been called in
America.

Shalom,
Glenda Hitchcock



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Re: Posen BOF #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Joseph Fibel schrieb:
At one time Posen was separate and at another time it was part of East
Prussia, in both cases German speaking. Of course now it is part of Poland.
(Poznan)
My comment:
Whatever it was - it certainly was never part of EAST Prussia ...

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


German SIG #Germany Re: Posen BOF #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

Joseph Fibel schrieb:
At one time Posen was separate and at another time it was part of East
Prussia, in both cases German speaking. Of course now it is part of Poland.
(Poznan)
My comment:
Whatever it was - it certainly was never part of EAST Prussia ...

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany


Salzburg synagogue #austria-czech

elisabeth segal <darla1504@...>
 

I want to express my grateful thanks to Celia for all her kindness and hard
work, on my behalf. It has been very much appreciated. At last I now know
where my father's family lived in the East End.

May I now ask, please can anyone please tell me what happened to the
synagogue in Salzburg. Was it destroyed on Crystal Night, was it ever
rebuilt? Does anyone know?

kindest regards and best wishes to you all
Elisabeth Segal
Essex, England


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Salzburg synagogue #austria-czech

elisabeth segal <darla1504@...>
 

I want to express my grateful thanks to Celia for all her kindness and hard
work, on my behalf. It has been very much appreciated. At last I now know
where my father's family lived in the East End.

May I now ask, please can anyone please tell me what happened to the
synagogue in Salzburg. Was it destroyed on Crystal Night, was it ever
rebuilt? Does anyone know?

kindest regards and best wishes to you all
Elisabeth Segal
Essex, England


Re: Klepperle / Klepplerer #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I recently replied to the David Laufer's query on the KLEPPERLE family
from Bohemia and Vienna.
Before we get completely immersed in a flood of introductions and
re-introductions, I would like to tie up various loose ends. There are
still very many unanswered questions which have appeared on our SIG in
recent months. The SIG only becomes of real value if we concentrate on
each posting, try and answer questions in it and analyse available data
to get maximum value >from each query. Unanswered postings are very frustrating.

So back to the KLEPPERLE family. I have been working with Jaroslav Achab
Haidler in the Czech Republic and he tells me [I have his permission to
quote] that a KLEPPER is an old horse in German and Bohemian dialect
A KLEPPERER might be a dealer in horses. Perhaps a knacker?

The root name would be KLEPPER. The suffixes are as we already know:
*es* is the possessive
*in* is the feminine ending
*le and les* are diminutives - ie the little KLEPPER
Something or somebody belonging to the little
KLEPPER is designated KLEPPERLES

Whether the family actually dealt in horse/livestock we do not know - it
may also have been a nickname assigned to them.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Klepperle / Klepplerer #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I recently replied to the David Laufer's query on the KLEPPERLE family
from Bohemia and Vienna.
Before we get completely immersed in a flood of introductions and
re-introductions, I would like to tie up various loose ends. There are
still very many unanswered questions which have appeared on our SIG in
recent months. The SIG only becomes of real value if we concentrate on
each posting, try and answer questions in it and analyse available data
to get maximum value >from each query. Unanswered postings are very frustrating.

So back to the KLEPPERLE family. I have been working with Jaroslav Achab
Haidler in the Czech Republic and he tells me [I have his permission to
quote] that a KLEPPER is an old horse in German and Bohemian dialect
A KLEPPERER might be a dealer in horses. Perhaps a knacker?

The root name would be KLEPPER. The suffixes are as we already know:
*es* is the possessive
*in* is the feminine ending
*le and les* are diminutives - ie the little KLEPPER
Something or somebody belonging to the little
KLEPPER is designated KLEPPERLES

Whether the family actually dealt in horse/livestock we do not know - it
may also have been a nickname assigned to them.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Searching for SCHWARTZ and GINSBURG, USA #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

It appears that the GINSBURG and SCHWARTZ families as described by Jill
Anderson do not exist in the voluminous Rokiskis records, although there are
plenty of other families by those last names who did exist.

The reason for this may be the following:

The names of the parents and chldren which Jill has are not as they appear
in the records as her names are Anglicized.

The family may have evaded or paid off the tax agents and therefore are not
listed.

The family were registered in another shtetl where they resided prior to
Rokiskis and their registration was never changed to Rokiskis.

They may actually have lived in Rokiskis a very short time and therefore not
been included in any records.

The family names of SCHWARTZ and GINSBURG may have been bogus and taken on
to avoid conscription, etc. The real family name under which they are
listed in the records may not be known.

Some avenues to try and find the family are:

Check the death records/cemetery records in England for the parents Jacob
and Dvorah and see who their parents were. Also find the ages of the
children and grandchildren to determine when they would have appeared in
various records for Rokiskis.

Look further into other related families and see if records exist for them.

You can also try to look through the Ellis Island Database and see if the
two brothers are listed.

Perhaps you will get lucky and some JewishGenner will recognize your family
names!!!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Searching for SCHWARTZ and GINSBURG, USA #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

It appears that the GINSBURG and SCHWARTZ families as described by Jill
Anderson do not exist in the voluminous Rokiskis records, although there are
plenty of other families by those last names who did exist.

The reason for this may be the following:

The names of the parents and chldren which Jill has are not as they appear
in the records as her names are Anglicized.

The family may have evaded or paid off the tax agents and therefore are not
listed.

The family were registered in another shtetl where they resided prior to
Rokiskis and their registration was never changed to Rokiskis.

They may actually have lived in Rokiskis a very short time and therefore not
been included in any records.

The family names of SCHWARTZ and GINSBURG may have been bogus and taken on
to avoid conscription, etc. The real family name under which they are
listed in the records may not be known.

Some avenues to try and find the family are:

Check the death records/cemetery records in England for the parents Jacob
and Dvorah and see who their parents were. Also find the ages of the
children and grandchildren to determine when they would have appeared in
various records for Rokiskis.

Look further into other related families and see if records exist for them.

You can also try to look through the Ellis Island Database and see if the
two brothers are listed.

Perhaps you will get lucky and some JewishGenner will recognize your family
names!!!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Rebecca LIDDIARD b 1852 #general

Keith Martin <keithmart@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am new to this list, but I am looking for anyone who has the above lady on
their family tree. She married Emanuel Levie STAAL. They are my great
grandparents. I would be over the moon if anyone has a photograph of her, as
I have one of her mother, and her daughter (My grandmother)

Best regards
Keith Martin
Leeds UK
Researching STAAL, VAZ MARTINES, HAMBRO
amongst others

MODERATOR NOTE: The "above lady" refers to Rebecca LIDDIARD, whose name
appears in the subject line. We are repeating it here because not all mail readers
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rebecca LIDDIARD b 1852 #general

Keith Martin <keithmart@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am new to this list, but I am looking for anyone who has the above lady on
their family tree. She married Emanuel Levie STAAL. They are my great
grandparents. I would be over the moon if anyone has a photograph of her, as
I have one of her mother, and her daughter (My grandmother)

Best regards
Keith Martin
Leeds UK
Researching STAAL, VAZ MARTINES, HAMBRO
amongst others

MODERATOR NOTE: The "above lady" refers to Rebecca LIDDIARD, whose name
appears in the subject line. We are repeating it here because not all mail readers
show the subject line at the same time as the body of the message.


Let's do it and not say we did! (The "thanks" thread) #general

zionsharav
 

The JewishGen Discussion Group is so friendly, so helpful, and so *big*.
I think that it would lighten the traffic and let us focus on new
issues if we thanked each other privately only. Also, a personal note
is more meaningful to the recipient.
-Ari Dale, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Let's do it and not say we did! (The "thanks" thread) #general

zionsharav
 

The JewishGen Discussion Group is so friendly, so helpful, and so *big*.
I think that it would lighten the traffic and let us focus on new
issues if we thanked each other privately only. Also, a personal note
is more meaningful to the recipient.
-Ari Dale, MD


Knopflmacher Stammbaum #austria-czech

rodihan@...
 

A few months ago, I was fortunate enough to obtain a copy of a KNOPFLMACHER
Family Stammbaum. It was written about 1905 by a distant relative, Moritz
[Mordechai] KNOPFLMACHER (1828-1910) of Vienna, and is about 65 pages long.
The first few pages, all in Hebrew (which I've since had translated), outline
how the KNOPFLMACHER family of Holesov, Moravia is descended >from Jehuda Loew,
the MaHaRal of Prague.

For anyone who potentially might be connected with this family, here are some
of the families that KNOPFLMACHER daughters, granddaughters, or other
descendants married into: GOLDSCHMIED of Nikolsburg, DEUTSCH of Mistek,
KURZ of Kojetein, WOLF of Mahr. Weisskirchen, ADLER of Holesov (later AGUILAR
of Spain and Portugal), BEER of Holesov, SINGER of Ung Brod, HAAS of Lhotta,
WOLF of Napajedl, GROSS of Geiring, GOLDHAMMER of Kremsier and Vienna, SCHNER
of Ung Brod, FISCHER of Holesov, SCHLESINGER of Zambokrat, LANG of Zambokret,
HOFFMANN of Klotschunska, MULLER of Vienna, ZERKOWITZ of Holesov and Vienna,
ORSTEIN of Wessely, BLICH of Krakau, DONATH of Lipthal, MULLER of Hullein,
KAUFMANN of Vienna, EICHENWALD of Vienna, KAISER of Bisenz, KAPP of Napajedl,
BERGER of Bisenz, REISS of Kolusow and Trencin, HAAS of Liborcsa and United
States, JUST of Ilava, MANGOLD of Postyan and Vienna, KRAUSZ of Bosacz, WEINER
of Ivanka, KANN of ?, HOLZMANN of Michelstetten, NEUGROSCHL of Bosacz, STERNER
of Neustadtl, SCHONER of Ujhely ("dann Debreczen"), HERZOG of Verbo, WINKLER
of Prossnitz, JELLINEK of Vienna, HERZ of Prostejov, FRIESS of Prostejov,
RUMPLER of Prostejov, HUPPERL of Prostejov. SCHNURMACHER of Napajadl,
GOLDSTEIN of Napajedl, POLLACK of Napajedl, STRASSMANN of Napajedl, BELLAK
of Napajedl, KOHN of Holesov and Wsetin, and many other surnames.

The Stammbaum also gives special treatment to the MORGENSTERN family of Strany,
the REDLICH family of Wiesenberg and Olomouc, the POLLACK family of Boikowitz,
the KOHN family of Wessely, the OPPENHEIMER family of Leipnik (many pages),
and the STRANSKY family (of Ronov?)

If any of these families and locations connect with the research that others
are doing, I would be happy to pass along information contained in this Stammbaum.

Best regards,

Robert Hanscom
Andover, Massachusetts USA

Researching in Moravia: TAUBER, ZERKOWITZ, KNOPFLMACHER, ZWILLINGER, BRULL,
LAZAR, and many other surnames


MOSCOWITZ family from MA and NY #general

steven weiss <szome@...>
 

Looking for persons related to the MOSCOWITZ family that lived in Whitman,
Massachusetts (1910 census) and then moved to Middle Village, New York.

Steven Weiss
Chicago


Bnai Israel Cemetery, Oxon Hill Maryland #general

Israel P
 

A couple of days ago, I tried phoning the Bnai Israel Cemetery in Oxon
Hill Maryland using the phone number (ending 9603) that is in the IAJGS
listing. I got a recording that the number is not in service. I checked
some other online sites and got the same number.

Does anyone have a working number for this cemetery? Or better yet, an
email address?

Israel Pickholtz


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Knopflmacher Stammbaum #austria-czech

rodihan@...
 

A few months ago, I was fortunate enough to obtain a copy of a KNOPFLMACHER
Family Stammbaum. It was written about 1905 by a distant relative, Moritz
[Mordechai] KNOPFLMACHER (1828-1910) of Vienna, and is about 65 pages long.
The first few pages, all in Hebrew (which I've since had translated), outline
how the KNOPFLMACHER family of Holesov, Moravia is descended >from Jehuda Loew,
the MaHaRal of Prague.

For anyone who potentially might be connected with this family, here are some
of the families that KNOPFLMACHER daughters, granddaughters, or other
descendants married into: GOLDSCHMIED of Nikolsburg, DEUTSCH of Mistek,
KURZ of Kojetein, WOLF of Mahr. Weisskirchen, ADLER of Holesov (later AGUILAR
of Spain and Portugal), BEER of Holesov, SINGER of Ung Brod, HAAS of Lhotta,
WOLF of Napajedl, GROSS of Geiring, GOLDHAMMER of Kremsier and Vienna, SCHNER
of Ung Brod, FISCHER of Holesov, SCHLESINGER of Zambokrat, LANG of Zambokret,
HOFFMANN of Klotschunska, MULLER of Vienna, ZERKOWITZ of Holesov and Vienna,
ORSTEIN of Wessely, BLICH of Krakau, DONATH of Lipthal, MULLER of Hullein,
KAUFMANN of Vienna, EICHENWALD of Vienna, KAISER of Bisenz, KAPP of Napajedl,
BERGER of Bisenz, REISS of Kolusow and Trencin, HAAS of Liborcsa and United
States, JUST of Ilava, MANGOLD of Postyan and Vienna, KRAUSZ of Bosacz, WEINER
of Ivanka, KANN of ?, HOLZMANN of Michelstetten, NEUGROSCHL of Bosacz, STERNER
of Neustadtl, SCHONER of Ujhely ("dann Debreczen"), HERZOG of Verbo, WINKLER
of Prossnitz, JELLINEK of Vienna, HERZ of Prostejov, FRIESS of Prostejov,
RUMPLER of Prostejov, HUPPERL of Prostejov. SCHNURMACHER of Napajadl,
GOLDSTEIN of Napajedl, POLLACK of Napajedl, STRASSMANN of Napajedl, BELLAK
of Napajedl, KOHN of Holesov and Wsetin, and many other surnames.

The Stammbaum also gives special treatment to the MORGENSTERN family of Strany,
the REDLICH family of Wiesenberg and Olomouc, the POLLACK family of Boikowitz,
the KOHN family of Wessely, the OPPENHEIMER family of Leipnik (many pages),
and the STRANSKY family (of Ronov?)

If any of these families and locations connect with the research that others
are doing, I would be happy to pass along information contained in this Stammbaum.

Best regards,

Robert Hanscom
Andover, Massachusetts USA

Researching in Moravia: TAUBER, ZERKOWITZ, KNOPFLMACHER, ZWILLINGER, BRULL,
LAZAR, and many other surnames