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MENDLOWICZ Josef Ide living relative #general

zemi <mmz@...>
 

Hi researchers
A lot of detective work and help >from other researchers, whom I thank ,
brought me to Ellis I. where I found someone >from my father's family who is
the only one to escape before the war ii.as far as we know.
Josef Ide Mendlowicz and Gryna(ORBUCH) were married (or registersd)in
Crasnobord, in 1898.
I have the marriage certificate.
Josef's father Moshe Yankel MENDLOWICZ was the
Brother of Mendel Dawid Mendlowicz.
thats my g.fathers g.father. it is a long way back, but it's the only family
I know of so far on my fathers side.

MENDELOWICZ Gryna >from Komarow Poland, landed in Ellis Island in 1921 at
age 44,(b. 1877).
Found on the manifest : 2 - 627581 6/17/39.
and her husband living at: 71 Cannon st. New York N.Y. , with her father
(>from Komarow) .
Found on Jri-poland:
Her husband Josef Ide MENDELOWICZ >from Crasnobord.
Below her on the manifest/ or Ellis list,
MENDELOWICZ Chawa age 9.
MENDELOWICZ dawid age 6.
MENDELOWICZ Naftali age 14.
(MENDLOWICZ Chaje age 18.arrived 1920 not 1921 like the others.)but also a
daughter.
Agood man sent me this:
I searched the 1930 census and found the attached family in Brooklyn.
Joseph, Gussie, Eva and David. Apparently Naftali was on his own by then,
perhaps married. The census shows them as Mendewitz. I could not find an N.
Mendelwitz in the 1930 census.

I could not find any person named Mendewitz in the Social Security Death
Index nor a David Mandel or Mendel that fits the profile. David almost
certainly Americanized his name, but to what is unknown.

Unfortunately it will take much research to find the family. You would have
to hire a professional genealogist to do the research.
So before I turn to proffesional help ,
Is there anyone out there who knows or knew : Gussie/Gryna MENDWITZ/ORBUCH
Eva or David or Naftali or Chaje MENDLWITZ / or similar.
The fourth daughter- Chaje Mendlowicz Arrived August 12 1920 >from Rotterdam
and there is address of father Josef Mendlowicz 107 debevoise str. Brooklyn

If I went it alone , what would my next step be ?
Zelick Mendelovich England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MENDLOWICZ Josef Ide living relative #general

zemi <mmz@...>
 

Hi researchers
A lot of detective work and help >from other researchers, whom I thank ,
brought me to Ellis I. where I found someone >from my father's family who is
the only one to escape before the war ii.as far as we know.
Josef Ide Mendlowicz and Gryna(ORBUCH) were married (or registersd)in
Crasnobord, in 1898.
I have the marriage certificate.
Josef's father Moshe Yankel MENDLOWICZ was the
Brother of Mendel Dawid Mendlowicz.
thats my g.fathers g.father. it is a long way back, but it's the only family
I know of so far on my fathers side.

MENDELOWICZ Gryna >from Komarow Poland, landed in Ellis Island in 1921 at
age 44,(b. 1877).
Found on the manifest : 2 - 627581 6/17/39.
and her husband living at: 71 Cannon st. New York N.Y. , with her father
(>from Komarow) .
Found on Jri-poland:
Her husband Josef Ide MENDELOWICZ >from Crasnobord.
Below her on the manifest/ or Ellis list,
MENDELOWICZ Chawa age 9.
MENDELOWICZ dawid age 6.
MENDELOWICZ Naftali age 14.
(MENDLOWICZ Chaje age 18.arrived 1920 not 1921 like the others.)but also a
daughter.
Agood man sent me this:
I searched the 1930 census and found the attached family in Brooklyn.
Joseph, Gussie, Eva and David. Apparently Naftali was on his own by then,
perhaps married. The census shows them as Mendewitz. I could not find an N.
Mendelwitz in the 1930 census.

I could not find any person named Mendewitz in the Social Security Death
Index nor a David Mandel or Mendel that fits the profile. David almost
certainly Americanized his name, but to what is unknown.

Unfortunately it will take much research to find the family. You would have
to hire a professional genealogist to do the research.
So before I turn to proffesional help ,
Is there anyone out there who knows or knew : Gussie/Gryna MENDWITZ/ORBUCH
Eva or David or Naftali or Chaje MENDLWITZ / or similar.
The fourth daughter- Chaje Mendlowicz Arrived August 12 1920 >from Rotterdam
and there is address of father Josef Mendlowicz 107 debevoise str. Brooklyn

If I went it alone , what would my next step be ?
Zelick Mendelovich England


Morse Sites #general

Diane Frankel <dlfrankel@...>
 

Does anyone know why the Steve Morse Ellis Island One Step sites are down?

Diane PRESSMAN FRANKEL
North Miami Beach, FL
dlfrankel@mindspring.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Morse Sites #general

Diane Frankel <dlfrankel@...>
 

Does anyone know why the Steve Morse Ellis Island One Step sites are down?

Diane PRESSMAN FRANKEL
North Miami Beach, FL
dlfrankel@mindspring.com


Re: cemetery statistics #poland

Altersolomon@...
 

In a message dated 10/07/2005 05:27:42 GMT Standard Time,
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu writes:

Can anyone supply or suggest where to find statistics about the state of
Lithuanian cemeteries and their documentation?


******************************************************************************

When I last visited the Jewish Community Centre in Vilnius more than 10
years ago I seem to recall a project they were undertaking of photographing all
the Jewish cemeteries in Lithuania. I have not heard what happened to the
project.

alter solomon


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: cemetery statistics #lithuania

Altersolomon@...
 

In a message dated 10/07/2005 05:27:42 GMT Standard Time,
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu writes:

Can anyone supply or suggest where to find statistics about the state of
Lithuanian cemeteries and their documentation?


******************************************************************************

When I last visited the Jewish Community Centre in Vilnius more than 10
years ago I seem to recall a project they were undertaking of photographing all
the Jewish cemeteries in Lithuania. I have not heard what happened to the
project.

alter solomon


Discounted Price on Josef Rosin's book only until July 31 #lithuania

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

For LitvakSIGgers who have not yet had a chance to purchase Josef Rosin's
monumental work "Preserving Our LitvaK Heritage" we urge you to review
this JewishGenMall offering at a special discounted price lasting only to
July 31st. Rosin's book focuses on 31 Jewish communities in Lithuania and
is replete with names and pictures obtained >from public as well as private
resources. It is a book that will be treasured by all whose families
originated in these towns. The 31 communities are:

Alytus, Birzai, Jurbarkas, Kaisiadorys, Kapciamiestis, Klaipeda, Kudirkos
Naumiestis, Kybartai, Lazdijai, Lygumai, Marijampole, Merkine, Panevezys,
Pilviskiai, Prienai, Sakiai, Salantai, Seirijai, Seta, Stakliskes, Sudargas,
Taurage, Tauragnai, Telsiai, Utena, Varena, Veisiejai, Vilkaviskis, Virbalis,
Zeimelis, and Zemaiciu Naumiestis

If you have interests in, or family origins >from these towns, it behooves
you to act now and save $30 off the list price of this extraordinary
book. The special discounted price (offered during the just concluded
IAJGS Conference in Las Vegas) will end on July 31. Please take a moment
to read more about the book by visiting http://www.jewishgenmall.org

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Discounted Price on Josef Rosin's book only until July 31 #lithuania

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

For LitvakSIGgers who have not yet had a chance to purchase Josef Rosin's
monumental work "Preserving Our LitvaK Heritage" we urge you to review
this JewishGenMall offering at a special discounted price lasting only to
July 31st. Rosin's book focuses on 31 Jewish communities in Lithuania and
is replete with names and pictures obtained >from public as well as private
resources. It is a book that will be treasured by all whose families
originated in these towns. The 31 communities are:

Alytus, Birzai, Jurbarkas, Kaisiadorys, Kapciamiestis, Klaipeda, Kudirkos
Naumiestis, Kybartai, Lazdijai, Lygumai, Marijampole, Merkine, Panevezys,
Pilviskiai, Prienai, Sakiai, Salantai, Seirijai, Seta, Stakliskes, Sudargas,
Taurage, Tauragnai, Telsiai, Utena, Varena, Veisiejai, Vilkaviskis, Virbalis,
Zeimelis, and Zemaiciu Naumiestis

If you have interests in, or family origins >from these towns, it behooves
you to act now and save $30 off the list price of this extraordinary
book. The special discounted price (offered during the just concluded
IAJGS Conference in Las Vegas) will end on July 31. Please take a moment
to read more about the book by visiting http://www.jewishgenmall.org

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Re: Comments regarding reserches in Poland Part 1 #general

Stanley Diamond
 

"Marius Loeffler" <varicoseveins@southwest.com.au>

My expierience with reserches is negtive and my advice is to be very
careful. I approached one group of researches who claimed to be graduates
from Warsaw University in History. They wrote that they will start initial
research and they will show the result and they will ask for deposit. They
asked me alot of questions. After several weeks and letters I received
e-mail telling me that after initial research and thanks to the fact that
they know fellow >from Jewish Historical Institute they found several names
Loeffler (which is my name) and as a matter of fact I did not ask them to
find the name Loeffler because I know all the Loefflers in Poland I asked
them about completely different matter. Obviously they did not even read my
story but they asked me to pay them deposit of $300 USA I did not reply.
Private researches in Poland can do very little. They have no access to the
archives and they might charge you for bogus services. The best is to deal
with Archives directly or even go to Poland. You might find it much cheaper.
If you do not know Polish that might be handicap. They are plenty of oficial
translators.
My advice is Beware!
Dr Marius Loeffler
It is regretable that Dr. Loeffler has had such a negative experience with
private researchers in Poland.

I would like to shed a different light on this subject.

There have been a number of posts on the JewishGen and Jewish
Records Indexing - Poland lists asking for recommendations of the
names of private researchers. For both lists, the moderators ask
people to respond privately and they do.

Because there are a number of excellent private researchers in
Poland, I imagine others will echo my comments about some of the
wonderful work they do. The good ones are very busy so it may
mean waiting a while for results. But, at the end of the day, you
can expect a detailed report - whether or not they have been able
to find the specific information you are seeking.

That being said, I would like to add another thought...

While engaging a private researcher may ferret out records for only
your own family, joining with fellow researchers to index these records
through Jewish Records Indexing - Poland <www.jri-poland.org>
will make these records accessible to your own family -- as well as other
families with roots in that town. It is this spirit of sharing that
characterizes the world of Jewish genealogy and the success of JRI-Poland.

To start or participate in such a cooperative project in Poland, I invite
researchers to join the JRI-Poland mailing list and to post your questions
re towns and sources. There is a lot of expertise out there and by
reaching out in this manner, you can both help yourself and many of
your co-researchers and, perhaps, generations of researchers in the
years ahead.

Stanley Diamond
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Comments regarding reserches in Poland Part 1 #general

Stanley Diamond
 

"Marius Loeffler" <varicoseveins@southwest.com.au>

My expierience with reserches is negtive and my advice is to be very
careful. I approached one group of researches who claimed to be graduates
from Warsaw University in History. They wrote that they will start initial
research and they will show the result and they will ask for deposit. They
asked me alot of questions. After several weeks and letters I received
e-mail telling me that after initial research and thanks to the fact that
they know fellow >from Jewish Historical Institute they found several names
Loeffler (which is my name) and as a matter of fact I did not ask them to
find the name Loeffler because I know all the Loefflers in Poland I asked
them about completely different matter. Obviously they did not even read my
story but they asked me to pay them deposit of $300 USA I did not reply.
Private researches in Poland can do very little. They have no access to the
archives and they might charge you for bogus services. The best is to deal
with Archives directly or even go to Poland. You might find it much cheaper.
If you do not know Polish that might be handicap. They are plenty of oficial
translators.
My advice is Beware!
Dr Marius Loeffler
It is regretable that Dr. Loeffler has had such a negative experience with
private researchers in Poland.

I would like to shed a different light on this subject.

There have been a number of posts on the JewishGen and Jewish
Records Indexing - Poland lists asking for recommendations of the
names of private researchers. For both lists, the moderators ask
people to respond privately and they do.

Because there are a number of excellent private researchers in
Poland, I imagine others will echo my comments about some of the
wonderful work they do. The good ones are very busy so it may
mean waiting a while for results. But, at the end of the day, you
can expect a detailed report - whether or not they have been able
to find the specific information you are seeking.

That being said, I would like to add another thought...

While engaging a private researcher may ferret out records for only
your own family, joining with fellow researchers to index these records
through Jewish Records Indexing - Poland <www.jri-poland.org>
will make these records accessible to your own family -- as well as other
families with roots in that town. It is this spirit of sharing that
characterizes the world of Jewish genealogy and the success of JRI-Poland.

To start or participate in such a cooperative project in Poland, I invite
researchers to join the JRI-Poland mailing list and to post your questions
re towns and sources. There is a lot of expertise out there and by
reaching out in this manner, you can both help yourself and many of
your co-researchers and, perhaps, generations of researchers in the
years ahead.

Stanley Diamond
Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Discounted Price on Josef Rosin's book only until July 31 #general

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

For JewishGenners who have not yet had a chance to purchase Josef Rosin's
monumental work "Preserving Our Litvak Heritage" we urge you to review
this JewishGenMall offering at a special discounted price lasting only to
July 31st. Rosin's book focuses on 31 Jewish communities in Lithuania and
is replete with names and pictures obtained >from public as well as private
resources. It is a book that will be treasured by all whose families
originated in these towns. The 31 communities are:

Alytus, Birzai, Jurbarkas, Kaisiadorys, Kapciamiestis, Klaipeda, Kudirkos
Naumiestis, Kybartai, Lazdijai, Lygumai, Marijampole, Merkine, Panevezys,
Pilviskiai, Prienai, Sakiai, Salantai, Seirijai, Seta, Stakliskes, Sudargas,
Taurage, Tauragnai, Telsiai, Utena, Varena, Veisiejai, Vilkaviskis, Virbalis,
Zeimelis, and Zemaiciu Naumiestis

If you have interests in, or family origins >from these towns, it behooves
you to act now and save $30 off the list price of this extraordinary
book. The special discounted price (offered during the IAJGS just
concluded Conference in Las Vegas) will end on July 31. Please take a
moment to read more about the book by visiting
http://www.jewishgenmall.org

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Discounted Price on Josef Rosin's book only until July 31 #general

Carol W. Skydell <cskydell@...>
 

For JewishGenners who have not yet had a chance to purchase Josef Rosin's
monumental work "Preserving Our Litvak Heritage" we urge you to review
this JewishGenMall offering at a special discounted price lasting only to
July 31st. Rosin's book focuses on 31 Jewish communities in Lithuania and
is replete with names and pictures obtained >from public as well as private
resources. It is a book that will be treasured by all whose families
originated in these towns. The 31 communities are:

Alytus, Birzai, Jurbarkas, Kaisiadorys, Kapciamiestis, Klaipeda, Kudirkos
Naumiestis, Kybartai, Lazdijai, Lygumai, Marijampole, Merkine, Panevezys,
Pilviskiai, Prienai, Sakiai, Salantai, Seirijai, Seta, Stakliskes, Sudargas,
Taurage, Tauragnai, Telsiai, Utena, Varena, Veisiejai, Vilkaviskis, Virbalis,
Zeimelis, and Zemaiciu Naumiestis

If you have interests in, or family origins >from these towns, it behooves
you to act now and save $30 off the list price of this extraordinary
book. The special discounted price (offered during the IAJGS just
concluded Conference in Las Vegas) will end on July 31. Please take a
moment to read more about the book by visiting
http://www.jewishgenmall.org

Carol

Carol W. Skydell, Vice President
JewishGen Special Projects


Viewmate 6488 - Yiddish Translation #general

rxbaum@...
 

Dear Genners:

Thank you to those Genners who responded to my request for a translation to
English.

Best Regards,

Richie Baum


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 6488 - Yiddish Translation #general

rxbaum@...
 

Dear Genners:

Thank you to those Genners who responded to my request for a translation to
English.

Best Regards,

Richie Baum


Looking for the off spring of Rubin ROSNER from Dabrowa Tarnowska #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,
Further to my previous posting of today I found out
that Rubin ROSNER (b.1914) who came with his parents
to the USA in 1920 died in Morris Plains NJ in 2002.
He had a sister Malka (b.1911) who is called in the
1930 Census Mildred. He had an older brothe
Nathan(b.1909) whose name i do not find in SSDI.
Rubin Rosner whose parents were Judah and Gele(Gussi)
is probably my 2nd cousin.
Would appreciate any lead to find his family members.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for the off spring of Rubin ROSNER from Dabrowa Tarnowska #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners,
Further to my previous posting of today I found out
that Rubin ROSNER (b.1914) who came with his parents
to the USA in 1920 died in Morris Plains NJ in 2002.
He had a sister Malka (b.1911) who is called in the
1930 Census Mildred. He had an older brothe
Nathan(b.1909) whose name i do not find in SSDI.
Rubin Rosner whose parents were Judah and Gele(Gussi)
is probably my 2nd cousin.
Would appreciate any lead to find his family members.
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


marriage of first cousins #general

jutel@...
 

In 1893, in Chicago, my great grandparents, first cousins,
married legally. that they were first cousins is family
knowledge, and has not been confirmed by my research.
However, what looks likely is that the bride lied about her
parents' names in order to obtain this legal marriage. Her
marriage certificate records her maiden name as ROSENBERG,
when both family knowledge, and my own research quite
clearly confirm that she was born DROZDOWITZ and married a
DROZDOWITZ. This deception on the marriage certificate
seems to indicate that marriage between first cousins was
not allowed in Illinois at the time.

Annemarie Jutel
Wellington, New Zealand


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen marriage of first cousins #general

jutel@...
 

In 1893, in Chicago, my great grandparents, first cousins,
married legally. that they were first cousins is family
knowledge, and has not been confirmed by my research.
However, what looks likely is that the bride lied about her
parents' names in order to obtain this legal marriage. Her
marriage certificate records her maiden name as ROSENBERG,
when both family knowledge, and my own research quite
clearly confirm that she was born DROZDOWITZ and married a
DROZDOWITZ. This deception on the marriage certificate
seems to indicate that marriage between first cousins was
not allowed in Illinois at the time.

Annemarie Jutel
Wellington, New Zealand


NY first cousin marriage #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

NY Domestic Relations Law prohibits marriage between
sibs, ancestors and descendants, uncle and niece, aunt and nephew.
It does not prohibit marriages between first cousins. I cannot say
what the law provided in 1909.
A marriage between prohibited persons is void if contracted
in NY, or in any place where it is void. If a marriage between prohibited
persons, such as uncle and niece, is contracted in a state where such
a marriage is valid, NY will treat the marriage as valid.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
U. of San Diego Law School, 5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110-2492
lazer@sandiego.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY first cousin marriage #general

Herbert Lazerow
 

NY Domestic Relations Law prohibits marriage between
sibs, ancestors and descendants, uncle and niece, aunt and nephew.
It does not prohibit marriages between first cousins. I cannot say
what the law provided in 1909.
A marriage between prohibited persons is void if contracted
in NY, or in any place where it is void. If a marriage between prohibited
persons, such as uncle and niece, is contracted in a state where such
a marriage is valid, NY will treat the marriage as valid.
Bert
Herbert Lazerow
U. of San Diego Law School, 5998 Alcala Park, San Diego CA 92110-2492
lazer@sandiego.edu