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Re: finding out where someone is buried #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kruveet k" <kruveet@gmail.com>

If I have a person's social security number and the exact date he was
born and died - how can I find out where he is buried?

Thank you
Chagit Finkelstein


If you have the exact date of the person's death,
you can look for an obituary which will hopefully
name the cemetery, or at least the funeral home.

If you got your information >from the social security
death index, the location listed is not always the same
as where the person died. It is the location where their
final payment was sent. Sometimes this can be a
nursing home, or the address of a relative who lived in
a different location.

If you are certain the location is where the person died,
the best thing to do is send for a death certificate. It will
name the cemetery.

If you did not get your information >from the social security
death index, then you can look up your information there
to confirm the information you have found. Try www.rootsweb.com

To my knowledge, the social security number will not help
you find any additional information.

Lisa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: finding out where someone is buried #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kruveet k" <kruveet@gmail.com>

If I have a person's social security number and the exact date he was
born and died - how can I find out where he is buried?

Thank you
Chagit Finkelstein


If you have the exact date of the person's death,
you can look for an obituary which will hopefully
name the cemetery, or at least the funeral home.

If you got your information >from the social security
death index, the location listed is not always the same
as where the person died. It is the location where their
final payment was sent. Sometimes this can be a
nursing home, or the address of a relative who lived in
a different location.

If you are certain the location is where the person died,
the best thing to do is send for a death certificate. It will
name the cemetery.

If you did not get your information >from the social security
death index, then you can look up your information there
to confirm the information you have found. Try www.rootsweb.com

To my knowledge, the social security number will not help
you find any additional information.

Lisa


Re: finding out where someone is buried #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 04:01:04 UTC, kruveet@gmail.com (Kruveet k)
opined:

If I have a person's social security number and the exact date he was
born and died - how can I find out where he is buried?

Thank you
Chagit Finkelstein
Kruviti haMetuka...

You can look in the Social Security Death Index. Best to use the one
provided by the New England Historic Genealogical Society
<http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/database/ss/default.asp>
because it is free. Assuming you can find him there, which is very
probable since you have his SSN and date of death, it will tell you
his place of residence at the time of death. That, of course, is the
most probable place (or vicinity) in which he is buried. >from that
point, it is a matter of writing to cemeteries and asking. This
doesn't always work. I once knew for a fact in which cemetery the
object of my search was buried, but found out only later, after many
fruitless and frustrating inquiries, that he had been disintered
later, and moved to a cemetery more cnvenient to the home of one of
his descendants.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

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is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: finding out where someone is buried #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 04:01:04 UTC, kruveet@gmail.com (Kruveet k)
opined:

If I have a person's social security number and the exact date he was
born and died - how can I find out where he is buried?

Thank you
Chagit Finkelstein
Kruviti haMetuka...

You can look in the Social Security Death Index. Best to use the one
provided by the New England Historic Genealogical Society
<http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/database/ss/default.asp>
because it is free. Assuming you can find him there, which is very
probable since you have his SSN and date of death, it will tell you
his place of residence at the time of death. That, of course, is the
most probable place (or vicinity) in which he is buried. >from that
point, it is a matter of writing to cemeteries and asking. This
doesn't always work. I once knew for a fact in which cemetery the
object of my search was buried, but found out only later, after many
fruitless and frustrating inquiries, that he had been disintered
later, and moved to a cemetery more cnvenient to the home of one of
his descendants.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Insight into naming #general

HeleneBergman@...
 

My cousin lost her husband right after her grandson was born and
before the bris. The boy, originally to be named for his great-grandfather,
was named for both the newly-deceased grandfather and the great-
grandfather, with the name Menachem (comfort) added before.

Lanie Bergman
HeleneBergman@netscape.net
searching: FARFEL, STEINMAN, SCHWARTZ, BERGMAN, WOLF, ALEXANDER,
MEYER, WAHRENBERG, WARSHAVSKY, SPIVAK(OFF)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Insight into naming #general

HeleneBergman@...
 

My cousin lost her husband right after her grandson was born and
before the bris. The boy, originally to be named for his great-grandfather,
was named for both the newly-deceased grandfather and the great-
grandfather, with the name Menachem (comfort) added before.

Lanie Bergman
HeleneBergman@netscape.net
searching: FARFEL, STEINMAN, SCHWARTZ, BERGMAN, WOLF, ALEXANDER,
MEYER, WAHRENBERG, WARSHAVSKY, SPIVAK(OFF)


Re: Census Puzzle #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:48:14 UTC, martin@insytecorp.com (nitram)
opined:

I did a search for prwr and found that this question has been going on
for years and I could find no definitive answer.

According to my search three things are possible (1) prwr means prewar.
This seemed to be disregarded immediately because it was found on 1910
census and how would anyone know that a war was coming ... hence pre
war makes no sense. (2) pr wr could mean prisoner of war, and (3) some
individuals found grmy prwr on census' >from people they were sure were
from Russia. Some think that it may be an early means of some machine
presorting code.

However, I am intrigued and I will keep searching.

Martin Kleiner
"Keep searching" covers a multitude of sins, because it is amorphous.

Whatever its meaning, the string seems to be an ad hoc code for some
step in processing by the Census Bureau. This suggests that
application to the Census Bureau might disclose its meaning. The
website of this agency is at <http://www.census.gov>. In all
probability, there is a "Contact us" address or form somewhere on it.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Census Puzzle #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:48:14 UTC, martin@insytecorp.com (nitram)
opined:

I did a search for prwr and found that this question has been going on
for years and I could find no definitive answer.

According to my search three things are possible (1) prwr means prewar.
This seemed to be disregarded immediately because it was found on 1910
census and how would anyone know that a war was coming ... hence pre
war makes no sense. (2) pr wr could mean prisoner of war, and (3) some
individuals found grmy prwr on census' >from people they were sure were
from Russia. Some think that it may be an early means of some machine
presorting code.

However, I am intrigued and I will keep searching.

Martin Kleiner
"Keep searching" covers a multitude of sins, because it is amorphous.

Whatever its meaning, the string seems to be an ad hoc code for some
step in processing by the Census Bureau. This suggests that
application to the Census Bureau might disclose its meaning. The
website of this agency is at <http://www.census.gov>. In all
probability, there is a "Contact us" address or form somewhere on it.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Bnai Israel Cemetery, Oxon Hill Maryland #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 04:01:32 UTC, IsraelP@pikholz.org (Israel P)
opined:

A couple of days ago, I tried phoning the Bnai Israel Cemetery in Oxon
Hill Maryland using the phone number (ending 9603) that is in the IAJGS
listing. I got a recording that the number is not in service. I checked
some other online sites and got the same number.

Does anyone have a working number for this cemetery? Or better yet, an
email address?

Israel Pickholtz
Israel...

This cemetery belongs to a beit knesset of the same name. Even if the
telephone listed for the cemetery is out of service, that for the
synagogue itself must sure be operable. If you have difficulty in
finding the latter, or if its listing also turns out to be defunct,
please phone or email me, and I will activate my Montgomery County
family to make the contact for you.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER, GRISARU, VATARU: >from Dorohoi District,
Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bnai Israel Cemetery, Oxon Hill Maryland #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 04:01:32 UTC, IsraelP@pikholz.org (Israel P)
opined:

A couple of days ago, I tried phoning the Bnai Israel Cemetery in Oxon
Hill Maryland using the phone number (ending 9603) that is in the IAJGS
listing. I got a recording that the number is not in service. I checked
some other online sites and got the same number.

Does anyone have a working number for this cemetery? Or better yet, an
email address?

Israel Pickholtz
Israel...

This cemetery belongs to a beit knesset of the same name. Even if the
telephone listed for the cemetery is out of service, that for the
synagogue itself must sure be operable. If you have difficulty in
finding the latter, or if its listing also turns out to be defunct,
please phone or email me, and I will activate my Montgomery County
family to make the contact for you.
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER, GRISARU, VATARU: >from Dorohoi District,
Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: B'nai Israel Congregation #general

John Warshawsky <j_warshawsky@...>
 

Do you know whether the Oxon Hill cemetery is
affiliated with the B'nai Israel congregation in
Baltimore or Rockville? My guess is that it's the
Rockville congregation, and if that's the case, call
the synagogue at (301) 881-6550. The Baltimore
congregation's number is (410) 732-5454, but they
have their own cemetery in Baltimore.

John Warshawsky
Bethesda, Maryland


A couple of days ago, I tried phoning the Bnai Israel Cemetery in Oxon
Hill Maryland using the phone number (ending 9603) that is in the IAJGS
listing. I got a recording that the number is not in service. I checked
some other online sites and got the same number.

Does anyone have a working number for this cemetery?
Or better yet, an
email address?

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: B'nai Israel Congregation #general

John Warshawsky <j_warshawsky@...>
 

Do you know whether the Oxon Hill cemetery is
affiliated with the B'nai Israel congregation in
Baltimore or Rockville? My guess is that it's the
Rockville congregation, and if that's the case, call
the synagogue at (301) 881-6550. The Baltimore
congregation's number is (410) 732-5454, but they
have their own cemetery in Baltimore.

John Warshawsky
Bethesda, Maryland


A couple of days ago, I tried phoning the Bnai Israel Cemetery in Oxon
Hill Maryland using the phone number (ending 9603) that is in the IAJGS
listing. I got a recording that the number is not in service. I checked
some other online sites and got the same number.

Does anyone have a working number for this cemetery?
Or better yet, an
email address?

Israel Pickholtz


Zrenjanin #hungary

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

Hello >from Budapest.

I have been in touch with a person >from a Serbian Genealogy group (I am new
to it aned do not know much about what goes on in Serbia, genealogy wise)
who informed me that the Jewish community in Serbia keep their own
documents. Is this true? Does any one know about Jewish Registers for
Zrenjanin (Nagy Beckerek), or Yasi Tomic (Modos)? Please let me know before
I go there for no apparent reason.

Peter Bakos


Hungary SIG #Hungary Zrenjanin #hungary

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

Hello >from Budapest.

I have been in touch with a person >from a Serbian Genealogy group (I am new
to it aned do not know much about what goes on in Serbia, genealogy wise)
who informed me that the Jewish community in Serbia keep their own
documents. Is this true? Does any one know about Jewish Registers for
Zrenjanin (Nagy Beckerek), or Yasi Tomic (Modos)? Please let me know before
I go there for no apparent reason.

Peter Bakos


Re: Help with a firm's address - Kosice/Kassa #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There are directories out there but finding them for the war years will be
next to impossible. The National Library in Prague has copies for 1925 and
1926:

Adresár mesta Košic = Košice város címjegyzék
Boehnel, Richard
Košice : Stát. kníhtl.,
1925

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Re: Re. Kisvarda 1919 graduation photo VM6577 #hungary

Miriam.Rubin@...
 

my great aunts were in kisvarda, though i don't know the graduating class
or the year. i will pass it around my family and see.
miriam rubin

Rose Linden <rose732741@yahoo.com>
07/28/2005 11:10 PM
Please respond to "H-SIG"

To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
cc:
Subject: [h-sig] Re. Kisvarda 1919 graduation photo VM6577

Hi Kisvarda folks,

My mother, Erzsebet Klein, was a member of the
Kisvarda's women's graduating class of 1919 and a
picture of the group is on Viewmate--VM6577. Perhaps
someone will find a familiar face there. If so,
please E mail me at
rose732741@yahoo.com

Rose Linden
Little Silver, N.J.


Re: Tokaj Records #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Hi,

Thank you very much for supplying me with the Tokaj film
number.

Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY



On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
The anyakonyv (synagogue) records (births, marriage,
deaths)for Tokaj is available through the local FHL
branch libraries (LDS/Mormon). Bith the catalog and
location of libraries is available at:
www.familysearch.org.

Here are the references:

Title Anyakönyvek, 1827-1895
Authors Izraelita Hitközseg, Tokaj (Main Author)

Note Location
Film
Születtek, házasultak, halottak 1827-1895 FHL INTL
Film
642959 Item 3

Robert Neu


--- "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know what records are available for
Tokaj from
before 1870? Are there other records besides those
at the
Family History Centers?

My great-grandfather, Moshe Weinstock (1869 - 1949)
was
born there to Jonas WEINSTOCK and Roza (Rochel)
BENJAMIN.

Thanks!
Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Help with a firm's address - Kosice/Kassa #hungary

Gabriela Svatos
 

There are directories out there but finding them for the war years will be
next to impossible. The National Library in Prague has copies for 1925 and
1926:

Adresár mesta Košic = Košice város címjegyzék
Boehnel, Richard
Košice : Stát. kníhtl.,
1925

Regards,
Gabi

Gabriela Svatos
Richmond Hill, Ontario
E-mail: gsvatos@hotmail.com
Business E-mail: bookstore@agawa.com
Business URL: www.abe.com/home/GSVATOS


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Re. Kisvarda 1919 graduation photo VM6577 #hungary

Miriam.Rubin@...
 

my great aunts were in kisvarda, though i don't know the graduating class
or the year. i will pass it around my family and see.
miriam rubin

Rose Linden <rose732741@yahoo.com>
07/28/2005 11:10 PM
Please respond to "H-SIG"

To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
cc:
Subject: [h-sig] Re. Kisvarda 1919 graduation photo VM6577

Hi Kisvarda folks,

My mother, Erzsebet Klein, was a member of the
Kisvarda's women's graduating class of 1919 and a
picture of the group is on Viewmate--VM6577. Perhaps
someone will find a familiar face there. If so,
please E mail me at
rose732741@yahoo.com

Rose Linden
Little Silver, N.J.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Tokaj Records #hungary

moishe@langsam.com <moishe@...>
 

Hi,

Thank you very much for supplying me with the Tokaj film
number.

Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY



On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:21:32 -0700 (PDT)
Robert Neu <roneu1@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
The anyakonyv (synagogue) records (births, marriage,
deaths)for Tokaj is available through the local FHL
branch libraries (LDS/Mormon). Bith the catalog and
location of libraries is available at:
www.familysearch.org.

Here are the references:

Title Anyakönyvek, 1827-1895
Authors Izraelita Hitközseg, Tokaj (Main Author)

Note Location
Film
Születtek, házasultak, halottak 1827-1895 FHL INTL
Film
642959 Item 3

Robert Neu


--- "moishe@langsam.com" <moishe@langsam.com> wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone know what records are available for
Tokaj from
before 1870? Are there other records besides those
at the
Family History Centers?

My great-grandfather, Moshe Weinstock (1869 - 1949)
was
born there to Jonas WEINSTOCK and Roza (Rochel)
BENJAMIN.

Thanks!
Moishe Miller
moishe@langsam.com
Brooklyn, NY