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Re: jcr-uk digest: April 14, 2005 #unitedkingdom

Sharon <shouav@...>
 

Hi I would be very grateful, if you could possibly give me advice on how
you discovered things that you wanted on this data base I do not seem to
be having much luck. Thanks A lot Sharon
Researching: Spitalsky (aka Allen) , Kmenik, Bacher, Ascher, Flater,
Segal (Belarus, Poland, United Kingdom)

-----Original Message-----
From: JCR-UK SIG digest [mailto:jcr-uk@...]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:00 AM
To: jcr-uk digest recipients
Subject: jcr-uk digest: April 14, 2005

JCR-UK Digest for Thursday, April 14, 2005.

1. RE: UK Times Newspaper - free trial search for one week
2. UK Times Free
3. COHEN/JACOBS Marriage 1860

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: UK Times Newspaper - free trial search for one week
From: "Lois Kaufman" <lois@...>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:53:20 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Thank you Sylvia for drawing my/our attention to this website. Not only
did
I access the Times newspaper archives, but I also managed to get access
to
all the records on Ancestry.com via a site called Ancestry Plus which is
also listed and available! There are other useful databases available
too. I
tried to access the digital image of a biography of a distant relative
who
has an entry in Who's Who in America, but unfortunately this attempt was
not
successful. If anyone finds that it is possible to access such images,
then
please let us know. I have made some good progress in other areas,
however,
thanks to this new tool. It's a shame the offer has to end so soon!!!

Regards,

Lois Kaufman


Dear All,

Just in case you haven't fathomed out just HOW to take advantage of the
one
week free UK Times newspaper search, here is how to get in and search:

http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/itsbtrial

password = graphics

scroll down to Times Digital Archive link and clik on it to
search

Its great - I've found several references to family members. My only
criticism would be that the print is very small, and doesn't enlarge
well
(once saved to file).

Enjoy!

Sylvia Kaye


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom RE: jcr-uk digest: April 14, 2005 #unitedkingdom

Sharon <shouav@...>
 

Hi I would be very grateful, if you could possibly give me advice on how
you discovered things that you wanted on this data base I do not seem to
be having much luck. Thanks A lot Sharon
Researching: Spitalsky (aka Allen) , Kmenik, Bacher, Ascher, Flater,
Segal (Belarus, Poland, United Kingdom)

-----Original Message-----
From: JCR-UK SIG digest [mailto:jcr-uk@...]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:00 AM
To: jcr-uk digest recipients
Subject: jcr-uk digest: April 14, 2005

JCR-UK Digest for Thursday, April 14, 2005.

1. RE: UK Times Newspaper - free trial search for one week
2. UK Times Free
3. COHEN/JACOBS Marriage 1860

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: RE: UK Times Newspaper - free trial search for one week
From: "Lois Kaufman" <lois@...>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:53:20 +0100
X-Message-Number: 1

Thank you Sylvia for drawing my/our attention to this website. Not only
did
I access the Times newspaper archives, but I also managed to get access
to
all the records on Ancestry.com via a site called Ancestry Plus which is
also listed and available! There are other useful databases available
too. I
tried to access the digital image of a biography of a distant relative
who
has an entry in Who's Who in America, but unfortunately this attempt was
not
successful. If anyone finds that it is possible to access such images,
then
please let us know. I have made some good progress in other areas,
however,
thanks to this new tool. It's a shame the offer has to end so soon!!!

Regards,

Lois Kaufman


Dear All,

Just in case you haven't fathomed out just HOW to take advantage of the
one
week free UK Times newspaper search, here is how to get in and search:

http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/itsbtrial

password = graphics

scroll down to Times Digital Archive link and clik on it to
search

Its great - I've found several references to family members. My only
criticism would be that the print is very small, and doesn't enlarge
well
(once saved to file).

Enjoy!

Sylvia Kaye


New to this list #unitedkingdom

Arnold Samlan
 

Hello.I am new to this list, and wanted to introduce myself. My name is
Arnold Samlan. My grandmother, Rae (Rachel) Shenker and her sister, Jennie
Shenker immigrated >from England to Montreal in the early 1900's. Rae married Abe
Samlan, while Jennie married Hyman Altman.

There is some conjecture that Jennie and Rae might have been in an
orphanage, and came to Canada to be raised by family, but it's not completely clear.

There is also evidence that their parents were Hyman and Fannie. The only
Hyman Shenker I've found >from that period in England thus far is one listed on a
census in Lancashire.

Any help in tracking down infrormation about their British roots and their
move to Canada would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Researching: SAMLAN (CHICAGO, HAMILTON ONT., MONTREAL), SHENKER (MONTREAL,
ENGLAND), KOOPERMAN/COOPERMAN/KUPERMAN (YARUN/YARIN), BRODER (HIRCHIRKI ??)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom New to this list #unitedkingdom

Arnold Samlan
 

Hello.I am new to this list, and wanted to introduce myself. My name is
Arnold Samlan. My grandmother, Rae (Rachel) Shenker and her sister, Jennie
Shenker immigrated >from England to Montreal in the early 1900's. Rae married Abe
Samlan, while Jennie married Hyman Altman.

There is some conjecture that Jennie and Rae might have been in an
orphanage, and came to Canada to be raised by family, but it's not completely clear.

There is also evidence that their parents were Hyman and Fannie. The only
Hyman Shenker I've found >from that period in England thus far is one listed on a
census in Lancashire.

Any help in tracking down infrormation about their British roots and their
move to Canada would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Researching: SAMLAN (CHICAGO, HAMILTON ONT., MONTREAL), SHENKER (MONTREAL,
ENGLAND), KOOPERMAN/COOPERMAN/KUPERMAN (YARUN/YARIN), BRODER (HIRCHIRKI ??)


Klaus EICHENWALD or REICHER-KAMPUS #latinamerica

Drovs@t-online.de <Drovs@...>
 

For my friend I'm looking for her younger brother KLAUS EICHENWALD. In
JGFF and FTJP he's mentioned twice, but those who posted his name there
don't know anything more about him.
Klaus was born May 20th 1933 in Billerbeck/Westfalia - Germany as the
son of Siegfried Eichenwald, called Fritz, and Hilde, née Hertz. His
sister Marion was born in May 1929 in Billerbeck, too. The family
escaped for La Paz - Bolivia in February 1940. Marion saw him last in
the early fifties in La Paz. She and her husband Juan would be very very
happy to get any information about Klaus. He has probably taken the name
"REICHER-KAMPUS" or so. Who ever met Klaus Reicher-Kampus, née
Eichenwald and can tell anything about his fate?

Dagmar Drovs
Billerbeck/Germany


Latin America #LatinAmerica Klaus EICHENWALD or REICHER-KAMPUS #latinamerica

Drovs@t-online.de <Drovs@...>
 

For my friend I'm looking for her younger brother KLAUS EICHENWALD. In
JGFF and FTJP he's mentioned twice, but those who posted his name there
don't know anything more about him.
Klaus was born May 20th 1933 in Billerbeck/Westfalia - Germany as the
son of Siegfried Eichenwald, called Fritz, and Hilde, née Hertz. His
sister Marion was born in May 1929 in Billerbeck, too. The family
escaped for La Paz - Bolivia in February 1940. Marion saw him last in
the early fifties in La Paz. She and her husband Juan would be very very
happy to get any information about Klaus. He has probably taken the name
"REICHER-KAMPUS" or so. Who ever met Klaus Reicher-Kampus, née
Eichenwald and can tell anything about his fate?

Dagmar Drovs
Billerbeck/Germany


Re: "missing" Chicago Waldheim grave #general

Mimi Katz <GeveretKatz@...>
 

Ruth,
There is also a section of Waldheim called Free Sons. Give them a call.

Mimi Katz, Chicago

I have called Jewish Waldheim, Forest Home, and Silverman & Weiss
with no luck. Supposedly S & W and jewish Waldheim (gates 9 and 11)
have looked at paper records too. I hope someone can help me find my
mystery woman!


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: "missing" Chicago Waldheim grave #general

Mimi Katz <GeveretKatz@...>
 

Ruth,
There is also a section of Waldheim called Free Sons. Give them a call.

Mimi Katz, Chicago

I have called Jewish Waldheim, Forest Home, and Silverman & Weiss
with no luck. Supposedly S & W and jewish Waldheim (gates 9 and 11)
have looked at paper records too. I hope someone can help me find my
mystery woman!


Re: A Jew from Romania in the Spanish American War ? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article < f4.4edf05eb.2f91341b@... >, < RavADS@... > wrote:

I am researching a rather strange story my father told me about my
grandfather: That my great-grandfather fought and died in the Spanish American
War.
Is there any reason to believe that a Jew >from Romania would somehow end up
in that war?
Why not? If the Jew had emigrated to the US and was a male in the right
age group, he might well have joined up. The army was not an exclusive
club.

Are there lists of those killed in the Spanish American war? On either
side?
On the American side, you might start with
< http://www.spanamwar.com/geneaol.htm >.
I don't know about the Spanish side.

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: A Jew from Romania in the Spanish American War ? #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

In article < f4.4edf05eb.2f91341b@... >, < RavADS@... > wrote:

I am researching a rather strange story my father told me about my
grandfather: That my great-grandfather fought and died in the Spanish American
War.
Is there any reason to believe that a Jew >from Romania would somehow end up
in that war?
Why not? If the Jew had emigrated to the US and was a male in the right
age group, he might well have joined up. The army was not an exclusive
club.

Are there lists of those killed in the Spanish American war? On either
side?
On the American side, you might start with
< http://www.spanamwar.com/geneaol.htm >.
I don't know about the Spanish side.

Robert Israel
israel@...
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Familianten, censuses and BMD records - differences #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I realise >from two postings in the last week [Jacob Michel & Jan Hellmann] that
there are some SIG members who are still confused re the various Jewish records
that are available in Bohemia and Moravia.

This is quite understandable, as we are all relative beginners in this area and
the more questions that are asked and answered, the better we shall all understand
the outstanding points. Language problems with our non-English speaking members
may also be a stumbling block and lead to confusion. I would like to continue
the debate as follows:

There are four main record types, namely:

- Familianten and "Mannschaftsbuecher"
- birth, marriage and death records [BMD]
- censuses
- tax and land registry

They are completely distinct and they should not be confused with each other.
They are all valuable in their own right and for a complete genealogical study
they should all, if possible, be cross-checked with each other.

1. Familianten: Jacob Michel [Israel] asked which is more accurate, BMD records
or Familianten?

The Familianten books can be thought of as "skeletal" family trees with almost
complete emphasis on the male line, especially the current Familiant and the
first-born son who inherits the Familianten licence. They are not detailed birth,
marriage or death records.

There are comments about the other sons, if relevant. Also, if the first-born son
dies or renounces his "Stelle" [Familianten position/rights] then the line
continues with the next son etc, etc.

In some cases, a number of sons have acquired "Stellen", through various clauses
and/or loopholes in the Familianten act - if so they will all be followed
through.

A normal family tree is drawn just like the traditional spreading Xmas tree -
with all the daughters included; but in the Familianten books, the tree goes
horizontally across a page, filling in various pre-headed columns - and then
onto another page, with the generations. Daughters are not listed.
You can see the headings on:

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/6691/loewy.html

2. Birth, marriage and death [BMD] records:

Birth records are completely different. They usually give full details of the
baby's name, sex, date of birth, mother, father, midwife, circumcision if a boy,
location and witnesses.

Marriage records are equally complex – and so are death records. They should
both have considerable detail on them [for example, on the marriage records:
names of bride and groom and their ages, parents’ full names and maiden names,
occupations, addresses etc].

These are documents which have a legal status and can be used as such. Thus, if
you look at BMD records, there are often hand-written dated annotations in the
margins, which may refer to requests for copies. They may have arisen when the
person is getting married or needs a certificate for some other purpose [i.e
Zustandigkeit/residency]. I have seen requests >from Vienna sent back to Kolin
or Grossbock, for example!
I very much doubt if you would be able to find such requests in a Familianten
record, which would probably be zealously guarded by Christian authorities.

The BMD records would have been under the safe-keeping of the local Jewish
community. You can see some of these detailed records on our own website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/czechguide.html

3. Census records: with specific reference to the 1793 census of the 16 Kreis
of Bohemia and Prague [still to be transcribed]. There are also Moravian censuses;
one in particular has been used to great effect recently to establish LOEFF
family links in Holleschau for SIG member, Harold Chipman [Switzerland].

Censuses are based on households and family heads; the occupation of the
breadwinner is listed. All Jews in Bohemia in 1793 were enumerated and recorded
under their newly-acquired names.

The Klattauer Kreis census of 1793 gives ages as well, but this is the exception.
There are a very few ages scattered throughout the other 15 Kreis and a few more
than usual in the Budweiser Kreis, especially in Kalladey [luckily for SIG members
Ruth Coman, Randy Schoenberg and Jane Reber].

Census records do, however, list for every household:
wives, daughters, widows, much-maligned mothers-in-law, servants, as well as
tutors and teachers, many of whom came >from Moravia and some >from Poland – what
a brainy lot they were!

If the family was very poor, there is often an indication there [e.g. lives on
charity]. Widows, widowers and twins are singled out too. There are sometimes
comments on the whereabouts of a member of the family living outside the family
circle and even, in some cases, mention of ownership of property and future
inheritance.

So there is a vast amount of data here and if only we could compare it with the
1783 census, we could glean even more re name changes.

The censuses give us a glimpse into everyday life over 200 years ago. Paul King
[Israel] gave us an erudite analysis of census-taking in the 1700s and its
sophistication.

4: Tax and land registry records - they could be of great value in establishing
who was living where and at what period. They require a separate discussion.

Moravian records: I ended my first lengthy posting [8 April 2005] on the
Familianten books with the plea: "And finally, what about Moravia? We need a
complete listing of books available and where they are located. That is one of
the biggest problems for Moravian SIG members today."

Charlie Roberts [UK] repeated this, with a special request: “Regarding Moravia
and my interest in Boskovice, does anyone know if Familianten records exist?”
Jan Hellmann's enthusiastic reply: "they are there" [in Prague] in fact referred
to the censuses and Bohemian records and he has now sent us a correction.

The Moravian problem has not really been fully resolved, but Julius Mueller
[Prague] has pointed us the right way and so has Claire Bruell in her article
on her trip to Moravia in the current issue of Avotaynu. Moravia, unfortunately
remains our "problem child". I am not even sure how many Familianten books
[known as "Mannschaftsbuecher" in Moravia] we have to locate. Are these these
the books we are looking for?

see http://thorin.adnc.com/~lynnd/gfaqf.html

Auspitz, Boskowitz, Bruenn, Datschitz, Gaya, Goeding,
Gr.Meseritsc h, Hohenstadt, Holleschau, Iglau,
Kremsier, Kromau, Littau, Maehrisch-Truebau, Mistek,
Neustadtl, Neutitschein, Nikolsburg, Olmuetz, Prerau,
Prossnitz, Roemerstadt, Schoenberg, Sternberg,
Trebitsch, Ungarisch-Brod, Ungarisch-Hradisch,
Walachisch-Meseritsch, Weisskirchen, Wischa u,Znaim.

see also paragraph in German on Moravia {Mahren} which
also points to uncertainty:

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet.html

Celia Male [UK]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Familianten, censuses and BMD records - differences #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I realise >from two postings in the last week [Jacob Michel & Jan Hellmann] that
there are some SIG members who are still confused re the various Jewish records
that are available in Bohemia and Moravia.

This is quite understandable, as we are all relative beginners in this area and
the more questions that are asked and answered, the better we shall all understand
the outstanding points. Language problems with our non-English speaking members
may also be a stumbling block and lead to confusion. I would like to continue
the debate as follows:

There are four main record types, namely:

- Familianten and "Mannschaftsbuecher"
- birth, marriage and death records [BMD]
- censuses
- tax and land registry

They are completely distinct and they should not be confused with each other.
They are all valuable in their own right and for a complete genealogical study
they should all, if possible, be cross-checked with each other.

1. Familianten: Jacob Michel [Israel] asked which is more accurate, BMD records
or Familianten?

The Familianten books can be thought of as "skeletal" family trees with almost
complete emphasis on the male line, especially the current Familiant and the
first-born son who inherits the Familianten licence. They are not detailed birth,
marriage or death records.

There are comments about the other sons, if relevant. Also, if the first-born son
dies or renounces his "Stelle" [Familianten position/rights] then the line
continues with the next son etc, etc.

In some cases, a number of sons have acquired "Stellen", through various clauses
and/or loopholes in the Familianten act - if so they will all be followed
through.

A normal family tree is drawn just like the traditional spreading Xmas tree -
with all the daughters included; but in the Familianten books, the tree goes
horizontally across a page, filling in various pre-headed columns - and then
onto another page, with the generations. Daughters are not listed.
You can see the headings on:

http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/6691/loewy.html

2. Birth, marriage and death [BMD] records:

Birth records are completely different. They usually give full details of the
baby's name, sex, date of birth, mother, father, midwife, circumcision if a boy,
location and witnesses.

Marriage records are equally complex – and so are death records. They should
both have considerable detail on them [for example, on the marriage records:
names of bride and groom and their ages, parents’ full names and maiden names,
occupations, addresses etc].

These are documents which have a legal status and can be used as such. Thus, if
you look at BMD records, there are often hand-written dated annotations in the
margins, which may refer to requests for copies. They may have arisen when the
person is getting married or needs a certificate for some other purpose [i.e
Zustandigkeit/residency]. I have seen requests >from Vienna sent back to Kolin
or Grossbock, for example!
I very much doubt if you would be able to find such requests in a Familianten
record, which would probably be zealously guarded by Christian authorities.

The BMD records would have been under the safe-keeping of the local Jewish
community. You can see some of these detailed records on our own website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/czechguide.html

3. Census records: with specific reference to the 1793 census of the 16 Kreis
of Bohemia and Prague [still to be transcribed]. There are also Moravian censuses;
one in particular has been used to great effect recently to establish LOEFF
family links in Holleschau for SIG member, Harold Chipman [Switzerland].

Censuses are based on households and family heads; the occupation of the
breadwinner is listed. All Jews in Bohemia in 1793 were enumerated and recorded
under their newly-acquired names.

The Klattauer Kreis census of 1793 gives ages as well, but this is the exception.
There are a very few ages scattered throughout the other 15 Kreis and a few more
than usual in the Budweiser Kreis, especially in Kalladey [luckily for SIG members
Ruth Coman, Randy Schoenberg and Jane Reber].

Census records do, however, list for every household:
wives, daughters, widows, much-maligned mothers-in-law, servants, as well as
tutors and teachers, many of whom came >from Moravia and some >from Poland – what
a brainy lot they were!

If the family was very poor, there is often an indication there [e.g. lives on
charity]. Widows, widowers and twins are singled out too. There are sometimes
comments on the whereabouts of a member of the family living outside the family
circle and even, in some cases, mention of ownership of property and future
inheritance.

So there is a vast amount of data here and if only we could compare it with the
1783 census, we could glean even more re name changes.

The censuses give us a glimpse into everyday life over 200 years ago. Paul King
[Israel] gave us an erudite analysis of census-taking in the 1700s and its
sophistication.

4: Tax and land registry records - they could be of great value in establishing
who was living where and at what period. They require a separate discussion.

Moravian records: I ended my first lengthy posting [8 April 2005] on the
Familianten books with the plea: "And finally, what about Moravia? We need a
complete listing of books available and where they are located. That is one of
the biggest problems for Moravian SIG members today."

Charlie Roberts [UK] repeated this, with a special request: “Regarding Moravia
and my interest in Boskovice, does anyone know if Familianten records exist?”
Jan Hellmann's enthusiastic reply: "they are there" [in Prague] in fact referred
to the censuses and Bohemian records and he has now sent us a correction.

The Moravian problem has not really been fully resolved, but Julius Mueller
[Prague] has pointed us the right way and so has Claire Bruell in her article
on her trip to Moravia in the current issue of Avotaynu. Moravia, unfortunately
remains our "problem child". I am not even sure how many Familianten books
[known as "Mannschaftsbuecher" in Moravia] we have to locate. Are these these
the books we are looking for?

see http://thorin.adnc.com/~lynnd/gfaqf.html

Auspitz, Boskowitz, Bruenn, Datschitz, Gaya, Goeding,
Gr.Meseritsc h, Hohenstadt, Holleschau, Iglau,
Kremsier, Kromau, Littau, Maehrisch-Truebau, Mistek,
Neustadtl, Neutitschein, Nikolsburg, Olmuetz, Prerau,
Prossnitz, Roemerstadt, Schoenberg, Sternberg,
Trebitsch, Ungarisch-Brod, Ungarisch-Hradisch,
Walachisch-Meseritsch, Weisskirchen, Wischa u,Znaim.

see also paragraph in German on Moravia {Mahren} which
also points to uncertainty:

http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SUD/sudet.html

Celia Male [UK]


Help with Russian Translation of BMD documents #general

Karen Pratt <kvpratt@...>
 

Jewishgeners,
I need help with the translation of some documents that I have acquired via
the PSA ordering. I have uploaded three documents through Viewmate which
will be found at: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

NITKA, Icek Death in 1897.jpg as file - VM5914
NITKA, Izrajel-GROS, Krasla Marr of 1871.jpg as file - VM5916
NITKA, Uszer Birth in 1875.jpg as file - VM5915

Uszer (Oscar) NITKA was my Grandpa.

Izrajel (Israel Laib) and Krasla (Kate) NITKA were Oscar's parents and thus
my great grandparents. These folk are all buried in Baron Hirsch Cem on
Staten Island, NYC.

Icek NITKA was the parent of Izrajel/Israel and thus my great great
grandfather.

I know that the town Burzenin is mentioned for Oscar and for Izrajel &
Krasla. And, the town of Lodz is for Icek NITKA.

Please respond privately: kvpratt@...

TIA for any help.
Karen Pratt-Miami, FL
Member of the PBCJGS

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct links to these images are:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5914
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5916
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5915


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help with Russian Translation of BMD documents #general

Karen Pratt <kvpratt@...>
 

Jewishgeners,
I need help with the translation of some documents that I have acquired via
the PSA ordering. I have uploaded three documents through Viewmate which
will be found at: http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

NITKA, Icek Death in 1897.jpg as file - VM5914
NITKA, Izrajel-GROS, Krasla Marr of 1871.jpg as file - VM5916
NITKA, Uszer Birth in 1875.jpg as file - VM5915

Uszer (Oscar) NITKA was my Grandpa.

Izrajel (Israel Laib) and Krasla (Kate) NITKA were Oscar's parents and thus
my great grandparents. These folk are all buried in Baron Hirsch Cem on
Staten Island, NYC.

Icek NITKA was the parent of Izrajel/Israel and thus my great great
grandfather.

I know that the town Burzenin is mentioned for Oscar and for Izrajel &
Krasla. And, the town of Lodz is for Icek NITKA.

Please respond privately: kvpratt@...

TIA for any help.
Karen Pratt-Miami, FL
Member of the PBCJGS

MODERATOR NOTE: The direct links to these images are:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5914
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5916
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5915


Who lived in the shetls? #general

John and Tereasa Lenius <jtlenius@...>
 

Perhaps this is a silly question, but, did only Jews live in the Shetls
found using the Shetl seeker? I know that my Great grandfather and all of
his brothers were born in a Nowa Wies (which one I don't know). I know
absolutely nothing about these villages. Also, I would like to thank all of
you who have answered my previous message. It is wonderful to know that
people are willing to help. Thank you again.
Tereasa Lenius
Tripoli, IA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Who lived in the shetls? #general

John and Tereasa Lenius <jtlenius@...>
 

Perhaps this is a silly question, but, did only Jews live in the Shetls
found using the Shetl seeker? I know that my Great grandfather and all of
his brothers were born in a Nowa Wies (which one I don't know). I know
absolutely nothing about these villages. Also, I would like to thank all of
you who have answered my previous message. It is wonderful to know that
people are willing to help. Thank you again.
Tereasa Lenius
Tripoli, IA


given name Shmerko #belarus

joyweave
 

Hi folks--

Can anyone tell me what the likely English-language version of the name
Shmerko (as found in Belarus) would be?

Thanks in advance.

Joy Weaver
Islip, NY USA

POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./
BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz/ Petritzki?, Deibach.


Belarus SIG #Belarus given name Shmerko #belarus

joyweave
 

Hi folks--

Can anyone tell me what the likely English-language version of the name
Shmerko (as found in Belarus) would be?

Thanks in advance.

Joy Weaver
Islip, NY USA

POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./
BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz/ Petritzki?, Deibach.


Re: Origins of people around the world #dna

ben.forman <ben.forman@...>
 

On 2005.04.14, Jeff Malka <malkajef@...> writes:

I heard on CNN about a project to determine the distant origins
of peoples around the world using DNA. Are you involved in this
world-wide project and would it provide useful additional data to
the genealogical DNA research you do?
Guys

Links for further info can be found here:

http://www5.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html

http://www.waittfoundation.org/past/Genographic.html

Ben Forman


DNA Research #DNA Re: Origins of people around the world #dna

ben.forman <ben.forman@...>
 

On 2005.04.14, Jeff Malka <malkajef@...> writes:

I heard on CNN about a project to determine the distant origins
of peoples around the world using DNA. Are you involved in this
world-wide project and would it provide useful additional data to
the genealogical DNA research you do?
Guys

Links for further info can be found here:

http://www5.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html

http://www.waittfoundation.org/past/Genographic.html

Ben Forman