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Re: the bialystok mamory book #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Yes, my hat is also off to Ada!!

Perhaps Yael is on to something. However, personally I would not be that
interested in seeing another memorial book produced. What I would like
to see is someone very scholarly research and write a definative work on
the development and history of Jewish civilization in the Podlasie
region particularly addressing the questions and issues that have become
important to address since the war. No doubt the Memorial books are
very valuable, but one has to understand what they are and what are
their limitations. To anyone who really wants to understand in a modern
academic sense this civilization and the issues that have been raised
about it's history and it's cataclysmic demise the memorial books can be
very frustrating.

Tilford Bartman

yael halamchi wrote:

Dear mark.

I want to thank u,ada and the all the others who did that great and
important work of bring the bialystok mamory book to the web when
everyone will be able to look in it thx u!!!!!!!!!!

another problem is the books is very old maybe its about time that
the bialystokers around the world will write new mamory book who suit
more to the young generation.

yours
yeal halacmi
isreal

resarch:strenfeld,finstion and boyarski >from bialystok


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: the bialystok mamory book #poland

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Yes, my hat is also off to Ada!!

Perhaps Yael is on to something. However, personally I would not be that
interested in seeing another memorial book produced. What I would like
to see is someone very scholarly research and write a definative work on
the development and history of Jewish civilization in the Podlasie
region particularly addressing the questions and issues that have become
important to address since the war. No doubt the Memorial books are
very valuable, but one has to understand what they are and what are
their limitations. To anyone who really wants to understand in a modern
academic sense this civilization and the issues that have been raised
about it's history and it's cataclysmic demise the memorial books can be
very frustrating.

Tilford Bartman

yael halamchi wrote:

Dear mark.

I want to thank u,ada and the all the others who did that great and
important work of bring the bialystok mamory book to the web when
everyone will be able to look in it thx u!!!!!!!!!!

another problem is the books is very old maybe its about time that
the bialystokers around the world will write new mamory book who suit
more to the young generation.

yours
yeal halacmi
isreal

resarch:strenfeld,finstion and boyarski >from bialystok


Re: How to get a book? #hungary

crochetnyc5@netzero.net <crochetnyc5@...>
 

I suggest you contact whomever is in charge of the library and see what his/her
response is. A librarian is an employee who may not have the authorization to
make a sale.

Norma Yaskoir


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to get a book? #general

crochetnyc5@netzero.net <crochetnyc5@...>
 

I suggest you contact whomever is in charge of the library and see what his/her
response is. A librarian is an employee who may not have the authorization to
make a sale.

Norma Yaskoir


ROSENTHAL and HODES families #general

Muriel C. Sanders
 

I am looking for members of a family named ROSENTHAL, and descendants
with the names of HORODAS, GORDON, and CHUGERMAN. As always, I look
forward to responses >from the wonderful Genners. Please reply
directly. Thank you.

Muriel Cantor Sanders, musanders@atlanticbb.net

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROSENTHAL and HODES families #general

Muriel C. Sanders
 

I am looking for members of a family named ROSENTHAL, and descendants
with the names of HORODAS, GORDON, and CHUGERMAN. As always, I look
forward to responses >from the wonderful Genners. Please reply
directly. Thank you.

Muriel Cantor Sanders, musanders@atlanticbb.net

MODERATOR NOTE: To increase your chances of success, don't forget
to list your surnames of interest in the JewishGen Family Finder,
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/


Researcher in Romania and Republic of Moldova #general

Leibowitz <frank.leibowitz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am new to this group. I am researching for my paternal family
LEIBOWITZ >from Pitesti and Bucharest, and RABINOVICI/TZ >from the
Republic of Moldova.

I am interested in hiring a researcher there but I would like to hear
from Genners who have experience with National Archives (in Bucharest
or Chisinau) and researchers in these country.

Please email me directly,

I thank you in advance for your help,

F. LEIBOWITZ
Paris
RESEARCHING LEIBOWITZ >from Pitesti & Bucharest/ RABINOVICI/TZ >from
Republic of Moldova & Bucharest

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researcher in Romania and Republic of Moldova #general

Leibowitz <frank.leibowitz@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am new to this group. I am researching for my paternal family
LEIBOWITZ >from Pitesti and Bucharest, and RABINOVICI/TZ >from the
Republic of Moldova.

I am interested in hiring a researcher there but I would like to hear
from Genners who have experience with National Archives (in Bucharest
or Chisinau) and researchers in these country.

Please email me directly,

I thank you in advance for your help,

F. LEIBOWITZ
Paris
RESEARCHING LEIBOWITZ >from Pitesti & Bucharest/ RABINOVICI/TZ >from
Republic of Moldova & Bucharest

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's policy is that researchers
may not be recommended by name, and that any information
regarding researchers should be sent privately.


Photography in shtetls #general

Neiel and Joan Baronberg <njbaron@...>
 

Dear genners,
When did photography come into use in rural shtetls? Did most people
have to go to larger towns to have their photo taken? Were there traveling
photographers? Beginning in what year were people in a shtetl in Galicia
likely to have their photo taken?

Joan Baronberg, Denver, CO
FRIEDMAN, WEISSER, MESTER
Suchostaw, Slobodka bei Strusov, Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Photography in shtetls #general

Neiel and Joan Baronberg <njbaron@...>
 

Dear genners,
When did photography come into use in rural shtetls? Did most people
have to go to larger towns to have their photo taken? Were there traveling
photographers? Beginning in what year were people in a shtetl in Galicia
likely to have their photo taken?

Joan Baronberg, Denver, CO
FRIEDMAN, WEISSER, MESTER
Suchostaw, Slobodka bei Strusov, Ukraine


Re: British-Jewish genealogy - addendum #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

Jews were expelled in 1290 - hence the title of this document
http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/pre-1290/list_alpha.htm "Jewish communities
prior to 1290"


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: British-Jewish genealogy - addendum #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

Jews were expelled in 1290 - hence the title of this document
http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/pre-1290/list_alpha.htm "Jewish communities
prior to 1290"


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Seeking Family of YARCHOVER, SEGAL, STARASOLER of Zbarazh #general

Carole Feinberg
 

Dear Friends,

In 1957, Chana YARCHOVER/IARCHOVER/JARCHOVER submitted
two Pages of Testimony for cousin, Etyl SEGAL, nee
ZOMERFLEK, and mother, Niesia STARASOLER, nee
ZOMERFLEK, all >from Zbarazh. Nearest large
city--Tarnopol.

At that time, Chana's address was HaRoeh XX, Ramat
Gan, Israel. Thirty-six years later, another
YARCHOVER/IARCHOVER/JARCHOVER, Eliezer's, address was
Lehi XX, Ramat Gan. The trail then ends for this
family.

If you have knowledge of Chana, Eliezer, Etyl SEGAL or
Niesia STARASOLER's family please contact me
privately. I am researching my deceased grandmother,
Chaitsche, nee SOMERFLECK's, family.

Best wishes,

Carole Glick Feinberg
Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Researching SOMERFLECK, KATZ, MALKISCHER/Zbaraz,
Kujdance, Romanowe Siolo (near Tarnopol)

MODERATOR NOTE: House numbers were replaced by
the moderator with X's, in order to protect the
privacy of the people mentioned in the message.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Family of YARCHOVER, SEGAL, STARASOLER of Zbarazh #general

Carole Feinberg
 

Dear Friends,

In 1957, Chana YARCHOVER/IARCHOVER/JARCHOVER submitted
two Pages of Testimony for cousin, Etyl SEGAL, nee
ZOMERFLEK, and mother, Niesia STARASOLER, nee
ZOMERFLEK, all >from Zbarazh. Nearest large
city--Tarnopol.

At that time, Chana's address was HaRoeh XX, Ramat
Gan, Israel. Thirty-six years later, another
YARCHOVER/IARCHOVER/JARCHOVER, Eliezer's, address was
Lehi XX, Ramat Gan. The trail then ends for this
family.

If you have knowledge of Chana, Eliezer, Etyl SEGAL or
Niesia STARASOLER's family please contact me
privately. I am researching my deceased grandmother,
Chaitsche, nee SOMERFLECK's, family.

Best wishes,

Carole Glick Feinberg
Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Researching SOMERFLECK, KATZ, MALKISCHER/Zbaraz,
Kujdance, Romanowe Siolo (near Tarnopol)

MODERATOR NOTE: House numbers were replaced by
the moderator with X's, in order to protect the
privacy of the people mentioned in the message.


Re: British-Jewish genealogy #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

< yisraelasper@comcast.net > wrote:

Jews did "arrive" in the Americas at least in the days of Bar Kochva.
There are
Bar Kochva coins in the Americas and even a stone saying for the land of
Judah.
http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/barkokhb.htm says that these coins
were identified as modern replicas by a coin expert at the Israel Museum in
Jerusalem.

Similarly Romans "arrived" in the Americas too a Roman bust was discovered
in Mexico.
See http://andrewcollins.com/page/articles/romanbust.htm

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: British-Jewish genealogy #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

< yisraelasper@comcast.net > wrote:

Jews did "arrive" in the Americas at least in the days of Bar Kochva.
There are
Bar Kochva coins in the Americas and even a stone saying for the land of
Judah.
http://www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/barkokhb.htm says that these coins
were identified as modern replicas by a coin expert at the Israel Museum in
Jerusalem.

Similarly Romans "arrived" in the Americas too a Roman bust was discovered
in Mexico.
See http://andrewcollins.com/page/articles/romanbust.htm

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Re: British-Jewish genealogy #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Evertjan." < exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net > wrote on 16 jul 2005 in
soc.genealogy.jewish:

The American Jewish Archives website has a great genealogical resource
on the first Jewish American families.

Does anyone know if their is something similar for British Jewry?
The first Jewish families arived in Britain perhaps with the Phoenicians,
far more tha 2000 years ago, as Simon Goulden of the United Synagogue
writes here:

Daf Hashavua 23/9/2000 < http://tinyurl.com/7ts5n >

Or else they surely came with the Roman conquest, but even if they did
arrive with William the conqueror as late as 1066, your expectation of
great genealogical resources is not very reasonable. ;-}
Any suggestion in Simon Goulden's article is speculation - he is not a
historian.

It is only with the arrival of William Conqueror that there is a definite
record of rabbis and therefore an organised Jewish community.

See, for instance, http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/pre-1290/list_alpha.htm
"Jewish communities prior to 1290"

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: British-Jewish genealogy #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Evertjan." < exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net > wrote on 16 jul 2005 in
soc.genealogy.jewish:

The American Jewish Archives website has a great genealogical resource
on the first Jewish American families.

Does anyone know if their is something similar for British Jewry?
The first Jewish families arived in Britain perhaps with the Phoenicians,
far more tha 2000 years ago, as Simon Goulden of the United Synagogue
writes here:

Daf Hashavua 23/9/2000 < http://tinyurl.com/7ts5n >

Or else they surely came with the Roman conquest, but even if they did
arrive with William the conqueror as late as 1066, your expectation of
great genealogical resources is not very reasonable. ;-}
Any suggestion in Simon Goulden's article is speculation - he is not a
historian.

It is only with the arrival of William Conqueror that there is a definite
record of rabbis and therefore an organised Jewish community.

See, for instance, http://www.jewishgen.org/jcr-uk/pre-1290/list_alpha.htm
"Jewish communities prior to 1290"

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Re: How to get a book? #hungary

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"KSL" < resume@lipworth.com.au > wrote

Stan

Libraries *do* sell books. Culling is a common practice in almost every
library in the world.

A library is not a black-hole into which books get sucked never to emerge
again.

They are dynamic repositories, that buy sell and swop books on a regular
basis.

Of course, there are certain books and documents that a library will *never*
part with, but for a book of the type I understand Tom's uncle's book to be,
there is a good chance it will be culled some day.
This is the Retention and Disposal Policy of the State Library of New South
Wales, Australia.

http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/policies/pdf/retentiondisposalpolicy.pdf

According to this, the NSW Library permanently retains material that has
been accessioned to it.
The exceptions to this are: 1 Missing items, 2 Faulty or damaged items, 3
Items not in a suitable condition for lending, 4 Items in poor and
deteriorating condition, 5 Items outside or marginal to the Library's
Development Policy, 7 Incomplete Multi-part Works, 8 Superceded Material, 9
Duplicates, 10 Items Accessioned in Error.

I suggest that you actually refer to the webpage before querying the above
which is just a summary.

I might add that as a recent UK Freedom of Information Officer, that every
public organisation all of which are bound by the FoI Act should have a
Retention and Disposal Schedule. They cannot arbitrarily get rid of any
document but must have a Schedule governing the disposal of documents. If a
request is made for a document, they must know whether they still have the
document and ideally be able to show that there is some Policy for releasing
or disposing of any document.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to get a book? #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"KSL" < resume@lipworth.com.au > wrote

Stan

Libraries *do* sell books. Culling is a common practice in almost every
library in the world.

A library is not a black-hole into which books get sucked never to emerge
again.

They are dynamic repositories, that buy sell and swop books on a regular
basis.

Of course, there are certain books and documents that a library will *never*
part with, but for a book of the type I understand Tom's uncle's book to be,
there is a good chance it will be culled some day.
This is the Retention and Disposal Policy of the State Library of New South
Wales, Australia.

http://www.sl.nsw.gov.au/policies/pdf/retentiondisposalpolicy.pdf

According to this, the NSW Library permanently retains material that has
been accessioned to it.
The exceptions to this are: 1 Missing items, 2 Faulty or damaged items, 3
Items not in a suitable condition for lending, 4 Items in poor and
deteriorating condition, 5 Items outside or marginal to the Library's
Development Policy, 7 Incomplete Multi-part Works, 8 Superceded Material, 9
Duplicates, 10 Items Accessioned in Error.

I suggest that you actually refer to the webpage before querying the above
which is just a summary.

I might add that as a recent UK Freedom of Information Officer, that every
public organisation all of which are bound by the FoI Act should have a
Retention and Disposal Schedule. They cannot arbitrarily get rid of any
document but must have a Schedule governing the disposal of documents. If a
request is made for a document, they must know whether they still have the
document and ideally be able to show that there is some Policy for releasing
or disposing of any document.


--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)