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King David Hotel Operation #general

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

Re the underneath question posed by Michael Baum.
Firstly, I suggest you read "The Life and Times of
Menachem Begin" - Chapter 15 deals with the topic
of the King David Hotel Operation, although no names
of people are actually mentioned..

For that matter, I suggest you contact the Begin Heritage Center
in Jerusalem . Their e:mail is:
offices@begincenter.org.il

After making a phone call I was told that if you write
to the above e-mail address your query will be
forwarded to the correct department and they
will do their utmost to provide any answers you
require. When writing please supply exact information
concerning your relative, i.e. full name and any other
details you may have in order for his name to be traced.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il



Subject: King David Hotel
From: PaullieMike@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:57:34 EDT
X-Message-Number: 14

I came across a curious finding. One my relatives was directly involved
in the Irgun bombing of the King David Hotel in july 1946. Apparently, he was
part of the group that entered the basement of the hotel and placed the
explosives. I do not know whatever happened to him. He was a German Jew
and I believe was second in command of that operation.

Aside >from the Etzel (Irgun) library web site and Thurston Clarke's book
"By Blood and Fire," and Menachem Begin's own book, does anyone know of any
other specific english document, book or source that offers great detail about
those involved in the King David incident?

Thanks.
Michael Baum,
Forest Hills, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen King David Hotel Operation #general

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

Re the underneath question posed by Michael Baum.
Firstly, I suggest you read "The Life and Times of
Menachem Begin" - Chapter 15 deals with the topic
of the King David Hotel Operation, although no names
of people are actually mentioned..

For that matter, I suggest you contact the Begin Heritage Center
in Jerusalem . Their e:mail is:
offices@begincenter.org.il

After making a phone call I was told that if you write
to the above e-mail address your query will be
forwarded to the correct department and they
will do their utmost to provide any answers you
require. When writing please supply exact information
concerning your relative, i.e. full name and any other
details you may have in order for his name to be traced.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il



Subject: King David Hotel
From: PaullieMike@aol.com
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:57:34 EDT
X-Message-Number: 14

I came across a curious finding. One my relatives was directly involved
in the Irgun bombing of the King David Hotel in july 1946. Apparently, he was
part of the group that entered the basement of the hotel and placed the
explosives. I do not know whatever happened to him. He was a German Jew
and I believe was second in command of that operation.

Aside >from the Etzel (Irgun) library web site and Thurston Clarke's book
"By Blood and Fire," and Menachem Begin's own book, does anyone know of any
other specific english document, book or source that offers great detail about
those involved in the King David incident?

Thanks.
Michael Baum,
Forest Hills, NY


Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum #general

Beverly Shulster <gettingbttr@...>
 

Dave Schwartz wrote:

Over the years, I have >from time to time answered
requests for information on this forum. In all but
one instance, I never heard back >from the party...not
even a simple thank you.
<snip>
This has not been a single incident but rather the
rule than the exception. I wonder how many others
have had this experience and like me have vowed never
to respond again?

Dave Schwartz
Wimberley, Texas
---
It has happened to me more than once and more than twice, but unlike
you I've received enough feedback to keep helping when I can. Don't
give up on people -- it only makes you feel bad.

Bev Shulster
Yehud, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum #general

Beverly Shulster <gettingbttr@...>
 

Dave Schwartz wrote:

Over the years, I have >from time to time answered
requests for information on this forum. In all but
one instance, I never heard back >from the party...not
even a simple thank you.
<snip>
This has not been a single incident but rather the
rule than the exception. I wonder how many others
have had this experience and like me have vowed never
to respond again?

Dave Schwartz
Wimberley, Texas
---
It has happened to me more than once and more than twice, but unlike
you I've received enough feedback to keep helping when I can. Don't
give up on people -- it only makes you feel bad.

Bev Shulster
Yehud, Israel


Visit to Lviv [Subject supplied by Moderator] #galicia

roe kard
 

Dear Gesher Galicia-nicks:
I am in Lvov for another week walking the places my family walked - in Lvov,
Rawa Ruska, Belz, Potylycz, Wulka Maziowecki, Nemirow & Magirow (forgive
spelling - am in Internet cafe without notes). According to RTR's cemetary
listing there is a cemetary in Rawa with 50 - 100 stones and fence and gate(or
some decent sized amount) and similarly in Belz. We could only find a very few
stones in Rawa so far and my guide believes that there is no large cemetary as
is listed on that list as well. Does nayone know anything about this? Thank
you. B'shalom.

Karen Roekard

PS This trip has been amazing.
PPS The person who wrote about teh Archives of the Jewish People is right - they
have treasures but no desire to market and limited, if any, belief in the value
of their material for geneological research. At least that is what I was told.
I just hhand-copies >from the original, a list of inhabitants of Rawa Ruska in
1812. The microfilm of this is in Israel.

[MODERATOR NOTE: off topic note snipped]


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Visit to Lviv [Subject supplied by Moderator] #galicia

roe kard
 

Dear Gesher Galicia-nicks:
I am in Lvov for another week walking the places my family walked - in Lvov,
Rawa Ruska, Belz, Potylycz, Wulka Maziowecki, Nemirow & Magirow (forgive
spelling - am in Internet cafe without notes). According to RTR's cemetary
listing there is a cemetary in Rawa with 50 - 100 stones and fence and gate(or
some decent sized amount) and similarly in Belz. We could only find a very few
stones in Rawa so far and my guide believes that there is no large cemetary as
is listed on that list as well. Does nayone know anything about this? Thank
you. B'shalom.

Karen Roekard

PS This trip has been amazing.
PPS The person who wrote about teh Archives of the Jewish People is right - they
have treasures but no desire to market and limited, if any, belief in the value
of their material for geneological research. At least that is what I was told.
I just hhand-copies >from the original, a list of inhabitants of Rawa Ruska in
1812. The microfilm of this is in Israel.

[MODERATOR NOTE: off topic note snipped]


Businesses in BRZESKO-1929 #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Galicianers,
Just received >from a Google alert a list of businesses
in Brzesko extracted >from the 1929 Poland Business
Directory.
Though it is in Polish it is arranged alphabetically
according to surnames.Very helpful.
http://www.brzesko.ws/_brzesko/documents/historia/biznesy/biznesy_1929.asp
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Businesses in BRZESKO-1929 #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Galicianers,
Just received >from a Google alert a list of businesses
in Brzesko extracted >from the 1929 Poland Business
Directory.
Though it is in Polish it is arranged alphabetically
according to surnames.Very helpful.
http://www.brzesko.ws/_brzesko/documents/historia/biznesy/biznesy_1929.asp
Jacob Rosen
Jerusalem


"Jewish Families in Galicia" - Conversions #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

I recently received a fascinating file, entitled: “Judische Familien In
Galizien” (Jewish Families in Galicia), >from Manfred Daum who works with
“Galizien German Descendants” -- a special interest group devoted to family
history research of the German descendants >from the Austrian province of
Galicia. (http://www.galiziengermandescendants.org/)

This document is a compilation of Jewish men, women and entire families,
either born in or residing at some point in Galicia, who converted to
Christianity: Greek or Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical/Evangelical
Reformed. In some cases these conversions were a results of “mixed
marriages,” but in others, entire Jewish families converted. There are many
interrelated families.

Mr. Daum’s sources were primarily church records >from which he extracted
this information, using parish registers, christening documents, church
marriage and death records, and some personal family notes. The dates of
these events run >from the late 1700s unti 1941, and include a few people who
were murdered in the concentration camps. Detailed occupations are listed,
house numbers, name variations, the maiden names of the women, movement >from
village to village over time, and other personal details. The towns
represented cover all of Galicia, including Kolomea, Lvov, Krakow,
Stanislau, Tarnopol, Tarnow, Drohobycz, Brody, Rzeszow, Stryj, Kamionka
Strumilowa, Tarnow, Brzezany, and then expand to Ukraine, Germany and other
countries where these people eventually settled or had moved from.

Although there are only 72 entries, most listings contain information on
several family members, and the intriguing possibility exists that some
researchers might discover that missing link in a family tree, due to a
conversion long ago.

Although written in German, Mr. Daum has provided a legend—standard in
European genealogical research--that makes deciphering the contents somewhat
easy to follow once you get the hang of it. Below are some very loose
translations to give you a sampling of the details:

MOSES KAMMERMAN, Jew, died in 1896 in Ugartsbert (Wypucki) House Number 22,
married in 1870 to KIDEL KAMMERMAN, Jew, who died in 1914 in Ugartsberg,
buried in Drohobycz,,in 1896. Their daughters:
CHAJE (KAMMERMAN) FLACHS, B. 1875 d. 1914
AMALIE (KAMMERMAN) SOBEL, b. 1878 d. 1910
REGINA (KAMMERMAN) GOLDSTEIN, b. 1880, d. 1910
REBECKA (KAMMERMAN) POLLAK b. 1882

NUSEN SCHEIB, Jew, leasing a pub/restaurant in Josefsberg (Korosnica),
married to LIEBE KESTENBLATT SCHEIB, Jew, and their son, CHAIM SCHEIB, born
1869 in Josefsberg, Jew, converted to Evangelical Reformed Church in 1869.

FAYTISCH (FABIAN) OCHSENHAUER, Jew, Butcher in Kamionka Strumilowa, wife,
SARA (Susanna), Jew, and their daughter, Antonina (Tauba) OCHSENHAUER b.
1799 (first married to Mr. GEIL (KEIL), a Jew, who died in 1820, then
married to JOHANNES BAPTISTA HEIM, Cath., who was a special guard for the
(Hohenzollern) royal family in Kamionka Strumilowa >from 1819-1822. She
converted to Roman Catholicism in 1820.

LEO & BETTI FINKLER, and son, Emanuel, converted to the Lutheran religion,
in Lemberg, Oct. 22, 1867.

EMANUEL FINKLER, Jew, >from Czernovitz, married to DIORRI GOLDENTHAL, born in
Brzezany, in 1849. In 1867 ran a pub in the Lemberg-Czernowitzer Train
Station in Lemberg. Daughter: HEDWIG (Betti) FINKLER b. 1849 in
Czernowitz, baptized in 1867 in Lemberg.

ROSALIA SCHWARZ, Jew, born in Jaroslau, 1824, died in House number 98 in
Stryj, converted to Roman Catholicism and baptized in 1847

RACHMIL FLACHS, Jew, died in 1914 in Ugartsberg (Wypucki) House Number 14,
was a cattle salesman in Ugartsberg. Married in 1890 to CHAJE KAMMERMAN,
Jew, born in Ugartsberg in 1875, died in 1914 in House number 14. Children:
ABRAHAM, b. 1890, LAJA, b. 1894- married. GRAF, SCHAINDL, b,1897,
WILHELMINE B. 1898

JOSEF CUZEK, Roman Catholic, b. 1859 in Krakow, married to HELEN MARIANNA
GRUNBERG, Jew, born 1856 in Czrnelica, who was baptized in Lemberg, June 16,
1883.

WILHELM RASCH, Jew, lawyer in Kolomea, married to ADELHEID (PINELES )
RASCH, Jew, and Children: ERNESTINA, b. 1860, ROBERTA, b. 1862, LEONIA, B.
1866, converted to Roman Catholicism in 1880.

SAMUEL ROSENTHAL, Jew, Salesman in Brody, married in 1820 to DEBORAH REIS,
Jew, and their daughter, ERNESTINE ADELE ROSENTHAL (married to Steinsberg)
born in 1820, baptized in Lemberg in 1842.

MORITZ ELIAS ZINNER, Jew, born in 1820 in Stanislau, Scenery Hanger in a
theater in Lemberg, baptized in 1842 in Lemberg.

PHILLIP KOHLI, Lutheran, murdered 1941 in a concentration camp in
Sapiezanka, married to HELEN EHRLICHER KOHLI, Jew, children: EDMUND, SOPHIE,
& CHRSTINE KOHLI. The Notes read: “Because he didn’t want to get a divorce
from his Jewish wife.”
Here is the list of the surnames contained in this file:

BAUER/BERCK/ BERNACKI//BERNSTEIN/BORONSTEIN/CUZEK/DIETRICH/ EHRLICHER/
EICHHOLZ /FINKLER//FISCHER/
FORYBER/FÜRST/FLACHS/FRANK//GEIL/GLASER/GOLDENTHAL/GOLDSTEIN/GRAF/
GRÜNBERG /GUTTMANN/ GOLDENTHAL / HAFER/ HAPERIN/HAUER/HEIM HOLPERING/
HUVEN/ KAMMERMANN KAMMERMANN /KATZ/ KESTENBLATT/ KLIPPEL, KOHMANN, KOPACZ/
/KOSTICZ/ KÖHLI/LICHTENSTADT/ LIFSCHÜTZ/LIPINER, LÖWENBERG/ /MAYER
MIKULAS/MOLDAUER/OCHSENHAUER/PASSOWER/PATIN/POLLAK/PINELES/RASCH/RECHEN/REIS
/ROSENBERG/ROSENTHAL/ RUPP/ SACHS/ SANTRUCEK/SAX /SCHEIB/
SCHWARZ/SCHULMAN/SELVER /SENZER/SOBEL/ SPIEGEL/
SPINDLER/STEINER/STEIN/STEINSBERG/STERN/STORCH/
UNTERSCHÜTZ/WACHSMANN/WITTLIN/ZADORA/ZAUSNER/ZIELINSKI/ZINNER.

Although Gesher Galicia hopes to make this information available on their
website at some point in the future, if you are interested in receiving the
30 page PDF file >from me now, please contact me privately. Certainly, this
document shows that details about the Jews of Galicia are present in church
records, and even though these deal solely with conversions they may prove
helpful to a few researchers. If you can provide insights into the nature
or reason for these conversions, or know of personal stories handed down by
families involving conversions, please feel free to share that with the
group.

Thanks to Manfred Daum for so generously agreeing to share the fruits of his
labor with us.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia "Jewish Families in Galicia" - Conversions #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

I recently received a fascinating file, entitled: “Judische Familien In
Galizien” (Jewish Families in Galicia), >from Manfred Daum who works with
“Galizien German Descendants” -- a special interest group devoted to family
history research of the German descendants >from the Austrian province of
Galicia. (http://www.galiziengermandescendants.org/)

This document is a compilation of Jewish men, women and entire families,
either born in or residing at some point in Galicia, who converted to
Christianity: Greek or Roman Catholic, Lutheran, Evangelical/Evangelical
Reformed. In some cases these conversions were a results of “mixed
marriages,” but in others, entire Jewish families converted. There are many
interrelated families.

Mr. Daum’s sources were primarily church records >from which he extracted
this information, using parish registers, christening documents, church
marriage and death records, and some personal family notes. The dates of
these events run >from the late 1700s unti 1941, and include a few people who
were murdered in the concentration camps. Detailed occupations are listed,
house numbers, name variations, the maiden names of the women, movement >from
village to village over time, and other personal details. The towns
represented cover all of Galicia, including Kolomea, Lvov, Krakow,
Stanislau, Tarnopol, Tarnow, Drohobycz, Brody, Rzeszow, Stryj, Kamionka
Strumilowa, Tarnow, Brzezany, and then expand to Ukraine, Germany and other
countries where these people eventually settled or had moved from.

Although there are only 72 entries, most listings contain information on
several family members, and the intriguing possibility exists that some
researchers might discover that missing link in a family tree, due to a
conversion long ago.

Although written in German, Mr. Daum has provided a legend—standard in
European genealogical research--that makes deciphering the contents somewhat
easy to follow once you get the hang of it. Below are some very loose
translations to give you a sampling of the details:

MOSES KAMMERMAN, Jew, died in 1896 in Ugartsbert (Wypucki) House Number 22,
married in 1870 to KIDEL KAMMERMAN, Jew, who died in 1914 in Ugartsberg,
buried in Drohobycz,,in 1896. Their daughters:
CHAJE (KAMMERMAN) FLACHS, B. 1875 d. 1914
AMALIE (KAMMERMAN) SOBEL, b. 1878 d. 1910
REGINA (KAMMERMAN) GOLDSTEIN, b. 1880, d. 1910
REBECKA (KAMMERMAN) POLLAK b. 1882

NUSEN SCHEIB, Jew, leasing a pub/restaurant in Josefsberg (Korosnica),
married to LIEBE KESTENBLATT SCHEIB, Jew, and their son, CHAIM SCHEIB, born
1869 in Josefsberg, Jew, converted to Evangelical Reformed Church in 1869.

FAYTISCH (FABIAN) OCHSENHAUER, Jew, Butcher in Kamionka Strumilowa, wife,
SARA (Susanna), Jew, and their daughter, Antonina (Tauba) OCHSENHAUER b.
1799 (first married to Mr. GEIL (KEIL), a Jew, who died in 1820, then
married to JOHANNES BAPTISTA HEIM, Cath., who was a special guard for the
(Hohenzollern) royal family in Kamionka Strumilowa >from 1819-1822. She
converted to Roman Catholicism in 1820.

LEO & BETTI FINKLER, and son, Emanuel, converted to the Lutheran religion,
in Lemberg, Oct. 22, 1867.

EMANUEL FINKLER, Jew, >from Czernovitz, married to DIORRI GOLDENTHAL, born in
Brzezany, in 1849. In 1867 ran a pub in the Lemberg-Czernowitzer Train
Station in Lemberg. Daughter: HEDWIG (Betti) FINKLER b. 1849 in
Czernowitz, baptized in 1867 in Lemberg.

ROSALIA SCHWARZ, Jew, born in Jaroslau, 1824, died in House number 98 in
Stryj, converted to Roman Catholicism and baptized in 1847

RACHMIL FLACHS, Jew, died in 1914 in Ugartsberg (Wypucki) House Number 14,
was a cattle salesman in Ugartsberg. Married in 1890 to CHAJE KAMMERMAN,
Jew, born in Ugartsberg in 1875, died in 1914 in House number 14. Children:
ABRAHAM, b. 1890, LAJA, b. 1894- married. GRAF, SCHAINDL, b,1897,
WILHELMINE B. 1898

JOSEF CUZEK, Roman Catholic, b. 1859 in Krakow, married to HELEN MARIANNA
GRUNBERG, Jew, born 1856 in Czrnelica, who was baptized in Lemberg, June 16,
1883.

WILHELM RASCH, Jew, lawyer in Kolomea, married to ADELHEID (PINELES )
RASCH, Jew, and Children: ERNESTINA, b. 1860, ROBERTA, b. 1862, LEONIA, B.
1866, converted to Roman Catholicism in 1880.

SAMUEL ROSENTHAL, Jew, Salesman in Brody, married in 1820 to DEBORAH REIS,
Jew, and their daughter, ERNESTINE ADELE ROSENTHAL (married to Steinsberg)
born in 1820, baptized in Lemberg in 1842.

MORITZ ELIAS ZINNER, Jew, born in 1820 in Stanislau, Scenery Hanger in a
theater in Lemberg, baptized in 1842 in Lemberg.

PHILLIP KOHLI, Lutheran, murdered 1941 in a concentration camp in
Sapiezanka, married to HELEN EHRLICHER KOHLI, Jew, children: EDMUND, SOPHIE,
& CHRSTINE KOHLI. The Notes read: “Because he didn’t want to get a divorce
from his Jewish wife.”
Here is the list of the surnames contained in this file:

BAUER/BERCK/ BERNACKI//BERNSTEIN/BORONSTEIN/CUZEK/DIETRICH/ EHRLICHER/
EICHHOLZ /FINKLER//FISCHER/
FORYBER/FÜRST/FLACHS/FRANK//GEIL/GLASER/GOLDENTHAL/GOLDSTEIN/GRAF/
GRÜNBERG /GUTTMANN/ GOLDENTHAL / HAFER/ HAPERIN/HAUER/HEIM HOLPERING/
HUVEN/ KAMMERMANN KAMMERMANN /KATZ/ KESTENBLATT/ KLIPPEL, KOHMANN, KOPACZ/
/KOSTICZ/ KÖHLI/LICHTENSTADT/ LIFSCHÜTZ/LIPINER, LÖWENBERG/ /MAYER
MIKULAS/MOLDAUER/OCHSENHAUER/PASSOWER/PATIN/POLLAK/PINELES/RASCH/RECHEN/REIS
/ROSENBERG/ROSENTHAL/ RUPP/ SACHS/ SANTRUCEK/SAX /SCHEIB/
SCHWARZ/SCHULMAN/SELVER /SENZER/SOBEL/ SPIEGEL/
SPINDLER/STEINER/STEIN/STEINSBERG/STERN/STORCH/
UNTERSCHÜTZ/WACHSMANN/WITTLIN/ZADORA/ZAUSNER/ZIELINSKI/ZINNER.

Although Gesher Galicia hopes to make this information available on their
website at some point in the future, if you are interested in receiving the
30 page PDF file >from me now, please contact me privately. Certainly, this
document shows that details about the Jews of Galicia are present in church
records, and even though these deal solely with conversions they may prove
helpful to a few researchers. If you can provide insights into the nature
or reason for these conversions, or know of personal stories handed down by
families involving conversions, please feel free to share that with the
group.

Thanks to Manfred Daum for so generously agreeing to share the fruits of his
labor with us.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Researching PLATTEIS/PLATTUS from Alsace #germany

James R. Platt <jrplatt@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for several
years and consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy
research.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of various
grandparents and great grandparents >from Lithuania (via JewishGen
LitvakSIG), but recently was told by family members that they believed some
family members came >from Alsace in the mid 1800s. Unfortunately, they did
not have the name of any village or shtetl, which may make this research
impossible.

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who may be familiar with
PLATTEIS / PLATTUS. Thank you.

James Platt New York, NY <jrplatt@mindspring.com>


German SIG #Germany Researching PLATTEIS/PLATTUS from Alsace #germany

James R. Platt <jrplatt@...>
 

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for several
years and consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy
research.

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of various
grandparents and great grandparents >from Lithuania (via JewishGen
LitvakSIG), but recently was told by family members that they believed some
family members came >from Alsace in the mid 1800s. Unfortunately, they did
not have the name of any village or shtetl, which may make this research
impossible.

I would appreciate hearing >from anyone who may be familiar with
PLATTEIS / PLATTUS. Thank you.

James Platt New York, NY <jrplatt@mindspring.com>


BROWN- Hampshire - New Member: Am I Jewish? FAQ #unitedkingdom

Richard Cooper <ricooper@...>
 

S.Brown raises a question that I am often asked.
In order to verify Jewish ancestry you need to trace your family back
in the Index of Births & Marriages at the Family Records Centre
generation by generation without skipping until you come to an ancestral
couple who were married 'according to the rites of the Jewish religion'.
However an ancestral birth in Eastern Europe
would also be a positive indicator.
Cross-reference with the decennial censuses >from 1841 onwards:
this will give you more family members,their ages & birthplaces.
If you get back to 1837 without any evidence of Jewishness,
things become more difficult, though not impossible.
The names, occupations and localities you quote neither indicate
nor rule out Jewishness.
Jews were expelled comprehensively >from this country in 1290
and not re-admitted officially until 1656. There are records of
individuals and small groups of Jews living in London (and possibly
Bristol) sporadically between 1485 and 1656; however as far as
I am aware none between 1290 and 1485. The Sephardic Jews who
arrived after 1485 were not descended >from any of the 1290 expellees.
It is possible that you might be descended >from a Jew who converted
to Christianity before 1290; however there seem to be no records of
anybody with such ancestry. I would be delighted to be proven wrong!

Richard Cooper
Gosport, UK
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH and GODZINSKIJ >from Warsaw
LEZTER, RINENBERG & SALENDER >from Rzeszow & Kolbuszowa
MILLET & ENGELBERG >from Dabrowa Tarnowska & Lezajsk
ADLER & FINKELSTEIN >from Tarnopol
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNIKOW >from Odessa


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom BROWN- Hampshire - New Member: Am I Jewish? FAQ #unitedkingdom

Richard Cooper <ricooper@...>
 

S.Brown raises a question that I am often asked.
In order to verify Jewish ancestry you need to trace your family back
in the Index of Births & Marriages at the Family Records Centre
generation by generation without skipping until you come to an ancestral
couple who were married 'according to the rites of the Jewish religion'.
However an ancestral birth in Eastern Europe
would also be a positive indicator.
Cross-reference with the decennial censuses >from 1841 onwards:
this will give you more family members,their ages & birthplaces.
If you get back to 1837 without any evidence of Jewishness,
things become more difficult, though not impossible.
The names, occupations and localities you quote neither indicate
nor rule out Jewishness.
Jews were expelled comprehensively >from this country in 1290
and not re-admitted officially until 1656. There are records of
individuals and small groups of Jews living in London (and possibly
Bristol) sporadically between 1485 and 1656; however as far as
I am aware none between 1290 and 1485. The Sephardic Jews who
arrived after 1485 were not descended >from any of the 1290 expellees.
It is possible that you might be descended >from a Jew who converted
to Christianity before 1290; however there seem to be no records of
anybody with such ancestry. I would be delighted to be proven wrong!

Richard Cooper
Gosport, UK
BORENSTEIN, MATELEVITCH and GODZINSKIJ >from Warsaw
LEZTER, RINENBERG & SALENDER >from Rzeszow & Kolbuszowa
MILLET & ENGELBERG >from Dabrowa Tarnowska & Lezajsk
ADLER & FINKELSTEIN >from Tarnopol
LEWINSTEIN >from Berdichev
YAROSHEVSKY & SHAPOCHNIKOW >from Odessa


Somerset West #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I am looking for information on Jack Arnold Segal, who was born in Somerset
West in 1914.
and whose father, Alec Israel Schlomo, was the Rabbi of the Synagogue in
Somerset West.
Information is also required about the Synagogue where Rabbi Schlomo
preached.
Is it still in existence?
Did Somerset West have a Jewish Cemetery where this family could be buried
and are
burial records available?

If anyone can help in this matter please contact me privately at
balden@zahav.net.il

Thank you

Beryl Baleson
balden@zahav.net.il
Israel


A LAUNDRY IN KING WILLIAMS TOWN #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

On July 6th, 1904 the following advertisemment
appeared in the "Cape Mercury", published in King
Williams Town (K.W.T.):

"Mr. G. Ginsberg has much pleasure in informing the
public that he will open an up-to-date Steam Laundry,
about July the 15th, under the style of THE K.W.T.
STEAM LAUNDRY&#8230;.......etc"

Who was Mr. GINSBERG? What was his first name - what
does the initial G stand for?

(I am wondering if he was a relative of my mother's
family who lived in King)

If you know anything about this matter please do get
in touch.

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Somerset West #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I am looking for information on Jack Arnold Segal, who was born in Somerset
West in 1914.
and whose father, Alec Israel Schlomo, was the Rabbi of the Synagogue in
Somerset West.
Information is also required about the Synagogue where Rabbi Schlomo
preached.
Is it still in existence?
Did Somerset West have a Jewish Cemetery where this family could be buried
and are
burial records available?

If anyone can help in this matter please contact me privately at
balden@zahav.net.il

Thank you

Beryl Baleson
balden@zahav.net.il
Israel


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica A LAUNDRY IN KING WILLIAMS TOWN #southafrica

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

On July 6th, 1904 the following advertisemment
appeared in the "Cape Mercury", published in King
Williams Town (K.W.T.):

"Mr. G. Ginsberg has much pleasure in informing the
public that he will open an up-to-date Steam Laundry,
about July the 15th, under the style of THE K.W.T.
STEAM LAUNDRY&#8230;.......etc"

Who was Mr. GINSBERG? What was his first name - what
does the initial G stand for?

(I am wondering if he was a relative of my mother's
family who lived in King)

If you know anything about this matter please do get
in touch.

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Tarascha,Ukraine #ukraine

lolke@juno.com <lolke@...>
 

I would appreciate hearing >from any genners who had family from

Tarascha Ukraine.

My grandparens,HENSEL and FRADEL BORSHARGOFSKY and family emigrated

to Boston MA in 1912.

Thanks.

Lawrence Berch

Canton MA

lolke@juno.com


translation of New Years postcard Yiddish to English #ukraine

annsel <annsel@...>
 

=A0Dear Genners:

I need help with a Yiddish translation that I have posted on viewmate,
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html. The file # is VM 6111. =
The
message is >from the back of a New Year's postcard and we know it came =
from
Vilnius >from my husband's greatgrandparents. The postcard has a picture =
of
my husband's grandmother as a young girl along with her brother. We =
would
love to know what the message contains. Please respond to me offline. I
thank you in advance for any help you can offer.

Anne Selikov
So Cal