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Re: Reverend as Rabbi #rabbinic

David Ferleger
 

On 2005.06.03, Shlomo Katz <SKATZ@ebglaw.com> wrote:

My understanding was that the opposite is true--ordained rabbis were
rare in the U.S. pre-1900s.
Sarna's new book, "American Judaism," says that the first *ordained*
rabbi to arrive/serve in USA was in 1840.

David Ferleger
Bala Cynwyd, PA
mailto:david@ferleger.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Reverend as Rabbi #rabbinic

David Ferleger
 

On 2005.06.03, Shlomo Katz <SKATZ@ebglaw.com> wrote:

My understanding was that the opposite is true--ordained rabbis were
rare in the U.S. pre-1900s.
Sarna's new book, "American Judaism," says that the first *ordained*
rabbi to arrive/serve in USA was in 1840.

David Ferleger
Bala Cynwyd, PA
mailto:david@ferleger.com


Re: MASKILEISON Family #general

Klausner
 

On 2005.05.17, Chaim Freedman <chaimjan@zahav.net.il> wrote:

[...] Does anyone have a family tree of the MASKILEISON family
which might shed light as to the relationship with Kalonymus
Kalmen of Chaussy (Mogilev region)? [...]
To Chayim Shalom,

We were away for some time and culdn't reply earlier on your
posting.

The MASKILEISONs (MASKIL-L'EITAN Sefarad pronnunciation) are well
documented in the AZULAI family of the JACOBI heritage. Enclosed
is the descendant list of Unknown MASKIL-L'EITAN, son-in-law of
R'Israel Zuta b'Aharon YOFE 1642-1702 of Shklov. Their ancestry
interlaces with the YOFE family going back to R'Meir YOFE Hayashish
1325-~1389 and even further to R'Simcha b'Shmuel VITRI d.1105, all
well known and documented.

As to Klonimus Kalman of Chaussy that you mention, there were a
couple of Klonimus Kalman in the YOFE line but I don't have one
marked of "Chaussy". The wife of the Petach-Tikva Rabbi KATZ was
Rachel b'Avraham Yitzchak MASKIL-L'EITAN.

I don't have anything about R'Aharon Meir ALTSCHULER nor about
R'Klonimus Kalman RABINOVITZ.

Best regards
Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il

--

Descendants of: Unknown MASKIL-L'EITAN

* Unknown MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Yudit b'Israel Saba YOFE
** Avraham MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Unknown UNKNOWN
*** Yehuda Leib b'Avraham MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Unknown UNKNOWN
**** Avrahamn b'Yehuda Leib MASKIL-L'EITAN [1788-1848] m. Unknown UNKNOWN
***** Aharon b'Avraham MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Unknown UNKNOWN
****** Avraham Yitzchak b'Aharo MASKIL-L'EITAN [1840-1903] m. Unknown UNKNOWN
******* Rachel b'AvrahamYitzchak MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Reuven KATZ [1880-1964]
******** Bina b'Reuven KATZ m. Zvi Arye Leib HARKAVI
******** Unknown b'Reuven KATZ m. Israel b'Shlomo Zalman SOROTZKIN [ -1966]

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT), EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all
spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER (GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN),
IROM (IRAM) TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia
etc.), Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) >from Galicia, GRINBERG (all sp).


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: MASKILEISON Family #rabbinic

Klausner
 

On 2005.05.17, Chaim Freedman <chaimjan@zahav.net.il> wrote:

[...] Does anyone have a family tree of the MASKILEISON family
which might shed light as to the relationship with Kalonymus
Kalmen of Chaussy (Mogilev region)? [...]
To Chayim Shalom,

We were away for some time and culdn't reply earlier on your
posting.

The MASKILEISONs (MASKIL-L'EITAN Sefarad pronnunciation) are well
documented in the AZULAI family of the JACOBI heritage. Enclosed
is the descendant list of Unknown MASKIL-L'EITAN, son-in-law of
R'Israel Zuta b'Aharon YOFE 1642-1702 of Shklov. Their ancestry
interlaces with the YOFE family going back to R'Meir YOFE Hayashish
1325-~1389 and even further to R'Simcha b'Shmuel VITRI d.1105, all
well known and documented.

As to Klonimus Kalman of Chaussy that you mention, there were a
couple of Klonimus Kalman in the YOFE line but I don't have one
marked of "Chaussy". The wife of the Petach-Tikva Rabbi KATZ was
Rachel b'Avraham Yitzchak MASKIL-L'EITAN.

I don't have anything about R'Aharon Meir ALTSCHULER nor about
R'Klonimus Kalman RABINOVITZ.

Best regards
Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il

--

Descendants of: Unknown MASKIL-L'EITAN

* Unknown MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Yudit b'Israel Saba YOFE
** Avraham MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Unknown UNKNOWN
*** Yehuda Leib b'Avraham MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Unknown UNKNOWN
**** Avrahamn b'Yehuda Leib MASKIL-L'EITAN [1788-1848] m. Unknown UNKNOWN
***** Aharon b'Avraham MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Unknown UNKNOWN
****** Avraham Yitzchak b'Aharo MASKIL-L'EITAN [1840-1903] m. Unknown UNKNOWN
******* Rachel b'AvrahamYitzchak MASKIL-L'EITAN m. Reuven KATZ [1880-1964]
******** Bina b'Reuven KATZ m. Zvi Arye Leib HARKAVI
******** Unknown b'Reuven KATZ m. Israel b'Shlomo Zalman SOROTZKIN [ -1966]

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT), EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all
spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER (GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN),
IROM (IRAM) TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia
etc.), Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) >from Galicia, GRINBERG (all sp).


Contacting Romanian National archives... #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear All,

Once again, I am asking to hear, as soon as possible, >from any of you
who have tried in the past to obtain copies of your family records, by
writing directly to the Romanian National Archives!

Have you received any response to your request? Were they positive
(i.e. you received the documents requested), or negative (response of
"nothing found"), or....?

Please do respond to me as soon as you are able!

Thank you,
Rosanne Leeson
Co-coordinator Rom-Sig


Romania SIG #Romania Contacting Romanian National archives... #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear All,

Once again, I am asking to hear, as soon as possible, >from any of you
who have tried in the past to obtain copies of your family records, by
writing directly to the Romanian National Archives!

Have you received any response to your request? Were they positive
(i.e. you received the documents requested), or negative (response of
"nothing found"), or....?

Please do respond to me as soon as you are able!

Thank you,
Rosanne Leeson
Co-coordinator Rom-Sig


Records of Deceased Persons #unitedkingdom

Nick Landau <N.Landau@...>
 

See the Dept of Health "Application for deceased person's health records"
http://www.dh.gov.uk/PolicyAndGuidance/InformationPolicy/PatientConfidentialityAndCaldicottGuardians/AccessHealthRecordsFAQ/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4039714&chk=iOJNGp#5145299

"Health records relating to deceased people do not carry a common law duty
of confidentiality. However, it is Department of Health and General Medical
Council policy that records relating to deceased people should be treated
with the same level of confidentiality as those relating to living people.
Access to the health records of a deceased person is governed by the Access
to Health Records Act 1990. Under this legislation when a patient has died,
their personal representative or executor or administrator or anyone having
a claim resulting >from the death (this could be a relative or another
person), has the right to apply for access to the deceased's health
records."

"Q Can a person have unlimited access to the health records of the deceased
person?

A If the deceased person had indicated that they did not wish information
to be disclosed, or the record contains information that the deceased person
expected to remain confidential then it must remain so. In addition the
record holder has the right to deny or restrict access if it felt that
disclosure would cause serious harm to the physical or mental health of any
other person, or would identify a third person."

Nick Landau
London, UK

(Currently NHS Primary Care Trust Freedom of Information Project Officer)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Records of Deceased Persons #unitedkingdom

Nick Landau <N.Landau@...>
 

See the Dept of Health "Application for deceased person's health records"
http://www.dh.gov.uk/PolicyAndGuidance/InformationPolicy/PatientConfidentialityAndCaldicottGuardians/AccessHealthRecordsFAQ/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=4039714&chk=iOJNGp#5145299

"Health records relating to deceased people do not carry a common law duty
of confidentiality. However, it is Department of Health and General Medical
Council policy that records relating to deceased people should be treated
with the same level of confidentiality as those relating to living people.
Access to the health records of a deceased person is governed by the Access
to Health Records Act 1990. Under this legislation when a patient has died,
their personal representative or executor or administrator or anyone having
a claim resulting >from the death (this could be a relative or another
person), has the right to apply for access to the deceased's health
records."

"Q Can a person have unlimited access to the health records of the deceased
person?

A If the deceased person had indicated that they did not wish information
to be disclosed, or the record contains information that the deceased person
expected to remain confidential then it must remain so. In addition the
record holder has the right to deny or restrict access if it felt that
disclosure would cause serious harm to the physical or mental health of any
other person, or would identify a third person."

Nick Landau
London, UK

(Currently NHS Primary Care Trust Freedom of Information Project Officer)


Fw: Message for Ukraine SIG digest--RE: Tarascha, Ukraine #ukraine

Peter Dolgenos <dolgenos@...>
 

FW: Message for Ukraine SIG digest--RE: Tarascha, UkraineSince the subject
of Tarascha has come up....
Recently, I hired a professional Ukranian researcher to look into the family
of my grandfather, Leib (Louis) DOLGONOS or DOLGENOS, who was born in 1891
in Skvira. My research strongly indicates that the family was originally
from Tarascha or the surrounding district--possibly >from one of two small
villages, Lyubcha and Ochmatov. My researcher states--his words--that the
Tarascha records are "UNAVAILABLE already for many years and will be still
unavailable for many years in future because the materials are kept in a
storage which is not accessed because its in a very bad shape and the
archives do not have another storage to move those documents to."
Naturally, this is very frustrating.
Have other JewishGenners tried to research Tarascha and had this problem?
Is it possible to purchase new storage for the records? How much would it
cost? I'd be willing to chip in if others did also. Has anyone had
experience with something like this?
In any case, I am glad to know that there is at least one other person out
there researching Tarascha, and would like to hear >from others..

Peter Dolgenos
San Francisco, CA

My Tarascha surnames: DOLGONOS, CHARBERSKY or CHARBEVSKY, OKA (the latter
may be a shortened form of 'Ochmatov" or "Ochmatovsky")


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Fw: Message for Ukraine SIG digest--RE: Tarascha, Ukraine #ukraine

Peter Dolgenos <dolgenos@...>
 

FW: Message for Ukraine SIG digest--RE: Tarascha, UkraineSince the subject
of Tarascha has come up....
Recently, I hired a professional Ukranian researcher to look into the family
of my grandfather, Leib (Louis) DOLGONOS or DOLGENOS, who was born in 1891
in Skvira. My research strongly indicates that the family was originally
from Tarascha or the surrounding district--possibly >from one of two small
villages, Lyubcha and Ochmatov. My researcher states--his words--that the
Tarascha records are "UNAVAILABLE already for many years and will be still
unavailable for many years in future because the materials are kept in a
storage which is not accessed because its in a very bad shape and the
archives do not have another storage to move those documents to."
Naturally, this is very frustrating.
Have other JewishGenners tried to research Tarascha and had this problem?
Is it possible to purchase new storage for the records? How much would it
cost? I'd be willing to chip in if others did also. Has anyone had
experience with something like this?
In any case, I am glad to know that there is at least one other person out
there researching Tarascha, and would like to hear >from others..

Peter Dolgenos
San Francisco, CA

My Tarascha surnames: DOLGONOS, CHARBERSKY or CHARBEVSKY, OKA (the latter
may be a shortened form of 'Ochmatov" or "Ochmatovsky")


Re: STROMWASSEROWNA #general

ben.forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hey Genners

Polish is an unique language in pinpointing an exact
famlly relations and is
probably a great help in building one's genealogical tree:
I hate to be nit picky, but I know that arabic for one
also has these differentiations in maternal/paternal
family relationships

So on a vaguely related note can anyone tell me what the
word is for the relationship between inlaws e.g. my mother
to my wifes mother, I know there's a yiddish word but I
can't remember it. Presumably it is Polish in
origin rather than Aramaic.

Cheers guys

Ben Forman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: STROMWASSEROWNA #general

ben.forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hey Genners

Polish is an unique language in pinpointing an exact
famlly relations and is
probably a great help in building one's genealogical tree:
I hate to be nit picky, but I know that arabic for one
also has these differentiations in maternal/paternal
family relationships

So on a vaguely related note can anyone tell me what the
word is for the relationship between inlaws e.g. my mother
to my wifes mother, I know there's a yiddish word but I
can't remember it. Presumably it is Polish in
origin rather than Aramaic.

Cheers guys

Ben Forman


Re: Danzig records--and others #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Dear Nachum:

You probably mean _Quellen zur Geschichte der Juden in Archiven der
neuen Bundeslaender_, ed. Stefi Jersch-Wenzel. 6vv. It does indeed
contain references to Judentabellen, the annual (sometimes quarterly)
censuses of Jews in various localities or districts.

vv. 2 and 5 of this series cover the Geheimes Staatsarchiv preussischer
Kulturbesitz, the main Prussian archive, which is situated in
Berlin-Dahlem. Items >from throughout Prussia may be found there. For
reasons having to do with various accidents of history, Posen and
Silesia are underrepresented there.

Another series by the same editor has recently been completed. I cited
it in a previous posting to this topic. The first of its two volumes
contains a great deal of information about Posen province. (The second
one has some too, especially for certain western bits of Posen.) On the
other hand, I don't know whether the practice of creating and submitting
Tabellen ever took hold in Posen, because the Grand Duchy did not become
Prussian until either the 2nd or 3rd Partition, i.e., 1792 or 1795, and
was treated as a less-than-fully-integrated territory (not unlike Puerto
Rico vis-a-vis the US) until 1847.

By the way, two weeks ago I had the honor, privilege, and pleasure of
meeting Prof. Jersch-Wenzel at her office in Berlin. She told me that
this particular project (the inventory of inventories of Judaica in
archives of the former East Germany and Prussian Poland) is now
completed. During my visit, I was able to show her JRI-Poland and some
other aspects of JewishGen.

The books are prohibitively expensive for most people--the 2 volumes on
Prussian Poland cost almost 300 Euros. But major university libraries
do carry them, as do some of the archives represented in them. They are
not "complete" in any sense: with some exceptions (notably the Poznan
archive!) the researchers did not survey (or "autopsy", as they say) all
the individual holdings in search of material related to the history of
the Jews, but rather relied on the indexes and existing inventories of
individual holdings. Such inventories are of varying quality and levels
of detail, of course, and some of the archives are still far, far away
from completing their tasks of inventorying. I visited the Opole
archive recently; there they told me--and then invited me to their lab
facility to show me--that certain large holdings, in this case
administrative-court records, were still being inventoried, and that
they were only now discovering what was in them. (Administrative court
records are important: throughout Prussia, these courts were responsible
for Jewish BMD records during the period 1847-1874. Most of the
registers were transferred to local-government registry offices after
that; but a great deal of related material was not. I was able to view
a few recently-identified, not-yet-catalogued volumes of birth
certificates, etc.)

To summarize:

--The Jersch-Wenzel volumes are generally the best source of information
about Jewish-related materials in certain archives.
----Nonetheless, there's more to be found in some of them.

--The Polish State Archives have on-line databases, including one for
genealogical data.
----Especially for Prussian Poland, these are incomplete, but improving
with time.

--RTRfoundation.org has a database containing some of the same
information--and a few items that none of the others do.
----It, too, needs updating and revision.

--The situation is likely to improve in coming years as the archives
themselves delve deeper into the contents of their holdings.

Best regards,

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia, etc.

Nachum Tuchman wrote:

A while back there was talk of a book on the Jews of Prussia. It
started, or had in it's name the word 'quellen', and then something
about the Jews of Prussia, in German.

Included in the book, several volumes actually, there are census lists
from something like 1794, or the first German census that was taken
for each particular town, if after that year.

Noticeably missing are all towns in the Posen district.

I can't remember the name, or the authoress of the book. Hopefully
someone out there will know what I'm talking about and can tell us the
name, remembering that it has census lists.

I do remember that I checked the pages on Danzig for someone, and
there was a census list. As I recall, there were no last names.

Perhaps this book, whatever its' name, can be of help.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Danzig records--and others #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Dear Nachum:

You probably mean _Quellen zur Geschichte der Juden in Archiven der
neuen Bundeslaender_, ed. Stefi Jersch-Wenzel. 6vv. It does indeed
contain references to Judentabellen, the annual (sometimes quarterly)
censuses of Jews in various localities or districts.

vv. 2 and 5 of this series cover the Geheimes Staatsarchiv preussischer
Kulturbesitz, the main Prussian archive, which is situated in
Berlin-Dahlem. Items >from throughout Prussia may be found there. For
reasons having to do with various accidents of history, Posen and
Silesia are underrepresented there.

Another series by the same editor has recently been completed. I cited
it in a previous posting to this topic. The first of its two volumes
contains a great deal of information about Posen province. (The second
one has some too, especially for certain western bits of Posen.) On the
other hand, I don't know whether the practice of creating and submitting
Tabellen ever took hold in Posen, because the Grand Duchy did not become
Prussian until either the 2nd or 3rd Partition, i.e., 1792 or 1795, and
was treated as a less-than-fully-integrated territory (not unlike Puerto
Rico vis-a-vis the US) until 1847.

By the way, two weeks ago I had the honor, privilege, and pleasure of
meeting Prof. Jersch-Wenzel at her office in Berlin. She told me that
this particular project (the inventory of inventories of Judaica in
archives of the former East Germany and Prussian Poland) is now
completed. During my visit, I was able to show her JRI-Poland and some
other aspects of JewishGen.

The books are prohibitively expensive for most people--the 2 volumes on
Prussian Poland cost almost 300 Euros. But major university libraries
do carry them, as do some of the archives represented in them. They are
not "complete" in any sense: with some exceptions (notably the Poznan
archive!) the researchers did not survey (or "autopsy", as they say) all
the individual holdings in search of material related to the history of
the Jews, but rather relied on the indexes and existing inventories of
individual holdings. Such inventories are of varying quality and levels
of detail, of course, and some of the archives are still far, far away
from completing their tasks of inventorying. I visited the Opole
archive recently; there they told me--and then invited me to their lab
facility to show me--that certain large holdings, in this case
administrative-court records, were still being inventoried, and that
they were only now discovering what was in them. (Administrative court
records are important: throughout Prussia, these courts were responsible
for Jewish BMD records during the period 1847-1874. Most of the
registers were transferred to local-government registry offices after
that; but a great deal of related material was not. I was able to view
a few recently-identified, not-yet-catalogued volumes of birth
certificates, etc.)

To summarize:

--The Jersch-Wenzel volumes are generally the best source of information
about Jewish-related materials in certain archives.
----Nonetheless, there's more to be found in some of them.

--The Polish State Archives have on-line databases, including one for
genealogical data.
----Especially for Prussian Poland, these are incomplete, but improving
with time.

--RTRfoundation.org has a database containing some of the same
information--and a few items that none of the others do.
----It, too, needs updating and revision.

--The situation is likely to improve in coming years as the archives
themselves delve deeper into the contents of their holdings.

Best regards,

Roger Lustig
Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia, etc.

Nachum Tuchman wrote:

A while back there was talk of a book on the Jews of Prussia. It
started, or had in it's name the word 'quellen', and then something
about the Jews of Prussia, in German.

Included in the book, several volumes actually, there are census lists
from something like 1794, or the first German census that was taken
for each particular town, if after that year.

Noticeably missing are all towns in the Posen district.

I can't remember the name, or the authoress of the book. Hopefully
someone out there will know what I'm talking about and can tell us the
name, remembering that it has census lists.

I do remember that I checked the pages on Danzig for someone, and
there was a census list. As I recall, there were no last names.

Perhaps this book, whatever its' name, can be of help.


Re: * More Astounding Resources #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Sunday, Jun 5, 2005, at 11:47 Canada/Eastern, Tom Venetianer wrote:

Dear Vivian and all,

What Vivian found is a true Pandora box. One never ceases discovering
new and fantastic research information and resources. Here is the one
I uncovered today:

Magyarorszag nepessege a Pragmatica Sanctio koraban 1720-21.

It's a very comprehensive census of the population living in the
Hungarian Empire, surveyed in around 1735-1739. Some pages are of
special interest to us:

Pages 282 to 290 contain a detailed statistic of all Jews living in
the Empire, classified by several criteria (including the regions >from
where they came to the Empire) and presented by counties and places.
The entry page is:
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04120203/0_0_2_pg_282.html

On pages 488 to 490 there is a summary (in Hungarian) of the history
of Jewish settlements in the Empire and comments on migrations. The
entry page is:
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04120203/0_0_2_pg_488.html

Enjoy
Tom

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Certain counties are missing form the first 18th century Jewish census.
For example Nograd County with its sizable Jewish population in
Balassagyarmat.

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: * More Astounding Resources #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Sunday, Jun 5, 2005, at 11:47 Canada/Eastern, Tom Venetianer wrote:

Dear Vivian and all,

What Vivian found is a true Pandora box. One never ceases discovering
new and fantastic research information and resources. Here is the one
I uncovered today:

Magyarorszag nepessege a Pragmatica Sanctio koraban 1720-21.

It's a very comprehensive census of the population living in the
Hungarian Empire, surveyed in around 1735-1739. Some pages are of
special interest to us:

Pages 282 to 290 contain a detailed statistic of all Jews living in
the Empire, classified by several criteria (including the regions >from
where they came to the Empire) and presented by counties and places.
The entry page is:
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04120203/0_0_2_pg_282.html

On pages 488 to 490 there is a summary (in Hungarian) of the history
of Jewish settlements in the Empire and comments on migrations. The
entry page is:
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04120203/0_0_2_pg_488.html

Enjoy
Tom

-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-
Certain counties are missing form the first 18th century Jewish census.
For example Nograd County with its sizable Jewish population in
Balassagyarmat.

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


Re: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Thanks Viviane. I found the name I was looking for by changing the paging.
Eventually it was there.

Pat

At 03:53 AM 6/4/2005, VivianeCK2003@aol.com wrote:
Pat:
Just select the
_http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_203.html_
(http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_203.html)

copy it and paste it into your browser. It will take you to "S".

To go forward point and click on "kovetkezo oldal". Keeping double clicking
on this and you will get to TRA.

Viviane
My hungarian is limited. I was not born there. I have oral Hungarian and
two dictionaries by my computer. I also used to do research in another
field.
I tend to try everything on a website and sometimes fall into something
good... like this...good luck

In a message dated 6/4/2005 3:05:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
patjw28@earthlink.net writes:
Vivian,

How do you log in? I'm interested in TRA.

Pat



At 09:08 AM 6/2/2005, VivianeCK2003@aol.com wrote:
This resource is great - they have an entire section devoted to name
changes
here I have logged into "S"
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_203.html
It is user friendly - press "elozo oldal" to go back
press "kovetkezo oldal" to go forward
It is really helpful with genealogy research as *so many* Hungarian Jews
changed
their names.
Viviane Kluska
Canton, MI


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY #hungary

Patricia J Weisshaus <patjw28@...>
 

Thanks Viviane. I found the name I was looking for by changing the paging.
Eventually it was there.

Pat

At 03:53 AM 6/4/2005, VivianeCK2003@aol.com wrote:
Pat:
Just select the
_http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_203.html_
(http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_203.html)

copy it and paste it into your browser. It will take you to "S".

To go forward point and click on "kovetkezo oldal". Keeping double clicking
on this and you will get to TRA.

Viviane
My hungarian is limited. I was not born there. I have oral Hungarian and
two dictionaries by my computer. I also used to do research in another
field.
I tend to try everything on a website and sometimes fall into something
good... like this...good luck

In a message dated 6/4/2005 3:05:21 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
patjw28@earthlink.net writes:
Vivian,

How do you log in? I'm interested in TRA.

Pat



At 09:08 AM 6/2/2005, VivianeCK2003@aol.com wrote:
This resource is great - they have an entire section devoted to name
changes
here I have logged into "S"
http://kt.lib.pte.hu/konyvtar/kt04112203/0_0_2_pg_203.html
It is user friendly - press "elozo oldal" to go back
press "kovetkezo oldal" to go forward
It is really helpful with genealogy research as *so many* Hungarian Jews
changed
their names.
Viviane Kluska
Canton, MI


Fw: biological fam.in Breslau #germany

Ronit <ronitw6@...>
 

My mother Dorit, born22.9.1922, was adopted in Breslau in 1924 >from a Jewish
orphanage by family SCHAEFFER. I am searching for biological family of hers.

I have no family name.

She was adopted through a jewish organisation of the Breslauer Synagogue
community. How could I find out ?

Ronith Witkovsky Tel Aviv Israel ronitw6@netvision.net.il


German SIG #Germany Fw: biological fam.in Breslau #germany

Ronit <ronitw6@...>
 

My mother Dorit, born22.9.1922, was adopted in Breslau in 1924 >from a Jewish
orphanage by family SCHAEFFER. I am searching for biological family of hers.

I have no family name.

She was adopted through a jewish organisation of the Breslauer Synagogue
community. How could I find out ?

Ronith Witkovsky Tel Aviv Israel ronitw6@netvision.net.il