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Re: Ermihalyfalva #hungary

Bacskai Sándor <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Miriam Klein,

You are right: Zalman Leib or Yekutiel Yehuda Schonfeld (1883-1944),
the later Dayan of Ujfeherto, son of Rabbi Moshe Yochanan of
Ermihalyfalva, married Rivka Rosenberg (born 1889), daughter of Rabbi
Shaul of Ujfeherto. It was happened cca. 1907 in Ujfeherto.

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary
bacskaisanyi@freemail.hu


Re: Schonfeld #hungary

Bacskai Sándor <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Elizabeth Feder,

The Schonfeld's in Mezolaborc/Medzilaborce and some other place in NE
Slovakia origined by Rabbi Pesach Avraham the Rav of Kurima.

I never found connection >from them to the Schonfeld's of Ermihalyfalva.
Are you sure if they were related?

Regards,

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Ermihalyfalva #hungary

Bacskai Sándor <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Miriam Klein,

You are right: Zalman Leib or Yekutiel Yehuda Schonfeld (1883-1944),
the later Dayan of Ujfeherto, son of Rabbi Moshe Yochanan of
Ermihalyfalva, married Rivka Rosenberg (born 1889), daughter of Rabbi
Shaul of Ujfeherto. It was happened cca. 1907 in Ujfeherto.

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary
bacskaisanyi@freemail.hu


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Schonfeld #hungary

Bacskai Sándor <bacskaisanyi@...>
 

Dear Elizabeth Feder,

The Schonfeld's in Mezolaborc/Medzilaborce and some other place in NE
Slovakia origined by Rabbi Pesach Avraham the Rav of Kurima.

I never found connection >from them to the Schonfeld's of Ermihalyfalva.
Are you sure if they were related?

Regards,

Sandor Bacskai
Budapest, Hungary


Re: R'Moshe Yochanan SCHONFELD - 2017 #hungary

Klausner
 

Dear Elizabeth,
The SCHONFELDs that relate to Bnei Yisachar are descendants of M'Sara b'Zvi
Elimelech SCHAPIRA, the daughter of Bnei Yisachar who married R'Moshe
b'Eliezer SCHONFELD 1807-1878.
Probably, I could give you your whole lineage if send me your complete
ancestry as far back as possible.
Best regards and Shavua Tov Yehuda

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu

Join the Israel Genealogical Society (IGS) and receive our bi-lingual
Journal
"Sharsheret Hadorot"
Society branches are in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Negev (Beer Sheva),
Netanya.
ehfurman@netvision.net.il

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT),
EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER
(GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN), IROM (IRAM)
TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia etc.),
Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) >from Galicia, GRINBERG (all spellings).

----- Original Message -----
From: "lrfeder" <lrfeder@comcast.net>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [h-sig] R'Moshe Yochanan SCHONFELD - 2017


I am part of the SCHONFELD family, a different branch than the one being
discussed here. I don't know how the information you provided fits into
my
tree, and would like to know what other information you might have on the
SCHONFELD family. We are descended of the Bnei Yissaschar, and originate
in
Medzilaborce, Huncovce, Presov, Vranov - Slovakian areas.

Zalman Leib is equivalent to Yekutial Yehuda. My brother is Zalman Leib,
but is called for an Aliya to the Torah as Yekutiel Yehuda (other cousins
as
well).

Shabbat Shalom
Kol Tuv

Elizabeth Feder
Chicago

-----Original Message-----
From: Y. Klausner [mailto:yklaus@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 5:40 AM
To: H-SIG
Cc: mopklein@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [h-sig] R'Moshe Yochanan SCHONFELD - 2017

Dear Miriam,
Rabbi Moshe Yochanan b'Benyamin SCHONFELD was born 1849 (5609) in
Mihalyfalva. He married the daughter of R'Mordechay Markel FRIEDMAN of
Mikola who supported him. He died 25-June-1913 (20 Sivan 5673). He had 5
sons: R'Yechezkel, R'Benyamin, R'Avraham, R'Shmuel and R'Yosef Shaul and a
daughter who married R'Moshe b'Yakov Shalom SOFER.
As to my knowledge he had no son by the name Zalman Leib. One of Rabbi
Shaul
ROSENBERG of Ratzfert married a SCHONFELD but he was R'Yekutiel Yehuda
SCHONFELD.
Best regards Yehuda

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: R'Moshe Yochanan SCHONFELD - 2017 #hungary

Klausner
 

Dear Elizabeth,
The SCHONFELDs that relate to Bnei Yisachar are descendants of M'Sara b'Zvi
Elimelech SCHAPIRA, the daughter of Bnei Yisachar who married R'Moshe
b'Eliezer SCHONFELD 1807-1878.
Probably, I could give you your whole lineage if send me your complete
ancestry as far back as possible.
Best regards and Shavua Tov Yehuda

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu

Join the Israel Genealogical Society (IGS) and receive our bi-lingual
Journal
"Sharsheret Hadorot"
Society branches are in Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, Haifa, Negev (Beer Sheva),
Netanya.
ehfurman@netvision.net.il

Searching:
KLAUSNER (KLAUZNER, CLOISNER, KLUZNER, etc.), BARZAM, KADISH, BUSHKE
(BOSHKE), ZEINWIRT (ZENVIRT),
EILENBERG (ILENBERG), LIEBERMAN (all spellings), WITKIND, HOCHGELEHRNTER
(GELEHRNTER), ENGLMAN (ENGELMAN), IROM (IRAM)
TEUMIM, MICHELSON Great Britain, South Africa, Rhodesia etc.),
Descendants of Moshe ben Meir KATZNELENBOGEN of Chelm, HERLING,
KATZ, (HaCOHEN, KAHANE, COHEN, etc.) >from Galicia, GRINBERG (all spellings).

----- Original Message -----
From: "lrfeder" <lrfeder@comcast.net>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [h-sig] R'Moshe Yochanan SCHONFELD - 2017


I am part of the SCHONFELD family, a different branch than the one being
discussed here. I don't know how the information you provided fits into
my
tree, and would like to know what other information you might have on the
SCHONFELD family. We are descended of the Bnei Yissaschar, and originate
in
Medzilaborce, Huncovce, Presov, Vranov - Slovakian areas.

Zalman Leib is equivalent to Yekutial Yehuda. My brother is Zalman Leib,
but is called for an Aliya to the Torah as Yekutiel Yehuda (other cousins
as
well).

Shabbat Shalom
Kol Tuv

Elizabeth Feder
Chicago

-----Original Message-----
From: Y. Klausner [mailto:yklaus@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 5:40 AM
To: H-SIG
Cc: mopklein@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [h-sig] R'Moshe Yochanan SCHONFELD - 2017

Dear Miriam,
Rabbi Moshe Yochanan b'Benyamin SCHONFELD was born 1849 (5609) in
Mihalyfalva. He married the daughter of R'Mordechay Markel FRIEDMAN of
Mikola who supported him. He died 25-June-1913 (20 Sivan 5673). He had 5
sons: R'Yechezkel, R'Benyamin, R'Avraham, R'Shmuel and R'Yosef Shaul and a
daughter who married R'Moshe b'Yakov Shalom SOFER.
As to my knowledge he had no son by the name Zalman Leib. One of Rabbi
Shaul
ROSENBERG of Ratzfert married a SCHONFELD but he was R'Yekutiel Yehuda
SCHONFELD.
Best regards Yehuda

Dr. Yehuda Klausner
yklaus@netvision.net.il
yehudakl@bgumail.bgu.ac.il
klausner@alumni.princeton.edu


Re: Why won't Gesher Galicia search for the vital records of Dobromil #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Hi,

It appears to me that the problems with Dobromil records is associated with
the fact that Dobromil was not always the seat of the administrative
district.

Depending of the period in the Galicia history it looks like Dobromil was
falling under Przemysl, Sambor or Mosciska administrative regions.

May I suggest to Dennis to enter Dobromil name (town name) into JRI-P/All
Poland database and to analyze the results while searching for the family
surnames. There are 608 records for Dobromil and if marriage records are
omitted, there are several births records that indicated father's town and
residents town as Dobromil but records are listed under Przemysl, Sambor or
Stary Sambor as the records depositories. Same applies to the deaths
records.

In several instances father's name is not shown, and perhaps there are could
be more than just 608 records for Dobromil.

Perhaps Dobromil will surface at the later stage as the records depository
as we are entering into 20 century AGAD Archives records.


Alexander Sharon
Clagary, Ab


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Re:Why won't Gesher Galicia search for the vital records of Dobromil #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Hi,

It appears to me that the problems with Dobromil records is associated with
the fact that Dobromil was not always the seat of the administrative
district.

Depending of the period in the Galicia history it looks like Dobromil was
falling under Przemysl, Sambor or Mosciska administrative regions.

May I suggest to Dennis to enter Dobromil name (town name) into JRI-P/All
Poland database and to analyze the results while searching for the family
surnames. There are 608 records for Dobromil and if marriage records are
omitted, there are several births records that indicated father's town and
residents town as Dobromil but records are listed under Przemysl, Sambor or
Stary Sambor as the records depositories. Same applies to the deaths
records.

In several instances father's name is not shown, and perhaps there are could
be more than just 608 records for Dobromil.

Perhaps Dobromil will surface at the later stage as the records depository
as we are entering into 20 century AGAD Archives records.


Alexander Sharon
Clagary, Ab


Military records in the Austro-Hungarian Empire #general

Shlomo Katz <SKATZ@...>
 

Although the post regarding "Military records in the Austro-Hungarian
Empire" requested private replies, this topic is of general interest. If
anyone knows where the military records are kept for members of the
Austro-Hungarian Army for recruits who came >from Eastern Galicia, please
either reply publicly or copy me on the response.
Thanks
Shomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Military records in the Austro-Hungarian Empire #general

Shlomo Katz <SKATZ@...>
 

Although the post regarding "Military records in the Austro-Hungarian
Empire" requested private replies, this topic is of general interest. If
anyone knows where the military records are kept for members of the
Austro-Hungarian Army for recruits who came >from Eastern Galicia, please
either reply publicly or copy me on the response.
Thanks
Shomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


Re: Designation of unmarried partners #unitedkingdom

Yisrael Asper
 

I disagree. The job of a genealogist is to decide who is related to who.
Just living together is a piece of information to be included in the family
tree or not, but was not setup to be a relationship for genealogy neither
can a close friend be listed as a relative and you can be as close a friend
as any two friends can be, close or even closer than family. The only time
marriage has been recognized by a community as not needing to be recognized
by the state is when there has been persecution involved. Whether we like it
or not however if the state accepts gay marriage that is a relationship of
some sort like adoption.

Yisrael Asper
Pittsburgh PA USA
yisraelasper@comcast.net

Dear Listers,

Many people have responded about whether a genealogy software program
can accommodate an unmarried couple. However, the technical aspects
of the program are of secondary nature when compared to the
sociological and personal preferences of the family genealogist.
Apart >from the potential sensitivity of the issue if "broadcasting"
the issue in a printout (or not), there is the issue of what does
married or unmarried mean? Is one married if only a religious
ceremony is carried out, or does it have to include a civil "union"
process as recognized by civil law?

Secondly, this issue has been raised before and people have generally
come down firmly on one side of the fence or the other. I think it is
important to record all the facts and all pertinent information "just
in case." One could end up in a situation if your connection to the
couple was via the female (if it is a heterosexual couple), one could
argue that by not recording the information we would be reverting to
the situation of the "missing female." The couple, be they same sex
or not, may not be married, but they may have created a legal
situation whereby one partner is to become the executor or have legal
responsibility in the case of medical illness.

Hence I think there are many good reasons for denoting the
information. I think that we as genealogists ought to be the last
ones to deciding what is or what isn't a relationship.

Jeremy G Frankel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Designation of unmarried partners #general

Yisrael Asper
 

I disagree. The job of a genealogist is to decide who is related to who.
Just living together is a piece of information to be included in the family
tree or not, but was not setup to be a relationship for genealogy neither
can a close friend be listed as a relative and you can be as close a friend
as any two friends can be, close or even closer than family. The only time
marriage has been recognized by a community as not needing to be recognized
by the state is when there has been persecution involved. Whether we like it
or not however if the state accepts gay marriage that is a relationship of
some sort like adoption.

Yisrael Asper
Pittsburgh PA USA
yisraelasper@comcast.net

Dear Listers,

Many people have responded about whether a genealogy software program
can accommodate an unmarried couple. However, the technical aspects
of the program are of secondary nature when compared to the
sociological and personal preferences of the family genealogist.
Apart >from the potential sensitivity of the issue if "broadcasting"
the issue in a printout (or not), there is the issue of what does
married or unmarried mean? Is one married if only a religious
ceremony is carried out, or does it have to include a civil "union"
process as recognized by civil law?

Secondly, this issue has been raised before and people have generally
come down firmly on one side of the fence or the other. I think it is
important to record all the facts and all pertinent information "just
in case." One could end up in a situation if your connection to the
couple was via the female (if it is a heterosexual couple), one could
argue that by not recording the information we would be reverting to
the situation of the "missing female." The couple, be they same sex
or not, may not be married, but they may have created a legal
situation whereby one partner is to become the executor or have legal
responsibility in the case of medical illness.

Hence I think there are many good reasons for denoting the
information. I think that we as genealogists ought to be the last
ones to deciding what is or what isn't a relationship.

Jeremy G Frankel


RACIMORA #general

TE <tome1111@...>
 

I'm interested in finding people who are searching the name: Racimora


Thanks,
Tom Erribe
CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Chances of success in your research will be greatly
enhanced if you register the name you are searching for in
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RACIMORA #general

TE <tome1111@...>
 

I'm interested in finding people who are searching the name: Racimora


Thanks,
Tom Erribe
CA

MODERATOR NOTE: Chances of success in your research will be greatly
enhanced if you register the name you are searching for in
the JewishGen Family Finder. Go to www.jewishgen.org/jgff


City Directory - Hamburg #general

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

Does anyone know if Hamburg, Germany, might have had a city directory
anytime during the 1930s? I am trying to track down information on
relatives who were transported to Minsk in 1941. I would like to know
more about their life in Hamburg before this happened. The only info I
have at this point is the 1939 German Minority Census, in addition to
the National and Hamburg Gedenkbuchs (Gedenkbuchen?)Are there any
synagogue records, newspapers or magazines still available that detail
the lives of Hamburg's Jewish population? Any advice would be much
appreciated.

Susan Bergman Meehan
Washington, DC

MODERATOR NOTE: You will probably benefit greatly by posting this question to
the German SIG (special interest group). You can subscribe here:
http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager You might also like to check out their
web site at: http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen City Directory - Hamburg #general

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

Does anyone know if Hamburg, Germany, might have had a city directory
anytime during the 1930s? I am trying to track down information on
relatives who were transported to Minsk in 1941. I would like to know
more about their life in Hamburg before this happened. The only info I
have at this point is the 1939 German Minority Census, in addition to
the National and Hamburg Gedenkbuchs (Gedenkbuchen?)Are there any
synagogue records, newspapers or magazines still available that detail
the lives of Hamburg's Jewish population? Any advice would be much
appreciated.

Susan Bergman Meehan
Washington, DC

MODERATOR NOTE: You will probably benefit greatly by posting this question to
the German SIG (special interest group). You can subscribe here:
http://lyris.jewishgen.org/ListManager You might also like to check out their
web site at: http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/


Surname searches #belarus

ilana harwayne-gidansky <ilanahg2001@...>
 

Hi--
I too seem to have hit a roadblock in my searches; I cannot seem to find any
census data for ANY of my family names in Belarus, and can't find anyone
from the town of Kopatkevichi. Does anyone have any information on the
surnames listed below?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Ilana Harwayne-Gidansky
New York, NY

http://homepage.mac.com/srhymes/Genealogy/index.html

Searching for:
GURVITCH, HURWITZ-- Kopatkevichi, Belarus
KORNBLATT , WOLPER-- Miropol or Zhitomer, Ukraine
RE(I)CHTER, NUTYK-- Obertyn, Ukraine (Poland)
WEITZMAN-- Kobryn, Belarus;
JA(U)KOFSKY, KO(A)STRINSKY-- Antopol, Belarus
GODSCHEIDER, GIDANSKY, GIDDENS, HARWAYNE-- anywhere


Belarus SIG #Belarus Surname searches #belarus

ilana harwayne-gidansky <ilanahg2001@...>
 

Hi--
I too seem to have hit a roadblock in my searches; I cannot seem to find any
census data for ANY of my family names in Belarus, and can't find anyone
from the town of Kopatkevichi. Does anyone have any information on the
surnames listed below?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Ilana Harwayne-Gidansky
New York, NY

http://homepage.mac.com/srhymes/Genealogy/index.html

Searching for:
GURVITCH, HURWITZ-- Kopatkevichi, Belarus
KORNBLATT , WOLPER-- Miropol or Zhitomer, Ukraine
RE(I)CHTER, NUTYK-- Obertyn, Ukraine (Poland)
WEITZMAN-- Kobryn, Belarus;
JA(U)KOFSKY, KO(A)STRINSKY-- Antopol, Belarus
GODSCHEIDER, GIDANSKY, GIDDENS, HARWAYNE-- anywhere


Re: frenchsig digest: May 15, 2005 #france

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

Part of the problem was that they were scheduling the luncheons together and
there were conflicts.

Jackye Sullins


Subject: Las Vegas Convention FrenchSIG Luncheon...!
From: Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:54:11 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear All,

I have just been notified by those in Las Vegas who are in charge of
the Convention scheduling, that only 8 members of the FrenchSIG have
signed up to attend a FrenchSIG Luncheon. As the rooms used for the
SIG luncheons are set for >from 60 to 80 persons, and very high
surcharges are made for any smaller groups, the decision has been made
to cancel the FrenchSIG luncheon.

It would have been nice, but... However, our SIG meeting is still
scheduled for Monday morning, July 11 at 9:45 am, and I do hope that
there will a number of you who will attend that! We have matters of
importance to discuss. We will also have a presence at the SIG Fair on
Wed. July 13. We hope to see you there, too!

I will discuss with the Convention planners the matter of returning any
fees already paid for the planned luncheon, and let you know the
procedure involved.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
FrenchSIG


French SIG #France Re: frenchsig digest: May 15, 2005 #france

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

Part of the problem was that they were scheduling the luncheons together and
there were conflicts.

Jackye Sullins


Subject: Las Vegas Convention FrenchSIG Luncheon...!
From: Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:54:11 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear All,

I have just been notified by those in Las Vegas who are in charge of
the Convention scheduling, that only 8 members of the FrenchSIG have
signed up to attend a FrenchSIG Luncheon. As the rooms used for the
SIG luncheons are set for >from 60 to 80 persons, and very high
surcharges are made for any smaller groups, the decision has been made
to cancel the FrenchSIG luncheon.

It would have been nice, but... However, our SIG meeting is still
scheduled for Monday morning, July 11 at 9:45 am, and I do hope that
there will a number of you who will attend that! We have matters of
importance to discuss. We will also have a presence at the SIG Fair on
Wed. July 13. We hope to see you there, too!

I will discuss with the Convention planners the matter of returning any
fees already paid for the planned luncheon, and let you know the
procedure involved.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
FrenchSIG