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Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA - & Right to Privacy #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:19:02 UTC, jan@... (Jan) opined:

Peter Zavon wrote:

Interesting.

I just looked at this site and it showed, not the time when a person was it
the listed address, but their month and year of birth. Several, including
my entry, had nothing for that, and in a few cases the database had it
wrong. It was off by 20 years in the case of my sister.

Aside >from trying to list birthdates, I don't see anything that might be
troublesome here. However, it is noted that this is described as a Beta
site and will be on line until 31 March. Presumably it is continually
changing.
While this may work for most genealogy, in some cases people do not want
their presence, addresses or other information to be so available. In
my own genealogical work, a few relatives had had bad experiences in
their part of the families and they react poorly to contact.

Additionally, some people do not want their address or phone or birth
dates made available. Sites like this assume they have no right to such
privacy - something which is difficult to convince anyone of.
People who do not want their names made public, nor their addresses,
especially in conjunction with their telephone numbers, have a special
problem if they also desire to be listed in the telephone directory. Unless
I have again overlooked something, it is really only the birthdate (often
off by several decades) that the website in question adds to what is
revealed about virtually every US resident by virtue of being a telephone
subscriber.

In all candor, I think the sensitivity you describe is grossly exaggerated,
with no basis in reality.

To be clear, if one were to publish identifying details such as addresses
and the like in a genealogical chart, that would be a serious infringement
of privacy. Separated >from the chart, neither is an infringement. Suppose,
for example, an individual named e.g. "Morris Cohen" appears on a published
chart. There must be tens of thousands of people with this name in the
English speaking world. Which one is he, in the absence of identifying
details? Except for people with exceedingly rare names, of course.

It's not a perfect world and there are some sticky things - like this -
to which we all really need to be sensitive.

Jan Widome
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA - & Right to Privacy #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:19:02 UTC, jan@... (Jan) opined:

Peter Zavon wrote:

Interesting.

I just looked at this site and it showed, not the time when a person was it
the listed address, but their month and year of birth. Several, including
my entry, had nothing for that, and in a few cases the database had it
wrong. It was off by 20 years in the case of my sister.

Aside >from trying to list birthdates, I don't see anything that might be
troublesome here. However, it is noted that this is described as a Beta
site and will be on line until 31 March. Presumably it is continually
changing.
While this may work for most genealogy, in some cases people do not want
their presence, addresses or other information to be so available. In
my own genealogical work, a few relatives had had bad experiences in
their part of the families and they react poorly to contact.

Additionally, some people do not want their address or phone or birth
dates made available. Sites like this assume they have no right to such
privacy - something which is difficult to convince anyone of.
People who do not want their names made public, nor their addresses,
especially in conjunction with their telephone numbers, have a special
problem if they also desire to be listed in the telephone directory. Unless
I have again overlooked something, it is really only the birthdate (often
off by several decades) that the website in question adds to what is
revealed about virtually every US resident by virtue of being a telephone
subscriber.

In all candor, I think the sensitivity you describe is grossly exaggerated,
with no basis in reality.

To be clear, if one were to publish identifying details such as addresses
and the like in a genealogical chart, that would be a serious infringement
of privacy. Separated >from the chart, neither is an infringement. Suppose,
for example, an individual named e.g. "Morris Cohen" appears on a published
chart. There must be tens of thousands of people with this name in the
English speaking world. Which one is he, in the absence of identifying
details? Except for people with exceedingly rare names, of course.

It's not a perfect world and there are some sticky things - like this -
to which we all really need to be sensitive.

Jan Widome
--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Chernigov Distribution list Launching Today!!! #poland #warsaw

Terri <terrib@...>
 

Today, 3/23/05, I'm happy to announce that we are launching the Chernigov
Distribution list, UKR-CHERNIGOV-L@....

Chernigov is approximately 140 kilometers NNE of Kiev. For those of you who
are not sure where Chernigov is, please refer to the following map:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/maps/ukraine.jpg


To subscribe to the Chernigov distribution list, in mail mode, please send
an email to: UKR-CHERNIGOV-L-request@.... In the subject line,
please write subscribe.

If you prefer digest mode, please send the command instead to:
UKR-CHERNIGOV-D-request@....

Beginning 3/24, the Chernigov distribution list will be posted on:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/UKR/UKR-CHERNIGOV.html

For questions pertaining to the Chernigov distribution list, please post
your question on the new Chernigov distribution list at:

UKR-CHERNIGOV-L@...

Thank you,

Tom Erribe
CA


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Chernigov Distribution list Launching Today!!! #warsaw #poland

Terri <terrib@...>
 

Today, 3/23/05, I'm happy to announce that we are launching the Chernigov
Distribution list, UKR-CHERNIGOV-L@....

Chernigov is approximately 140 kilometers NNE of Kiev. For those of you who
are not sure where Chernigov is, please refer to the following map:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/maps/ukraine.jpg


To subscribe to the Chernigov distribution list, in mail mode, please send
an email to: UKR-CHERNIGOV-L-request@.... In the subject line,
please write subscribe.

If you prefer digest mode, please send the command instead to:
UKR-CHERNIGOV-D-request@....

Beginning 3/24, the Chernigov distribution list will be posted on:
http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/UKR/UKR-CHERNIGOV.html

For questions pertaining to the Chernigov distribution list, please post
your question on the new Chernigov distribution list at:

UKR-CHERNIGOV-L@...

Thank you,

Tom Erribe
CA


ISAACS of Ipswich (or Chelmsford?) #unitedkingdom

Jon Myers <emquad@...>
 

After researching (with help of some at JGSGB) my ISAACS ancestors of
Ipswich for years without any positive feedback, recently I received an
extraordinary and unsolicited e-mail >from a lady in Swansea who told me
that she, too, was descended >from Israel (a k a Asher) ISAACS (c.1735-1837)
of Ipswich, in a descent which makes her my 4th cousin once removed.

The open question is whether my ISAACS ancestor is related to the ISAACS
family whose Israel ISAACS of Chelmsford (c.1735-????) was progenitor of
the 1st Marquess of Reading, for which see Burke's Peerage (p. 2376 in the
106th edition, 1999). The marriage listed does not match what I have, but
as my Asher lived to 102 (per his DC), anything is possible. The lady from
Swansea told me there was a family lore in her ISAACS that they are,
indeed, related to the Reading ISAACs.

Any comment appreciated as to whether we are dealing with one Israel ISAACS
born "c.1735" or two born "c.1735", >from Chelmsford and Ipswich. According
to an expert researcher, "my" Israel was named Asher ben Isaac Ibshits,
therefore >from Ipswich, and indeed his daughter, my ggg-grandmother Betsy
ISAACS said she was >from Ipswich on the census of 1851.

Jon Myers New York
Try the Myers family tree search engine:
http://emquad.home.att.net/ancestry.html
NB. For reasons unknown, some browsers
will reject this address the first time
it is entered but accept it the second.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom ISAACS of Ipswich (or Chelmsford?) #unitedkingdom

Jon Myers <emquad@...>
 

After researching (with help of some at JGSGB) my ISAACS ancestors of
Ipswich for years without any positive feedback, recently I received an
extraordinary and unsolicited e-mail >from a lady in Swansea who told me
that she, too, was descended >from Israel (a k a Asher) ISAACS (c.1735-1837)
of Ipswich, in a descent which makes her my 4th cousin once removed.

The open question is whether my ISAACS ancestor is related to the ISAACS
family whose Israel ISAACS of Chelmsford (c.1735-????) was progenitor of
the 1st Marquess of Reading, for which see Burke's Peerage (p. 2376 in the
106th edition, 1999). The marriage listed does not match what I have, but
as my Asher lived to 102 (per his DC), anything is possible. The lady from
Swansea told me there was a family lore in her ISAACS that they are,
indeed, related to the Reading ISAACs.

Any comment appreciated as to whether we are dealing with one Israel ISAACS
born "c.1735" or two born "c.1735", >from Chelmsford and Ipswich. According
to an expert researcher, "my" Israel was named Asher ben Isaac Ibshits,
therefore >from Ipswich, and indeed his daughter, my ggg-grandmother Betsy
ISAACS said she was >from Ipswich on the census of 1851.

Jon Myers New York
Try the Myers family tree search engine:
http://emquad.home.att.net/ancestry.html
NB. For reasons unknown, some browsers
will reject this address the first time
it is entered but accept it the second.


Re: Lilyan Tashman #yiddish

David Harris <dorsharris@...>
 

In an earlier message, Kandi Wasser was seeking information about the
actress Lilyan TASHMAN that might lead to a family connection.

According to the April 21, 1937 edition of the New York Times, Lilyan
Tashman (who died in 1934), had been married to the movie actor Edmund
LOWE. Because of estate issues, two sisters of Lilyan Tashman were named in
the newspaper. They were Jennie ROBINSON and Hattie BLUMENSON. The article
is unclear as to whether it was the Supreme Court of the state of
California or the state of New York that was hearing the dispute.

A search for the family connection through the sisters might prove
fruitful. Hattie Tashman Blumenson (born Jan. 10, 1892) died in Contra
Costa county, CA on Oct. 20, 1953. Obtaining the death certificate may give a clue
to any descendents that might be able to assist in the search.

David Harris
Silver spring, MD


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Re: Lilyan Tashman #yiddish

David Harris <dorsharris@...>
 

In an earlier message, Kandi Wasser was seeking information about the
actress Lilyan TASHMAN that might lead to a family connection.

According to the April 21, 1937 edition of the New York Times, Lilyan
Tashman (who died in 1934), had been married to the movie actor Edmund
LOWE. Because of estate issues, two sisters of Lilyan Tashman were named in
the newspaper. They were Jennie ROBINSON and Hattie BLUMENSON. The article
is unclear as to whether it was the Supreme Court of the state of
California or the state of New York that was hearing the dispute.

A search for the family connection through the sisters might prove
fruitful. Hattie Tashman Blumenson (born Jan. 10, 1892) died in Contra
Costa county, CA on Oct. 20, 1953. Obtaining the death certificate may give a clue
to any descendents that might be able to assist in the search.

David Harris
Silver spring, MD


Zabasearch #general

Shlomo Katz <SKATZ@...>
 

When I search I my name, numerous entries come up. I am there, with my
correct address and phone number, but no birthday. My picture is
attached, but so is a picture of someone else. And, the same pictures
comes up for other Shlomo Katzes also.
Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zabasearch #general

Shlomo Katz <SKATZ@...>
 

When I search I my name, numerous entries come up. I am there, with my
correct address and phone number, but no birthday. My picture is
attached, but so is a picture of someone else. And, the same pictures
comes up for other Shlomo Katzes also.
Shlomo Katz
Silver Spring MD


Wambach and ROTHSCHILD #usa

Airbair@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Significant additional discussion of this
topic has been posted to the GerSIG forum.

It is my understanding that before 1830 or so church registers in Germany
often recorded all citizens, regardless of religion. Therefore, a search of
church records might be worth doing.

Also, on Mapquest, I got the following hits for Wambach.

Wambach, Baden-W=FCrttemberg, L=F6rrach, DE
Wambach, Bayern, Erding, DE
Wambach, Bayern, Kelheim, DE
Wambach, Hessen, Rheingau-Taunus-Kreis, DE

It would appear that item 2 or 3 might be the right one, although none are
too far away >from "Bavaria" in its earlier configurations.

Jeff Lewy San Francisco, CA Airbair@...


Early American SIG #USA Wambach and ROTHSCHILD #usa

Airbair@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: Significant additional discussion of this
topic has been posted to the GerSIG forum.

It is my understanding that before 1830 or so church registers in Germany
often recorded all citizens, regardless of religion. Therefore, a search of
church records might be worth doing.

Also, on Mapquest, I got the following hits for Wambach.

Wambach, Baden-W=FCrttemberg, L=F6rrach, DE
Wambach, Bayern, Erding, DE
Wambach, Bayern, Kelheim, DE
Wambach, Hessen, Rheingau-Taunus-Kreis, DE

It would appear that item 2 or 3 might be the right one, although none are
too far away >from "Bavaria" in its earlier configurations.

Jeff Lewy San Francisco, CA Airbair@...


Lilyan Tashman 1899 -1934 Movie Star #yiddish

Solna K. (Kandi) Wasser <skwasser@...>
 

Hello,
I just came upon this digest and thought this might have some
potential...though not exactly Jewish Theatre or Vaudeville.
I am researching the silent and early sound movie star, Lilyan TASHMAN. I
have been in touch with two families that have been told, as I, that they
are related to her. We are all looking for a missing link that will connect
us. I would welcome any other Tashmans or Tashman relatives (spellings
can differ, i.e. Tacshman, Taszman) to email me directly.
Thank you in advance.

Kandi Wasser

Moderator's Note: Please enter surnames in capital letters. Also, for the benefit
of the members trying to help, please list your city, state, country, etc.


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Lilyan Tashman 1899 -1934 Movie Star #yiddish

Solna K. (Kandi) Wasser <skwasser@...>
 

Hello,
I just came upon this digest and thought this might have some
potential...though not exactly Jewish Theatre or Vaudeville.
I am researching the silent and early sound movie star, Lilyan TASHMAN. I
have been in touch with two families that have been told, as I, that they
are related to her. We are all looking for a missing link that will connect
us. I would welcome any other Tashmans or Tashman relatives (spellings
can differ, i.e. Tacshman, Taszman) to email me directly.
Thank you in advance.

Kandi Wasser

Moderator's Note: Please enter surnames in capital letters. Also, for the benefit
of the members trying to help, please list your city, state, country, etc.


Solomon COHEN in Whitechapel #general

Susan Collins <sue@...>
 

I'm searching for descendants of some of the nine children of Solomon COHEN
and his wife Jane LEBRANSKI. Solomon was a cabinet maker born in Russia,
1853 and Jane in 1855. Town, hard to decipher. Dulhever? The children born
in Russia are Annie b1875, Leah b1880, Bessy b1881, Mark b1883. Then in
Whitechapel, London, Fanny b1885, Reuben b15/091886, Sarah b1890, Tilly
b1892, Abraham b1893 and Jack b1895. (years calculated >from census)
So they must have arrived in London 1884 approx and settled first in Booth
Street Buildings. Later they lived at number 30 and by 1901, at 33 Grey
Eagle Street. Mark Cohen is my childrens great grandfather. He married Fanny
BLUMENTHAL, the girl next door, at 34, Grey Eagle Street. We know that Tilly
and Sarah died without marrying - but the rest? There must be a few of you
out there? I'd like to know more about that family too, variously called
CLARNETTE 1881, CLARNUSS 1891 and KLAURMUTH in 1901.
Regards SUE COLLINS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Solomon COHEN in Whitechapel #general

Susan Collins <sue@...>
 

I'm searching for descendants of some of the nine children of Solomon COHEN
and his wife Jane LEBRANSKI. Solomon was a cabinet maker born in Russia,
1853 and Jane in 1855. Town, hard to decipher. Dulhever? The children born
in Russia are Annie b1875, Leah b1880, Bessy b1881, Mark b1883. Then in
Whitechapel, London, Fanny b1885, Reuben b15/091886, Sarah b1890, Tilly
b1892, Abraham b1893 and Jack b1895. (years calculated >from census)
So they must have arrived in London 1884 approx and settled first in Booth
Street Buildings. Later they lived at number 30 and by 1901, at 33 Grey
Eagle Street. Mark Cohen is my childrens great grandfather. He married Fanny
BLUMENTHAL, the girl next door, at 34, Grey Eagle Street. We know that Tilly
and Sarah died without marrying - but the rest? There must be a few of you
out there? I'd like to know more about that family too, variously called
CLARNETTE 1881, CLARNUSS 1891 and KLAURMUTH in 1901.
Regards SUE COLLINS


Re: Wambach, Germany and ROTHSCHILD #usa

Lars E. Menk <Lmenk@...>
 

On GerSig Debbie Raff wrote:

"I've got a genealogy question for you. I have a line that goes back to
Wambach, Bavaria (Germany).
There are in fact a number of locations named Wambach in Germany:

- Wambach, today to 65388 Schlangenbad in Hesse
- Wambach, today to 84416 Taufkirchen (Vils) in Bavaria
- Wambach, today to 84048 Mainburg in Bavaria
- Wambach, today to 79697 Wies (Schwarzwald) in Baden-Württemberg
- 57614 Ober-Wambach in Rheinland-Pfalz
- 57614 Nieder-Wambach in Rheinland-Pfalz

Only in Nieder-Wambach Jews were living in the 19th century, one family
GRUENEWALD in 1846.
(source: "Verzeichniss der jüdischen Familien und der einzelnen,
selbstständigen Juden und Jüdinnen in den ostrheinischen Theilen des
hiesigen Regierungs-Bezirks, welche in Folge der Allerhöchsten
Cabinets-Ordre vom 31. Oktober v. J. festbestimmte und erbliche
Familiennamen angenommen und über die Annahme einen besonderen Ausweis
erhalten haben." Amts-Blatt der Königl. Regierung zu Coblenz. Beilage zum
Amtsblatt No. 42. Koblenz: 1846)

from a handwritten genealogy, I have a Samuel ROTHSCHILD who
was born in 1805 and migrated to New York 1839.
Here comes a better suggestion - what if the location was not "Wambach" but
"Wannbach"? In the small town of Wannbach near Forchheim in Upper Franconia
(Bavaria) there was indeed a Jewish family ROTHSCHILD living since before 1800.

In 1810 there were living in Wannbach in the "alte Judenschul" (old
prayerhouse) the blind Seligman Isaac [ROTHSCHILD], 1817 his widow (b. in
Kunreuth) and Jakob Hirsch ROTHSCHILD (b. in Wannbach) with wife Hanne.
(source: Jüdisches Leben in der Fränkischen Schweiz. Schriftenreihe des
Fränkische-Schweiz-Vereins "Die Fränkische Schweiz - Landschaft und
Kultur", 11. Erlangen: 1997)

Good luck with the further research. Have a happy Purim.

Kindest regards and Shalom,

Lars Menk Berlin, Germany Lmenk@...

MODERATOR NOTE: This is an example of Mr. Menk's amazingly thorough
research. See our archives for more details. MOD1


German SIG #Germany Re: Wambach, Germany and ROTHSCHILD #germany

Lars E. Menk <Lmenk@...>
 

On GerSig Debbie Raff wrote:

"I've got a genealogy question for you. I have a line that goes back to
Wambach, Bavaria (Germany).
There are in fact a number of locations named Wambach in Germany:

- Wambach, today to 65388 Schlangenbad in Hesse
- Wambach, today to 84416 Taufkirchen (Vils) in Bavaria
- Wambach, today to 84048 Mainburg in Bavaria
- Wambach, today to 79697 Wies (Schwarzwald) in Baden-Württemberg
- 57614 Ober-Wambach in Rheinland-Pfalz
- 57614 Nieder-Wambach in Rheinland-Pfalz

Only in Nieder-Wambach Jews were living in the 19th century, one family
GRUENEWALD in 1846.
(source: "Verzeichniss der jüdischen Familien und der einzelnen,
selbstständigen Juden und Jüdinnen in den ostrheinischen Theilen des
hiesigen Regierungs-Bezirks, welche in Folge der Allerhöchsten
Cabinets-Ordre vom 31. Oktober v. J. festbestimmte und erbliche
Familiennamen angenommen und über die Annahme einen besonderen Ausweis
erhalten haben." Amts-Blatt der Königl. Regierung zu Coblenz. Beilage zum
Amtsblatt No. 42. Koblenz: 1846)

from a handwritten genealogy, I have a Samuel ROTHSCHILD who
was born in 1805 and migrated to New York 1839.
Here comes a better suggestion - what if the location was not "Wambach" but
"Wannbach"? In the small town of Wannbach near Forchheim in Upper Franconia
(Bavaria) there was indeed a Jewish family ROTHSCHILD living since before 1800.

In 1810 there were living in Wannbach in the "alte Judenschul" (old
prayerhouse) the blind Seligman Isaac [ROTHSCHILD], 1817 his widow (b. in
Kunreuth) and Jakob Hirsch ROTHSCHILD (b. in Wannbach) with wife Hanne.
(source: Jüdisches Leben in der Fränkischen Schweiz. Schriftenreihe des
Fränkische-Schweiz-Vereins "Die Fränkische Schweiz - Landschaft und
Kultur", 11. Erlangen: 1997)

Good luck with the further research. Have a happy Purim.

Kindest regards and Shalom,

Lars Menk Berlin, Germany Lmenk@...

MODERATOR NOTE: This is an example of Mr. Menk's amazingly thorough
research. See our archives for more details. MOD1


Wambach, Germany and ROTHSCHILD #usa

Debbie Raff
 

I just received a message >from a cyber-friend, who is trying to find out
more about researching an ancestor.

It appears that this person emigrated >from Europe quite early, and she
isuncertain of the sources that may be available to her to continue her
search
into Europe. She is not Jewish, so, wrote asking me for help.

I am more familiar with the general resources and more specificially
researching in Poland. I did check for the town she mentioned in "The
Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust". I was unable
to find the town of Wambach mentioned.

I, also, searched for on the Family Finder for people, who were researching
ROTHSCHILD, but none are researching the surname for the town of Wambach.

I tried a search of "Wambach" on the JewishGen site, but the few hits I
received were not associated with a town in Germany.

So, if any of you are familiar with this town, or perhaps, an alternate name
used by the Jewish residents that would be helpful. Or, perhaps you can
guide me as to how she could approach her search. I have included her
message to me below.


"I've got a genealogy question for you. I have a line that goes back to
Wambach, Bavaria (Germany). >from a handwritten genealogy, I have a Samuel
Rothschild who was born in 1805 and migrated to New York 1839. I think it
is unlikely that I can go any further back. I'm not even sure there were
surnames before 1805.

If they had been Catholic, I think there might be a chance, but seeing as
how they were Jewish and the synagogue in that area was destroyed. I doubts
that there are any records to be researched. I had always been of the
impression that they fled because of relgiouspersecution and the family had
converted to Presbyterianism. This was true until about a year ago, when I
got in touch with a woman who was descended >from the oldest brother and that line
had remained Jewish." Thanks in advance,

Debbie Raff California Please, respond privately. <seraph@...>


Early American SIG #USA Wambach, Germany and ROTHSCHILD #usa

Debbie Raff
 

I just received a message >from a cyber-friend, who is trying to find out
more about researching an ancestor.

It appears that this person emigrated >from Europe quite early, and she
isuncertain of the sources that may be available to her to continue her
search
into Europe. She is not Jewish, so, wrote asking me for help.

I am more familiar with the general resources and more specificially
researching in Poland. I did check for the town she mentioned in "The
Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust". I was unable
to find the town of Wambach mentioned.

I, also, searched for on the Family Finder for people, who were researching
ROTHSCHILD, but none are researching the surname for the town of Wambach.

I tried a search of "Wambach" on the JewishGen site, but the few hits I
received were not associated with a town in Germany.

So, if any of you are familiar with this town, or perhaps, an alternate name
used by the Jewish residents that would be helpful. Or, perhaps you can
guide me as to how she could approach her search. I have included her
message to me below.


"I've got a genealogy question for you. I have a line that goes back to
Wambach, Bavaria (Germany). >from a handwritten genealogy, I have a Samuel
Rothschild who was born in 1805 and migrated to New York 1839. I think it
is unlikely that I can go any further back. I'm not even sure there were
surnames before 1805.

If they had been Catholic, I think there might be a chance, but seeing as
how they were Jewish and the synagogue in that area was destroyed. I doubts
that there are any records to be researched. I had always been of the
impression that they fled because of relgiouspersecution and the family had
converted to Presbyterianism. This was true until about a year ago, when I
got in touch with a woman who was descended >from the oldest brother and that line
had remained Jewish." Thanks in advance,

Debbie Raff California Please, respond privately. <seraph@...>