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Search Engine for finding people in the US #general

dianedaily1 <dianedaily1@...>
 

Intelius.com is a good resource for finding those unfindables.
It also may give you an idea of his/her age (Very Helpful Information).

Orinne Goldberg

GOLDBERG, BELOGORODSKY Kishiven
TZIPREZ Ukrain and Argentina
SILBERSTEIN FROOKS Nickolayev (by the sea)
MULLNER Poland
DAVIDOW<DAVIDOFF,DAVIDOVSKI (I think)Russia
IRA AUSWAKS (decendants of)related to MULLNER


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Search Engine for finding people in the US #general

dianedaily1 <dianedaily1@...>
 

Intelius.com is a good resource for finding those unfindables.
It also may give you an idea of his/her age (Very Helpful Information).

Orinne Goldberg

GOLDBERG, BELOGORODSKY Kishiven
TZIPREZ Ukrain and Argentina
SILBERSTEIN FROOKS Nickolayev (by the sea)
MULLNER Poland
DAVIDOW<DAVIDOFF,DAVIDOVSKI (I think)Russia
IRA AUSWAKS (decendants of)related to MULLNER


Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Interesting.

I just looked at this site and it showed, not the time when a person was it
the listed address, but their month and year of birth. Several, including
my entry, had nothing for that, and in a few cases the database had it
wrong. It was off by 20 years in the case of my sister.

Aside >from trying to list birthdates, I don't see anything that might be
troublesome here. However, it is noted that this is described as a Beta
site and will be on line until 31 March. Presumably it is continually
changing.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Stan Goodman" < SPAM_FOILER@... > wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard)opined:

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.
Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown. There is really nothing there that poses a risk of any
sort to anyone; that is not the way identities are stolen, for example. It
is, however, far more convenient than any of the online telephone
directories. It's a great addition to the available resources; thanks for
pointing it out.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Interesting.

I just looked at this site and it showed, not the time when a person was it
the listed address, but their month and year of birth. Several, including
my entry, had nothing for that, and in a few cases the database had it
wrong. It was off by 20 years in the case of my sister.

Aside >from trying to list birthdates, I don't see anything that might be
troublesome here. However, it is noted that this is described as a Beta
site and will be on line until 31 March. Presumably it is continually
changing.

--
Peter Zavon
Penfield, NY

"Stan Goodman" < SPAM_FOILER@... > wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard)opined:

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.
Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown. There is really nothing there that poses a risk of any
sort to anyone; that is not the way identities are stolen, for example. It
is, however, far more convenient than any of the online telephone
directories. It's a great addition to the available resources; thanks for
pointing it out.


Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Bev Potter
 

The month and year listed on the results page actually references the birth date of
the person listed, not the date at the address shown. I determined that by doing a
search of an old childhood friend whose birthdate I know.

Bev Potter
Boulder, Co.

<snip>

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard) opined:

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
Stan Goodman responded:

Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Bev Potter
 

The month and year listed on the results page actually references the birth date of
the person listed, not the date at the address shown. I determined that by doing a
search of an old childhood friend whose birthdate I know.

Bev Potter
Boulder, Co.

<snip>

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard) opined:

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
Stan Goodman responded:

Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown.


Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Thia Persoff
 

Shalom Richard and group,

First I want to thank Richard for sharing the information.
Second, I want to tell all of you that I have checked the search site for
members of my family. I found it and discovered quite a few mistakes,
misinformation, and wrong photos attached to people.
So beware!

Thia Persoff
Cambria, California.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" < birdpop@... >
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" < jewishgen@... >
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: Search Engine for finding people in the USA

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.

Richard Wenig
Show Low, Arizona


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Thia Persoff
 

Shalom Richard and group,

First I want to thank Richard for sharing the information.
Second, I want to tell all of you that I have checked the search site for
members of my family. I found it and discovered quite a few mistakes,
misinformation, and wrong photos attached to people.
So beware!

Thia Persoff
Cambria, California.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" < birdpop@... >
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" < jewishgen@... >
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:18 PM
Subject: Search Engine for finding people in the USA

I have just found the following search site.

http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line, but
it may assist some in trying to find family in the USA.

Richard Wenig
Show Low, Arizona


Re: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Elise
 

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard) opined:
I have just found the following search site.
http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line
And then Stan Goodman responded:
Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown.
Those dates are actually dates of birth. Also, some former addresses are
often listed for each individual -- you won't get this >from a standard phone
directory.

A similar online database is available through a popular commercial
genealogy company. It has an added feature -- it often shows the names and
ages of others who live at the same address. It's a separate and not
inexpensive subscription, but I choose to subscribe because I have found
this type of database to be highly effective for locating and contacting
living distant cousins who I've been unable to locate by any other means.

Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland

KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS, SCHENDEROWITZ, EMBER (Makow Maz./Przasnysz, Poland);
EISNER, TAUB, WAHRHAFTIG, TUNIS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER/MEHLER, TAUB (Byblo/Staryy Sambor/Nizankowice/Dobromil, Ukraine);
PALEVSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN, DAITCH, GRUSHEWSKY (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIFSHITZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus);
CHESIN, EHUDIN (Mstislavl, Belarus); CHERNOCK, EPSTEIN (Novozybkov, Russia)


Kalman GARBER #rabbinic

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

I am looking for a Kalman GARBER that would have a
daughter Reizel born around 1850. He could have been a
Rabbi and possibly lived near Mariampol or Keidan.

Yehudah ben Shlomo
Fort Worth, Texas


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Search Engine for finding people in the USA #general

Elise
 

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 18:15:17 UTC, birdpop@... (Richard) opined:
I have just found the following search site.
http://www.zabasearch.com/
In my opinion it gives to much information that should not be on line
And then Stan Goodman responded:
Actually, the only thing it seems to give that one cannot find in any number
of online telephone directories is the time at which the given person was at
the address shown.
Those dates are actually dates of birth. Also, some former addresses are
often listed for each individual -- you won't get this >from a standard phone
directory.

A similar online database is available through a popular commercial
genealogy company. It has an added feature -- it often shows the names and
ages of others who live at the same address. It's a separate and not
inexpensive subscription, but I choose to subscribe because I have found
this type of database to be highly effective for locating and contacting
living distant cousins who I've been unable to locate by any other means.

Elise Friedman
Baltimore, Maryland

KMIOTEK/FRIEDMAN/LEWIS, SCHENDEROWITZ, EMBER (Makow Maz./Przasnysz, Poland);
EISNER, TAUB, WAHRHAFTIG, TUNIS (Myszkowice/Tarnopol, Ukraine);
MILLER/MEHLER, TAUB (Byblo/Staryy Sambor/Nizankowice/Dobromil, Ukraine);
PALEVSKY, POLLACK, DUBIN, DAITCH, GRUSHEWSKY (Horodetz/Kobryn, Belarus);
LIFSHITZ (Brest-Litovsk, Belarus);
CHESIN, EHUDIN (Mstislavl, Belarus); CHERNOCK, EPSTEIN (Novozybkov, Russia)


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Kalman GARBER #rabbinic

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

I am looking for a Kalman GARBER that would have a
daughter Reizel born around 1850. He could have been a
Rabbi and possibly lived near Mariampol or Keidan.

Yehudah ben Shlomo
Fort Worth, Texas


LEVELLIER #france

William R. Alschuler <walschulr@...>
 

Dear Ms. Jermyn:

You might try going to Infobel.com, click on France, and then on the next
screen click on "pages blanches," the France Telecom white pages. You will
get a screen that asks for name and location. You will need the city and
departement and or zip code. There are button guides on the screen to help,
or a good map >from Michelen will do it. There are no guaranties, of course,
but I would start in Paris, based on your info. If they married, then it
will be tough. I did a name search once in every departement in France
without much difficulty.

Yours,

Bill Alschuler


MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to include your place of
residence in all notes. Thank You!


French SIG #France LEVELLIER #france

William R. Alschuler <walschulr@...>
 

Dear Ms. Jermyn:

You might try going to Infobel.com, click on France, and then on the next
screen click on "pages blanches," the France Telecom white pages. You will
get a screen that asks for name and location. You will need the city and
departement and or zip code. There are button guides on the screen to help,
or a good map >from Michelen will do it. There are no guaranties, of course,
but I would start in Paris, based on your info. If they married, then it
will be tough. I did a name search once in every departement in France
without much difficulty.

Yours,

Bill Alschuler


MODERATOR NOTE: Please remember to include your place of
residence in all notes. Thank You!


Kalman Garber #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

I am looking for a Kalman GARBER that would have a
daughter Reizel born around 1850. He could have been a
Rabbi and possibly lived near Mariampol or Keidan.

Yehudah ben Shlomo
Fort Worth, Texas

MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the
JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more
and more frequently. If you have not already done so, please log
onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter
and register all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you
learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but
only **you** can keep your own listings up to date


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kalman Garber #general

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

I am looking for a Kalman GARBER that would have a
daughter Reizel born around 1850. He could have been a
Rabbi and possibly lived near Mariampol or Keidan.

Yehudah ben Shlomo
Fort Worth, Texas

MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the
JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF) and family connections are being made more
and more frequently. If you have not already done so, please log
onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the ENTER/MODIFY procedure enter
and register all the surnames of interest to your family research. As you
learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but
only **you** can keep your own listings up to date


Jewiish traditions in Italy #germany

MBernet@...
 

In some recent postings I had mentioned the fact that Ashkenazi customs and
ritual predominated in Northern Italy. A number of people have written to
ask me about the various rituals/customs in Italy

This is far >from a field of expertise for me, but I've learned in recent years
that:
1. the Kalonymos family >from Italy laid the basis of Judaism in what was
then Ashkenaz, on the Yerushalmi (Palestinnian) tradition that was then current
in Italy
2. the basic tradition in Italy, dating to the first two centuries BCE was
known as Romani and was the same tradition as then (and for many centuries
later) was common in Greece
3. the Sephardi ritual came to Italy after 1492
4. Northern Italy preserved the Ashkenazi ritual (and was home to many
Ashkenazi rabbis and scholars) into the 19th century
5. Piedmont had its own traditions based on the Provencal.

That's about all I know. There are many sources on the history and culture
of Italian Jewry, such as Jewish encyclopedias and googling, which would
provide more comprehensive information

Michael Bernet, New York

MOD NOTE: Knowing that Jews in a given place at a given time followed Ashkenazi
ritual and traditions rather than Sephardi can be helpful in genealogy research.
For example, Sephardi Jews often named children after living relatives. This
usually not done in places observing Ashkenazi traditions.

Discussion of how such traditional differences can be used to help family research
is appropriate for this Forum. Debate about Mr. Bernet's historical points
must be conducted off-list. Mr. Bernet will later post any important corrections
or additons. MOD1


German SIG #Germany Jewiish traditions in Italy #germany

MBernet@...
 

In some recent postings I had mentioned the fact that Ashkenazi customs and
ritual predominated in Northern Italy. A number of people have written to
ask me about the various rituals/customs in Italy

This is far >from a field of expertise for me, but I've learned in recent years
that:
1. the Kalonymos family >from Italy laid the basis of Judaism in what was
then Ashkenaz, on the Yerushalmi (Palestinnian) tradition that was then current
in Italy
2. the basic tradition in Italy, dating to the first two centuries BCE was
known as Romani and was the same tradition as then (and for many centuries
later) was common in Greece
3. the Sephardi ritual came to Italy after 1492
4. Northern Italy preserved the Ashkenazi ritual (and was home to many
Ashkenazi rabbis and scholars) into the 19th century
5. Piedmont had its own traditions based on the Provencal.

That's about all I know. There are many sources on the history and culture
of Italian Jewry, such as Jewish encyclopedias and googling, which would
provide more comprehensive information

Michael Bernet, New York

MOD NOTE: Knowing that Jews in a given place at a given time followed Ashkenazi
ritual and traditions rather than Sephardi can be helpful in genealogy research.
For example, Sephardi Jews often named children after living relatives. This
usually not done in places observing Ashkenazi traditions.

Discussion of how such traditional differences can be used to help family research
is appropriate for this Forum. Debate about Mr. Bernet's historical points
must be conducted off-list. Mr. Bernet will later post any important corrections
or additons. MOD1


Wambach, Germany and ROTHSCHILD #germany

Debbie Raff
 

I just received a message >from a cyber-friend, who is trying to find out
more about researching an ancestor.

It appears that this person emigrated >from Europe quite early, and she is
uncertain of the sources that may be available to her to continue her search
into Europe. She is not Jewish, so, wrote asking me for help.

I am more familiar with the general resources and more specificially
researching in Poland. I did check for the town she mentioned in "The
Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust". I was unable
to find the town of Wambach mentioned.

I, also, searched on the Family Finder for people, who were researching
ROTHSCHILD, but none are researching the surname for the town of Wambach.

I tried a search of "Wambach" on the JewishGen site, but the few hits I
received were not associated with a town in Germany.

So, if any of you are familiar with this town, or perhaps, an alternate name
used by the Jewish residents that would be helpful. Or, perhaps you can
guide me as to how we could approach her search. I have included her
message to me below.

MODERATOR NOTE: We usually do not post messages >from non-members since anyone
can join GerSIG and post his own inquiries. In this case our member and the
non-member are working together. Also, I found the non-member's letter (below)
interesting. For example: "The synagogue was burned so I doubt that there are any
records to be researched" Ms. Raff might direct her friend to the GerSIG
Website where the advice below *** appears on our home page. MOD1

"I've got a genealogy question for you. I have a line that goes back to
Wambach, Bavaria (Germany). >from a handwritten genealogy, I have a Samuel
ROTHSCHILD who was born in 1805 and migrated to New York 1839. I think it
is unlikely that I can go any further back. I'm not even sure there were
surnames before 1805.

If they had been Catholic, I think there might be a chance, but seeing as how
they were Jewish and the synagogue in that area was destroyed. I doubt that there
are any records to be researched. I had always been of the impression that they
fled because of relgious prosecution and the family had converted to
Presbyterianism. This was true until about a year ago, when I got in touch with
a woman who was descended >from the oldest brother and that line had remained
Jewish." Please, respond privately. Thanks in advance, <seraph@...>

Debbie Raff (town????) California <seraph@...>

***Germans were great record-keepers, and the information about Jews and their
communities go back many hundreds of years. Furthermore, since the Holocaust,
many non-Jewish Germans have been motivated to assemble, organize and report on
the Jewish history and genealogy of their communities. There is a wealth of
information available to German Jewish genealogists; the challenge is where to
find it. From: http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/


German SIG #Germany Wambach, Germany and ROTHSCHILD #germany

Debbie Raff
 

I just received a message >from a cyber-friend, who is trying to find out
more about researching an ancestor.

It appears that this person emigrated >from Europe quite early, and she is
uncertain of the sources that may be available to her to continue her search
into Europe. She is not Jewish, so, wrote asking me for help.

I am more familiar with the general resources and more specificially
researching in Poland. I did check for the town she mentioned in "The
Encyclopedia of Jewish Life Before and During the Holocaust". I was unable
to find the town of Wambach mentioned.

I, also, searched on the Family Finder for people, who were researching
ROTHSCHILD, but none are researching the surname for the town of Wambach.

I tried a search of "Wambach" on the JewishGen site, but the few hits I
received were not associated with a town in Germany.

So, if any of you are familiar with this town, or perhaps, an alternate name
used by the Jewish residents that would be helpful. Or, perhaps you can
guide me as to how we could approach her search. I have included her
message to me below.

MODERATOR NOTE: We usually do not post messages >from non-members since anyone
can join GerSIG and post his own inquiries. In this case our member and the
non-member are working together. Also, I found the non-member's letter (below)
interesting. For example: "The synagogue was burned so I doubt that there are any
records to be researched" Ms. Raff might direct her friend to the GerSIG
Website where the advice below *** appears on our home page. MOD1

"I've got a genealogy question for you. I have a line that goes back to
Wambach, Bavaria (Germany). >from a handwritten genealogy, I have a Samuel
ROTHSCHILD who was born in 1805 and migrated to New York 1839. I think it
is unlikely that I can go any further back. I'm not even sure there were
surnames before 1805.

If they had been Catholic, I think there might be a chance, but seeing as how
they were Jewish and the synagogue in that area was destroyed. I doubt that there
are any records to be researched. I had always been of the impression that they
fled because of relgious prosecution and the family had converted to
Presbyterianism. This was true until about a year ago, when I got in touch with
a woman who was descended >from the oldest brother and that line had remained
Jewish." Please, respond privately. Thanks in advance, <seraph@...>

Debbie Raff (town????) California <seraph@...>

***Germans were great record-keepers, and the information about Jews and their
communities go back many hundreds of years. Furthermore, since the Holocaust,
many non-Jewish Germans have been motivated to assemble, organize and report on
the Jewish history and genealogy of their communities. There is a wealth of
information available to German Jewish genealogists; the challenge is where to
find it. From: http://www.jewishgen.org/GerSIG/