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Re: Hunter College Medals #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Barbara Mannlein wrote:

<<In 1892, Julia DAVIS, my husband's grandmother, was presented with the
"Prof. Von Swarthout Medal" . In 1895, she was awarded the "Libbie Van
Arsdale Memorial Prize." Both medals were given by what was then known as
the Thomas Hunter Normal School (now Hunter College) in New York City Julia
graduated >from the Normal School in 1898. My mother-in-law ,who passes her
mother's medals on, was not sure for what they were given. She thought that
the Van Arsdale was given for accomplishments in music.>>

A quick search on the ProQuest New York Times Historical database yielded
many articles about this school, founded in 1870, and these
awards--including two in which Barbara's husband's grandmother, Julia Davis,
was mentioned by name.

The article dated February 12, l983 headlined: "Young Women Who Have
Finished Normal College Work" and listed Julia as a "Freshman Normal" who
had obtained a 95 percent average.

And in an article dated June 21, 1895 with the headline:

"Prepared Now to Teach - Young Women Who Have Finished Normal College Work -
Over Three Hundred Graduate," towards the bottom of the left column it
reads:

"The Prizes in the academic department were: The Libbie Van Arsdale Prize
for Progress in Music to Julia Davis." It then goes on to list a mulitude
of prizes in Latin, German, French, etc., including monetary awards and
several gold watches!

This is just another oppotunity to remind everyone of the rich resource
scanned and digitized newspapers are for the genealogist. The Normal School
graduated hundreds of young Jewish women over so many years, that it's
likely that many more JewishGenners grandmothers and great-grandmothers'
names appear in articles concerning this school and others, as the names of
graduates were routinely listed in The New York TImes. One charming
headline read: "Want to be Schoolmarms."

As for:

<<I wrote to Hunter College and never even received any answer.>>

I've had great success getting copies of my grandfather's college
transcripts >from both Cooper Union (1912-15) and Brooklyn Polytechnical
Institute (1918-1919). In the case of Cooper Union I visited the
registrar's office in person and was given a form to fill out for a
transcript request, and for Brooklyn Polytech I phoned their registrar's
office, learned that they access these old archives off-site, was told the
fee and information required, and two weeks after mailing in the request I
had my grandfather's entire file. This included not only his grades for
attending night school there, but a high school record for the one year
1911-1912 he spent at Stuyvesant High School (something I was not aware of),
and letters and telegrams >from the W.P.A in 1938 requesting the Polytech
write to confirm that he had graduated >from their institution before they
would appoint him to a job. His transcripts listed several home and business
addresses that were also helpful in furthering my research.

So, yes...it is definitely worth trying to obtain these educational records.
Call Hunter College again, and ask to speak to the office that issues
transcripts or has knowledge of where old records are kept. If records >from
the 1890s don't exist, they will tell you, and if these records do exist,
inquire about the fee to get copies and the procedure you need to follow.
Getting to the right person, by phone, is essential. Don't give up!

You should also continue searching through the New York Times database,
using such keywords as: "Julia Davis," "Normal School," along with the names
of the medals she received, and you are sure to turn up much more
information about her. Remember that most public libraries offer access to
these databases free of charge on site, or through remote access with a
card, as do universities. Consult your local branches for details.

Good luck!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Hunter College Medals #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Barbara Mannlein wrote:

<<In 1892, Julia DAVIS, my husband's grandmother, was presented with the
"Prof. Von Swarthout Medal" . In 1895, she was awarded the "Libbie Van
Arsdale Memorial Prize." Both medals were given by what was then known as
the Thomas Hunter Normal School (now Hunter College) in New York City Julia
graduated >from the Normal School in 1898. My mother-in-law ,who passes her
mother's medals on, was not sure for what they were given. She thought that
the Van Arsdale was given for accomplishments in music.>>

A quick search on the ProQuest New York Times Historical database yielded
many articles about this school, founded in 1870, and these
awards--including two in which Barbara's husband's grandmother, Julia Davis,
was mentioned by name.

The article dated February 12, l983 headlined: "Young Women Who Have
Finished Normal College Work" and listed Julia as a "Freshman Normal" who
had obtained a 95 percent average.

And in an article dated June 21, 1895 with the headline:

"Prepared Now to Teach - Young Women Who Have Finished Normal College Work -
Over Three Hundred Graduate," towards the bottom of the left column it
reads:

"The Prizes in the academic department were: The Libbie Van Arsdale Prize
for Progress in Music to Julia Davis." It then goes on to list a mulitude
of prizes in Latin, German, French, etc., including monetary awards and
several gold watches!

This is just another oppotunity to remind everyone of the rich resource
scanned and digitized newspapers are for the genealogist. The Normal School
graduated hundreds of young Jewish women over so many years, that it's
likely that many more JewishGenners grandmothers and great-grandmothers'
names appear in articles concerning this school and others, as the names of
graduates were routinely listed in The New York TImes. One charming
headline read: "Want to be Schoolmarms."

As for:

<<I wrote to Hunter College and never even received any answer.>>

I've had great success getting copies of my grandfather's college
transcripts >from both Cooper Union (1912-15) and Brooklyn Polytechnical
Institute (1918-1919). In the case of Cooper Union I visited the
registrar's office in person and was given a form to fill out for a
transcript request, and for Brooklyn Polytech I phoned their registrar's
office, learned that they access these old archives off-site, was told the
fee and information required, and two weeks after mailing in the request I
had my grandfather's entire file. This included not only his grades for
attending night school there, but a high school record for the one year
1911-1912 he spent at Stuyvesant High School (something I was not aware of),
and letters and telegrams >from the W.P.A in 1938 requesting the Polytech
write to confirm that he had graduated >from their institution before they
would appoint him to a job. His transcripts listed several home and business
addresses that were also helpful in furthering my research.

So, yes...it is definitely worth trying to obtain these educational records.
Call Hunter College again, and ask to speak to the office that issues
transcripts or has knowledge of where old records are kept. If records >from
the 1890s don't exist, they will tell you, and if these records do exist,
inquire about the fee to get copies and the procedure you need to follow.
Getting to the right person, by phone, is essential. Don't give up!

You should also continue searching through the New York Times database,
using such keywords as: "Julia Davis," "Normal School," along with the names
of the medals she received, and you are sure to turn up much more
information about her. Remember that most public libraries offer access to
these databases free of charge on site, or through remote access with a
card, as do universities. Consult your local branches for details.

Good luck!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Sadly, it happens to too many of us. Recently a genner asked me about
Gelfand and Katz saying she had those two names in her tree....so I
sent what I had....never a reply, never yes we have a connection, no
we don't, absolutely nothing. I sent her another email checking to
see if she had received the information...no answer to that either.

Will her lack of response stop me >from responding to others? Not at all.
Hope springs eternal and maybe one day someone to whom I send family info
will respond with a positive connection. Same applies to providing how-to
info or finding something for somebody. Do unto others...equals random
acts of genealogical kindness.

Requesting a read receipt is not always returned as there is the ability
to refuse to send one.

Happily, I can say that most other genners are courteous and thankful for
whatever help I've been able to provide. Not only that, but it has ended
up with some new email friends whom I hope to meet in Las Vegas as well as
other email friends throughout the world.

Regards,
Joanie
Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine,
Bronx and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The Lack of Common Courtesy and how it affects the Usefulness of this Forum #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Sadly, it happens to too many of us. Recently a genner asked me about
Gelfand and Katz saying she had those two names in her tree....so I
sent what I had....never a reply, never yes we have a connection, no
we don't, absolutely nothing. I sent her another email checking to
see if she had received the information...no answer to that either.

Will her lack of response stop me >from responding to others? Not at all.
Hope springs eternal and maybe one day someone to whom I send family info
will respond with a positive connection. Same applies to providing how-to
info or finding something for somebody. Do unto others...equals random
acts of genealogical kindness.

Requesting a read receipt is not always returned as there is the ability
to refuse to send one.

Happily, I can say that most other genners are courteous and thankful for
whatever help I've been able to provide. Not only that, but it has ended
up with some new email friends whom I hope to meet in Las Vegas as well as
other email friends throughout the world.

Regards,
Joanie
Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine,
Bronx and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


Forensic Genealogy Firm #general

jewishgen@juno.com <jewishgen@...>
 

I found an obituary re: the founder of a forensic genealogy firm
posted at http://www.startribune.com/stories/466/5411780.html. Hope
you find the deceased's work as interesting as I do.

Stacy Harris
Nashville, TN
USA


Anyone know Researcher interested in BIRCHANSKI from Odessa? #general

Barry E Chernick
 

I have been trying to contact researcher #61221 who is interested in
BIRCHANSKI, >from Odessa. If anyone knows who this might be please
contact me privately. Yes I have tried the Lost and Found.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA
BERCHANSKY (various spellings) - Bobrynets, Odessa, Winnipeg, New York,
Washington, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Forensic Genealogy Firm #general

jewishgen@juno.com <jewishgen@...>
 

I found an obituary re: the founder of a forensic genealogy firm
posted at http://www.startribune.com/stories/466/5411780.html. Hope
you find the deceased's work as interesting as I do.

Stacy Harris
Nashville, TN
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Anyone know Researcher interested in BIRCHANSKI from Odessa? #general

Barry E Chernick
 

I have been trying to contact researcher #61221 who is interested in
BIRCHANSKI, >from Odessa. If anyone knows who this might be please
contact me privately. Yes I have tried the Lost and Found.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA
BERCHANSKY (various spellings) - Bobrynets, Odessa, Winnipeg, New York,
Washington, California


Origin of name Dacha #general

Judy Lab <judylab1@...>
 

I work for a funeral business and we get frequent calls >from people who want
information or more background on a Hebrew or Yiddish name.

A call this week was >from a young man whose mother's name was Dacha Chanal.
This name is not just >from his memory as it was also listed in our archives.

We are fortunate to have Rabbi Benzion Kaganoff living in Chicago and he and
I both think the name is of Polish origin and that Chanal is a double
diminutive of Chana, which became Chanele and then Chanal.

Has anyone else heard of this name? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Judith F. Labowitz
Skokie, IL

Researching: LEBOWITZ -- all spellings, MANDEL, BURGEMAN.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Origin of name Dacha #general

Judy Lab <judylab1@...>
 

I work for a funeral business and we get frequent calls >from people who want
information or more background on a Hebrew or Yiddish name.

A call this week was >from a young man whose mother's name was Dacha Chanal.
This name is not just >from his memory as it was also listed in our archives.

We are fortunate to have Rabbi Benzion Kaganoff living in Chicago and he and
I both think the name is of Polish origin and that Chanal is a double
diminutive of Chana, which became Chanele and then Chanal.

Has anyone else heard of this name? Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Judith F. Labowitz
Skokie, IL

Researching: LEBOWITZ -- all spellings, MANDEL, BURGEMAN.


1930 WISOTSKY Family, Bronx NY, looking for family members. #general

B. Lieberman <new_york_searcher@...>
 

Hi list:

I am searching a Family 1930 Bronx NY, what I know so far is this and
putting this to cyber space today:

I need to know, what is my best plan to try to find any living members
of this one family I have begun a small search so far. I have searched
this last name for many years, and much again over the last two years I
never seen this record till a week ago, it was not on [name of commercial
genealogy website deleted --Mod.] in the last two years I have looked ,I
do not know why it appears now? but its a Family I think I am looking for
now.

There is a Bronx 1941 Petition record for a Anna Wisotsky,
and I am hoping its the right one with a picture of her!.

506 Tinton ave, Bronx, April 21 1930 - District 501-750, Sheet 17-B,
Seems the entire Family was 1908 na

Charles Wisotsky 63 Wid 1908 Na

David Wisotsky 32 Russian, 1908 na Printer

Anna H. Wisotsky 33 ( Film Studios) 1908 na, [ She would be been 11 in
1908 ] Cant find her on Ellis Island

Rose 30/ Russian
Ben 28 / mechanic/ Russian
Abraham 26 Salesmen clothing/Russian
Alice 21 / dress maker/ Russian
Sofie ( sister) 37 wid/ 20/ Russia
Isadore (1915 ) 15 / New York / School

( I think this is wrong, as there is a Isadore M. Wisotsky on Rootsweb
born 1918 and he would of been 14 in 1932 >from Notes and info I am going
from) I have been looking for a Wisotsky born in 1913 but I think the 3
may of been a 8 in stead.

living next door was a Max & Millie Scher, and daughter Estelle, I found
out that in 1910, there was a Sam Scher living at 220 East 109th St,
E. 109th St Manhattan has been coming up with Families in my search
related to me; it is my Thoughts David Wisotsky lived in the 300 block
of East 109th also in 1910, but I cant prove this yet.

#2) A question I have is When people Ferry over >from port Morris to
Queens where would the most likely place have been to do this >from the
Mott Heaven area of the Bronx?.

#3) Film Studios, would anyone know if this meant Motion picture or
still camera?

#4) Families I have been looking at Connect to Cigar makers and Motion
Picture Film Studios both in New York, Saint John New Brunswick Canada,
Montreal Canada.

Thank you all!

Regards
Brett Lieberman
Vancouver Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1930 WISOTSKY Family, Bronx NY, looking for family members. #general

B. Lieberman <new_york_searcher@...>
 

Hi list:

I am searching a Family 1930 Bronx NY, what I know so far is this and
putting this to cyber space today:

I need to know, what is my best plan to try to find any living members
of this one family I have begun a small search so far. I have searched
this last name for many years, and much again over the last two years I
never seen this record till a week ago, it was not on [name of commercial
genealogy website deleted --Mod.] in the last two years I have looked ,I
do not know why it appears now? but its a Family I think I am looking for
now.

There is a Bronx 1941 Petition record for a Anna Wisotsky,
and I am hoping its the right one with a picture of her!.

506 Tinton ave, Bronx, April 21 1930 - District 501-750, Sheet 17-B,
Seems the entire Family was 1908 na

Charles Wisotsky 63 Wid 1908 Na

David Wisotsky 32 Russian, 1908 na Printer

Anna H. Wisotsky 33 ( Film Studios) 1908 na, [ She would be been 11 in
1908 ] Cant find her on Ellis Island

Rose 30/ Russian
Ben 28 / mechanic/ Russian
Abraham 26 Salesmen clothing/Russian
Alice 21 / dress maker/ Russian
Sofie ( sister) 37 wid/ 20/ Russia
Isadore (1915 ) 15 / New York / School

( I think this is wrong, as there is a Isadore M. Wisotsky on Rootsweb
born 1918 and he would of been 14 in 1932 >from Notes and info I am going
from) I have been looking for a Wisotsky born in 1913 but I think the 3
may of been a 8 in stead.

living next door was a Max & Millie Scher, and daughter Estelle, I found
out that in 1910, there was a Sam Scher living at 220 East 109th St,
E. 109th St Manhattan has been coming up with Families in my search
related to me; it is my Thoughts David Wisotsky lived in the 300 block
of East 109th also in 1910, but I cant prove this yet.

#2) A question I have is When people Ferry over >from port Morris to
Queens where would the most likely place have been to do this >from the
Mott Heaven area of the Bronx?.

#3) Film Studios, would anyone know if this meant Motion picture or
still camera?

#4) Families I have been looking at Connect to Cigar makers and Motion
Picture Film Studios both in New York, Saint John New Brunswick Canada,
Montreal Canada.

Thank you all!

Regards
Brett Lieberman
Vancouver Canada


1870 New York Wards and Election Districts #general

Marian Brown
 

Help!

Does anyone know how to find the streets located in Ward 19, Election
District 14, for New York City in 1870. I have the census record but I
want to locate the area. I've searched extensively on the internet with
little success.

Thanks,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 1870 New York Wards and Election Districts #general

Marian Brown
 

Help!

Does anyone know how to find the streets located in Ward 19, Election
District 14, for New York City in 1870. I have the census record but I
want to locate the area. I've searched extensively on the internet with
little success.

Thanks,

Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH


Re: Designation of unmarried partners #unitedkingdom

Naomi Fellerman <nfellerman@...>
 

I want to thank everyone for their comments on this subject, I feel
personally that it is important to record relationships that are
marriages in all but name even if there are no children involved. The
partners do effectively become part of each others families, and imagine
future generations looking at photos asking "Who's that with Aunt/Uncle
....?" and no-one knowing even if they had spent 20 or more years
together. I will be looking at changing the software I use to one that
allows me to add "partners".

Regards to all

Naomi Fellerman


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Designation of unmarried partners #unitedkingdom

Naomi Fellerman <nfellerman@...>
 

I want to thank everyone for their comments on this subject, I feel
personally that it is important to record relationships that are
marriages in all but name even if there are no children involved. The
partners do effectively become part of each others families, and imagine
future generations looking at photos asking "Who's that with Aunt/Uncle
....?" and no-one knowing even if they had spent 20 or more years
together. I will be looking at changing the software I use to one that
allows me to add "partners".

Regards to all

Naomi Fellerman


Re: latvia digest: May 09, 2005 #latvia

Avi Lishower <lishower@...>
 

Dear friend
I am looking for the e-mail address for the genealogical researcher
Alexander Faigamanis

Thanking you in advance
Avi Lishower

MODERATOR:
His e-mail address is: aleksgen@lycos.com
His website is found at: http://www.balticgen.com/


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: latvia digest: May 09, 2005 #latvia

Avi Lishower <lishower@...>
 

Dear friend
I am looking for the e-mail address for the genealogical researcher
Alexander Faigamanis

Thanking you in advance
Avi Lishower

MODERATOR:
His e-mail address is: aleksgen@lycos.com
His website is found at: http://www.balticgen.com/


Re: latvia digest: May 19, 2005 #latvia

menachem sella <sella@...>
 

When and where is the latvia luncheon scheduled?
Menachem Sella
<sella@netvision.net.il>

MODERATOR:
----------
For information on the Conference go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005
and for specific information about luncheons and presentations:
http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/planner.htm


Searching ZURNOVSKY BOGOSLAVSKY #ukraine

MariaPaz.RIVERA@...
 

I am new to this group, and am anxious to learn anything
about life in Chernigov at the begining of 1900.
I am searching for some information about my maternal family from
Chernigov/Ukraine, this is the information I have

My grandfather Nokhim Salomon ZURNOVSKY BOGOSLAVSKY, born in Chernigov =
on
25 december, around
1894 and 1896, he had nine sisters and brothers (Liova, David, Boris,
Misha, =D1u=F1a, Dvoira, Jifim, ?)
When my grandfather came to Argentina in 1924 from
Napoles, Italy they changed his surname to ZURNOVSKY, because of the
translation.
He always told me that his surname was Yagurnovsky.
He lost contact with his family around 1933/34 and he never hear >from t=
hem
again.
He mouved to Chile, married and had 2 children, one of them is my mothe=
r.

In Russia,my grandfather was recruited at the pre revolution time. Beca=
use
or his education, he was in charge of a border military post between Po=
lony
and Ukraine ( where ?) where he allowed many jewish to escape.
My question is, does anyone know where can I find the military records=
to
verify this?

My great grandfathers were:
Zakhar Zurnovsky born probably around 1855, and died around 1926 in
Chernigov and he was a very religious jewish. I supposed he was Chassid=
im.
How can I find iformation about this?
Married Frada Bogoslavsky Abarbanel, where /when ?
born probably around 1860 and died around 1933 in Chernigov
She was a Landsurveyor.

I would appreciate anyone who has any information on this
family to contact me.
Please response to me, directly - not to the list.

Thank you!

Mar=EDa Paz Rivera Zurnovsky
Santiago, Chile
mariapaz.rivera@cepal.org=