Max Michelson <maxmich@...>
Dear Pavel,
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This is wonderful information. Where are the Central Archives of the History of the Jewish People physically located? How can I actually see the lists? I am particularly interested in the lists >from Courland. The Courland merchants list, and the Agricultural colonists >from Courland. Max Michelson. Researching MICHELSON & HIRSCHFELD >from Coulrand and Riga.
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From: "Pavel Bernshtam" <javaap@gmail.com> To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: [courland] Jewish People History archive holdings Dear, genners! I have visited again The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People and here is the list of Ukraine, Belarus and Courland related documents, I have found this time. ------------------------------------------------- [...List of documents...] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Pavel Bernshtam email: javaap@gmail.com
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Viewmate 5986: help reading death record
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Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
dear Genners,
I would like to get help reading this death Record. I can not read part of the marked area. http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5986 Kind regards Fred Zimmak
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Max Michelson <maxmich@...>
Dear Pavel,
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This is wonderful information. Where are the Central Archives of the History of the Jewish People physically located? How can I actually see the lists? I am particularly interested in the lists >from Courland. The Courland merchants list, and the Agricultural colonists >from Courland. Max Michelson. Researching MICHELSON & HIRSCHFELD >from Coulrand and Riga.
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From: "Pavel Bernshtam" <javaap@gmail.com> To: "Courland Area Research Group" <courland@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:24 AM Subject: [courland] Jewish People History archive holdings Dear, genners! I have visited again The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People and here is the list of Ukraine, Belarus and Courland related documents, I have found this time. ------------------------------------------------- [...List of documents...] -------------------------------------------------------------------- Pavel Bernshtam email: javaap@gmail.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 5986: help reading death record
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Fred Zimmak <Fred.Zimmak@...>
dear Genners,
I would like to get help reading this death Record. I can not read part of the marked area. http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5986 Kind regards Fred Zimmak
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Re: Shoah- new Dutch website
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Max & Bertha van Dam <berthavd@...>
Dear Genners,
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As is written below, there is a new dutch website http://www.joodsmonument.nl/ . It looks very good, but mind there are a lot of mistakes on it. You must somehow double check the data. I have found for instance, that they say the husband survived. The husband had died in 1942 in Amsterdam! Sometimes they don't have a family complete, for instance the mother with a child and on the same address the father with another child. Data, names and family relations are not always correct. Yours Bertha van Dam Rechovot Israel Researching the following Dutch families: BROMET(Worldwide); CONEN; CRACAU; DOOF; HAMMELBURG; LOONSTEIN; NABARRO, (Holland and England); SOESTER; SWAAP; TRIJBETS/TRIJBETZ/TRIJBITZ; VAN CLEEF/VAN KLEEF; VAN DAM; and some other Dutch Families
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From: "Irene" <mimosa@saber.net> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:46 PM Hello Genners I have been going through the new dutch website http://www.joodsmonument.nl/article.php?thg_id=1005.72&lang=nl
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Shoah- new Dutch website
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Max & Bertha van Dam <berthavd@...>
Dear Genners,
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As is written below, there is a new dutch website http://www.joodsmonument.nl/ . It looks very good, but mind there are a lot of mistakes on it. You must somehow double check the data. I have found for instance, that they say the husband survived. The husband had died in 1942 in Amsterdam! Sometimes they don't have a family complete, for instance the mother with a child and on the same address the father with another child. Data, names and family relations are not always correct. Yours Bertha van Dam Rechovot Israel Researching the following Dutch families: BROMET(Worldwide); CONEN; CRACAU; DOOF; HAMMELBURG; LOONSTEIN; NABARRO, (Holland and England); SOESTER; SWAAP; TRIJBETS/TRIJBETZ/TRIJBITZ; VAN CLEEF/VAN KLEEF; VAN DAM; and some other Dutch Families
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From: "Irene" <mimosa@saber.net> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 9:46 PM Hello Genners I have been going through the new dutch website http://www.joodsmonument.nl/article.php?thg_id=1005.72&lang=nl
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Joyce Field
Because of the Pesach holiday, April 2005 was a "short" month and our
production reflects that. One new book and 14 updated books went online. All translations can be accessed at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html and the current additions have been flagged to make the search easier. I would like to remind all new researchers that you can find whether a yizkor book has been written about a particular town at the Yizkor Book Database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You can search the Necrology Index at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/yizkor/. Our index to this database says the following: "The JewishGen Yizkor Book Necrology Database indexes the names of persons in the necrologies -- the lists of Holocaust martyrs -- published in the Yizkor Books appearing on the JewishGen Yizkor Book Translation Project. This database is only an index of names; it directs researchers back to the Yizkor Book itself, where more complete information may be available. This database allows the surnames to be searched via soundex. Because most of these names were transliterated >from Hebrew and Yiddish, the spellings of the surnames may not be as you are used to seeing them in Latin-alphabet sources." This database currently contains over 165,000 entries >from the necrologies of 177 different yizkor books. Remember that not all yizkor books have necrologies. New book: "With a rifle in my hand and Eretz Israel in my heart" by Dov Levin, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/dovlevin1/dovlevin1.html. Updated books: -Belchatow, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html -Belchatow, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow_ann/Belchatow_ann.html -Bolekhov, Ukraine -Brest, Belarus, volume 2 -Bukowina book -Chelm, Poland -Czestochowa, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Czestochowa1/Czestochowa1.html -Holocaust in Belarus -Jewish Music in Poland between the World Wars -Maramures Region -Novogrudok, Belarus -Nowy Sacz, Poland -Radomsko, Poland -Shumskoye, Ukraine As always, we wish to thank all the donors of material and the project coordinators for their donations of translations and their precious time. Nothing can be accomplished without your interest in the Yizkor Book Project. We are always interested in new material and look forward to hearing >from researchers wanting to start a new translation project. Joyce Field Yizkor Book Project JewishGen V.P., Data Acquisition jfield@jewishgen.org
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Joyce Field
Because of the Pesach holiday, April 2005 was a "short" month and our
production reflects that. One new book and 14 updated books went online. All translations can be accessed at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html and the current additions have been flagged to make the search easier. I would like to remind all new researchers that you can find whether a yizkor book has been written about a particular town at the Yizkor Book Database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You can search the Necrology Index at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/yizkor/. Our index to this database says the following: "The JewishGen Yizkor Book Necrology Database indexes the names of persons in the necrologies -- the lists of Holocaust martyrs -- published in the Yizkor Books appearing on the JewishGen Yizkor Book Translation Project. This database is only an index of names; it directs researchers back to the Yizkor Book itself, where more complete information may be available. This database allows the surnames to be searched via soundex. Because most of these names were transliterated >from Hebrew and Yiddish, the spellings of the surnames may not be as you are used to seeing them in Latin-alphabet sources." This database currently contains over 165,000 entries >from the necrologies of 177 different yizkor books. Remember that not all yizkor books have necrologies. New book: "With a rifle in my hand and Eretz Israel in my heart" by Dov Levin, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/dovlevin1/dovlevin1.html. Updated books: -Belchatow, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html -Belchatow, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Belchatow_ann/Belchatow_ann.html -Bolekhov, Ukraine -Brest, Belarus, volume 2 -Bukowina book -Chelm, Poland -Czestochowa, Poland, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Czestochowa1/Czestochowa1.html -Holocaust in Belarus -Jewish Music in Poland between the World Wars -Maramures Region -Novogrudok, Belarus -Nowy Sacz, Poland -Radomsko, Poland -Shumskoye, Ukraine As always, we wish to thank all the donors of material and the project coordinators for their donations of translations and their precious time. Nothing can be accomplished without your interest in the Yizkor Book Project. We are always interested in new material and look forward to hearing >from researchers wanting to start a new translation project. Joyce Field Yizkor Book Project JewishGen V.P., Data Acquisition jfield@jewishgen.org
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Re: Esther BASIOR
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Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
The name BASIOR is very rare in France since there are only two
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persons with that name in the French telephone directory. Which means most probably they are related to Icchok (or other spelling) BASIOR, who was deported >from France on 26 June 1942 with the convoy #4. Thre were only six births of BASIOR in France, all of them in Paris, between 1916 and 1990. There is no Esther BASIOR in the directory, and the two BASIOR listed in the directory may be her children or even grandchildren. More by private mail. --------------
At 19:07 -0400 27/04/05, Shelley K. Pollero wrote:
I have known for quite a while that a possible relative, Icchok BASIOR, born --
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky Besancon (France) and also Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris) http://www.genealoj.org
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Searching for family
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Shelly Crane
Hello All and Bonjour!
I've been trying unsuccessfully to get information about my father's family. They were originally LEFELMAN's >from Vakhnovka (107.0 miles SW of Kiev), Ukraine but could have been in other towns in and around that area. My aunt, who passed away many years ago always spoke about her travels to Paris to visit a branch of the LEFELMAN family sometime in the 1960's or 1970's. As luck would have it, we found her old address book and the names of these relatives were actually LIPOVETSKY and connected to the LEFELMAN family in some way. I have the following names, which could be misspelled: Jacoves LIPOVETSKY, Josef LIPOVETSK, STEINBERG (first name unknown) and Ann ELIAZ (eventually went to South Africa). The first 3 listed above lived in Paris. Anyone familiar with these names? Thank you, Shelly Crane other surnames I am searching include: Anywhere in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: DANOWSKI , FAJNTUCH FRAJND/FROYD, FROMSEN, GABELMAN, LANGUS, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, LIPSZYC, MILEWICZ, PIENTAK, Location unknown: FLASTERSTEIN, GORELIK, Lithuania: LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF Ukraine: GLASS, KWATCHINSKY, LEFELMAN, LIPOVETSKY, SHIFFMAN,
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Re: HOROWITZ bakers
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Jim Horvitz
In a message dated 5/2/2005 11:35:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org writes: mpcamitta@aol.com Miriam I note with interest your post to JewishGen. My grandfather Hillel HORVITZ was also a baker. He came to Cleveland, Ohio in 1884 >from Bialystok, Poland. Could baking be part of the HOROWITZER tradition? Jim Horvitz Rancho Mirage CA.
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French SIG #France Re: Esther BASIOR
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Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
The name BASIOR is very rare in France since there are only two
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persons with that name in the French telephone directory. Which means most probably they are related to Icchok (or other spelling) BASIOR, who was deported >from France on 26 June 1942 with the convoy #4. Thre were only six births of BASIOR in France, all of them in Paris, between 1916 and 1990. There is no Esther BASIOR in the directory, and the two BASIOR listed in the directory may be her children or even grandchildren. More by private mail. --------------
At 19:07 -0400 27/04/05, Shelley K. Pollero wrote:
I have known for quite a while that a possible relative, Icchok BASIOR, born --
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky Besancon (France) and also Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris) http://www.genealoj.org
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French SIG #France Searching for family
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Shelly Crane
Hello All and Bonjour!
I've been trying unsuccessfully to get information about my father's family. They were originally LEFELMAN's >from Vakhnovka (107.0 miles SW of Kiev), Ukraine but could have been in other towns in and around that area. My aunt, who passed away many years ago always spoke about her travels to Paris to visit a branch of the LEFELMAN family sometime in the 1960's or 1970's. As luck would have it, we found her old address book and the names of these relatives were actually LIPOVETSKY and connected to the LEFELMAN family in some way. I have the following names, which could be misspelled: Jacoves LIPOVETSKY, Josef LIPOVETSK, STEINBERG (first name unknown) and Ann ELIAZ (eventually went to South Africa). The first 3 listed above lived in Paris. Anyone familiar with these names? Thank you, Shelly Crane other surnames I am searching include: Anywhere in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: DANOWSKI , FAJNTUCH FRAJND/FROYD, FROMSEN, GABELMAN, LANGUS, LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF, LIPSZYC, MILEWICZ, PIENTAK, Location unknown: FLASTERSTEIN, GORELIK, Lithuania: LIPOVICH/LIPOWICZ/LIPOFF Ukraine: GLASS, KWATCHINSKY, LEFELMAN, LIPOVETSKY, SHIFFMAN,
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: HOROWITZ bakers
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Jim Horvitz
In a message dated 5/2/2005 11:35:13 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org writes: mpcamitta@aol.com Miriam I note with interest your post to JewishGen. My grandfather Hillel HORVITZ was also a baker. He came to Cleveland, Ohio in 1884 >from Bialystok, Poland. Could baking be part of the HOROWITZER tradition? Jim Horvitz Rancho Mirage CA.
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Re: Slovakian Jewry - emigration patterns?
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AK <alan.kolnik@...>
Anita:
As I worked through this matter, I found a number of maps showing Jewish emigration patterns which you might like to look at to see if any match the patterns that you thiunk mught fit your family's origins. One good place to start looking at maps is: http://www.routledge.com/textbooks/0415236614/resources/indi.asp Also take a look at this map (it is found in several other places on the web as well): http://www.chalem.com/genealogy/maps/migration.htm - it indicates that Jews migrated to the north east out of "Hungary" and "Austria" in the 1300's and 14-00's, so could easily have continued later - say in the 1600's and 1700's, landing up in "poland" There are rich textual sources such as: http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bukowinabook/Bukowina.html (you need to be logged in to Jewish Gen to get to this) http://members.shaw.ca/czernowitz/ http://www.khazaria.com/ and the sections thereunder: Are Russian Jews Descended >from the Khazars? Are Russian Jews Descended >from the German and Bohemian Jews? Russian Jewish Genetics Are Mountain Jews Descended >from the Khazars? Rgds Alan
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Slovakian Jewry - emigration patterns?
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AK <alan.kolnik@...>
Anita:
As I worked through this matter, I found a number of maps showing Jewish emigration patterns which you might like to look at to see if any match the patterns that you thiunk mught fit your family's origins. One good place to start looking at maps is: http://www.routledge.com/textbooks/0415236614/resources/indi.asp Also take a look at this map (it is found in several other places on the web as well): http://www.chalem.com/genealogy/maps/migration.htm - it indicates that Jews migrated to the north east out of "Hungary" and "Austria" in the 1300's and 14-00's, so could easily have continued later - say in the 1600's and 1700's, landing up in "poland" There are rich textual sources such as: http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/bukowinabook/Bukowina.html (you need to be logged in to Jewish Gen to get to this) http://members.shaw.ca/czernowitz/ http://www.khazaria.com/ and the sections thereunder: Are Russian Jews Descended >from the Khazars? Are Russian Jews Descended >from the German and Bohemian Jews? Russian Jewish Genetics Are Mountain Jews Descended >from the Khazars? Rgds Alan
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2005 Florida death notice
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Israel P
I am looking for a published death notice for Mary Frank of Lake Worth
Florida, who died 2 January 2005. I am trying to locate her two children. (Mary's late husband is a Pikholz descendant.) I found two local papers - one archives only >from 11 Jan and the other has a notice with no information. Can someone in the area help out? Israel Pickholtz
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 2005 Florida death notice
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Israel P
I am looking for a published death notice for Mary Frank of Lake Worth
Florida, who died 2 January 2005. I am trying to locate her two children. (Mary's late husband is a Pikholz descendant.) I found two local papers - one archives only >from 11 Jan and the other has a notice with no information. Can someone in the area help out? Israel Pickholtz
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Re: Bukovina - village south of Krakow
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Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
There is a small village named Bukovina, south of Krakow, near the border
of Slovakia and Poland. On a map, follow the road >from Krakow south to Nowy Targ, then turn right towards Trstena. It's on your right just before the border. In the 1500s when the Ottoman empire spread into Hungary and Romania, shepherds >from Wallachia (Romania) were permitted to establish a few villages around the lower Tatra mountains in the Arva province of Hungary. They brought the town name with them. The main wave of Jewish settlement was the late 1700s and early 1800s, >from other parts of the Austrian empire. The Hungarian SIG site has an 1850s census and some indexes to vital records of Arva. I have a copy of fixed names taken by Jews in Arva in 1787 and a few other name lists of the area. Gary "AK" <alan.kolnik@add-an-n-before-the-dot-verizo.net> wrote in messageGary Luke ~ feraltek@zeta.org.au Sydney, Australia
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Bukovina - village south of Krakow
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Gary Luke <feraltek@...>
There is a small village named Bukovina, south of Krakow, near the border
of Slovakia and Poland. On a map, follow the road >from Krakow south to Nowy Targ, then turn right towards Trstena. It's on your right just before the border. In the 1500s when the Ottoman empire spread into Hungary and Romania, shepherds >from Wallachia (Romania) were permitted to establish a few villages around the lower Tatra mountains in the Arva province of Hungary. They brought the town name with them. The main wave of Jewish settlement was the late 1700s and early 1800s, >from other parts of the Austrian empire. The Hungarian SIG site has an 1850s census and some indexes to vital records of Arva. I have a copy of fixed names taken by Jews in Arva in 1787 and a few other name lists of the area. Gary "AK" <alan.kolnik@add-an-n-before-the-dot-verizo.net> wrote in messageGary Luke ~ feraltek@zeta.org.au Sydney, Australia
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