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Re: A Couple of Connections Found and/or Discovered #general

Maria <elena@...>
 

Hoping to establish a couple of connections to some names I've been able to
tie into the main branches of my family research:

In 1891, my great uncle, Samuel Maltinsky, living in Braddock PA, married
Gittel Kunst. I have found the Hamburg and NY port references to Gittel Kunst:
she lived in Grodno, was born about 1870, and arrived in NY in December 1890
on the Rhaetia out of Hamburg. By spring 1891, she has relocated to PA.
The marriage certificate says she was living on Townsend Street, in Pittsburgh.
A search of microfilmed directories for Pittsburgh yielded no Kunst references
(or Kunsht, or Kunzt names either). It's possible that she could have been
boarding, and just wasn't listed? Interestingly, the 1930 census for
Pittsburgh does show a "Kunsty" family living at 34 Townsend, close to a Zak
family (Yad Vashem mentions a Kunst/Zak marriage, indicating a possible
connection for the Pittsburgh family). Gittel changed her name to Gertrud
after her marriage to Sam Maltinsky; the last I've been able to gather about
her is in the 1930 census, where, two years after Sam's death, she is running
a boarding house; and her death in about 1944. Would be happy to work on any
connections between Kunst families and this Gittel/Gertrud Kunst >from Grodno.

Following a lead on my grandfather's (Polish) side of the family, I have
established a connection for Frank Levy, born in Brooklyn. He was the son of
Kalman Levy and Betsy/Bessie/Beile Pomerantz. Both were >from Poland, town
uncertain, but Betsy appears to have been related to my great grandmother,
which indicates that she would have lived around the Przedecz area. Son Frank
married and passed away in Louisville, and I have just discovered a couple of
facts about his wife's family: she is Lillie, born Yoffe, in Missouri. Her
father was Henry Yoffe, >from "Lithuania", according to the 1930 census for
Louisville. He and his wife Sara, also >from Lithuania, seem to have come to
the US about 1908. Lillie, born around 1914 and sister Bessie, born around
1918, were both born in Missouri; their brother Edward was born in Louisville
in about 1923. Henry Yoffe was in the tobacco business while in Missouri,
and ran a retail store in Louisville, which Frank seems to have inherited.
Would be happy to pursue facts and leads with anyone with any connections.

Many thanks to all,

Maria Torres
elena@pipeline.com
MALTINSKY, RUBINSTEIN, MOSTOW, IMONITOFF, ZELLAT/ZELOTUKHIN (Latvia, PA, GA, NY)
NOTIS (Kovno, NY) KUNST (Poland, PA), PADEREWSKI (Poland, Savannah)
SABLODOWSKY (Poland, PA) ROSKOPH (Bohemia, OH, PA, NY)
PHILLIPS (PSCHEDESKI, PRZDECKI, DADACZ), LEVY, POMERANZ, ZEPLINSKY, FRANKEL
(Poland, NY, KY) RYBINSKI (Poland, UK)
TOBIAS (Poland, UK) DANIELSKI (Przdecz Poland)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: A Couple of Connections Found and/or Discovered #general

Maria <elena@...>
 

Hoping to establish a couple of connections to some names I've been able to
tie into the main branches of my family research:

In 1891, my great uncle, Samuel Maltinsky, living in Braddock PA, married
Gittel Kunst. I have found the Hamburg and NY port references to Gittel Kunst:
she lived in Grodno, was born about 1870, and arrived in NY in December 1890
on the Rhaetia out of Hamburg. By spring 1891, she has relocated to PA.
The marriage certificate says she was living on Townsend Street, in Pittsburgh.
A search of microfilmed directories for Pittsburgh yielded no Kunst references
(or Kunsht, or Kunzt names either). It's possible that she could have been
boarding, and just wasn't listed? Interestingly, the 1930 census for
Pittsburgh does show a "Kunsty" family living at 34 Townsend, close to a Zak
family (Yad Vashem mentions a Kunst/Zak marriage, indicating a possible
connection for the Pittsburgh family). Gittel changed her name to Gertrud
after her marriage to Sam Maltinsky; the last I've been able to gather about
her is in the 1930 census, where, two years after Sam's death, she is running
a boarding house; and her death in about 1944. Would be happy to work on any
connections between Kunst families and this Gittel/Gertrud Kunst >from Grodno.

Following a lead on my grandfather's (Polish) side of the family, I have
established a connection for Frank Levy, born in Brooklyn. He was the son of
Kalman Levy and Betsy/Bessie/Beile Pomerantz. Both were >from Poland, town
uncertain, but Betsy appears to have been related to my great grandmother,
which indicates that she would have lived around the Przedecz area. Son Frank
married and passed away in Louisville, and I have just discovered a couple of
facts about his wife's family: she is Lillie, born Yoffe, in Missouri. Her
father was Henry Yoffe, >from "Lithuania", according to the 1930 census for
Louisville. He and his wife Sara, also >from Lithuania, seem to have come to
the US about 1908. Lillie, born around 1914 and sister Bessie, born around
1918, were both born in Missouri; their brother Edward was born in Louisville
in about 1923. Henry Yoffe was in the tobacco business while in Missouri,
and ran a retail store in Louisville, which Frank seems to have inherited.
Would be happy to pursue facts and leads with anyone with any connections.

Many thanks to all,

Maria Torres
elena@pipeline.com
MALTINSKY, RUBINSTEIN, MOSTOW, IMONITOFF, ZELLAT/ZELOTUKHIN (Latvia, PA, GA, NY)
NOTIS (Kovno, NY) KUNST (Poland, PA), PADEREWSKI (Poland, Savannah)
SABLODOWSKY (Poland, PA) ROSKOPH (Bohemia, OH, PA, NY)
PHILLIPS (PSCHEDESKI, PRZDECKI, DADACZ), LEVY, POMERANZ, ZEPLINSKY, FRANKEL
(Poland, NY, KY) RYBINSKI (Poland, UK)
TOBIAS (Poland, UK) DANIELSKI (Przdecz Poland)


Re: Possible good news re NY research #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Group,

Joan Parker, quoting Gary Mokotoff's "Nu? What's Nu?" wrote:

New York Law May Make Vital Records More Accessible

There is a trend in the United States and elsewhere toward limiting access
to vital records under the guise of reducing identity theft and combating
terrorism. New York Assembly Bill 7209 [my note: it is A07209] is moving
in the opposite direction. The bill would reduce the current cost to
obtain vital records for genealogical purposes by half, and for applicants
who show current membership in a genealogical society, review of vital
records will be at no charge.

A summary comment of the bill makes the statement that "the fear that has
been voiced that vital records could provide information which could lead
to identity theft is unfounded. In a recent survey of 500 victims of
identity theft, not one was due to information gleaned >from vital
records."

Additional information can be found at
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A07209.

I counter with: Don't get your hopes up too quickly. Bills are often
proposed, and then languish and disappear. (And in New York, the
legislature is famous for doing almost nothing.) For example, there's
another proposed bill, A05641, which if passed would "authorize the
commissioner of health to issue copies and transcripts of death
certificates, which do not include the cause of death or medical
certifications, for genealogical and research purposes." Sounds great.
This is law in many other states already. However, instead of being voted
on, this bill has been referred to the Assembly's Health Committee, and
apparently that has happened every other year since 1999. Unfortunately,
the bill that Gary and Joan mentioned has also already been referred to
the Health Committee. Information on both bills is available on the New
York State Assembly's web site http://assembly.state.ny.us/

It is also unclear to me whether either of these bills, if passed,
would apply to New York City records, or only New York State records
outside of the city. These bills would not create entirely new laws, but
amend existing laws, and the web site only includes the changes. Without
the full text, it's unclear to me if the commissioner of health cited
above refers to only the state commissioner, or includes all local
commissioners in the state.

So, we will have to sit back and wait, probably for quite a while, to
see what happens. Or you can contact me privately for more information.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Possible good news re NY research #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Group,

Joan Parker, quoting Gary Mokotoff's "Nu? What's Nu?" wrote:

New York Law May Make Vital Records More Accessible

There is a trend in the United States and elsewhere toward limiting access
to vital records under the guise of reducing identity theft and combating
terrorism. New York Assembly Bill 7209 [my note: it is A07209] is moving
in the opposite direction. The bill would reduce the current cost to
obtain vital records for genealogical purposes by half, and for applicants
who show current membership in a genealogical society, review of vital
records will be at no charge.

A summary comment of the bill makes the statement that "the fear that has
been voiced that vital records could provide information which could lead
to identity theft is unfounded. In a recent survey of 500 victims of
identity theft, not one was due to information gleaned >from vital
records."

Additional information can be found at
http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A07209.

I counter with: Don't get your hopes up too quickly. Bills are often
proposed, and then languish and disappear. (And in New York, the
legislature is famous for doing almost nothing.) For example, there's
another proposed bill, A05641, which if passed would "authorize the
commissioner of health to issue copies and transcripts of death
certificates, which do not include the cause of death or medical
certifications, for genealogical and research purposes." Sounds great.
This is law in many other states already. However, instead of being voted
on, this bill has been referred to the Assembly's Health Committee, and
apparently that has happened every other year since 1999. Unfortunately,
the bill that Gary and Joan mentioned has also already been referred to
the Health Committee. Information on both bills is available on the New
York State Assembly's web site http://assembly.state.ny.us/

It is also unclear to me whether either of these bills, if passed,
would apply to New York City records, or only New York State records
outside of the city. These bills would not create entirely new laws, but
amend existing laws, and the web site only includes the changes. Without
the full text, it's unclear to me if the commissioner of health cited
above refers to only the state commissioner, or includes all local
commissioners in the state.

So, we will have to sit back and wait, probably for quite a while, to
see what happens. Or you can contact me privately for more information.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Permission for marriage #ukraine

Lancy
 

After the partition of Poland and until the emancipation, there were several
attempts to control what seemed to the Austrians like the incontrollable
reproduction of the Jewish population. These rulings changed >from time to
time. There was a period when Jews had to present proof that they had
completed several years of elementary school (Cheder was not good enough).
Then there was a tax which was high enough to ensure that most of the
population could not marry. I believe these restrictions applied to civil
marriages only.

I don't know how they could restrict religious marriages when the Jewish
precept doesn't even call for a Rabbi to perform the ceremony. Saying the
words "At mekudeshet li ...." in front of a minyan is enough for a marriage
to be valid. They could only restrict the registration of the alliance.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel

----- Original Message -----

I sent a question in a few weeks back as to why a person, in this case my
great-grandfather who worked for the Postal Service in Lviv, required
permission >from the Post Office to get married. I did not get a firm
answer to this
question so I did a web search to try and find out why this permission
was
needed.

I found that after the partition of Poland a ruling was passed in lands
held
by Austria that a Rabbi could not wed those that did not have permeant
earnings. I would therefor assume that this would hold true in civil
marriages as
well since the recorded marriage was several years after the religious
marriage.
Errol Schneegurt LI NY
ESLVIV@AOL.COM
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Permission for marriage #ukraine

Lancy
 

After the partition of Poland and until the emancipation, there were several
attempts to control what seemed to the Austrians like the incontrollable
reproduction of the Jewish population. These rulings changed >from time to
time. There was a period when Jews had to present proof that they had
completed several years of elementary school (Cheder was not good enough).
Then there was a tax which was high enough to ensure that most of the
population could not marry. I believe these restrictions applied to civil
marriages only.

I don't know how they could restrict religious marriages when the Jewish
precept doesn't even call for a Rabbi to perform the ceremony. Saying the
words "At mekudeshet li ...." in front of a minyan is enough for a marriage
to be valid. They could only restrict the registration of the alliance.

Lancy Spalter
Kfar Tavor, Israel

----- Original Message -----

I sent a question in a few weeks back as to why a person, in this case my
great-grandfather who worked for the Postal Service in Lviv, required
permission >from the Post Office to get married. I did not get a firm
answer to this
question so I did a web search to try and find out why this permission
was
needed.

I found that after the partition of Poland a ruling was passed in lands
held
by Austria that a Rabbi could not wed those that did not have permeant
earnings. I would therefor assume that this would hold true in civil
marriages as
well since the recorded marriage was several years after the religious
marriage.
Errol Schneegurt LI NY
ESLVIV@AOL.COM
MODERATOR'S NOTE: This list focuses on the Ukraine territory. Polish issues are dealt with by JRI-Poland. This line of inquiry is over now.


Re: Craiova and Braila family research #romania

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

Sam,
Although I am unable to answer your questions about Romanian archives, except to
note previous correspondence on ROM SIG about the current difficulties in obtaining
anything >from those archives, I did note among the names you mention >from Craiova
ESCHENAZI.

My gggrandmother Mariane (aka Marie) HASSAN nee ESKENASI died in Vienna in 1891 at the age of 78. According to the record of her
death in German she was "zustandig nach Bukarest". I interpret this as being she was a citizen of Bucharest, even though she
lived in Vienna. This citizenship of Bucharest means one of three things: either she, her father or her husband was born there
(maybe more than one of these 3). To date the follow-up action to discovering this was to place these names on the Jewish
Genealofy Family Finder (JGFF) with Bucuresti as the location, and to subscribe to the ROM-SIG mailing list ( I had already
subscribed to the Sefard SIG list).

May I sugest that you search for ESCHENAZI in the JGFF with Romania as the country and using the D-M soundex. You should find a
few entries, including one >from Craiova.

best regards

David Laufer
Sydney, Australia


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Craiova and Braila family research #romania

David & Diana Laufer <dlaufer@...>
 

Sam,
Although I am unable to answer your questions about Romanian archives, except to
note previous correspondence on ROM SIG about the current difficulties in obtaining
anything >from those archives, I did note among the names you mention >from Craiova
ESCHENAZI.

My gggrandmother Mariane (aka Marie) HASSAN nee ESKENASI died in Vienna in 1891 at the age of 78. According to the record of her
death in German she was "zustandig nach Bukarest". I interpret this as being she was a citizen of Bucharest, even though she
lived in Vienna. This citizenship of Bucharest means one of three things: either she, her father or her husband was born there
(maybe more than one of these 3). To date the follow-up action to discovering this was to place these names on the Jewish
Genealofy Family Finder (JGFF) with Bucuresti as the location, and to subscribe to the ROM-SIG mailing list ( I had already
subscribed to the Sefard SIG list).

May I sugest that you search for ESCHENAZI in the JGFF with Romania as the country and using the D-M soundex. You should find a
few entries, including one >from Craiova.

best regards

David Laufer
Sydney, Australia


Yiddish translation request of two letter fragments #romania

Martin Fischer
 

I previously posted these two Yiddish letter fragments to ViewMate, but no
one volunteered to translate them. I apologize if either or both of them are
upside down.
They have been archived as VM5718 and VM 5719 in ViewMate at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=5718
and
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=5719

These are fragments of a letter, so I would understand if they do not quite
make sense when translated, however, my knowledge of the LANDMAN family
history may help me decipher them if someone would be kind enough to
translate them into English.

Many thanks for any assistance.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois

-----------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Romania SIG #Romania Yiddish translation request of two letter fragments #romania

Martin Fischer
 

I previously posted these two Yiddish letter fragments to ViewMate, but no
one volunteered to translate them. I apologize if either or both of them are
upside down.
They have been archived as VM5718 and VM 5719 in ViewMate at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=5718
and
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/all/viewmateview.asp?key=5719

These are fragments of a letter, so I would understand if they do not quite
make sense when translated, however, my knowledge of the LANDMAN family
history may help me decipher them if someone would be kind enough to
translate them into English.

Many thanks for any assistance.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois

-----------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


FTM help website #general

Edward Andelman <eandelman2@...>
 

Thank you Joan Parker for the tip re the FTM-D-request@rootsweb.com.
source for help with any (FTM) Family Tree Maker version.

And my appreciation to all the kind, generous, and informative Jewish
Genners who have and continue to contribute to this group over the 15
years I've researched.

How lucky we are to have such a resource/staff as Jewishgen.

Many thanks,

Jeanne Blitzer Andelman
eandelman2@earthlink.net
Researching:

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on this list. Anyone interested in volunteering can go to
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the many helpful skills JewishGen needs to bring these resources to you.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FTM help website #general

Edward Andelman <eandelman2@...>
 

Thank you Joan Parker for the tip re the FTM-D-request@rootsweb.com.
source for help with any (FTM) Family Tree Maker version.

And my appreciation to all the kind, generous, and informative Jewish
Genners who have and continue to contribute to this group over the 15
years I've researched.

How lucky we are to have such a resource/staff as Jewishgen.

Many thanks,

Jeanne Blitzer Andelman
eandelman2@earthlink.net
Researching:

MODERATOR NOTE: We have the best readers in the world; it is amazing
the help they can give and the knowledge they have. Our "staff" is
made up of volunteers, many of whom are also the same people you meet
on this list. Anyone interested in volunteering can go to
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Volunteer.html to find out about
the many helpful skills JewishGen needs to bring these resources to you.


Re: Permission for marriage [in the Habsburg Empire] #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I must have missed Errol Schneegurt's [LI, NY]
question a few weeks back as to why [his]
great-grandfather who worked for the Postal Service in
Lviv, required permission >from the Post Office [where
he was employed] to get married.

Errol has partially answered his own question in
today's posting: the documentary requirements prior to
marriage in the Habsburg Empire, of which Lviv [Lvov,
Lemberg] was a part when the marriage took place were
very stringent. I have a list in front of me of 22
certificates which had to be in submitted before
permission was granted for a Jewish marriage in
Bohemia in 1832.

Amazingly, this list includes school certificates from
both the bridegroom and bride to-be! Whether poor
marks [grades] counted against you when applying for
marriage permission in 1832, I have yet to discover!

I doubt if these requirements were only directed at
Jews - bureaucracy ruled supreme in this Empire.
Non-Jews may however have been "let off the hook", for
som of the certificates.

Seven of the requirements involve certificates from
the bridegroom's apprenticeship years and current
employer. Thus the bridegroom had to supply a
certificate to prove that he is employed in a job
which supports him financially.

Celia Male [UK]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Permission for marriage [in the Habsburg Empire] #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I must have missed Errol Schneegurt's [LI, NY]
question a few weeks back as to why [his]
great-grandfather who worked for the Postal Service in
Lviv, required permission >from the Post Office [where
he was employed] to get married.

Errol has partially answered his own question in
today's posting: the documentary requirements prior to
marriage in the Habsburg Empire, of which Lviv [Lvov,
Lemberg] was a part when the marriage took place were
very stringent. I have a list in front of me of 22
certificates which had to be in submitted before
permission was granted for a Jewish marriage in
Bohemia in 1832.

Amazingly, this list includes school certificates from
both the bridegroom and bride to-be! Whether poor
marks [grades] counted against you when applying for
marriage permission in 1832, I have yet to discover!

I doubt if these requirements were only directed at
Jews - bureaucracy ruled supreme in this Empire.
Non-Jews may however have been "let off the hook", for
som of the certificates.

Seven of the requirements involve certificates from
the bridegroom's apprenticeship years and current
employer. Thus the bridegroom had to supply a
certificate to prove that he is employed in a job
which supports him financially.

Celia Male [UK]


deMEZA family in Genoa, Italy #general

Mark de Meza <mark.demeza@...>
 

We are a family of Sephardic Jews living in the UK. I have traced my
descendants back to 1650 in Amsterdam. Prior to that, we were in
Genoa/Genova in Italy. Do you have any idea how I could trace my descendants
to Genoa and understand how they went there originally >from Spain/Portugal?

Kind Regards

Mark deMEZA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen deMEZA family in Genoa, Italy #general

Mark de Meza <mark.demeza@...>
 

We are a family of Sephardic Jews living in the UK. I have traced my
descendants back to 1650 in Amsterdam. Prior to that, we were in
Genoa/Genova in Italy. Do you have any idea how I could trace my descendants
to Genoa and understand how they went there originally >from Spain/Portugal?

Kind Regards

Mark deMEZA


Re: Chodorova #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Dorothy AUERBACH Rivers wrote:

My great-grandfather, David FASS/FASZ is sometimes listed in
Tyczyn, Poland, Rzeszow, Poland and sometimes in Chodorova. He is
buried in The Chodorova Society Plot in NYC.

Which address do I use for him, Tyczyn or Chodorova? Are any
interchangeable?

Also, My great-grandfather Tzvi HIRSCH has two towns listed;
Verkhnedvinsk and Polostsk, Belarus. How do I handle that?


Dorothy,

Is your question related to the entry of your ggfathers surnames in JGFF
database?

You can always list both and more town names for the same person.

I am a bit confused as to Chodorowa. This was a small sleepy village in
Grzybow district (Krakow Province) with about 300 population. There is no
evidence that Jewish people were residing there at all. I am a bit surprise
to learn that there was a Chodorova Society associated with the town which
had no Jewish residents.

Perhaps you are confusing town Chodorow (currently know as Ukrainian
Khodorov) in Lwow Province with Chodorova?

And you obviuosly can list both towns, Verkhnedvinsk and Polotsk in Belarus,
for Hirsch Belarus entries.

Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Chodorova #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Dorothy AUERBACH Rivers wrote:

My great-grandfather, David FASS/FASZ is sometimes listed in
Tyczyn, Poland, Rzeszow, Poland and sometimes in Chodorova. He is
buried in The Chodorova Society Plot in NYC.

Which address do I use for him, Tyczyn or Chodorova? Are any
interchangeable?

Also, My great-grandfather Tzvi HIRSCH has two towns listed;
Verkhnedvinsk and Polostsk, Belarus. How do I handle that?


Dorothy,

Is your question related to the entry of your ggfathers surnames in JGFF
database?

You can always list both and more town names for the same person.

I am a bit confused as to Chodorowa. This was a small sleepy village in
Grzybow district (Krakow Province) with about 300 population. There is no
evidence that Jewish people were residing there at all. I am a bit surprise
to learn that there was a Chodorova Society associated with the town which
had no Jewish residents.

Perhaps you are confusing town Chodorow (currently know as Ukrainian
Khodorov) in Lwow Province with Chodorova?

And you obviuosly can list both towns, Verkhnedvinsk and Polotsk in Belarus,
for Hirsch Belarus entries.

Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF editor


Seeking Any Information On Pictures Posted VM6012-6015 #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello To All:

I am seeking any and all information on these four pictures on
jewishgen viewmate. The baby pic is of my great-uncle Murray Rakoff.
The portrait of the gentleman is unidentified and I would love to
uncover who he is. He would have to be some on my great-grandmothers
side of the family since the photo's I am in possesion of were
originaly hers. The wedding portrait I am unsure weather it is
relatives of my great-grandfather David Rakoff. I believe them to be
Sonia Rakoff and husband last name tudrin. I would love to find out for
sure and also the timeframe photo was taken. The group photo of the
family I belive to also be RAKOFFs. I believe they are
Helen(Rakoff)Brown, Louis & daughter Ilene. If anyone can tell me what
they know about these families I would greatly appreciate it. These
families would all have been living in new york.
Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking Any Information On Pictures Posted VM6012-6015 #general

sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
 

Hello To All:

I am seeking any and all information on these four pictures on
jewishgen viewmate. The baby pic is of my great-uncle Murray Rakoff.
The portrait of the gentleman is unidentified and I would love to
uncover who he is. He would have to be some on my great-grandmothers
side of the family since the photo's I am in possesion of were
originaly hers. The wedding portrait I am unsure weather it is
relatives of my great-grandfather David Rakoff. I believe them to be
Sonia Rakoff and husband last name tudrin. I would love to find out for
sure and also the timeframe photo was taken. The group photo of the
family I belive to also be RAKOFFs. I believe they are
Helen(Rakoff)Brown, Louis & daughter Ilene. If anyone can tell me what
they know about these families I would greatly appreciate it. These
families would all have been living in new york.
Sarah Greenberg
sacredsisters3@aol.com

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