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BOOK CITE - A new traveller's guide to Jewish Salzburg, Austria #germany

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

The Salzburg Festival was founded by Max Reinhardt and owed its post
world war II revival in large part to Jewish artists. Stefan Zweig
lived in the city, until he was driven out--the history of the
Jewish population of Salzburg is long and varied. Investigation
shows that Jews first came to the city in Roman times and Jewish
traders settled in Salzburg around 1200.and formed a first Jewish
community. About twenty years later a second community formed that
lasted until the burning of the entire Jewish population in 1404.
The next settlement lasted >from 1418 to 1498. In the last third of
the nineteenth century a fourth Jewish settlement was created that
grew rapidly and included leading businessmen. In 1938 the
Nationalsocialists declared Salzburg "judenrein" ["cleansed of
Jews"]. Today about a hundred Jews live in Salzburg.

I have recently learned of a brand new book, a "Tourist's guide to
Jewish Salzburg". At present it is only available in German, but an
English translation is being planned. I have no monetary interest
in this publication, but thought that it might be of interest to
members of the this GerSIG. Here are the details, if you are interested:

"Ein Führer durch das jüdische Salzburg" von Stan Nadel
ca. 160 Seiten, 13,5 x 21 cm, gebunden
ca. EUR 25,- / Sfr 42,50, WG 1552
[3-902144-93-9], 2005

It is being published by Jung und Jung Verlag in Salzburg. For more
information and orders see www.jungundjung.at or email
office@jungundjung.at or go to a well-known online book-ordering
site at its German link.

Rosanne Leeson Silicon Valley California <rdleeson@sbcglobal.net>


German SIG #Germany BOOK CITE - A new traveller's guide to Jewish Salzburg, Austria #germany

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

The Salzburg Festival was founded by Max Reinhardt and owed its post
world war II revival in large part to Jewish artists. Stefan Zweig
lived in the city, until he was driven out--the history of the
Jewish population of Salzburg is long and varied. Investigation
shows that Jews first came to the city in Roman times and Jewish
traders settled in Salzburg around 1200.and formed a first Jewish
community. About twenty years later a second community formed that
lasted until the burning of the entire Jewish population in 1404.
The next settlement lasted >from 1418 to 1498. In the last third of
the nineteenth century a fourth Jewish settlement was created that
grew rapidly and included leading businessmen. In 1938 the
Nationalsocialists declared Salzburg "judenrein" ["cleansed of
Jews"]. Today about a hundred Jews live in Salzburg.

I have recently learned of a brand new book, a "Tourist's guide to
Jewish Salzburg". At present it is only available in German, but an
English translation is being planned. I have no monetary interest
in this publication, but thought that it might be of interest to
members of the this GerSIG. Here are the details, if you are interested:

"Ein Führer durch das jüdische Salzburg" von Stan Nadel
ca. 160 Seiten, 13,5 x 21 cm, gebunden
ca. EUR 25,- / Sfr 42,50, WG 1552
[3-902144-93-9], 2005

It is being published by Jung und Jung Verlag in Salzburg. For more
information and orders see www.jungundjung.at or email
office@jungundjung.at or go to a well-known online book-ordering
site at its German link.

Rosanne Leeson Silicon Valley California <rdleeson@sbcglobal.net>


Re: List of departure ports? #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Judy Baston (Jrbaston@aol.com) posted:
Is there somewhere a list of departure ports used by
emigrants >from Eastern Europe?

I have heard a tape recording made by another researcher's
grandmother in which she speaks (quite clearly) of boarding
a ship in a place she called "Andrerten." I'd like to see if
there is a departure port that might correspond with this
location name.
This is almost certainly Antwerp - Antwerpen in Flemish - a
commonly used port for emigration to North America.

--
Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: List of departure ports? #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Judy Baston (Jrbaston@aol.com) posted:
Is there somewhere a list of departure ports used by
emigrants >from Eastern Europe?

I have heard a tape recording made by another researcher's
grandmother in which she speaks (quite clearly) of boarding
a ship in a place she called "Andrerten." I'd like to see if
there is a departure port that might correspond with this
location name.
This is almost certainly Antwerp - Antwerpen in Flemish - a
commonly used port for emigration to North America.

--
Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada af877@freenet.carleton.ca


SALOMON Wetzlar #germany

Gerrard Salomon <jerrysalomon@...>
 

Hi Gersigers; Since I see that so many inquiries find someone who can answer
I decided not to sit idly by any longer. I have tried to elicit some data from
the City offices of Wetzlar (Hessen)rearding the parents of Ruben SALOMON b. 1845
in Wetzlar d.1920 in ?

married three times: 1) Hanna SONNEBORN b. 1850, Breidenbach,d. 1874 ?
They had one child: Albert SALOMON b.1869 Wetzlar d. 1944 Bogota,Colombia, my
grandfather. Mar. 2)Flora SONNEBORN b.1845 Mar. 3)unknown.

They couldn't help, so I wrote to the Hessian state archives,(the correspondence
was in German both times)and they looked and came up emptyhanded. They
suggested a professional genealogist. Is there someone out there who might have
other sources? Thank you very much,

Gerrard Salomon, La Jolla CA <jerrysalomon@sbcglobal.net>


German SIG #Germany SALOMON Wetzlar #germany

Gerrard Salomon <jerrysalomon@...>
 

Hi Gersigers; Since I see that so many inquiries find someone who can answer
I decided not to sit idly by any longer. I have tried to elicit some data from
the City offices of Wetzlar (Hessen)rearding the parents of Ruben SALOMON b. 1845
in Wetzlar d.1920 in ?

married three times: 1) Hanna SONNEBORN b. 1850, Breidenbach,d. 1874 ?
They had one child: Albert SALOMON b.1869 Wetzlar d. 1944 Bogota,Colombia, my
grandfather. Mar. 2)Flora SONNEBORN b.1845 Mar. 3)unknown.

They couldn't help, so I wrote to the Hessian state archives,(the correspondence
was in German both times)and they looked and came up emptyhanded. They
suggested a professional genealogist. Is there someone out there who might have
other sources? Thank you very much,

Gerrard Salomon, La Jolla CA <jerrysalomon@sbcglobal.net>


Re: 1916 census of Jerusalem #general

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Hi Nick,

You wrote:
Apparently the Ottomans took censuses in 1905, 1911, 1912 and 1914.
In 1916, a census was taken by the American Aid Committee to enable
distribution of food and money to the Jewish population.

I have also found that the material >from the Ottoman Administration. Census
and Population (Nefus) Registers 1884-1917 (Record Group 39) can be read in
the Reading-Room of the State Archives.
www.isragen.org.il/ROS/ARCHIVES/archive-state-2.html
--------->
As I earlier write, the Ottoman censuses are kept by the Israel State Archives.
The problem with these censuses is that they are written in Osmanli script -
a kind of Arabic handwriting, and only some university scholars can read them.
People, fluent in Arabic, can decipher the handwriting with enormous
difficulties.

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger
Jerusalem


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1916 census of Jerusalem #general

Mathilde Tagger <tagger@...>
 

Hi Nick,

You wrote:
Apparently the Ottomans took censuses in 1905, 1911, 1912 and 1914.
In 1916, a census was taken by the American Aid Committee to enable
distribution of food and money to the Jewish population.

I have also found that the material >from the Ottoman Administration. Census
and Population (Nefus) Registers 1884-1917 (Record Group 39) can be read in
the Reading-Room of the State Archives.
www.isragen.org.il/ROS/ARCHIVES/archive-state-2.html
--------->
As I earlier write, the Ottoman censuses are kept by the Israel State Archives.
The problem with these censuses is that they are written in Osmanli script -
a kind of Arabic handwriting, and only some university scholars can read them.
People, fluent in Arabic, can decipher the handwriting with enormous
difficulties.

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger
Jerusalem


Re: Searching for SCHECHTER from Ukraine #ukraine

DebWE308@...
 

Hi Genners,
My Great Grandfather Herschel Hacohen SCHECHTER who was born in 1866 in the
Tivrov, son of Hannah and Moshe Schechter, near Vinnitza, had a sister named
Rivka who married a cousin Sasha (Suchor) Schechter. They had around 13
children. Some of them later were living in Balti Romania. The children's name's were:
Avrum, Yankel, Mendel, Herschel, Bora, Yitzhak, Sarah, Esther, Pearl, Mushke.
I am trying to locate the descendants of this part of the family. If anyone
knows of them please contact me.

Debbie Etzion
Great Neck, NY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Searching for SCHECHTER from Ukraine #ukraine

DebWE308@...
 

Hi Genners,
My Great Grandfather Herschel Hacohen SCHECHTER who was born in 1866 in the
Tivrov, son of Hannah and Moshe Schechter, near Vinnitza, had a sister named
Rivka who married a cousin Sasha (Suchor) Schechter. They had around 13
children. Some of them later were living in Balti Romania. The children's name's were:
Avrum, Yankel, Mendel, Herschel, Bora, Yitzhak, Sarah, Esther, Pearl, Mushke.
I am trying to locate the descendants of this part of the family. If anyone
knows of them please contact me.

Debbie Etzion
Great Neck, NY


Re: Were they from Poland or Russia #general

Yisrael Asper
 

The ethnic group being Jewish is not a matter of dispute. A Polish Jew
is not considered ethnically a Pole. The only question would be amongst
the Jews if someone would be considered ethnically Polish Jewish or
whatever subgroup. The answer seems to vary depending sometimes on
border changes and sometimes on culture.
Yisrael Asper
Pittsburgh PA

My father also came >from Kishinev in 1905 in what he, and everybody else
then called it, Bessarabia. His ethnic group or, as people used to say,
"nationality" was "Jewish" as was that of all the other Jews. At the time
he lived there, most inhabitants of the city were Jews and Russians and some
were Romanians and Germans. The peasants in the surrounding countryside
were mostly Romanian.

My father spoke Yiddish (what we used to call "Jewish") as his native
language and Russian as a second language. He didn’t speak Romanian because
there was no need to. However, his younger sisters, who continued to live
there after it was transferred to Romania after the First World War learned
to speak Romanian as well. Their Russian identity papers (it became Russian
again after the Second World War) identified them as "Jews" by nationality.

However, the United States did not and does not recognize people by their
“nationality” but by their "citizenship", which varies >from time to time as
borders change. In Eastern Europe, nobody’s ethnic group changes when
territory changes hands – only their citizenship. A Polish Jew is not a Pole
and a Russian Jew is not a Russian. So it makes sense to describe somebody’
s “nationality” as Jewish, and his origin as >from a certain town, which can
be described as belonging to one country then and now belonging to another
country.

Yehuda Berman,
Efrat, Israel

I found Lilli Sprintz' comments very interesting - re her paternal
grandfather as being "Romanian" having come >from Kishinev, now in Moldova.
My husband's grandfather also came >from Kishinev, Moldova but he always said
he came >from the Ukraine and considered himself "Ukrainian.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Were they from Poland or Russia #general

Yisrael Asper
 

The ethnic group being Jewish is not a matter of dispute. A Polish Jew
is not considered ethnically a Pole. The only question would be amongst
the Jews if someone would be considered ethnically Polish Jewish or
whatever subgroup. The answer seems to vary depending sometimes on
border changes and sometimes on culture.
Yisrael Asper
Pittsburgh PA

My father also came >from Kishinev in 1905 in what he, and everybody else
then called it, Bessarabia. His ethnic group or, as people used to say,
"nationality" was "Jewish" as was that of all the other Jews. At the time
he lived there, most inhabitants of the city were Jews and Russians and some
were Romanians and Germans. The peasants in the surrounding countryside
were mostly Romanian.

My father spoke Yiddish (what we used to call "Jewish") as his native
language and Russian as a second language. He didn’t speak Romanian because
there was no need to. However, his younger sisters, who continued to live
there after it was transferred to Romania after the First World War learned
to speak Romanian as well. Their Russian identity papers (it became Russian
again after the Second World War) identified them as "Jews" by nationality.

However, the United States did not and does not recognize people by their
“nationality” but by their "citizenship", which varies >from time to time as
borders change. In Eastern Europe, nobody’s ethnic group changes when
territory changes hands – only their citizenship. A Polish Jew is not a Pole
and a Russian Jew is not a Russian. So it makes sense to describe somebody’
s “nationality” as Jewish, and his origin as >from a certain town, which can
be described as belonging to one country then and now belonging to another
country.

Yehuda Berman,
Efrat, Israel

I found Lilli Sprintz' comments very interesting - re her paternal
grandfather as being "Romanian" having come >from Kishinev, now in Moldova.
My husband's grandfather also came >from Kishinev, Moldova but he always said
he came >from the Ukraine and considered himself "Ukrainian.


New site: Doopregisters "registers of baptism" in Amsterdam 1716 - 1811 #general

Max & Bertha van Dam <berthavd@...>
 

Dear people,

If we search Jewish families, we do not normally look in "Doopregisters" ,
registers of baptism.

But ............ a recently new data-base of "Gemeente-archief Amsterdam"
about the period of 1716 - 1811 gives a lot information for them who
searching in Dutch Jew Portuguese records.
If you are searching namens like Vieijra, Nabarro, Pizaro and so on we
recommend to have a look in
http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/genealogie/doopregisters/index.nl.html
Unfortunately the data-base is only in Dutch. If you have problems with the
Dutch language, we offer our help.

With the kindest greetings,

Bertha van Dam
Rechovot
Israel

Researching the following Dutch families: BROMET(Worldwide); CONEN; CRACAU;
DOOF; HAMMELBURG; LOONSTEIN; NABARRO, (Holland and England); SOESTER; SWAAP;
TRIJBETS/TRIJBETZ/TRIJBITZ; VAN CLEEF/VAN KLEEF; VAN DAM;
and some other Dutch families

MODERATOR NOTE: If the long URL (ending with .html) is broken into two lines,
please be sure both parts appear in your browser's address line.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New site: Doopregisters "registers of baptism" in Amsterdam 1716 - 1811 #general

Max & Bertha van Dam <berthavd@...>
 

Dear people,

If we search Jewish families, we do not normally look in "Doopregisters" ,
registers of baptism.

But ............ a recently new data-base of "Gemeente-archief Amsterdam"
about the period of 1716 - 1811 gives a lot information for them who
searching in Dutch Jew Portuguese records.
If you are searching namens like Vieijra, Nabarro, Pizaro and so on we
recommend to have a look in
http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/genealogie/doopregisters/index.nl.html
Unfortunately the data-base is only in Dutch. If you have problems with the
Dutch language, we offer our help.

With the kindest greetings,

Bertha van Dam
Rechovot
Israel

Researching the following Dutch families: BROMET(Worldwide); CONEN; CRACAU;
DOOF; HAMMELBURG; LOONSTEIN; NABARRO, (Holland and England); SOESTER; SWAAP;
TRIJBETS/TRIJBETZ/TRIJBITZ; VAN CLEEF/VAN KLEEF; VAN DAM;
and some other Dutch families

MODERATOR NOTE: If the long URL (ending with .html) is broken into two lines,
please be sure both parts appear in your browser's address line.


Re: Danzig records #general

Nachum Tuchman
 

A while back there was talk of a book on the Jews of Prussia. It
started, or had in it's name the word 'quellen', and then something
about the Jews of Prussia, in German.

Included in the book, several volumes actually, there are census lists
from something like 1794, or the first German census that was taken
for each particular town, if after that year.

Noticeably missing are all towns in the Posen district.

I can't remember the name, or the authoress of the book. Hopefully
someone out there will know what I'm talking about and can tell us the
name, remembering that it has census lists.

I do remember that I checked the pages on Danzig for someone, and
there was a census list. As I recall, there were no last names.

Perhaps this book, whatever its' name, can be of help.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel
Please note my new e-mail address

Searching:
TUCHMAN / KLARMAN / ASPIS - Busko-Zdroj Poland, Kielce Gubernia
LIEBERMAN / ZYSSMAN - Lowicz Poland
RAIDER / REJDER / GINSBERG - Soly/Smorgon Belarus
ROSINSKY / BAYLETT / PAILET / BERNSTEIN - London
KIWI - Samter, Posen/Berlin BUETOW - Zeitz/Berlin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Danzig records #general

Nachum Tuchman
 

A while back there was talk of a book on the Jews of Prussia. It
started, or had in it's name the word 'quellen', and then something
about the Jews of Prussia, in German.

Included in the book, several volumes actually, there are census lists
from something like 1794, or the first German census that was taken
for each particular town, if after that year.

Noticeably missing are all towns in the Posen district.

I can't remember the name, or the authoress of the book. Hopefully
someone out there will know what I'm talking about and can tell us the
name, remembering that it has census lists.

I do remember that I checked the pages on Danzig for someone, and
there was a census list. As I recall, there were no last names.

Perhaps this book, whatever its' name, can be of help.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel
Please note my new e-mail address

Searching:
TUCHMAN / KLARMAN / ASPIS - Busko-Zdroj Poland, Kielce Gubernia
LIEBERMAN / ZYSSMAN - Lowicz Poland
RAIDER / REJDER / GINSBERG - Soly/Smorgon Belarus
ROSINSKY / BAYLETT / PAILET / BERNSTEIN - London
KIWI - Samter, Posen/Berlin BUETOW - Zeitz/Berlin


Odp: 'Owna Suffix (was: STROMWASSEROWNA) #general

Julia Koszewska <julia_koszewska@...>
 

not exactly. it's like:
when father was STROMWASSER, then his wife was: STROMWASSERowa.
and their daughter was STROMWASSERowna.
cause -owna is for female, but not married. it's suffix which was
added to parents' surname. but to husband's surname was -owa.
best regards- Julia

'owna is indeed a suffix that was used at the end of surnames, when the
person was a female. My female relatives in Lublin had 'owna at the end
of their surname, and the males did not.

Tom Erribe


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Odp: 'Owna Suffix (was: STROMWASSEROWNA) #general

Julia Koszewska <julia_koszewska@...>
 

not exactly. it's like:
when father was STROMWASSER, then his wife was: STROMWASSERowa.
and their daughter was STROMWASSERowna.
cause -owna is for female, but not married. it's suffix which was
added to parents' surname. but to husband's surname was -owa.
best regards- Julia

'owna is indeed a suffix that was used at the end of surnames, when the
person was a female. My female relatives in Lublin had 'owna at the end
of their surname, and the males did not.

Tom Erribe


Attention Brest Researchers #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

I have been receiving private inquiries regarding a fund-raising message
that was sent to Brest researchers by the "OWNER/MODERATOR Brest, Belarus
Research SIG".

PLEASE BE ADVISED that this person and his organization is in no way
connected to or supported by the Belarus SIG or JewishGen, even though
the name he has adopted appears otherwise.

Please be careful!

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus Attention Brest Researchers #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

I have been receiving private inquiries regarding a fund-raising message
that was sent to Brest researchers by the "OWNER/MODERATOR Brest, Belarus
Research SIG".

PLEASE BE ADVISED that this person and his organization is in no way
connected to or supported by the Belarus SIG or JewishGen, even though
the name he has adopted appears otherwise.

Please be careful!

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus