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Re: City Directories #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

Do City Directories exist for other communities?

I am interested particularly in Vasvar, Andrasfa, and
Sarospatak.

How might I research them >from the United States?



--- peter bakos <pgbakos@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Budapest City Directories exist >from the 1880's
through 1928 at least.

I have consulted some of these at the Szechenyi
National Library and at the
main Erwin Szabo (Budapest City) Library on the
fifth floor. (As the
Registers in the Budapest City Archives have no
indices it is essential to
find your family and their address in order to
narrow the search, as the
registers are by district). You need a card to use
either of these
libraries, the one for the city library is free, you
just show your
passport. The Szechenyi Library charges a modest
sum for annual membership.
The librarians are helpful though finding an
English speaker Erwin Szabo
is a challenge - go get a student and ask them to
help. In the Szechenyi
Library there are very kind staff members in the
reference rooms who will
find an English speaker. These books are available
on the open shelf so
there is no need to order them. But you do need to
register for a table in
the National Library.

They are indexed by family name which then gives a
district (Roman Numeral)
and address (Street name followed by number) So,
for example, one could
find, "Podvinecz Hermine, maganzo, VI Nagymezo u
33". The index gives
occupation.

Peter Bakos


H-SIG Luncheon and Meeting #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Please let me know if you will be attending the IAJGS Conference in Las
Vegas next month. We're still looking for volunteers to help out with
the SIG Fair on Wednesday, July 13. I would also appreciate knowing if
you plan to attend the H-SIG Luncheon on Monday, July 11, and the H-SIG
Business Meeting at 8:15 am (sorry about that!) on Wednesday, July 13.

Because we recognize that many of you will not be able to join us for
these events, we will be sending the proposed agenda for the H-SIG
business meeting to H-SIG subscribers before the meeting and will also
post the materials that will be distributed at the meeting.

If you are coming to Las Vegas, please fill out the questionnaire
below and e-mail to me off-list at vkahn@kmort.com

Koszonom szepen!

Vivian Kahn, H-SIG Coordinator

Yes, I will be attending the IAJGS Conference ____________

Reservations for H-SIG Luncheon on Monday, July 11 ____________

Yes, I will be present at the H-SIG Business meeting on Wednesday, July
13 _________________

Yes, I will help to staff the H-SIG table at the SIG Fair on Wednesday,
July 13 _________________

Name_____________________________ E-Mail Address __________________


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: City Directories #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

Do City Directories exist for other communities?

I am interested particularly in Vasvar, Andrasfa, and
Sarospatak.

How might I research them >from the United States?



--- peter bakos <pgbakos@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Budapest City Directories exist >from the 1880's
through 1928 at least.

I have consulted some of these at the Szechenyi
National Library and at the
main Erwin Szabo (Budapest City) Library on the
fifth floor. (As the
Registers in the Budapest City Archives have no
indices it is essential to
find your family and their address in order to
narrow the search, as the
registers are by district). You need a card to use
either of these
libraries, the one for the city library is free, you
just show your
passport. The Szechenyi Library charges a modest
sum for annual membership.
The librarians are helpful though finding an
English speaker Erwin Szabo
is a challenge - go get a student and ask them to
help. In the Szechenyi
Library there are very kind staff members in the
reference rooms who will
find an English speaker. These books are available
on the open shelf so
there is no need to order them. But you do need to
register for a table in
the National Library.

They are indexed by family name which then gives a
district (Roman Numeral)
and address (Street name followed by number) So,
for example, one could
find, "Podvinecz Hermine, maganzo, VI Nagymezo u
33". The index gives
occupation.

Peter Bakos


Hungary SIG #Hungary H-SIG Luncheon and Meeting #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Please let me know if you will be attending the IAJGS Conference in Las
Vegas next month. We're still looking for volunteers to help out with
the SIG Fair on Wednesday, July 13. I would also appreciate knowing if
you plan to attend the H-SIG Luncheon on Monday, July 11, and the H-SIG
Business Meeting at 8:15 am (sorry about that!) on Wednesday, July 13.

Because we recognize that many of you will not be able to join us for
these events, we will be sending the proposed agenda for the H-SIG
business meeting to H-SIG subscribers before the meeting and will also
post the materials that will be distributed at the meeting.

If you are coming to Las Vegas, please fill out the questionnaire
below and e-mail to me off-list at vkahn@kmort.com

Koszonom szepen!

Vivian Kahn, H-SIG Coordinator

Yes, I will be attending the IAJGS Conference ____________

Reservations for H-SIG Luncheon on Monday, July 11 ____________

Yes, I will be present at the H-SIG Business meeting on Wednesday, July
13 _________________

Yes, I will help to staff the H-SIG table at the SIG Fair on Wednesday,
July 13 _________________

Name_____________________________ E-Mail Address __________________


Vandalization in Budapest #hungary

Peter Winter <pjotruska_w@...>
 

Dear h-siggers

On the first opening after Shvies, the Kozma street
cemetery employees observed, that during the hollydays
the most outrageos devastation was made.
As the community leader said, more, than 130 of the
most valuable stones were broken into pieces.
(However, the evaluation of the damages will take a
whole day.)
The mayor of Budapest, Gabor Demszky, offered a ransom
of 1.000,000 HUF ($5,000), for any concludent
information. The Police also offered a ransom of
500,000 HUF.
Regards,
Peter Winter
Budapest-Cluj

Winter Peter
researcher
Budapest-Cluj

Moderator: I hope that Peter and Andras are willing to take messages off-list >from those who want to find out how to help with necessary appairs.


Vandals in a Jewish cemetery in Budapest #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

ET BUDAPEST (Reuters) - Vandals have smashed and knocked over the headstones
of about 130 graves in a Jewish cemetery in Budapest, the head of a
Hungarian Jewish organisation said on Wednesday.
---------------------------------------------------------------
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=PIIPIA4EAR4SACRBAEOCFEY?type=t
opNews&storyID=8796723

I am planning to visit Budapest >from 6-27 to 8-27 2005, and will visit the
cemeteries as well.
The vandalism is really nothing new, the condition of the cemeteries is very
disappointing to say the least. Upon my return I will post on my website
pictures.

Leslie Eloed
California USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Vandalization in Budapest #hungary

Peter Winter <pjotruska_w@...>
 

Dear h-siggers

On the first opening after Shvies, the Kozma street
cemetery employees observed, that during the hollydays
the most outrageos devastation was made.
As the community leader said, more, than 130 of the
most valuable stones were broken into pieces.
(However, the evaluation of the damages will take a
whole day.)
The mayor of Budapest, Gabor Demszky, offered a ransom
of 1.000,000 HUF ($5,000), for any concludent
information. The Police also offered a ransom of
500,000 HUF.
Regards,
Peter Winter
Budapest-Cluj

Winter Peter
researcher
Budapest-Cluj

Moderator: I hope that Peter and Andras are willing to take messages off-list >from those who want to find out how to help with necessary appairs.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Vandals in a Jewish cemetery in Budapest #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

ET BUDAPEST (Reuters) - Vandals have smashed and knocked over the headstones
of about 130 graves in a Jewish cemetery in Budapest, the head of a
Hungarian Jewish organisation said on Wednesday.
---------------------------------------------------------------
http://reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=PIIPIA4EAR4SACRBAEOCFEY?type=t
opNews&storyID=8796723

I am planning to visit Budapest >from 6-27 to 8-27 2005, and will visit the
cemeteries as well.
The vandalism is really nothing new, the condition of the cemeteries is very
disappointing to say the least. Upon my return I will post on my website
pictures.

Leslie Eloed
California USA


NAME CHANGE "PETITION DOCUMENT" #hungary

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Andras,

Re your message of 13 June (below) would you know how to go about =
obtaining
the petition document you mention below? I have the register indicating =
my
family's name change, but would love to see the application.

Thanks.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com

Subject: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY
From: Andras Koltai <kolamcg@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

Just a few thought about name changes.

Why I really love the movie Sunshine, it is just a movie. I believe it =
was
more difficult for someone toget his surname changed than just walk into =
an
office and sign a book. People had to write a petition (to the Ministry =
of
State); they had to submit papers from
the local municipality proving they were trustworthy people; etc etc.=20

I have such a list of documents one of my ancestors filed in at the =
Ministry
when asking for his surname get changed in the 1880's. These papers are
handwritten, addressed to the Minister himself (signed as "Your =
Excellency's
Humble Subject") and the family
also had to pay some local tax ("illet=E9k").

When the changing of the surname went through, it was then recorded in =
the
birth certificate of the person.

Kind regards,
Andras Koltai
Budapest


Kozma cemetery #hungary

Andras Koltai <kolamcg@...>
 

Just a short and sad notice - the central Jewish
cemetery in Budapest, Kozma utca has been vandalised
over the weekend. Some 130 stones are affected.

Andras Koltai
Budapest


Hungary SIG #Hungary NAME CHANGE "PETITION DOCUMENT" #hungary

B. Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Andras,

Re your message of 13 June (below) would you know how to go about =
obtaining
the petition document you mention below? I have the register indicating =
my
family's name change, but would love to see the application.

Thanks.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com

Subject: NEV VALTOZTATASOK - NAME CHANGES - PECS UNIVERSITY
From: Andras Koltai <kolamcg@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 04:40:58 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 4

Just a few thought about name changes.

Why I really love the movie Sunshine, it is just a movie. I believe it =
was
more difficult for someone toget his surname changed than just walk into =
an
office and sign a book. People had to write a petition (to the Ministry =
of
State); they had to submit papers from
the local municipality proving they were trustworthy people; etc etc.=20

I have such a list of documents one of my ancestors filed in at the =
Ministry
when asking for his surname get changed in the 1880's. These papers are
handwritten, addressed to the Minister himself (signed as "Your =
Excellency's
Humble Subject") and the family
also had to pay some local tax ("illet=E9k").

When the changing of the surname went through, it was then recorded in =
the
birth certificate of the person.

Kind regards,
Andras Koltai
Budapest


Hungary SIG #Hungary Kozma cemetery #hungary

Andras Koltai <kolamcg@...>
 

Just a short and sad notice - the central Jewish
cemetery in Budapest, Kozma utca has been vandalised
over the weekend. Some 130 stones are affected.

Andras Koltai
Budapest


SITE CITE - Frankfurt 1933-1945 website #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

I just learned about this website documents Frankfurt's history during the
Third Reich:

www.frankfurt1933-1945.de/

It was created by the Institut fuer Stadtgeschichte [City History] with the
help of Monica Kingreen and Gottfried Koessler of the Fritz Bauer Institut,
Michael Lenarz of the Juedisches Museum Frankfurt, and Dr. Juergen Steen of
the Historisches Museum Frankfurt.

There's a lot there -- but all in German. It would be a great help if those
to whom German comes easy would explore the site and point out pages of
special interest to GerSIGgers. Some that I found...

... by clicking "Beitrage" (on the left) and "Juedisches Leben und
Judenverfolgung" (along the top)

- Deportationen

Deportationen von Juden aus Frankfurt 1941-1945
(Deportations of Jews >from Frankfurt 1941-1945 [a tabular overview])

- Institutionen juedischen Lebens

Der Bockenheimer Juedische Friedhof
(The Bockenheimer Jewish Cemetery)
Der Alte Juedische Friedhof an der Battonnstrasse
(The Old Jewish Cemetery on Battonnstrasse)

- Hilfe zur Recherche

Tipps zur Recherche ueber juedische Frankfurter, die in der NS-Zeit
verfolgt wurden (Tips on Researching Jews >from Frankfurt Who Were
Persecuted Under the Nazis)

... by clicking "Topographie" (on the left) and and "Juedisches Leben und
Judenverfolgung" (along the top)

- Aktueller Plan
(A detailed city map highlighting Jewish sites.)

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills (Long Island), NY RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


German SIG #Germany SITE CITE - Frankfurt 1933-1945 website #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

I just learned about this website documents Frankfurt's history during the
Third Reich:

www.frankfurt1933-1945.de/

It was created by the Institut fuer Stadtgeschichte [City History] with the
help of Monica Kingreen and Gottfried Koessler of the Fritz Bauer Institut,
Michael Lenarz of the Juedisches Museum Frankfurt, and Dr. Juergen Steen of
the Historisches Museum Frankfurt.

There's a lot there -- but all in German. It would be a great help if those
to whom German comes easy would explore the site and point out pages of
special interest to GerSIGgers. Some that I found...

... by clicking "Beitrage" (on the left) and "Juedisches Leben und
Judenverfolgung" (along the top)

- Deportationen

Deportationen von Juden aus Frankfurt 1941-1945
(Deportations of Jews >from Frankfurt 1941-1945 [a tabular overview])

- Institutionen juedischen Lebens

Der Bockenheimer Juedische Friedhof
(The Bockenheimer Jewish Cemetery)
Der Alte Juedische Friedhof an der Battonnstrasse
(The Old Jewish Cemetery on Battonnstrasse)

- Hilfe zur Recherche

Tipps zur Recherche ueber juedische Frankfurter, die in der NS-Zeit
verfolgt wurden (Tips on Researching Jews >from Frankfurt Who Were
Persecuted Under the Nazis)

... by clicking "Topographie" (on the left) and and "Juedisches Leben und
Judenverfolgung" (along the top)

- Aktueller Plan
(A detailed city map highlighting Jewish sites.)

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills (Long Island), NY RSteinig@suffolk.lib.ny.us


Halva #galicia

Pam Weston <pweston@...>
 

Halva Heaven is Turkey.

Since human migration routes came >from the south through the area of
Iraq, Turkey and the Balkans, (VERY old Genealogy: Abraham and Sarah
lived in Haram, now Turkey on the Syrian boarder. Abraham's father is
said to have died there. Their son Isaac's wife Rebecca was >from
there. Genesis 24 Isaac and Rebecca's son Jacob lived there, married
Leah and Rachel. They had eleven of their twelve sons there.) Halva
was introduced >from the south.

"Halva is a confection or sweetmeat originating in the Balkans and
eastern Mediterranean regions."

Halva is easy transported even in heat although, when I buy it, it
never makes it intact for more than a moment!

Pam Weston
Chicago


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Halva #galicia

Pam Weston <pweston@...>
 

Halva Heaven is Turkey.

Since human migration routes came >from the south through the area of
Iraq, Turkey and the Balkans, (VERY old Genealogy: Abraham and Sarah
lived in Haram, now Turkey on the Syrian boarder. Abraham's father is
said to have died there. Their son Isaac's wife Rebecca was >from
there. Genesis 24 Isaac and Rebecca's son Jacob lived there, married
Leah and Rachel. They had eleven of their twelve sons there.) Halva
was introduced >from the south.

"Halva is a confection or sweetmeat originating in the Balkans and
eastern Mediterranean regions."

Halva is easy transported even in heat although, when I buy it, it
never makes it intact for more than a moment!

Pam Weston
Chicago


Polish translation request #galicia

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I would be most grateful if someone would assist me with a translation of
the following marriage record of my GGG-parents. I obtained the record from
an LDS film which I was led to >from the JRI - Poland index. The information
I have >from the index is as follows:

Groom: Szulim PULTUSKIER, father: Ick (with accent mark over the "c" - I
have been told this is a variation of the name "Yitschak")
Bride: Frajda BUCH, father: Abraham.
Year: 1835
Place: Ciechanow, Poland

If a complete translation is too burdensome, the next best thing would be if
a generous person would help me extract any information of interest, such as
names of parents, towns, ages, occupations, etc. The record is written in
old Polish script, and an acquaintance of mine who reads Polish was unable
to decipher it. Any referrals to individuals who might be able to help me
would be appreciated as well.

The View Mate file is: VM6272 and can be found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D6272

In accordance with our list guidelines, kindly reply to me directly at
marc@patentstation.com rather than to everyone on the list. I look forward
to any responses, and I thank anyone who makes an attempt in advance.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois (Chicago suburb), U.S.A.
Reply to Email: marc@patentstation.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Polish translation request #galicia

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear fellow researchers,

I would be most grateful if someone would assist me with a translation of
the following marriage record of my GGG-parents. I obtained the record from
an LDS film which I was led to >from the JRI - Poland index. The information
I have >from the index is as follows:

Groom: Szulim PULTUSKIER, father: Ick (with accent mark over the "c" - I
have been told this is a variation of the name "Yitschak")
Bride: Frajda BUCH, father: Abraham.
Year: 1835
Place: Ciechanow, Poland

If a complete translation is too burdensome, the next best thing would be if
a generous person would help me extract any information of interest, such as
names of parents, towns, ages, occupations, etc. The record is written in
old Polish script, and an acquaintance of mine who reads Polish was unable
to decipher it. Any referrals to individuals who might be able to help me
would be appreciated as well.

The View Mate file is: VM6272 and can be found at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=3D6272

In accordance with our list guidelines, kindly reply to me directly at
marc@patentstation.com rather than to everyone on the list. I look forward
to any responses, and I thank anyone who makes an attempt in advance.

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois (Chicago suburb), U.S.A.
Reply to Email: marc@patentstation.com


looking for driver Warsaw-Lodz-Warsaw and trying to get a 1913 birth certificate #lodz #poland

Marsha P. Mirkin <mpmir@...>
 

We are trying to find a driver/guide >from Warsaw-Lodz-Warsaw in August and
would appreciate any names of drivers and any other info you think will be
useful. We're also considering a driver >from Prague-Krakow and >from
Warsaw-Prague and would be appreciative of any help.
I would like to get a copy of my mother's birth certificate (1913) by the
time we leave for Lodz (Aug 10), but it seems that birth certificates are
considered private after 1900. Has anybody been able to get this
information? I would also like to try to find my grandparents' marriage
certificate, even though I'm not sure they married in Lodz (I think they
did--originally >from Warsaw). Thanks,
Marsha Mirkin


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland looking for driver Warsaw-Lodz-Warsaw and trying to get a 1913 birth certificate #lodz #poland

Marsha P. Mirkin <mpmir@...>
 

We are trying to find a driver/guide >from Warsaw-Lodz-Warsaw in August and
would appreciate any names of drivers and any other info you think will be
useful. We're also considering a driver >from Prague-Krakow and >from
Warsaw-Prague and would be appreciative of any help.
I would like to get a copy of my mother's birth certificate (1913) by the
time we leave for Lodz (Aug 10), but it seems that birth certificates are
considered private after 1900. Has anybody been able to get this
information? I would also like to try to find my grandparents' marriage
certificate, even though I'm not sure they married in Lodz (I think they
did--originally >from Warsaw). Thanks,
Marsha Mirkin