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Re: Jewish Castes #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Could you explain what you mean by "offer no real privileges". We know of
many priviliges that the Priests had and some minor ones that still exist
today.

I believe that the Bible considers a privilege to "Bless the people". They
get a tithe >from all the people etc.

Shabbat Shalom,

Yoni Ben-Ari

----- Original Message -----
From: <MBernet@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Jewish Castes


I would prefer to say that Kohanim and Levi'im have a special status that
offers no real privileges.


Re: Jewish Castes #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:58:02 UTC, sorlen@email.arizona.edu (Steve Orlen)
opined:

Dear Cousins,

Recently, in an aside, someone mentioned Jewish castes other than Kohanim,
Levites, Israelites. I checked the Net, but didn't find anything. As I find
this interesting, would someone point me to a site that would offer some
elaboration?

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ
As I understand the word "caste", it signifies ranked classes of persons,
as in India. Whatever other faults we have as a people, thank G_d we don't
have this one. Kohanim are a subset of the _tribe_ of Levi. That does not
make them a caste in the sense I have described (which is consistent with
the definition in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. Please refrain >from
calling Kohanim and Leviim "castes", and put the concept out of your mind;
the word is entirely inappropriate.

I hope sincerely that this answers your question.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish Castes #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Could you explain what you mean by "offer no real privileges". We know of
many priviliges that the Priests had and some minor ones that still exist
today.

I believe that the Bible considers a privilege to "Bless the people". They
get a tithe >from all the people etc.

Shabbat Shalom,

Yoni Ben-Ari

----- Original Message -----
From: <MBernet@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Jewish Castes


I would prefer to say that Kohanim and Levi'im have a special status that
offers no real privileges.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish Castes #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:58:02 UTC, sorlen@email.arizona.edu (Steve Orlen)
opined:

Dear Cousins,

Recently, in an aside, someone mentioned Jewish castes other than Kohanim,
Levites, Israelites. I checked the Net, but didn't find anything. As I find
this interesting, would someone point me to a site that would offer some
elaboration?

Best, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ
As I understand the word "caste", it signifies ranked classes of persons,
as in India. Whatever other faults we have as a people, thank G_d we don't
have this one. Kohanim are a subset of the _tribe_ of Levi. That does not
make them a caste in the sense I have described (which is consistent with
the definition in the Merriam-Webster dictionary. Please refrain >from
calling Kohanim and Leviim "castes", and put the concept out of your mind;
the word is entirely inappropriate.

I hope sincerely that this answers your question.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: What are Moyles? #general

Jules Levin
 

At 12:47 PM 6/16/2005, you wrote:
...Neither Rav nor Reb is an
"English honorific"
Dear Genners:
This discussion of "English/Yiddish/Hebrew equivalents" reminded me of an
amusing encounter I just had with an equivalent in Saul Bellow's Adventures
of Augie March, which I am finally reading after about 20 years of
procrastination. In a long description by Augie of the food he ate in his
youth, there appears the dish "tripe stuffed with crumbs". Since I
consider myself more or less familiar with the American Jewish cuisine, I
was taken aback. After a minute of pondering I realized he was referring
to kishke! By the time of his later novels (Augie March was written in the
early '50's), Bellow was using more obscure words than kishke without
bothering to translate for the "nations".

Jules Levin
Los Angeles

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately unless your responses are
of clear genealogical relevance.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What are Moyles? #general

Jules Levin
 

At 12:47 PM 6/16/2005, you wrote:
...Neither Rav nor Reb is an
"English honorific"
Dear Genners:
This discussion of "English/Yiddish/Hebrew equivalents" reminded me of an
amusing encounter I just had with an equivalent in Saul Bellow's Adventures
of Augie March, which I am finally reading after about 20 years of
procrastination. In a long description by Augie of the food he ate in his
youth, there appears the dish "tripe stuffed with crumbs". Since I
consider myself more or less familiar with the American Jewish cuisine, I
was taken aback. After a minute of pondering I realized he was referring
to kishke! By the time of his later novels (Augie March was written in the
early '50's), Bellow was using more obscure words than kishke without
bothering to translate for the "nations".

Jules Levin
Los Angeles

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately unless your responses are
of clear genealogical relevance.


Rabbinic Matzevot #rabbinic

Cnydorf@...
 

Dear Ravsiggers,

Please forgive what may be naive questions. I have been looking at
matseyves and finding the abbreviation 'hey reysh beyz' before names
and the abbreviation 'beyz double apostrophe reysh' between the
names of fathers and sons. Am I correct in assuming that the first
abbreviation means 'rabbi' and the second 'son of rabbi'?

Regards
Charles Nydorf


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbinic Matzevot #rabbinic

Cnydorf@...
 

Dear Ravsiggers,

Please forgive what may be naive questions. I have been looking at
matseyves and finding the abbreviation 'hey reysh beyz' before names
and the abbreviation 'beyz double apostrophe reysh' between the
names of fathers and sons. Am I correct in assuming that the first
abbreviation means 'rabbi' and the second 'son of rabbi'?

Regards
Charles Nydorf


SCHINDLER from Brzesko #rabbinic

Miriam Klein <mpklein@...>
 

Hi,

I'm new to this SIG. Does anyone have access to Meorei Galicia? I
see on JewishGen that the name SCHINDLER is listed. I've traced my
Hungarian (Hajdunanas) SCHINDLER family back to Brzesko (Brigel),
Galicia and family lore has it that my ggg-grandfather Moshe
Elimelech SCHINDLER (d. 1865) was >from a rabbinic family. He was
married to Genendel Liba bas Shaul Boruch HAMMER. Their children
were Yosef, Shevach, Zisel, Chana Perel, and Rochel.

Thanks,

Miriam Klein


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic SCHINDLER from Brzesko #rabbinic

Miriam Klein <mpklein@...>
 

Hi,

I'm new to this SIG. Does anyone have access to Meorei Galicia? I
see on JewishGen that the name SCHINDLER is listed. I've traced my
Hungarian (Hajdunanas) SCHINDLER family back to Brzesko (Brigel),
Galicia and family lore has it that my ggg-grandfather Moshe
Elimelech SCHINDLER (d. 1865) was >from a rabbinic family. He was
married to Genendel Liba bas Shaul Boruch HAMMER. Their children
were Yosef, Shevach, Zisel, Chana Perel, and Rochel.

Thanks,

Miriam Klein


LitvakSIG Digest for Litvak genealogy inquiries #general

Joel Ratner
 

This is to serve as a reminder to Litvaks reading the JGen Digest to
remember to subscribe to the LitvakSIG Digest. It's free, and it also
contains certain content prohibited >from being published in this forum. That
is to say, the details of LitvakSIG projects must remain within the
framework of our own publication and may not be published here. So remember,
if you have not already done so, please subscribe to the LitvakSIG Digest.

Also, please post and post often to the LitvakSIG Digest. There are many a
Litvak researcher with information which may be of use to you. The best way
to find information on the specifics of Litvak genealogy is through our
group and its publications.

Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna District Research Group


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LitvakSIG Digest for Litvak genealogy inquiries #general

Joel Ratner
 

This is to serve as a reminder to Litvaks reading the JGen Digest to
remember to subscribe to the LitvakSIG Digest. It's free, and it also
contains certain content prohibited >from being published in this forum. That
is to say, the details of LitvakSIG projects must remain within the
framework of our own publication and may not be published here. So remember,
if you have not already done so, please subscribe to the LitvakSIG Digest.

Also, please post and post often to the LitvakSIG Digest. There are many a
Litvak researcher with information which may be of use to you. The best way
to find information on the specifics of Litvak genealogy is through our
group and its publications.

Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna District Research Group


Re: Looking for Jewish Cemetery in Mendig Germany #general

EllnKahn@...
 

To Tuvia McKane:

My father's maternal ancestors are buried in the Jewish Cemetery in Mendig,
Germany, where the family had lived for at least 300 years. Mendig, as you may
know, is a very small village (actually until last century, there were two
towns: Obermendig and Niedermendig) near Mayen, Germany.

While researching my family during the last 25 years, I have been to Mendig
twice. My father and one of his brothers fled Germany in the 1930s. As in
most towns in Germany, the Jewish cemetery is kept locked. The key and the
records are held by the Mayor (Burgermeister) in the Town Hall (Rathaus).

If you are looking for confirmation of the gravesites, my suggestion is that
you write to the Burgermeister. The letter can be in English but be very
specific with your question including your ancestors' full names, dates of birth
and death. You will want to include a return envelope with possibly two
International Coupons. Since the village is very small there is no guarantee that
you will get a reply.

If you want a photograph of the Jewish cemetery, please send me your complete
address and I will make a copy for you. While there, I visited each and
every grave but I do not recall seeing the names Isaak and Eva Moses. Almost all
of the graves are of my ancestors whose last names were "May." In case we may
be related, what documentation do you have regarding these ancestors? Could
the surname "Moses" be Eva's father's name?

Coincidentally the only relative who was born and lived in Mendig until his
family fled Germany in 1939 is my cousin who lives in Greensboro NC. I am
certain that he would be glad to speak to you. Please email me personally.

Ellen Lukas Kahn
Homewood, IL
EllnKahn@aol.com

----
Subject: Looking forJewish cemetery in Mendig Germany
From: "Tuvia" <tmckane@triad.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005

Hello,
My G G Grandparents Issak and Eva Moses lived and were buried in
Mendig/Eifel Germany. I am looking for a way to contact the Jewish cemetery
in Mendig.. Any ideas??.

Thank you

Tuvia McKane
Greensboro, NC USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for Jewish Cemetery in Mendig Germany #general

EllnKahn@...
 

To Tuvia McKane:

My father's maternal ancestors are buried in the Jewish Cemetery in Mendig,
Germany, where the family had lived for at least 300 years. Mendig, as you may
know, is a very small village (actually until last century, there were two
towns: Obermendig and Niedermendig) near Mayen, Germany.

While researching my family during the last 25 years, I have been to Mendig
twice. My father and one of his brothers fled Germany in the 1930s. As in
most towns in Germany, the Jewish cemetery is kept locked. The key and the
records are held by the Mayor (Burgermeister) in the Town Hall (Rathaus).

If you are looking for confirmation of the gravesites, my suggestion is that
you write to the Burgermeister. The letter can be in English but be very
specific with your question including your ancestors' full names, dates of birth
and death. You will want to include a return envelope with possibly two
International Coupons. Since the village is very small there is no guarantee that
you will get a reply.

If you want a photograph of the Jewish cemetery, please send me your complete
address and I will make a copy for you. While there, I visited each and
every grave but I do not recall seeing the names Isaak and Eva Moses. Almost all
of the graves are of my ancestors whose last names were "May." In case we may
be related, what documentation do you have regarding these ancestors? Could
the surname "Moses" be Eva's father's name?

Coincidentally the only relative who was born and lived in Mendig until his
family fled Germany in 1939 is my cousin who lives in Greensboro NC. I am
certain that he would be glad to speak to you. Please email me personally.

Ellen Lukas Kahn
Homewood, IL
EllnKahn@aol.com

----
Subject: Looking forJewish cemetery in Mendig Germany
From: "Tuvia" <tmckane@triad.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005

Hello,
My G G Grandparents Issak and Eva Moses lived and were buried in
Mendig/Eifel Germany. I am looking for a way to contact the Jewish cemetery
in Mendig.. Any ideas??.

Thank you

Tuvia McKane
Greensboro, NC USA


JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry #general

Professor Michael Notis
 

Hello! I have a specific problem with a search for the surname NOTIS
which does not come up with anything, even if I use Daitch-Mokotoff
Soundex (I get lots of near names but no NOTIS).
However, there are NOTIS names on the old CD ROM, which means they got
left out. I know there are NOTIS burials at Mt.Ararat in NY so something
seems in error?

Michael Notis


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JewishGen Online Worldwide Burial Registry #general

Professor Michael Notis
 

Hello! I have a specific problem with a search for the surname NOTIS
which does not come up with anything, even if I use Daitch-Mokotoff
Soundex (I get lots of near names but no NOTIS).
However, there are NOTIS names on the old CD ROM, which means they got
left out. I know there are NOTIS burials at Mt.Ararat in NY so something
seems in error?

Michael Notis


LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project/Vilna District Research Group on the road - Israel #general

Joel Ratner
 

I will be on the road this summer in Israel [July 29 - August 15]. During
part of this time, I will be available to individuals for consultation about
the LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project and the Vilna Research District
Group activities.

If there are groups in Israel wishing to host a presentation of the
LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project or the Vilna District records,
please contact me at Joelrat1@hotmail.com.

Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna District Research Group


Mila Begun #general

Sam Lenger
 

To the jewishgen family
I was very sorry receiving the news of her passing.
I work with her doing data entry for Mezritsh Podalski >from the beginning to
the end and had the opportunity to feel the human being she was. It will be
a great loss not only for her immediate family but also for the Jewishgen
family.
I review in my inbox all the mails I received >from her and in some of them
she wrote pieces of information about her family.
I think this may be of sentimental value for the family and am ready to
e-mail this to someone that can forward it to the family.
With the expression of our condolences to the family
Sam Lenger sdfisr@zahav.net.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project/Vilna District Research Group on the road - Israel #general

Joel Ratner
 

I will be on the road this summer in Israel [July 29 - August 15]. During
part of this time, I will be available to individuals for consultation about
the LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project and the Vilna Research District
Group activities.

If there are groups in Israel wishing to host a presentation of the
LitvakSIG Vital Records Indexing Project or the Vilna District records,
please contact me at Joelrat1@hotmail.com.

Joel Ratner
Coordinator, Vilna District Research Group


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mila Begun #general

Sam Lenger
 

To the jewishgen family
I was very sorry receiving the news of her passing.
I work with her doing data entry for Mezritsh Podalski >from the beginning to
the end and had the opportunity to feel the human being she was. It will be
a great loss not only for her immediate family but also for the Jewishgen
family.
I review in my inbox all the mails I received >from her and in some of them
she wrote pieces of information about her family.
I think this may be of sentimental value for the family and am ready to
e-mail this to someone that can forward it to the family.
With the expression of our condolences to the family
Sam Lenger sdfisr@zahav.net.il