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Re: I'm stumped! (need records with parents' names) #general

Adelle Gloger
 

On 6/3/2005 Marilyn Feingold asked:

<< Are there other forms or records
where she might have been asked to provide her parents names? I know she
also lived in Brooklyn in 1906. Would her maiden name be on birth records
for her children? Would synagogues she attended have this information? I'm
really stumped! Thanks for any creative ideas.>>

Yes, the mother's maiden name *usually* appers on the the child's birth
certificate.

Also, if she was maried in the USA the names of the bride's and groom's
parents would appear on the marriage license application.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio (Cleveland)
agloger@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:I'm stumped! (need records with parents' names) #general

Adelle Gloger
 

On 6/3/2005 Marilyn Feingold asked:

<< Are there other forms or records
where she might have been asked to provide her parents names? I know she
also lived in Brooklyn in 1906. Would her maiden name be on birth records
for her children? Would synagogues she attended have this information? I'm
really stumped! Thanks for any creative ideas.>>

Yes, the mother's maiden name *usually* appers on the the child's birth
certificate.

Also, if she was maried in the USA the names of the bride's and groom's
parents would appear on the marriage license application.

Adelle Weintraub Gloger
Shaker Hts., Ohio (Cleveland)
agloger@aol.com


The Minsk Yizkor Book - Minsk, Jewish Mother-City #belarus

tonys9999
 

The Minsk Yizkor Book - Minsk, Jewish Mother-City is on the JewishGen
website at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/minsk/minsk.html

I have recently begun work in co-ordinating the translation of this book for
JewishGen.

30 chapters have already been translated, leaving another 150 to be tackled.

I am now compiling a list of the next ten chapters to be translated, and I
would appreciate any feedback >from anyone who wishes to have a particular
chapter translated.

Donations to JewishGen-erosity will be appreciated, particularly if they are
sufficient to fund a dedication plaque.

Please reply direct to me at tony.reese@mail.com unless you have a comment
for the whole SIG.

Tony Reese

West Coker, Somerset, England


Belarus SIG #Belarus The Minsk Yizkor Book - Minsk, Jewish Mother-City #belarus

tonys9999
 

The Minsk Yizkor Book - Minsk, Jewish Mother-City is on the JewishGen
website at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/minsk/minsk.html

I have recently begun work in co-ordinating the translation of this book for
JewishGen.

30 chapters have already been translated, leaving another 150 to be tackled.

I am now compiling a list of the next ten chapters to be translated, and I
would appreciate any feedback >from anyone who wishes to have a particular
chapter translated.

Donations to JewishGen-erosity will be appreciated, particularly if they are
sufficient to fund a dedication plaque.

Please reply direct to me at tony.reese@mail.com unless you have a comment
for the whole SIG.

Tony Reese

West Coker, Somerset, England


Article: NY Times - Ashkenazi genes and intelligence #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Today's online New York Times offers an interesting article,
"Researchers say intelligence and diseases may be linked in
Ashkenazic genes."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/03/science/03gene.html

A paper by University of Utah scientists accepted by the Journal
of Biosocial Science (UK), proposes that an unusual genetic
disease pattern (listed in the article) seen among
central/northern European origin Jews is the result of enhanced
intellectual ability by natural selection, due to medieval
restrictions limiting the community to work requiring advanced
mental agility.
Interesting also are the comments and reactions of other
researchers to the hypothesis.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net


Vinnitsa archives #general

Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
 

I need marriage records for Anna Milgrom >from Tulchin who married Jacob
Korman >from Tulchin. They would have been married about 1890 in Tulchin.
Does anyone know how I can get this information >from the archives in
Vinnitsa? I am specifically trying to learn the names of Anna
Milgrom/Milgram's parents. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Article: NY Times - Ashkenazi genes and intelligence #general

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Today's online New York Times offers an interesting article,
"Researchers say intelligence and diseases may be linked in
Ashkenazic genes."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/03/science/03gene.html

A paper by University of Utah scientists accepted by the Journal
of Biosocial Science (UK), proposes that an unusual genetic
disease pattern (listed in the article) seen among
central/northern European origin Jews is the result of enhanced
intellectual ability by natural selection, due to medieval
restrictions limiting the community to work requiring advanced
mental agility.
Interesting also are the comments and reactions of other
researchers to the hypothesis.

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vinnitsa archives #general

Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
 

I need marriage records for Anna Milgrom >from Tulchin who married Jacob
Korman >from Tulchin. They would have been married about 1890 in Tulchin.
Does anyone know how I can get this information >from the archives in
Vinnitsa? I am specifically trying to learn the names of Anna
Milgrom/Milgram's parents. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


Re: adoption question #general

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Adoption records are not public. They are private and usually sealed by the
courts. Most US records that recent are not considered public.

Linda Altman
familysearch@bellsouth.net

In doing family research trying to locate someone who was
adopted in 1960's or 1970's are those records public information?
Is it too recent?

thanks
Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman
Tigard, OR
...
Sender: Jacqueline Myra Lerner-Aderman <saralynn7@yahoo.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: adoption question #general

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Adoption records are not public. They are private and usually sealed by the
courts. Most US records that recent are not considered public.

Linda Altman
familysearch@bellsouth.net

In doing family research trying to locate someone who was
adopted in 1960's or 1970's are those records public information?
Is it too recent?

thanks
Jacqueline Lerner-Aderman
Tigard, OR
...
Sender: Jacqueline Myra Lerner-Aderman <saralynn7@yahoo.com>


Family I.D. #general

Viktor Lewin
 

Subject : Photo I.D.
Date : June 4 , 2005 .
from : Viktor Lewin < viklewin@shaw.ca >
Message : I need help in identifying this Jewish family in pre-W.W.II
Losice , Poland . They may belong to the Steinman family . The photo may be
viewed as Viewmate # 6227 . Thank you .

MODERATOR NOTE: The photo is at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6227
Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family I.D. #general

Viktor Lewin
 

Subject : Photo I.D.
Date : June 4 , 2005 .
from : Viktor Lewin < viklewin@shaw.ca >
Message : I need help in identifying this Jewish family in pre-W.W.II
Losice , Poland . They may belong to the Steinman family . The photo may be
viewed as Viewmate # 6227 . Thank you .

MODERATOR NOTE: The photo is at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6227
Please reply privately.


Two word Polish translation viewmate VM6220 #general

NormK12065
 

JGeners,

The two dark words are in the upper right hand corner of a Polish birth
document. I don't know if they are significant relative to the contents of the
record. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Norm Katz
Monroe Township, NJ

MODERATOR NOTE: The document is at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6220
Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Two word Polish translation viewmate VM6220 #general

NormK12065
 

JGeners,

The two dark words are in the upper right hand corner of a Polish birth
document. I don't know if they are significant relative to the contents of the
record. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Norm Katz
Monroe Township, NJ

MODERATOR NOTE: The document is at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=6220
Please reply privately.


Re: Cohanim and their rightful name. #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Judith Romney Wegner wrote on 04 jun 2005 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Evertjan Hannivoort wrote:

The deed of my mother's side surname giving ancestor and children ends
thus:

".. lesguels il a fait conserver leurs prenoms respectifs et a signe
avec nous le vingt quatre Decembre mil huit cent onze."

This being a Shabbas [probably] compelled him to sign the deed only in
Hebrew.
Actually, it is far more likely that he was Yiddish-speaking, and
perhaps (like many Jews at that time) was literate only in Yiddish,
and therefore signed in Yiddish. Yiddish is written in Hebrew
characters.-- and if his name was in fact a standard Hebrew biblical
name like Jacob or Joseph (as was typical for Jewish males at that
time) he would indeed have written the actual name in Hebrew, as you
say.
This was the original assumption in our family, till we found the day was
a Saturday.

However, this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he
signed the deed on a Saturday, as you seemed to simply. An orthodox
Jew does not write on Shabbat -- not even in Hebrew! Writing is one
of the types of "work" forbidden on Shabbat.
I disagree, Judith.

I never asked him the level of his orthodoxy. ;-}
In that branch of our family one used to set their own rules.

However:

Remember the country was occupied by a foreign power, that could order
like it wished. He would have been very annoyed having to sign on a
shabbas, and his signing in Hebrew could easily have been a deed if
obstruction camouflaged as an incompetence of writing in the vulgar.
An open refusal could have been dangerous.

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Cohanim and their rightful name. #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Judith Romney Wegner wrote on 04 jun 2005 in soc.genealogy.jewish:
Evertjan Hannivoort wrote:

The deed of my mother's side surname giving ancestor and children ends
thus:

".. lesguels il a fait conserver leurs prenoms respectifs et a signe
avec nous le vingt quatre Decembre mil huit cent onze."

This being a Shabbas [probably] compelled him to sign the deed only in
Hebrew.
Actually, it is far more likely that he was Yiddish-speaking, and
perhaps (like many Jews at that time) was literate only in Yiddish,
and therefore signed in Yiddish. Yiddish is written in Hebrew
characters.-- and if his name was in fact a standard Hebrew biblical
name like Jacob or Joseph (as was typical for Jewish males at that
time) he would indeed have written the actual name in Hebrew, as you
say.
This was the original assumption in our family, till we found the day was
a Saturday.

However, this has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he
signed the deed on a Saturday, as you seemed to simply. An orthodox
Jew does not write on Shabbat -- not even in Hebrew! Writing is one
of the types of "work" forbidden on Shabbat.
I disagree, Judith.

I never asked him the level of his orthodoxy. ;-}
In that branch of our family one used to set their own rules.

However:

Remember the country was occupied by a foreign power, that could order
like it wished. He would have been very annoyed having to sign on a
shabbas, and his signing in Hebrew could easily have been a deed if
obstruction camouflaged as an incompetence of writing in the vulgar.
An open refusal could have been dangerous.

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress)


Re: Cohanim and their rightful name. #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>

The deed of my mother's side surnamegiving ancestor and children ends
thus:

".. lesguels il a fait conserver leurs prénoms respectifs et a signé avec
nous le vingt quatre Décembre mil huit cent onze."

This being a Shabbas [probably] compelled him to sign the deed only in
Hebrew.
According to an on line calendar at
http://www.travelfurther.net/dates/datesrus.asp
this date - 24 December 1811 was a Tuesday.

Lisa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cohanim and their rightful name. #general

Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Evertjan." <exjxw.hannivoort@interxnl.net>

The deed of my mother's side surnamegiving ancestor and children ends
thus:

".. lesguels il a fait conserver leurs prénoms respectifs et a signé avec
nous le vingt quatre Décembre mil huit cent onze."

This being a Shabbas [probably] compelled him to sign the deed only in
Hebrew.
According to an on line calendar at
http://www.travelfurther.net/dates/datesrus.asp
this date - 24 December 1811 was a Tuesday.

Lisa


Re: Lviv, Ukraine Archives Reported to be Closed #galicia

Brian J. Lenius <brian@...>
 

We have information directly >from the Director General of the State
Committee on Archives of Ukraine in correspondence dated June 2nd stating:

"I am afraid the Historical Archives will be still closed for researchers at
that time [September]. We hope the checking to be completed in October."
(Dr. Hennadai Boriak)

There is also a newly posted short announcement of the closing at:
http://www.archives.gov.ua/Eng/Lviv.php

The link provided by Mark Halpern does give detailed information surrounding
the nature of the theft and the closing of the L'viv archive at:
http://www.archives.gov.ua/Eng/Archives/Lviv.php

This is terrible news for the archives, the people of Ukraine, and
researchers wishing to have access through the public reading room at
archives. It highlights the gravity of the situation that results >from the
theft of documents not only to the perpetrator but to all that use the
archival system. The Archival Administration is urging anyone who observes
or has knowledge of any suspicious historical documents being sold to
contact them immediately.

Thank you Mark for bringing this important matter to the attention of the
list.

Brian J. Lenius
Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Lviv, Ukraine Archives Reported to be Closed #galicia

Brian J. Lenius <brian@...>
 

We have information directly >from the Director General of the State
Committee on Archives of Ukraine in correspondence dated June 2nd stating:

"I am afraid the Historical Archives will be still closed for researchers at
that time [September]. We hope the checking to be completed in October."
(Dr. Hennadai Boriak)

There is also a newly posted short announcement of the closing at:
http://www.archives.gov.ua/Eng/Lviv.php

The link provided by Mark Halpern does give detailed information surrounding
the nature of the theft and the closing of the L'viv archive at:
http://www.archives.gov.ua/Eng/Archives/Lviv.php

This is terrible news for the archives, the people of Ukraine, and
researchers wishing to have access through the public reading room at
archives. It highlights the gravity of the situation that results >from the
theft of documents not only to the perpetrator but to all that use the
archival system. The Archival Administration is urging anyone who observes
or has knowledge of any suspicious historical documents being sold to
contact them immediately.

Thank you Mark for bringing this important matter to the attention of the
list.

Brian J. Lenius
Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada