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Re: Should call? #general

KSL <resume@...>
 

Leslie,

Another incorrect assumption - illness is not the "only possible reasons (sic) for
lack of contact at this point".

Perhaps all your details, including your phone number were on his computer and for
some reason he no longer has access to it (e.g. the hard drive crashed or the
computer was stolen or wrecked in a fire and he didn't have a backup).

Why are you hesitating? Pick up the phone, call him and verify once and for all
exactly what the situation is rather than mess around speculating and jumping to
possibly incorrect conclusions.

What is the worst thing that could happen if you call? He can tell you that he has
decided to no longer communicate with you on the matter and you bid each other
farewell and move on.

Ken Lipworth

"Leslie Weinberg" <artsoul@optonline.net> wrote

Yes, all of what you wrote may be true, but I had also emailed my phone number
to him before he sent the second email, so the only possible reasons for lack of
contact at this point would be illness. I sincerely hope not.


Re: Shoah- New Dutch Website #general

Max & Bertha van Dam <berthavd@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Henriette Mod Roth wrote:

What I like about the site, despite occasional errors, is that it gives
residence addresses. As for mistakes, the webmaster/mistress specifically
acknowledges this possibility and asks readers' help in supplying additional
information. I found it interesting that major funding for the site is
supplied by reparations.
What Henriette says is true, but they only give the last know address of the
people. The Germans made people move to Amsterdam in certain aeria's, so it does
not say much to me as I know the city (my birth place) very well.

Though the site is partly in Dutch, it is not difficult to find out what is
meant.

Although I now live in Israel, I speak Dutch daily, as we only moved to
Israel 8 years ago.
I am willing to help people find their relatives in Holland.

Just mail me (name, birthdate,etc) and I will be of help for you.

Bertha van Dam
Rechovot
Israel


Re: Shoah- New Dutch Website #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Henriette Roth wrote:

Further to Bertha van Dam's and Irene's messages regarding the Dutch site, let
me point out that the web site is in Dutch,
Not completely true.

<http://www.joodsmonument.nl/index.php?lang=en>

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Should call? #general

KSL <resume@...>
 

Leslie,

Another incorrect assumption - illness is not the "only possible reasons (sic) for
lack of contact at this point".

Perhaps all your details, including your phone number were on his computer and for
some reason he no longer has access to it (e.g. the hard drive crashed or the
computer was stolen or wrecked in a fire and he didn't have a backup).

Why are you hesitating? Pick up the phone, call him and verify once and for all
exactly what the situation is rather than mess around speculating and jumping to
possibly incorrect conclusions.

What is the worst thing that could happen if you call? He can tell you that he has
decided to no longer communicate with you on the matter and you bid each other
farewell and move on.

Ken Lipworth

"Leslie Weinberg" <artsoul@optonline.net> wrote

Yes, all of what you wrote may be true, but I had also emailed my phone number
to him before he sent the second email, so the only possible reasons for lack of
contact at this point would be illness. I sincerely hope not.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Shoah- New Dutch Website #general

Max & Bertha van Dam <berthavd@...>
 

Dear Genners,

Henriette Mod Roth wrote:

What I like about the site, despite occasional errors, is that it gives
residence addresses. As for mistakes, the webmaster/mistress specifically
acknowledges this possibility and asks readers' help in supplying additional
information. I found it interesting that major funding for the site is
supplied by reparations.
What Henriette says is true, but they only give the last know address of the
people. The Germans made people move to Amsterdam in certain aeria's, so it does
not say much to me as I know the city (my birth place) very well.

Though the site is partly in Dutch, it is not difficult to find out what is
meant.

Although I now live in Israel, I speak Dutch daily, as we only moved to
Israel 8 years ago.
I am willing to help people find their relatives in Holland.

Just mail me (name, birthdate,etc) and I will be of help for you.

Bertha van Dam
Rechovot
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Shoah- New Dutch Website #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Henriette Roth wrote:

Further to Bertha van Dam's and Irene's messages regarding the Dutch site, let
me point out that the web site is in Dutch,
Not completely true.

<http://www.joodsmonument.nl/index.php?lang=en>

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Replace all crosses with dots in my emailaddress)


Dobrzyn-Rypin Landsmanschaft #general

Ira Leviton
 

To All,

The next meeting of the Dobrzyn-Rypin Benevolent Association will take place at
Ben's Restaurant, 209 West 38th Street (off 7th Avenue), in New York City, on
Sunday, on May 22nd, 2005, at 12:30 P.M. If you have ancestors or are researching
relatives >from either of these two towns, you might want to even consider joining
his landmanschaft, which is somehow managing to hang on by its fingertips. The
annual dues are only $25 (per couple, $15 for widows). Members who are current
with their dues get lunch at the meeting and a grave (which I guarantee will not
be needed as a result of the lunch).

Please RSVP privately if you can come. If you can't, you can still let me know
the surnames you are researching >from either of these towns.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Dobrzyn-Rypin Landsmanschaft #general

Ira Leviton
 

To All,

The next meeting of the Dobrzyn-Rypin Benevolent Association will take place at
Ben's Restaurant, 209 West 38th Street (off 7th Avenue), in New York City, on
Sunday, on May 22nd, 2005, at 12:30 P.M. If you have ancestors or are researching
relatives >from either of these two towns, you might want to even consider joining
his landmanschaft, which is somehow managing to hang on by its fingertips. The
annual dues are only $25 (per couple, $15 for widows). Members who are current
with their dues get lunch at the meeting and a grave (which I guarantee will not
be needed as a result of the lunch).

Please RSVP privately if you can come. If you can't, you can still let me know
the surnames you are researching >from either of these towns.

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Kretchmer #courland #latvia

Chaim freedman
 

A Kretchmer family is descended >from a sister of the Vilna Gaon. Her son
Shlomo Zalman had a son Yosef Benyamin Kretchmer who lived in Keidan. I
estimate that he was born about 1785. His son was Shlomo Zalman Kretchmer,
father of Naftali Hertz Kretchmer, father of Avraham Kretchmer (died 1900 in
Jerusalem), father of Rabbi Naftali Hertz Kretchmer (died 1913 Ponevezh) and
others (see my book "Eliyahu's Branches, the Descendants of the Vilna Gaon
and his Family" (Avotaynu 1997).

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Kretchmer #courland #latvia

Chaim freedman
 

A Kretchmer family is descended >from a sister of the Vilna Gaon. Her son
Shlomo Zalman had a son Yosef Benyamin Kretchmer who lived in Keidan. I
estimate that he was born about 1785. His son was Shlomo Zalman Kretchmer,
father of Naftali Hertz Kretchmer, father of Avraham Kretchmer (died 1900 in
Jerusalem), father of Rabbi Naftali Hertz Kretchmer (died 1913 Ponevezh) and
others (see my book "Eliyahu's Branches, the Descendants of the Vilna Gaon
and his Family" (Avotaynu 1997).

Chaim Freedman
Petah Tikvah, Israel
chaimjan@zahav.net.il


Cape Town Cemeteries #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

All over the world Tombstones face Jerusalem
and are in one format - not back to back as they
are in Cape Town's Cemeteries.

Can anyone give me the reasoning for this?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Cape Town Cemeteries #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

All over the world Tombstones face Jerusalem
and are in one format - not back to back as they
are in Cape Town's Cemeteries.

Can anyone give me the reasoning for this?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


Re: German Jewish name of Yetcha #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 5/11/2005 malesfamily@gmail.com writes:

< Is Yetcha German or Hebrew? Is it a derivative of something else? >

==It's a local diminutive of Jette. German diminutives for both names and
objects vary widely with time and with geography. Common diminutives include
-le, -lein, -len, -el, -chen. The common diminutive in Frankfurt/Main was
-chen, and -cha suggests the Frankfurt area.

==Jette has two origins: >from the German Henrietta [chop off the first two
syllables] or >from the Biblical Yehudit -> Judith -> Judis. Both names were
popular among non-Jews. I doubt that many Jews were aware of the Biblical
origin when they named their daughter Jette, Jetchen, Jetlein . . . .

Michael Bernet, New York http://www.mem-Ber.net


German SIG #Germany Re: German Jewish name of Yetcha #germany

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 5/11/2005 malesfamily@gmail.com writes:

< Is Yetcha German or Hebrew? Is it a derivative of something else? >

==It's a local diminutive of Jette. German diminutives for both names and
objects vary widely with time and with geography. Common diminutives include
-le, -lein, -len, -el, -chen. The common diminutive in Frankfurt/Main was
-chen, and -cha suggests the Frankfurt area.

==Jette has two origins: >from the German Henrietta [chop off the first two
syllables] or >from the Biblical Yehudit -> Judith -> Judis. Both names were
popular among non-Jews. I doubt that many Jews were aware of the Biblical
origin when they named their daughter Jette, Jetchen, Jetlein . . . .

Michael Bernet, New York http://www.mem-Ber.net


Re: asylum - Micheal SANDMAN #usa

Linda Hawkins <linhawk1@...>
 

Hi Bonnie,
My g grandfather was in an asylum in Indiana. I spoke with the
same lady every time. I had to tell her at least 20 times I was
the only living relative (I'm not the only one, I fibbed)
and filled out the same paper several times.
My suggestion is be courteous, polite and above all be **persistant**.
They will give you a run around, but keep at it. Repeat as many times as
necessary.

My g grandfather died within 6 months of being there. He was
only in his 30s, so he was either shocked to death or
maybe had a brain tumor. Whose to know????? good luck,

Linda Hawkins <linhawk1@yahoo.com>


Early American SIG #USA Re: asylum - Micheal SANDMAN #usa

Linda Hawkins <linhawk1@...>
 

Hi Bonnie,
My g grandfather was in an asylum in Indiana. I spoke with the
same lady every time. I had to tell her at least 20 times I was
the only living relative (I'm not the only one, I fibbed)
and filled out the same paper several times.
My suggestion is be courteous, polite and above all be **persistant**.
They will give you a run around, but keep at it. Repeat as many times as
necessary.

My g grandfather died within 6 months of being there. He was
only in his 30s, so he was either shocked to death or
maybe had a brain tumor. Whose to know????? good luck,

Linda Hawkins <linhawk1@yahoo.com>


Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) May Meeting - Monday, May 16th at 7:30 PM #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The May meeting will be held on Monday, May 16th at 7:30 PM in the Mini-Sanctuary
of CLJ (Congregation of Liberal Judaism) at 928 Malone Drive, Orlando, FL 32810.

Program: We are pleased to announce that Irwin Feldman will talk on Ellis Island
Research. This will be an outstanding program and we look forward to your being
there and sharing his expertise. Guests are most welcome. If you need further
information please send me an
email at dofrank@cfl.rr.com
Doris Frank


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) May Meeting - Monday, May 16th at 7:30 PM #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The May meeting will be held on Monday, May 16th at 7:30 PM in the Mini-Sanctuary
of CLJ (Congregation of Liberal Judaism) at 928 Malone Drive, Orlando, FL 32810.

Program: We are pleased to announce that Irwin Feldman will talk on Ellis Island
Research. This will be an outstanding program and we look forward to your being
there and sharing his expertise. Guests are most welcome. If you need further
information please send me an
email at dofrank@cfl.rr.com
Doris Frank


May Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

May Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, May 23, 2005
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA


Speaker: Yale REISNER
Topic: Raising Atlantis: Restoring Jewish Memory in Poland

Yale J. Reisner founded the Ronald S. Lauder Foundation Genealogy Project at the
Jewish Historical Institute of Poland in 1994. Since then, he and his colleague,
Anna Przybyszewska-Drozd, have assisted individuals and families in uncovering
their family histories.

Mr. Reisner holds degrees in East Central European Studies >from Columbia College
and the Fletcher School of Law & Diplomacy and has studied at Hebrew University,
the Jewish Theological Seminary, Villanova University, the YIVO Institute and the
U.S. National Archives. He has worked in libraries and archives in the US,
Russia, Lithuania and Poland, helped organize the first European Judaica Archives
Conference in Potsdam in 1999 and took part in a panel on European Jewish archives
at the "Future of Jewish Heritage in Europe" conference in Prague in April 2004.
He has lectured and published articles in the USA, Canada, France, Israel and
Poland

Poland's Jews, for centuries the world's largest Jewish community, was swept away
in the cataclysm of the Holocaust. The ten percent of Poland's population that
was Jewish (90% of its Jews), plus another ten percent -- including most of
Poland's cultural and political elites -- abruptly vanished. Those losses are
still acutely felt in Poland. Reisner will seek to describe the many, sometimes
surprising ways in which Jewish memory is being sought out and, to some degree,
restored in Poland today. He will talk about the work of the Ronald S. Lauder
Foundation's Warsaw genealogy team, as well as of a growing network of
institutions, initiatives and individuals that are gradually discovering,
protecting and seeking to restore many Jewish elements of Poland's historical and
cultural landscape.

To offset the costs of bringing Mr. Reisner to the United States, where he will
also address other JGS groups, there will be a $5.00 charge at the door for all
who attend.

Q and A sessions: There will be a 30 minute Question and Answer session preceding
all general meetings.

Guests are always welcome
Refreshments will be served following the meeting.

German Special Interest Group: The next meeting will be on Sunday, June 26,
3:00PM at the home of Phyllis Sichel, Elkins Park, PA. Topic to be announced
soon. For more information contact
Monica Leonards at m_leonards@hotmail.com

Russian Special Interest Group (RIG): Meeting Sunday, June 12, 2005, 1:30PM at
Klein Branch JCC at Red Lion Road and Jamison Avenue, Philadelphia. Topic to be
announced. For more information, please contact
David Brill at brilldr@comcast.net

Delaware County Main Line Affiliate:
Tuesday, June 7, 2005, Don Davis, archivist at Philadelphia Jewish Archive Center
will speak about "Using the Jewish Archives." Meetings are held at Martins Run
Life Care Community, 11 Martins Run, Media, PA at 7:30PM.

One-on-one help is offered in the Computer Room starting at 6:45PM. For more
information contact Shelda Sandler
at stanshel @msn.com.

South Jersey Affiliate:
Meetings are held at Congregation Beth Tikvah, 115 Evesboro-Medford Rd.,
Marlton, New Jersey.
For information contact Joel Spector at jlspector@ aol.com.

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen May Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia #general

JGLois@...
 

May Meeting of Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

Date: Monday, May 23, 2005
Time: 7:45 PM
Place: The Newman Building at Gratz College
Old York Road (Route 611) and Melrose Avenue
Melrose Park, PA


Speaker: Yale REISNER
Topic: Raising Atlantis: Restoring Jewish Memory in Poland

Yale J. Reisner founded the Ronald S. Lauder Foundation Genealogy Project at the
Jewish Historical Institute of Poland in 1994. Since then, he and his colleague,
Anna Przybyszewska-Drozd, have assisted individuals and families in uncovering
their family histories.

Mr. Reisner holds degrees in East Central European Studies >from Columbia College
and the Fletcher School of Law & Diplomacy and has studied at Hebrew University,
the Jewish Theological Seminary, Villanova University, the YIVO Institute and the
U.S. National Archives. He has worked in libraries and archives in the US,
Russia, Lithuania and Poland, helped organize the first European Judaica Archives
Conference in Potsdam in 1999 and took part in a panel on European Jewish archives
at the "Future of Jewish Heritage in Europe" conference in Prague in April 2004.
He has lectured and published articles in the USA, Canada, France, Israel and
Poland

Poland's Jews, for centuries the world's largest Jewish community, was swept away
in the cataclysm of the Holocaust. The ten percent of Poland's population that
was Jewish (90% of its Jews), plus another ten percent -- including most of
Poland's cultural and political elites -- abruptly vanished. Those losses are
still acutely felt in Poland. Reisner will seek to describe the many, sometimes
surprising ways in which Jewish memory is being sought out and, to some degree,
restored in Poland today. He will talk about the work of the Ronald S. Lauder
Foundation's Warsaw genealogy team, as well as of a growing network of
institutions, initiatives and individuals that are gradually discovering,
protecting and seeking to restore many Jewish elements of Poland's historical and
cultural landscape.

To offset the costs of bringing Mr. Reisner to the United States, where he will
also address other JGS groups, there will be a $5.00 charge at the door for all
who attend.

Q and A sessions: There will be a 30 minute Question and Answer session preceding
all general meetings.

Guests are always welcome
Refreshments will be served following the meeting.

German Special Interest Group: The next meeting will be on Sunday, June 26,
3:00PM at the home of Phyllis Sichel, Elkins Park, PA. Topic to be announced
soon. For more information contact
Monica Leonards at m_leonards@hotmail.com

Russian Special Interest Group (RIG): Meeting Sunday, June 12, 2005, 1:30PM at
Klein Branch JCC at Red Lion Road and Jamison Avenue, Philadelphia. Topic to be
announced. For more information, please contact
David Brill at brilldr@comcast.net

Delaware County Main Line Affiliate:
Tuesday, June 7, 2005, Don Davis, archivist at Philadelphia Jewish Archive Center
will speak about "Using the Jewish Archives." Meetings are held at Martins Run
Life Care Community, 11 Martins Run, Media, PA at 7:30PM.

One-on-one help is offered in the Computer Room starting at 6:45PM. For more
information contact Shelda Sandler
at stanshel @msn.com.

South Jersey Affiliate:
Meetings are held at Congregation Beth Tikvah, 115 Evesboro-Medford Rd.,
Marlton, New Jersey.
For information contact Joel Spector at jlspector@ aol.com.

Lois Sernoff [JGS GreaterPhiladelphia]
<JGLois@aol.com>