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Re: Hebrew translation
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Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:29:28 UTC, judywolk@mindspring.com (Judy Wolkovitch)
opined: Can someone please tell me what the phrase "Chederim M'toknim" means? (MemIt does, actually. The literal meaning of Hebrew "H.eder" is indeed "room", but it is the conventional term, especially in Eastern Europe, for a Jewish school for young kids, parallel to elementary school. A better translation for "Mtukan" in this context might be "Repaired", which is quite close to its literal meaning. Putting these together, I understand the phrase to indicate a Better kind of H.eder than the traditional, in which teaching methods could sometimes be considered primitive, and the subject matter excessively narrow. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hebrew translation
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Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:29:28 UTC, judywolk@mindspring.com (Judy Wolkovitch)
opined: Can someone please tell me what the phrase "Chederim M'toknim" means? (MemIt does, actually. The literal meaning of Hebrew "H.eder" is indeed "room", but it is the conventional term, especially in Eastern Europe, for a Jewish school for young kids, parallel to elementary school. A better translation for "Mtukan" in this context might be "Repaired", which is quite close to its literal meaning. Putting these together, I understand the phrase to indicate a Better kind of H.eder than the traditional, in which teaching methods could sometimes be considered primitive, and the subject matter excessively narrow. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel Searching: NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form there.
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Re: JGS-Johannesburg Meeting on 20 March
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The Freedmans <adrianf@...>
Wouldn't you like to share this information with us who live overseas? A
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summary of the meeting with tips would be appreciated. Adrian Freedman Meira Puterman wrote:
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Johannesburg is pleased to invite you, your
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: JGS-Johannesburg Meeting on 20 March
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The Freedmans <adrianf@...>
Wouldn't you like to share this information with us who live overseas? A
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summary of the meeting with tips would be appreciated. Adrian Freedman Meira Puterman wrote:
The Jewish Genealogical Society of Johannesburg is pleased to invite you, your
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Re: Diana Stein, Jhb, London
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Sarah Krein <sarah@...>
Hi Michel,
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I have family Stein. Check out my tree. http://www.oandp.org/membership/societies/gait/ Sarah
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From: "Michel Treisman" <treisman@psy.ox.ac.uk> To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re:[safrica] Diana Stein, Jhb, London I would like to get in touch with Diana Stein (original name), who came to
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Re:Diana Stein, Jhb, London
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Sarah Krein <sarah@...>
Hi Michel,
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I have family Stein. Check out my tree. http://www.oandp.org/membership/societies/gait/ Sarah
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From: "Michel Treisman" <treisman@psy.ox.ac.uk> To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re:[safrica] Diana Stein, Jhb, London I would like to get in touch with Diana Stein (original name), who came to
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1912 Galicia Telephone Directory -Info, Hints, Tips
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Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
I'd like to echo Alex Sharon's comments on the wonderful discovery of the
existence online 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory. It will certainly prove to be a goldmine of information for Galician researchers. And I'd like to thank him for providing the guide and index which will greatly simplify searching through this resource: As an example of what information can be gained >from this online gem.... Below is a translation of an entry for the town of Grzymalow (near Skalat, in Ukraine today) relating to Count Leonard Pininski, who "owned" this village. This will be of special interest to those of us researching ancestors who might have worked and lived on the estates of the Polish magnate landowners. Re: Grzymalow's Pininski (page 199) Below name Grzymalow there is listing of communication facilities in the village: a) HRM (His Royal Majesty) Phone office b) HRM Post office and Telegraph c) HRM public telephone facilities located in HRM Post Office # 3 phone is listed under Pininski Leon and Stanislaw (brothers?). Abbreviation "hr." is for "hrabia" (Count) This phone No. covered following locations of Pininski properties: a) Office of the steam operated flour mill b) Palace's hall c) Farm in Grzymalow d) Warehouse of the steam operated flour mill e) Mill manager, apartment With a Polish-English dictionary (or a friend to help translate!) you'll gain much information >from these directories...not just about your relatives and the businesses they owned...but of connections to other types of records that might eluded you up until now, including the names of the noble families that owned the towns your ancestors lived in. According to the Polish Geographical Dictionary's descriptions of many Galician towns, there were often hundreds of Jews living and working on the grounds of these estates in a variety of capacities..in the mills, the taverns, taking care of the animals, etc. If you closely read the "comments" sections of your Galician birth/marriage/death records--even though these comments are often written in almost-indecipherable gothic German script) you may find that members of your family were among those living on the estates of these magnates. Some entries >from this dictionary have been translated into English and are listed as: "Slownik Geograficzny Index of Translated Entries" on the Polish Roots website through this link: http://www.polishroots.org/slownik/slownik_index.htm Using all of these resources, in combination with JewishGen's "1891 Galician Business Directory" at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/galicia1891.htm will give you a fuller picture of the lives your relatives once lead in Galicia. Another useful tip: although you must download the DJVU plug-in to view the directory's pages, you can "save" the document to PDF format by pressing the print button on your computer, and then clicking on "Save as PDF." In this way you can send copies of these pages to others who may not have the plug-in installed on their computer, but who DO have Adobe Reader. >from Adobe you can also cut out smaller portions of the listings and manipulate the document. Pamela Weisberger Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia Santa Monica, Ca pweisberger@hotmail.com
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Re: Polish Occupations
#galicia
Alexander Sharon
Rebecca Fenning wrote
Hi everyone,Hi, 'pien.' stands for pieniezny - financial fabrykant korkow i wl.realn. (wlasciciel realnosci) cork manufacturer and property owner Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory -Info, Hints, Tips
#galicia
Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
I'd like to echo Alex Sharon's comments on the wonderful discovery of the
existence online 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory. It will certainly prove to be a goldmine of information for Galician researchers. And I'd like to thank him for providing the guide and index which will greatly simplify searching through this resource: As an example of what information can be gained >from this online gem.... Below is a translation of an entry for the town of Grzymalow (near Skalat, in Ukraine today) relating to Count Leonard Pininski, who "owned" this village. This will be of special interest to those of us researching ancestors who might have worked and lived on the estates of the Polish magnate landowners. Re: Grzymalow's Pininski (page 199) Below name Grzymalow there is listing of communication facilities in the village: a) HRM (His Royal Majesty) Phone office b) HRM Post office and Telegraph c) HRM public telephone facilities located in HRM Post Office # 3 phone is listed under Pininski Leon and Stanislaw (brothers?). Abbreviation "hr." is for "hrabia" (Count) This phone No. covered following locations of Pininski properties: a) Office of the steam operated flour mill b) Palace's hall c) Farm in Grzymalow d) Warehouse of the steam operated flour mill e) Mill manager, apartment With a Polish-English dictionary (or a friend to help translate!) you'll gain much information >from these directories...not just about your relatives and the businesses they owned...but of connections to other types of records that might eluded you up until now, including the names of the noble families that owned the towns your ancestors lived in. According to the Polish Geographical Dictionary's descriptions of many Galician towns, there were often hundreds of Jews living and working on the grounds of these estates in a variety of capacities..in the mills, the taverns, taking care of the animals, etc. If you closely read the "comments" sections of your Galician birth/marriage/death records--even though these comments are often written in almost-indecipherable gothic German script) you may find that members of your family were among those living on the estates of these magnates. Some entries >from this dictionary have been translated into English and are listed as: "Slownik Geograficzny Index of Translated Entries" on the Polish Roots website through this link: http://www.polishroots.org/slownik/slownik_index.htm Using all of these resources, in combination with JewishGen's "1891 Galician Business Directory" at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/galicia1891.htm will give you a fuller picture of the lives your relatives once lead in Galicia. Another useful tip: although you must download the DJVU plug-in to view the directory's pages, you can "save" the document to PDF format by pressing the print button on your computer, and then clicking on "Save as PDF." In this way you can send copies of these pages to others who may not have the plug-in installed on their computer, but who DO have Adobe Reader. >from Adobe you can also cut out smaller portions of the listings and manipulate the document. Pamela Weisberger Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia Santa Monica, Ca pweisberger@hotmail.com
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Polish Occupations
#galicia
Alexander Sharon
Rebecca Fenning wrote
Hi everyone,Hi, 'pien.' stands for pieniezny - financial fabrykant korkow i wl.realn. (wlasciciel realnosci) cork manufacturer and property owner Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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Re: Boston Jewish Advocate
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Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
From: "Diane Jacobs" <kingart@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RE: Boston Jewish Advocate ********************************************************************** Alan, aNOhsSPAMsha@rcn.com (remove NO SPAM) wroteAlan Shuchat, Newton, Mass. You can do this online at http://www.thejewishadvocate.com/<;<< As far as I could tell, one seems to need a subscription to view the items at the Boston Jewish Advocate web pages, but after I answered the original question >from Bea Swart , I received the following message that an index to the obituaries and wedding announcements >from the Boston Jewish Advocate are located on line - I looked again, and found the following databases at theThe marriages and deaths are on line and can be easily searched<< Jewishgen web pages - The wedding announcements index http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/advocatew.htm and the obituaries index here http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/advocate.htm I think the original message was asking where the newspaper itself might be viewed as she seemed to have the data >from the index already. The films are located at the Boston Public library for sure, and maybe other places as well. Hope this helps, Lisa
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Boston Jewish Advocate
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Lisa Lepore <llepore@...>
From: "Diane Jacobs" <kingart@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: RE: Boston Jewish Advocate ********************************************************************** Alan, aNOhsSPAMsha@rcn.com (remove NO SPAM) wroteAlan Shuchat, Newton, Mass. You can do this online at http://www.thejewishadvocate.com/<;<< As far as I could tell, one seems to need a subscription to view the items at the Boston Jewish Advocate web pages, but after I answered the original question >from Bea Swart , I received the following message that an index to the obituaries and wedding announcements >from the Boston Jewish Advocate are located on line - I looked again, and found the following databases at theThe marriages and deaths are on line and can be easily searched<< Jewishgen web pages - The wedding announcements index http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/advocatew.htm and the obituaries index here http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/advocate.htm I think the original message was asking where the newspaper itself might be viewed as she seemed to have the data >from the index already. The films are located at the Boston Public library for sure, and maybe other places as well. Hope this helps, Lisa
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Re: LINCOLN and Jewish Ancestry - Another Angle?
#general
Dick Plotz
Schelly Dardashti quoted a synopsis of the connection of Mary Todd
Lincoln to the family of Moses Hyams >from Poland, taken >from Rabbi Stern's book: "(p.119) In America by 1767, Moses Hyams of Poland marries Judith Isaacs of Germany. Their lineage continues through a Solomon and a Ricardo onward to Polock, Nordhaus, Bensadon, to Alexander, Denison, Morris, Connaly, Tucker, Tillman onward to a Dr. Isaac Ambrose who marries the daughter of John Blair Smith, who has a daughter who marries Robert S. Todd of Lexington, Kentucky, whose daughter Mary Todd marries Abraham Lincoln." Unfortunately, this is the result of a misreading of the chart. It was Mary Lincoln's first cousin who was married to a completely Jewish (by ancestry, at least) descendant of Moses Hyams. Mrs Lincoln herself had no Jewish ancestry, at least according to the chart. Anyone interested in these discussions may want to join JewishGen's Early American SIG. For further information, go to <http://www.jewishgen.org/earlyamerican/>;. Another interesting source for assertions of Jewish ancestry is the Wikipedia article <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jews>;. Use it with caution, however, as Wikipedia may be edited by almost anyone, and most of the listings show no references supporting their inclusion (though most are well-known). Dick Plotz Providence RI USA
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Seeking in London England LESTER family
#general
alexallen@...
USA grandson of Zlota (Lottie in USA) MILSTEIN, born in Bessarabia Russia,
seeking family members of Louis LESTER, son of Joe & Milley LESTER, who lived in 1960 on Knightland Road, Clapton, London E 5 England. Letter dated April 10, 1960 said Louis went into his father's ladies casual rainwear business. Also, Joe & Milley's daughter Audrey moved to Los Angeles. Please contact me with any information by e-mail to [alexallen@att.net]. Allen HAUSMAN Alexandria Virginia USA Jewishgen Researcher 14033
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: LINCOLN and Jewish Ancestry - Another Angle?
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Dick Plotz
Schelly Dardashti quoted a synopsis of the connection of Mary Todd
Lincoln to the family of Moses Hyams >from Poland, taken >from Rabbi Stern's book: "(p.119) In America by 1767, Moses Hyams of Poland marries Judith Isaacs of Germany. Their lineage continues through a Solomon and a Ricardo onward to Polock, Nordhaus, Bensadon, to Alexander, Denison, Morris, Connaly, Tucker, Tillman onward to a Dr. Isaac Ambrose who marries the daughter of John Blair Smith, who has a daughter who marries Robert S. Todd of Lexington, Kentucky, whose daughter Mary Todd marries Abraham Lincoln." Unfortunately, this is the result of a misreading of the chart. It was Mary Lincoln's first cousin who was married to a completely Jewish (by ancestry, at least) descendant of Moses Hyams. Mrs Lincoln herself had no Jewish ancestry, at least according to the chart. Anyone interested in these discussions may want to join JewishGen's Early American SIG. For further information, go to <http://www.jewishgen.org/earlyamerican/>;. Another interesting source for assertions of Jewish ancestry is the Wikipedia article <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jews>;. Use it with caution, however, as Wikipedia may be edited by almost anyone, and most of the listings show no references supporting their inclusion (though most are well-known). Dick Plotz Providence RI USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking in London England LESTER family
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alexallen@...
USA grandson of Zlota (Lottie in USA) MILSTEIN, born in Bessarabia Russia,
seeking family members of Louis LESTER, son of Joe & Milley LESTER, who lived in 1960 on Knightland Road, Clapton, London E 5 England. Letter dated April 10, 1960 said Louis went into his father's ladies casual rainwear business. Also, Joe & Milley's daughter Audrey moved to Los Angeles. Please contact me with any information by e-mail to [alexallen@att.net]. Allen HAUSMAN Alexandria Virginia USA Jewishgen Researcher 14033
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Re: Treblinka
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Nick <tulse04-news@...>
"viktor lewin" <viklewin@shaw.ca> wrote in
Shalom :See http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/nfo/article.cfm?id=1242 also http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&;cid=1092884507053&p=1008596975996 It is due to be set up in conjunction with Yad Vashem, so I imagine contact them. Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus) MODERATOR NOTE: The long web address may need to be pasted together in your browser.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Treblinka
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Nick <tulse04-news@...>
"viktor lewin" <viklewin@shaw.ca> wrote in
Shalom :See http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/nfo/article.cfm?id=1242 also http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&;cid=1092884507053&p=1008596975996 It is due to be set up in conjunction with Yad Vashem, so I imagine contact them. Nick Landau London, UK COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus) MODERATOR NOTE: The long web address may need to be pasted together in your browser.
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Re: Boston Jewish Advocate
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Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
Alan,
I went to this website and could not find the link to marriage Announcements. I am looking for several in Boston in the 1920s And 1930s. Any help is greatly appreciated. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ Researching - Webber, Kraft, Rosenberg, Singman, Schumkov, Shaltakoff, Lesnie, Steinberg, Galosshoff, Glazer, Lester, Gusslitzer, Becker or Becher Can some one tell me where I can get to research the Boston JewishYou can do this online at http://www.thejewishadvocate.com/ Alan Shuchat, Newton, Mass. aNOhsSPAMsha@rcn.com (remove NO SPAM)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Boston Jewish Advocate
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Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
Alan,
I went to this website and could not find the link to marriage Announcements. I am looking for several in Boston in the 1920s And 1930s. Any help is greatly appreciated. Diane Jacobs Somerset, NJ Researching - Webber, Kraft, Rosenberg, Singman, Schumkov, Shaltakoff, Lesnie, Steinberg, Galosshoff, Glazer, Lester, Gusslitzer, Becker or Becher Can some one tell me where I can get to research the Boston JewishYou can do this online at http://www.thejewishadvocate.com/ Alan Shuchat, Newton, Mass. aNOhsSPAMsha@rcn.com (remove NO SPAM)
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