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Re: Hebrew for "Theresa"--there ain't no such thing #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/14/2005 6:18:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Samara99@comcast.net writes:
Does anyone know what the Jewish or Hebrew name for "Theresa" would be?

< I have several relatives (Hungarian) by that name. One relative
remembers
being told it was "Chalma", but we have been unable to confirm this as a
"known name". A local Rabbi suggested Tasha or Tasa, but a relative had
called Rabbis in Hungary, who did not know these names. >

==Hardly surprising. What's Jewish or Hebrew for Abercrombie, Fountleroy,
Beyonce, Tawanna, Tanika? Theresa is not a Jewish name. Period.

==My mother had an aunt Theresa who was granddaughter of the most famous and
most influential (Orthodox) rabbi of Germany in the past three centuries;
whatever her Hebrew name was, it had no connection (except, perhaps, sharing the
initial) with Theresa.

==People give their children English names, French names, Latin names,
Hebrew names, Yiddish names, "Jewish" names. A few names are totally "banned" by
Jews. A few names are totally "banned" by the civic authorities. Aside >from
that parents can give their children any name that pleases them (or their
spouses or their grandmothers).

==When there is no Hebrew/Jewish/Yiddish equivalent, the best you can hope
for is that the two names have the same initial or, somehow, sound vaguely
similar (e.g. Cyril = Yisrael, or Cecil = Siessel)

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Hebrew for "Theresa"--there ain't no such thing #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/14/2005 6:18:45 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
Samara99@comcast.net writes:
Does anyone know what the Jewish or Hebrew name for "Theresa" would be?

< I have several relatives (Hungarian) by that name. One relative
remembers
being told it was "Chalma", but we have been unable to confirm this as a
"known name". A local Rabbi suggested Tasha or Tasa, but a relative had
called Rabbis in Hungary, who did not know these names. >

==Hardly surprising. What's Jewish or Hebrew for Abercrombie, Fountleroy,
Beyonce, Tawanna, Tanika? Theresa is not a Jewish name. Period.

==My mother had an aunt Theresa who was granddaughter of the most famous and
most influential (Orthodox) rabbi of Germany in the past three centuries;
whatever her Hebrew name was, it had no connection (except, perhaps, sharing the
initial) with Theresa.

==People give their children English names, French names, Latin names,
Hebrew names, Yiddish names, "Jewish" names. A few names are totally "banned" by
Jews. A few names are totally "banned" by the civic authorities. Aside >from
that parents can give their children any name that pleases them (or their
spouses or their grandmothers).

==When there is no Hebrew/Jewish/Yiddish equivalent, the best you can hope
for is that the two names have the same initial or, somehow, sound vaguely
similar (e.g. Cyril = Yisrael, or Cecil = Siessel)

Michael Bernet, New York


HALBERSTADT Family or Families #rabbinic

sfalk81162@...
 

I am trying to learn more about a HALBERSTADT family that was in
Lissa (Posen) in the early 19th century, and may have had members in
Glogau (Silesia), about 30 km >from Lissa. Among other things, I am
interested in learning whether this family is related to the
rabbinic family of R. Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz HALBERSTADT
(also known as BIALEH) (1670-1748).

The starting point is Joel ben Hirsch HALBERSTADT of Lissa. Joel
died in Lissa (or was buried in Lissa) in October 1832. He was
married to Scheine bat Jacob (d.1826, Lissa). According to the
gravestone inscription of their daughter Chaje Sara AUERBACH, geb.
HALBERSTADT (d.1855, Ostrowo), her family were Cohanim. (She was
the wife of R. Menachem Mannheim AUERBACH (1773-1848).) Joel ben
Hirsch HALBERSTADT is mentioned in Louis LEWIN's "Geschichte der
Juden in Lissa" - but his profession is not given. Johanna, a
daughter of Joel and Scheine, married Joseph LAZARUS of Glogau in
1820. Some time after her husband's death in 1853, Johanna returned
to Lissa, where she died in 1868.

Among the Glogau records, Roger LUSTIG has found that there was a
Wolff (ben) Hirsch HALBERSTADT (b.1772), a contemporary of Joel
HALBERSTADT, and possibly a brother of Joel. He adopted the name
HALBERSTADT in Glogau in 1791-94 and was still resident there in
1812. But there, the information about Joel and actual or possible
parts of his family end.

The rabbinic HALBERSTADT family appears to have some connections to
Glogau and Lissa. Various parts of the family are described in the
Jewish Encyclopedia (1906; online), and the Encyclopedia Judaica
(1972), and Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain". The EJ contains
an article on Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz BIALEH (aka HALBERSTADT)
(1670-1748), born in Lemberg, rabbi and Rosh Yeshiva in Biala,
Lemberg and Halberstadt. Zwi Hirsch had 5 sons who were rabbis:
R. Solomon Dov Berush in Glogau,
R. Naphtali Herz in Dubno (has entry in Jew.Enc. (1906)),
R. Abraham in Rawitsch,
R. Samuel in Halberstadt, and
R. Simchah in Dessau.

Zwi Hirsch also had a brother Israel b. Naphtali Herz (d.1744) who
lived in Cleves, Offenbach and Hanau.

This same rabbinic family is outlined In "The Unbroken Chain", p.558
et seq. and some members are said to have been in Lissa.

The question: Can anyone help determine whether Joel (haCohen)
HALBERSTADT's father, Hirsch HALBERSTADT, is part of the rabbinic
family described above? (Is that rabbinic family Cohanim?)

Thank you,
Stephen FALK -- Wayne, PA, USA -- sfalk81162@aol.com

Researching:
R. Jehuda Loew b. Bezalel, MaHaRaL - Prague; R. Mordechai JAFFE, Lewusch
- Posen; R. Meir POSENER (MUNK), Beit Meir - Lissa, Danzig; R. Zwi
Hirsch KALISCHER, Drischat Zion - Lissa, Thorn; R. Jacob Jehuda Loebel
FALK, Dyhrenfurther Rav - Lissa, Dyhernfurth, Breslau; R. Moses Aron
BACH - Hohensalza, Schildberg, Mieschkow, Breslau; R. Jehoshua (Joshua)
Falk (aka NEUMOEGEN, aka VALENTIN), Binjan Jehoshua - Lissa, Breslau


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic HALBERSTADT Family or Families #rabbinic

sfalk81162@...
 

I am trying to learn more about a HALBERSTADT family that was in
Lissa (Posen) in the early 19th century, and may have had members in
Glogau (Silesia), about 30 km >from Lissa. Among other things, I am
interested in learning whether this family is related to the
rabbinic family of R. Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz HALBERSTADT
(also known as BIALEH) (1670-1748).

The starting point is Joel ben Hirsch HALBERSTADT of Lissa. Joel
died in Lissa (or was buried in Lissa) in October 1832. He was
married to Scheine bat Jacob (d.1826, Lissa). According to the
gravestone inscription of their daughter Chaje Sara AUERBACH, geb.
HALBERSTADT (d.1855, Ostrowo), her family were Cohanim. (She was
the wife of R. Menachem Mannheim AUERBACH (1773-1848).) Joel ben
Hirsch HALBERSTADT is mentioned in Louis LEWIN's "Geschichte der
Juden in Lissa" - but his profession is not given. Johanna, a
daughter of Joel and Scheine, married Joseph LAZARUS of Glogau in
1820. Some time after her husband's death in 1853, Johanna returned
to Lissa, where she died in 1868.

Among the Glogau records, Roger LUSTIG has found that there was a
Wolff (ben) Hirsch HALBERSTADT (b.1772), a contemporary of Joel
HALBERSTADT, and possibly a brother of Joel. He adopted the name
HALBERSTADT in Glogau in 1791-94 and was still resident there in
1812. But there, the information about Joel and actual or possible
parts of his family end.

The rabbinic HALBERSTADT family appears to have some connections to
Glogau and Lissa. Various parts of the family are described in the
Jewish Encyclopedia (1906; online), and the Encyclopedia Judaica
(1972), and Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain". The EJ contains
an article on Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz BIALEH (aka HALBERSTADT)
(1670-1748), born in Lemberg, rabbi and Rosh Yeshiva in Biala,
Lemberg and Halberstadt. Zwi Hirsch had 5 sons who were rabbis:
R. Solomon Dov Berush in Glogau,
R. Naphtali Herz in Dubno (has entry in Jew.Enc. (1906)),
R. Abraham in Rawitsch,
R. Samuel in Halberstadt, and
R. Simchah in Dessau.

Zwi Hirsch also had a brother Israel b. Naphtali Herz (d.1744) who
lived in Cleves, Offenbach and Hanau.

This same rabbinic family is outlined In "The Unbroken Chain", p.558
et seq. and some members are said to have been in Lissa.

The question: Can anyone help determine whether Joel (haCohen)
HALBERSTADT's father, Hirsch HALBERSTADT, is part of the rabbinic
family described above? (Is that rabbinic family Cohanim?)

Thank you,
Stephen FALK -- Wayne, PA, USA -- sfalk81162@aol.com

Researching:
R. Jehuda Loew b. Bezalel, MaHaRaL - Prague; R. Mordechai JAFFE, Lewusch
- Posen; R. Meir POSENER (MUNK), Beit Meir - Lissa, Danzig; R. Zwi
Hirsch KALISCHER, Drischat Zion - Lissa, Thorn; R. Jacob Jehuda Loebel
FALK, Dyhrenfurther Rav - Lissa, Dyhernfurth, Breslau; R. Moses Aron
BACH - Hohensalza, Schildberg, Mieschkow, Breslau; R. Jehoshua (Joshua)
Falk (aka NEUMOEGEN, aka VALENTIN), Binjan Jehoshua - Lissa, Breslau


Abraham Lincoln: Secret Jew? #general

HeyJudy123@...
 

The New York Post, one of New York City's leading daily newspapers,
this week printed a theory that Abraham Lincoln may have been a secret Jew,
or descended >from Jews. (The columnist offering the information
admitted that this theory is unsubstantiated.)

Has any Genner heard a similar rumor (or "bubbemeiser") in his or
her own family?

Judy Segal
New York City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Abraham Lincoln: Secret Jew? #general

HeyJudy123@...
 

The New York Post, one of New York City's leading daily newspapers,
this week printed a theory that Abraham Lincoln may have been a secret Jew,
or descended >from Jews. (The columnist offering the information
admitted that this theory is unsubstantiated.)

Has any Genner heard a similar rumor (or "bubbemeiser") in his or
her own family?

Judy Segal
New York City


Viewmate 5657 - Russian #general

Jean Block <jbretired@...>
 

Viewmate 5657 is a document in Russian which I would love to have
translated. My aunt doesn't know what it is, but it was hanging on
her wall. The family names are Voscoboinic and Wolfman. Thanks.
Jean Block, Columbus OH


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 5657 - Russian #general

Jean Block <jbretired@...>
 

Viewmate 5657 is a document in Russian which I would love to have
translated. My aunt doesn't know what it is, but it was hanging on
her wall. The family names are Voscoboinic and Wolfman. Thanks.
Jean Block, Columbus OH


Re: Ancestry 1880 census-ABRAMOWITZ families #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Ben,

I have found many people I was looking for before ancestry.com had the
1880 US Census by going to the Mormon Family History site as follws:

http://www.familysearch.org

Here you can find the section for censuses as they have the l880 US
And the l881 UK Census. It is easy to use and you can see the actual
Images.

Diane Jacobs
New York

Following up on Joan Parker's notice of the free accesibility to the
1880 census I put in my ABRAMOWITZ name >from Connecticut. I got all excited
when Anestry wrote that there were 100 ABRAMOWITZ families who came to the
(USA or CT. ?) >from Liverpool which is where my gggrandmother came through
and I even started reviewing the list they had on their website and *&*&^%^**
some thing happened to the computer (I presume mine since I've been having
problems with it) and it "froze".

When I restarted the computer and got into the site including the 1880
census and redid all the previous steps I couldn't, the site wouldn't
return me to the list of ABRAMOWITZs who came to the states via Liverpool.
My request of this group is:
Does anyone know of anyway I could get back to that list that was on
Ancestry?

Does anyone know of any other sources that I can get to ABRAMOWITZs who
came to the states >from Liverpool during the latter half of the 19th cent.

Thanks In Advance

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Ancestry 1880 census-ABRAMOWITZ families #general

Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
 

Ben,

I have found many people I was looking for before ancestry.com had the
1880 US Census by going to the Mormon Family History site as follws:

http://www.familysearch.org

Here you can find the section for censuses as they have the l880 US
And the l881 UK Census. It is easy to use and you can see the actual
Images.

Diane Jacobs
New York

Following up on Joan Parker's notice of the free accesibility to the
1880 census I put in my ABRAMOWITZ name >from Connecticut. I got all excited
when Anestry wrote that there were 100 ABRAMOWITZ families who came to the
(USA or CT. ?) >from Liverpool which is where my gggrandmother came through
and I even started reviewing the list they had on their website and *&*&^%^**
some thing happened to the computer (I presume mine since I've been having
problems with it) and it "froze".

When I restarted the computer and got into the site including the 1880
census and redid all the previous steps I couldn't, the site wouldn't
return me to the list of ABRAMOWITZs who came to the states via Liverpool.
My request of this group is:
Does anyone know of anyway I could get back to that list that was on
Ancestry?

Does anyone know of any other sources that I can get to ABRAMOWITZs who
came to the states >from Liverpool during the latter half of the 19th cent.

Thanks In Advance

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Meaning of SCHRANZ #general

Rachel Michelson <rachel_michelson_15@...>
 

I am trying to research a previous family name. the
name is Schranz, I just want to know what the name
means, and any other information that anyone has
about it. I would be grateful for any information that
anyone can give me.
Thanks very much
Rachel

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Meaning of SCHRANZ #general

Rachel Michelson <rachel_michelson_15@...>
 

I am trying to research a previous family name. the
name is Schranz, I just want to know what the name
means, and any other information that anyone has
about it. I would be grateful for any information that
anyone can give me.
Thanks very much
Rachel

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Jewishgen Family Finder, and also to take a look at the various
InfoFiles:
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Re: Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia #ukraine

Olga G. Parker <ogparker@...>
 

I would be interested in a "Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia" group. My
interests are in the Ovruch area and the small towns surrounding that town,
and Radomysl' and the area around it. GLOSMAN (and variations) and PALEI
(PALLAY/PALEY) are among my names of interest. WARSHAVSKY is another name,
and I think they came >from Radomysl' and Zhitomir. My paternal grandparents
came to this country in 1903 (grandfather) and 1905 (grandmother and 2
children), 1909 (an uncle and one of my gm's sisters). So my interests are
all pre-World War II.

Olga G. Parker/SD
ogparker@rushmore.com


Subject: RE: Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia
From: "Wagman" <wagman8257@rogers.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:23:23 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4

Dear Genners:
I too would be interested in joining a Birds of a Feather Group that would
include Korostyshev and surrounding areas. My great grandparents and their
12 children all came >from Korostyshev and immigrated to Tronto, Canada
between circa 1904 and 1910.
Judi Wagman
Researching: STROKOWSKY, STRAKOWSKY, SCHUPACK, SZUPAK including spelling
variations of these.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Packer [mailto:packer18@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:20 AM
To: Ukraine SIG
Subject: [ukraine] Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia
Moshe,
If you want to start a Birds of a Feather Group for Kiev gubernia
(including Korostyshev, Zhitomer, Koristan, etc. area) I would be glad
to join. As you know I have WINARSKY's on my PACKER (PEKER) Family
Tree. I don't have the slightest idea of how to start a group myself.
Regards,
Ken Packer

Researching: PEKER, PACKER, BECKER, >from anywhere in the Ukraine,
especially
towns within a 200 mile radius >from Kiev (Korostyshev, Zhitomer, Koristan,
Brusilov, Khordorkev, Rudni).


Moshe Davis wrote:

Subject: pooling information to maximize research
From: "Moshe & Esther Davis" <davis@sefer.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:42:21

Dear All,

I'd also be interested in the possibility of forming "birds of a feather"
groups. My interests in the Ukraine are:

(1) The area of Tecs, Chust, and Sziget in Zarkapatska Oblast,
Ukraine and Maramures, Romania (former Austro-Hungarian
Marmaros in SubCarpathia), family surnames DAVIDOVITS,
CHAIMOVITS, KATZ, ZELMANOVITS.

(2) The Kiev gubernia (possibly Korostychev area), family surnames
WINARKSY, SHURMAN.
. . .
Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


FW: Gdansk/Danzig question #ukraine

Terri <terrib@...>
 

Hello, I have a relative who died in Danzig/Gdansk around 1926-1935. Can
someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be located with
Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc.

Thanks,

Tom Erribe


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia #ukraine

Olga G. Parker <ogparker@...>
 

I would be interested in a "Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia" group. My
interests are in the Ovruch area and the small towns surrounding that town,
and Radomysl' and the area around it. GLOSMAN (and variations) and PALEI
(PALLAY/PALEY) are among my names of interest. WARSHAVSKY is another name,
and I think they came >from Radomysl' and Zhitomir. My paternal grandparents
came to this country in 1903 (grandfather) and 1905 (grandmother and 2
children), 1909 (an uncle and one of my gm's sisters). So my interests are
all pre-World War II.

Olga G. Parker/SD
ogparker@rushmore.com


Subject: RE: Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia
From: "Wagman" <wagman8257@rogers.com>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:23:23 -0500
X-Message-Number: 4

Dear Genners:
I too would be interested in joining a Birds of a Feather Group that would
include Korostyshev and surrounding areas. My great grandparents and their
12 children all came >from Korostyshev and immigrated to Tronto, Canada
between circa 1904 and 1910.
Judi Wagman
Researching: STROKOWSKY, STRAKOWSKY, SCHUPACK, SZUPAK including spelling
variations of these.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth Packer [mailto:packer18@earthlink.net]
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 7:20 AM
To: Ukraine SIG
Subject: [ukraine] Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia
Moshe,
If you want to start a Birds of a Feather Group for Kiev gubernia
(including Korostyshev, Zhitomer, Koristan, etc. area) I would be glad
to join. As you know I have WINARSKY's on my PACKER (PEKER) Family
Tree. I don't have the slightest idea of how to start a group myself.
Regards,
Ken Packer

Researching: PEKER, PACKER, BECKER, >from anywhere in the Ukraine,
especially
towns within a 200 mile radius >from Kiev (Korostyshev, Zhitomer, Koristan,
Brusilov, Khordorkev, Rudni).


Moshe Davis wrote:

Subject: pooling information to maximize research
From: "Moshe & Esther Davis" <davis@sefer.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:42:21

Dear All,

I'd also be interested in the possibility of forming "birds of a feather"
groups. My interests in the Ukraine are:

(1) The area of Tecs, Chust, and Sziget in Zarkapatska Oblast,
Ukraine and Maramures, Romania (former Austro-Hungarian
Marmaros in SubCarpathia), family surnames DAVIDOVITS,
CHAIMOVITS, KATZ, ZELMANOVITS.

(2) The Kiev gubernia (possibly Korostychev area), family surnames
WINARKSY, SHURMAN.
. . .
Moshe Davis
Jerusalem


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine FW: Gdansk/Danzig question #ukraine

Terri <terrib@...>
 

Hello, I have a relative who died in Danzig/Gdansk around 1926-1935. Can
someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be located with
Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc.

Thanks,

Tom Erribe


Philadelphia guidance #general

Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
 

Could one of you Philadelphia experts help me with this? I'm looking for an
Arnold B. Rosenthal in Philadelphia or his daughter Cydney. Arnold's
parents were Simon (Sam) born 1892 and Beatrice Rosenthal >from Pittsburgh. I
will be happy to share more information with you about Arnold's parents if
you feel that would be useful. Please reply privately. Thanks in advance for
your assistance. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia guidance #general

Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
 

Could one of you Philadelphia experts help me with this? I'm looking for an
Arnold B. Rosenthal in Philadelphia or his daughter Cydney. Arnold's
parents were Simon (Sam) born 1892 and Beatrice Rosenthal >from Pittsburgh. I
will be happy to share more information with you about Arnold's parents if
you feel that would be useful. Please reply privately. Thanks in advance for
your assistance. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis #general

Martin Fischer
 

When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The
first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning
local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that

L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the
I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge.

I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but
does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was?

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis #general

Martin Fischer
 

When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The
first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning
local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that

L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the
I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge.

I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but
does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was?

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/