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Re: PRONIN and INDUCH/YENDICK #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Arthur PRONIN of Houston TX asks about PRONIN.

This is a Mogilev name, also found in nearby Chaussy.
A few years ago, I did a story on the Oleg and Svetlana PRONIN family,
immigrants >from Mogilev (about a decade ago), who live in Beersheva. They
are related to the YENDICK/INDUCH family in suburban Detroit.
The story about the YENDICK (in America)/INDUCH (original name in Belarus)
name is that the family name refers to the blue dye (indigo), and that "a
long time ago," the family was in this business in Amsterdam and other
places in Europe. This story was directly >from Oleg, who was told by his
father and grandfather.
For information on the PRONIN name, see information below >from another
PRONIN researcher.
There is also a GINSBURG (my own cousins, also >from Mogilev) connection in
Sioux City, Iowa.

Arthur, do you know your great-grandfather's name or any of his siblings?

There are at least two other PRONIN researchers.
I have their emails if they are not listed in the JewishGen Family Finder.
Helaine Baldwin in New York is a PRONIN researcher, through Isadore (Itchke)
PRONIN.
Oleg's family in Beersheva descends through Ita, daughter of Shmuel David
Moisevich INDUCH/YENDICK/INDYK, who married Yona Shmuelevich PRONIN, Oleg's
parents.
Davida Gersten Loewenstein of Lincoln, MA, is another PRONIN descendant. Her
grandmother, >from Mogilev, was Rachel bat Avrum PRONIN GERSTEN, she had 11
siblings.
Davida wrote to me that she had been told that the name PRONIN came >from a
nearby river of the same name.
The name Yona is common in her family, and was also the name of Oleg's
father, his grandfather was Shmuel.

In case others on our Belarus list are searching these families, this is how
Oleg PRONIN is related to the INDUCH/YENDICK/GINSBURG/PINSKER/SELBY etc.
families.

1--David ? INDUCH
2--Moshe Davidovich INDUCH
+Rasha (Rachel) GINSBURG (Mogilev family, related to TALALAY)
3--Zlate Peshe INDUCH (--> Detroit)
+Samuel PINSKER
4-- three daughters
+Morris SELBY
3--Shmuel David Moisevich INDUCH
+ Gruneh (maiden name unknown)
4-- Ita Shmuelovna INDUCH
+ Yona Shmuelovich PRONIN
5-- Oleg PRONIN (>from Mogilev --> Beersheva)
+ Svetlana
6--Irina/Ira PRONIN
4--Eli Moshe INDUCH - died WWII
4--Aleksander/Sasha INDUCH - died WWII
4--Nina INDUCH
4--Chava INDUCH
4--Lyuba Dvosha INDUCH
3-- Joseph YENDICK (--> Detroit)

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net

Subject: PRONIN name means what?


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: PRONIN and INDUCH/YENDICK #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Arthur PRONIN of Houston TX asks about PRONIN.

This is a Mogilev name, also found in nearby Chaussy.
A few years ago, I did a story on the Oleg and Svetlana PRONIN family,
immigrants >from Mogilev (about a decade ago), who live in Beersheva. They
are related to the YENDICK/INDUCH family in suburban Detroit.
The story about the YENDICK (in America)/INDUCH (original name in Belarus)
name is that the family name refers to the blue dye (indigo), and that "a
long time ago," the family was in this business in Amsterdam and other
places in Europe. This story was directly >from Oleg, who was told by his
father and grandfather.
For information on the PRONIN name, see information below >from another
PRONIN researcher.
There is also a GINSBURG (my own cousins, also >from Mogilev) connection in
Sioux City, Iowa.

Arthur, do you know your great-grandfather's name or any of his siblings?

There are at least two other PRONIN researchers.
I have their emails if they are not listed in the JewishGen Family Finder.
Helaine Baldwin in New York is a PRONIN researcher, through Isadore (Itchke)
PRONIN.
Oleg's family in Beersheva descends through Ita, daughter of Shmuel David
Moisevich INDUCH/YENDICK/INDYK, who married Yona Shmuelevich PRONIN, Oleg's
parents.
Davida Gersten Loewenstein of Lincoln, MA, is another PRONIN descendant. Her
grandmother, >from Mogilev, was Rachel bat Avrum PRONIN GERSTEN, she had 11
siblings.
Davida wrote to me that she had been told that the name PRONIN came >from a
nearby river of the same name.
The name Yona is common in her family, and was also the name of Oleg's
father, his grandfather was Shmuel.

In case others on our Belarus list are searching these families, this is how
Oleg PRONIN is related to the INDUCH/YENDICK/GINSBURG/PINSKER/SELBY etc.
families.

1--David ? INDUCH
2--Moshe Davidovich INDUCH
+Rasha (Rachel) GINSBURG (Mogilev family, related to TALALAY)
3--Zlate Peshe INDUCH (--> Detroit)
+Samuel PINSKER
4-- three daughters
+Morris SELBY
3--Shmuel David Moisevich INDUCH
+ Gruneh (maiden name unknown)
4-- Ita Shmuelovna INDUCH
+ Yona Shmuelovich PRONIN
5-- Oleg PRONIN (>from Mogilev --> Beersheva)
+ Svetlana
6--Irina/Ira PRONIN
4--Eli Moshe INDUCH - died WWII
4--Aleksander/Sasha INDUCH - died WWII
4--Nina INDUCH
4--Chava INDUCH
4--Lyuba Dvosha INDUCH
3-- Joseph YENDICK (--> Detroit)

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@allrelative.net

Subject: PRONIN name means what?


FW: Gdansk/Danzig question #general

Terri <terrib@...>
 

Hello, I have a relative who died in Danzig/Gdansk around 1926-1935.
Can someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be
located with Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc.

Thanks,

Tom Erribe


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FW: Gdansk/Danzig question #general

Terri <terrib@...>
 

Hello, I have a relative who died in Danzig/Gdansk around 1926-1935.
Can someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be
located with Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc.

Thanks,

Tom Erribe


Tombstone transliteration - "resh"? #general

Laura Ma'oz <pedocare@...>
 

In transliterating the following name on a tombstone, what is the
relationship of Ephraim to Mordechai: Mordechai rav Ephraim ben rav Yaakov.
The tombstone is very clear - there is no "bet" before the "resh" between
Mordechai and Ephraim. I already checked the infofiles and discussion group
archives. Thanks for any assistance. This is for the JOWBR project.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tombstone transliteration - "resh"? #general

Laura Ma'oz <pedocare@...>
 

In transliterating the following name on a tombstone, what is the
relationship of Ephraim to Mordechai: Mordechai rav Ephraim ben rav Yaakov.
The tombstone is very clear - there is no "bet" before the "resh" between
Mordechai and Ephraim. I already checked the infofiles and discussion group
archives. Thanks for any assistance. This is for the JOWBR project.


Re: Some more professions in Vienna #austria-czech

Hans Jantsch <hans.jantsch@...>
 

Huehnerauge has a medical meaning: clavus, therefore the meaning is someone
who is specialiced in excision of clavus, not necessarily a medical doctor,
having no own office, performing this kind of surgery at the home of his
patients or in a tent in an amusement park.
Hans Jantsch
Vienna

Researching RATZERSDORFER (Vienna, Bratislava, Horice and anywhere else),
DOCTOR (von HOHENLANGEN), ZWEIG.

MODERATOR NOTE: We received numerous responses about Huhneraugenarzt. Since we
know that clavus = corn or callus, this message seems to complete the occupation
description. No other responses will be posted unless they add significantly to
the discussion.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech AW: Some more professions in Vienna #austria-czech

Hans Jantsch <hans.jantsch@...>
 

Huehnerauge has a medical meaning: clavus, therefore the meaning is someone
who is specialiced in excision of clavus, not necessarily a medical doctor,
having no own office, performing this kind of surgery at the home of his
patients or in a tent in an amusement park.
Hans Jantsch
Vienna

Researching RATZERSDORFER (Vienna, Bratislava, Horice and anywhere else),
DOCTOR (von HOHENLANGEN), ZWEIG.

MODERATOR NOTE: We received numerous responses about Huhneraugenarzt. Since we
know that clavus = corn or callus, this message seems to complete the occupation
description. No other responses will be posted unless they add significantly to
the discussion.


Translation from Hebrew #romania

Fern Ward <FRWard@...>
 

I have posted a Wedding certificae on Viewmate. (VM5650 Translation-Hebrew)
If anyone can please advise me who it was for and the date of the marriage,
I would really appreciate it!
Thanks
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5650
Please respond directly to
FRWard@direcpc.com
Thank you
Fern Ward
Laveen, AZ
ZELMANOVICS, KATZ


Translation from Cyrllic #romania

Fern Ward <FRWard@...>
 

I have posted on Viewmate a passport that I believe is in Cyrllic.
If anyone can tell me anything about it - I would be really appreciative!
- Re: Viewmate 5651, 5652. 5653, 5654
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5651

Please respond to
FRWard@direcpc.com

Thank You
Fern Ward
Laveen, AZ
ZELMANOVICS, KATZ


Romania SIG #Romania Translation from Hebrew #romania

Fern Ward <FRWard@...>
 

I have posted a Wedding certificae on Viewmate. (VM5650 Translation-Hebrew)
If anyone can please advise me who it was for and the date of the marriage,
I would really appreciate it!
Thanks
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5650
Please respond directly to
FRWard@direcpc.com
Thank you
Fern Ward
Laveen, AZ
ZELMANOVICS, KATZ


Romania SIG #Romania Translation from Cyrllic #romania

Fern Ward <FRWard@...>
 

I have posted on Viewmate a passport that I believe is in Cyrllic.
If anyone can tell me anything about it - I would be really appreciative!
- Re: Viewmate 5651, 5652. 5653, 5654
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5651

Please respond to
FRWard@direcpc.com

Thank You
Fern Ward
Laveen, AZ
ZELMANOVICS, KATZ


Identification of GGM's Birthplace #belarus

Paul A. Auerbach
 

Genners,

I'm having trouble identifying the birthplace of my great grandmother, and
was hoping one of you might be able to help me. The only thing I'm fairly
certain of is that my GGM was born somewhere in Belarus between 1894 and
1897. According to her Ellis Island passenger record, she was born in
Kownati, Witebsk Gubernia, Russia. I've searched JewishGen's Shtetl Seeker
and other sources extensively, but couldn't find any towns that sound like
"Kownati" in the Witebsk (Vitebsk) Gubernia. I did, however, find several
towns named "Kownaty" in Poland, at least two of which were near Belarus
(but nowhere near the Vitebsk Gubernia). The Ellis Island passenger lists
for my GGM's parents and siblings refer to towns named "Kovnat," "Kownat" or
"Kawnot," also in the Witebsk Gubernia. The 1930 U.S. federal census shows
the birthplace of my GGM and her parents, but I'm unable to make it out
(it's clearly something other than "Kownati"). I've posted an extract from
that census record on ViewMate in the hope that someone might be able to
recognize the town name:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5668

My GGM's application for a U.S. Social Security number says she was born in
Latvia. Finally, my father thinks my GGM was born in Pinsk, Belarus. Any
thoughts or suggestions?

Please reply directly to me at PAuerbach@yahoo.com.

Thanks very much for your help.

Paul Auerbach
Boston, Massachusetts

Researching:

ARONSON (Podolia (Gubernia), Ukraine),AUERBACH / AVERBUKH (Chisinau, Moldova)
BENJAMIN (Ostroleka, Poland),CHAKUM (Maisiagala / Vilnius, Lithuania)
KAPLAN (Minsk, Belarus),LEVINE (Vilnius, Lithuania)
MINKIN (Vitebsk (Gubernia) / Pinsk, Belarus),NEEDLE / NUDELL (Odessa, Ukraine)
PELICAN / PELIKAN (London, England / Krakow, Poland),ROSENLICHT (Krakow, Poland)
TAFFET / (Krakow, Poland)


Belarus SIG #Belarus Identification of GGM's Birthplace #belarus

Paul A. Auerbach
 

Genners,

I'm having trouble identifying the birthplace of my great grandmother, and
was hoping one of you might be able to help me. The only thing I'm fairly
certain of is that my GGM was born somewhere in Belarus between 1894 and
1897. According to her Ellis Island passenger record, she was born in
Kownati, Witebsk Gubernia, Russia. I've searched JewishGen's Shtetl Seeker
and other sources extensively, but couldn't find any towns that sound like
"Kownati" in the Witebsk (Vitebsk) Gubernia. I did, however, find several
towns named "Kownaty" in Poland, at least two of which were near Belarus
(but nowhere near the Vitebsk Gubernia). The Ellis Island passenger lists
for my GGM's parents and siblings refer to towns named "Kovnat," "Kownat" or
"Kawnot," also in the Witebsk Gubernia. The 1930 U.S. federal census shows
the birthplace of my GGM and her parents, but I'm unable to make it out
(it's clearly something other than "Kownati"). I've posted an extract from
that census record on ViewMate in the hope that someone might be able to
recognize the town name:

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5668

My GGM's application for a U.S. Social Security number says she was born in
Latvia. Finally, my father thinks my GGM was born in Pinsk, Belarus. Any
thoughts or suggestions?

Please reply directly to me at PAuerbach@yahoo.com.

Thanks very much for your help.

Paul Auerbach
Boston, Massachusetts

Researching:

ARONSON (Podolia (Gubernia), Ukraine),AUERBACH / AVERBUKH (Chisinau, Moldova)
BENJAMIN (Ostroleka, Poland),CHAKUM (Maisiagala / Vilnius, Lithuania)
KAPLAN (Minsk, Belarus),LEVINE (Vilnius, Lithuania)
MINKIN (Vitebsk (Gubernia) / Pinsk, Belarus),NEEDLE / NUDELL (Odessa, Ukraine)
PELICAN / PELIKAN (London, England / Krakow, Poland),ROSENLICHT (Krakow, Poland)
TAFFET / (Krakow, Poland)


Prostejov Shoah victims online #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

Hi all,

The list of Jewish Shoah victims >from Prostejov (Prossnitz), CZR is now
online on JewishGen's Holocaust Database. I transcribed the names >from
photos I took last summer of the memorial plaques in the Jewish cemetery
there, and later received some transcription assistance >from Maud Beer
(thanks again, Maud). Unfortuantely, I don't see a way on the website for
one to view the entire list, but you can enter specific surnames on the main
Database webpage. Even typing "Prostejov" as a town or Global Text search
does NOT result in this part of the larger JG Holocaust Database appearing.
There was little information on the plaques - names but no birthdates. I
believe that most of them were deported >from Olomouc, and I suppose one
could verify birthdates >from the Terezin deportation lists book (Terezinska
Pametni Kniha).

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0118_prostejov.html

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Searching: GRUNHUT, KOCH - Prostejov, CZR (among others)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Prostejov Shoah victims online #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

Hi all,

The list of Jewish Shoah victims >from Prostejov (Prossnitz), CZR is now
online on JewishGen's Holocaust Database. I transcribed the names >from
photos I took last summer of the memorial plaques in the Jewish cemetery
there, and later received some transcription assistance >from Maud Beer
(thanks again, Maud). Unfortuantely, I don't see a way on the website for
one to view the entire list, but you can enter specific surnames on the main
Database webpage. Even typing "Prostejov" as a town or Global Text search
does NOT result in this part of the larger JG Holocaust Database appearing.
There was little information on the plaques - names but no birthdates. I
believe that most of them were deported >from Olomouc, and I suppose one
could verify birthdates >from the Terezin deportation lists book (Terezinska
Pametni Kniha).

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0118_prostejov.html

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Searching: GRUNHUT, KOCH - Prostejov, CZR (among others)


I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis #usa

Martin Fischer
 

When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The
first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning
local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that

L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the I.O.F.S. of
I. Progress Lodge.

I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but
does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was?

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois

Fischer and Levin family history Web site: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Early American SIG #USA I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis #usa

Martin Fischer
 

When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The
first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning
local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that

L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the I.O.F.S. of
I. Progress Lodge.

I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but
does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was?

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois

Fischer and Levin family history Web site: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


HARRIS family photos on ViewMate #usa

Martin Fischer
 

Seeking descendants of Gershon HARRIS and his son Moe HARRIS, and another
son and daughter and Gerson's wife, whose names are not known. Gershon
HARRIS's father was named Harry KREWIANSKI, who is believed to have lived in
Sejny, Poland. Gershon and his family are believed to have immigrated to
Cleveland, Ohio, and one or more of his children are believed to have spent
some time in a Jewish orphans home in Cleveland.

Please see Viewmate photos 5661 through 5664 at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5661
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5662
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5663
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5664

Thank you.

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA

The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Early American SIG #USA HARRIS family photos on ViewMate #usa

Martin Fischer
 

Seeking descendants of Gershon HARRIS and his son Moe HARRIS, and another
son and daughter and Gerson's wife, whose names are not known. Gershon
HARRIS's father was named Harry KREWIANSKI, who is believed to have lived in
Sejny, Poland. Gershon and his family are believed to have immigrated to
Cleveland, Ohio, and one or more of his children are believed to have spent
some time in a Jewish orphans home in Cleveland.

Please see Viewmate photos 5661 through 5664 at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5661
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5662
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5663
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5664

Thank you.

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA

The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/