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Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Good luck David.
It's been a long haul and your work has been,
I'm sure, very much appreciated by so many
people.

Wishing you success and fulfillment in your
future projects and happiness with your family.
You've done a great job.

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Belarus SIG digest" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "belarus digest recipients" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:00 AM
Subject: belarus digest: March 07, 2005


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Support the work of the Belarus SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/belarus.html
*******************************************************
BELARUS Digest for Monday, March 07, 2005.

1. new articles - Belarus SIG newsletter
2. Belarus SIG Coordinator Stepping Down Immediately

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Subject: new articles - Belarus SIG newsletter
From: Fran Bock <franbock@optonline.net>
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:19:39 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Fellow Genners,

Two new articles have been posted to the Belarus SIG online newsletter.
--In "A Visit to Four Villages" Howard Gilman presents a vivid photo
essay
on his trip to the ancestral towns of his grandparents.
--Shana Egan's detective story of "How I Found Shimshim" is a case study
in finding a needle in a haystack when you don't even know where the
haystack is.

Please click on:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

Fran Bock, Editor
Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
franbock@optonline.net


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Subject: Belarus SIG Coordinator Stepping Down Immediately
From: "David M. Fox" <davefox73@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:58:10 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

Dear SIG Members:

This message is one of the hardest things I have had to do. However, the
time has come for me to step down as your SIG Coordinator, effective
immediately. The SIG has been a labor of love since we started with a
group
of about 20 people at a late night unscheduled meeting at the Los Angeles
IAJGS Conference in 1998. After we had decided to form a Belarus SIG, I
asked for people interested in volunteering to be the SIG coordinator. No
one wanted the job, so I agreed to take on the job because I felt it was
important to have a group that was devoted to Jewish genealogy research in
what is now Belarus . It is now over six and a half years later and I am
still the coordinator because no one else was willing to take over the
leadership. It is not healthy for any organization to continue with the
same leader. An organization needs new ideas, new directions, and new
approaches to make it grow and prosper. Our organization has grown >from
20
to over 1,750 and I am sure there is someone among you who are better
qualified to take the Belarus SIG forward in the years ahead. I have been
trying to find someone to take over as the SIG coordinator for quite some
time, but have not been successful. I was hoping someone would come
forward
so there could be an orderly transfer of leadership, but that was not to
be.
Even so, I tried to hang in longer, but a few recent incidents have
finally
driven me to step down now. One involved a former member of the SIG who
refused to be a team player and wait for the SIG to obtain all the records
for the shtetl. As a result of his selfish desire to get his own records
from Belarus for a single shtetl, he has contributed to closing down
access
to the Minsk archive by the SIG. A second recent effort by a SIG member
to
try and put me into a situation of choosing sides in a private dispute
finally broke the camels back.

I have always tried to be helpful and fair in my dealings with SIG
members,
translators, and researchers. While I have no personal family ties to
shtetls in Vitebsk, Grodno, and Vilna, I made efforts to push projects in
these gubernia. Over the years, I have been blessed with some great
people
who helped to make the SIG what it is today: Risa Heywood, Elsbeth Paikin,
Vitaly Charny, Mike Meshenberg, Edward Rosenbaum, Nancy Holden, Fran Boch,
Paula Zieselman and Joanne Saltman (I appologize in advance for leaving
anyone off this list). What made it so wonderful for me was that we all
worked so well together. There was no acrimony or infighting, unlike many
other organizations. No one was on an ego trip and it was a great team
effort. I would also like to thank the many others who have volunteered
in
one capacity or another to make the SIG so successful. In addition, I
want
to thank all of you who opened your wallets so generously to allow the SIG
to accomplish it's tasks. Last but not least, I would like to thank
JewishGen and it's leadership team for all their support over the years.
The Belarus SIG organized within the JewishGen to avoid a lot of
administrative burdens and was the first SIG to be so organized. Other
SIGs
have followed in our footsteps. While some people thought the SIG lost
its
independence by how we organized, I still think it was the right way to
avoid the administrative headaches of having a treasurer, filing tax
returns, etc.

There is much more to do and I hope that all of the workers will continue
doing what they have been doing and try to make the transition to a new
SIG
coordinator as smooth as possible. This evening I spoke with Susan King
and
she will be forming a transition team. I urge anyone who is interested in
helping the SIG to contact Susan <susan.king@jewishgen.org> or Joanna
Fletcher <jfletcher@jewishgen.org> as soon as possible.

I look forward to working on documenting my own genealogy, writing a
family
history, and spending more time with my grandkids and my lovely wife who
sometimes thought I was married to the SIG and not to her. She has been
most patient and considerate in putting up with my many hours on the
computer doing SIG business.

My best wishes to all and thank you again for all your support over the
years.

Dave

David Fox
Arnold, MD




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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: belarus digest: March 07, 2005 #belarus

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Good luck David.
It's been a long haul and your work has been,
I'm sure, very much appreciated by so many
people.

Wishing you success and fulfillment in your
future projects and happiness with your family.
You've done a great job.

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----- Original Message -----
From: "Belarus SIG digest" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
To: "belarus digest recipients" <belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 1:00 AM
Subject: belarus digest: March 07, 2005


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Support the work of the Belarus SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/belarus.html
*******************************************************
BELARUS Digest for Monday, March 07, 2005.

1. new articles - Belarus SIG newsletter
2. Belarus SIG Coordinator Stepping Down Immediately

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: new articles - Belarus SIG newsletter
From: Fran Bock <franbock@optonline.net>
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 10:19:39 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Dear Fellow Genners,

Two new articles have been posted to the Belarus SIG online newsletter.
--In "A Visit to Four Villages" Howard Gilman presents a vivid photo
essay
on his trip to the ancestral towns of his grandparents.
--Shana Egan's detective story of "How I Found Shimshim" is a case study
in finding a needle in a haystack when you don't even know where the
haystack is.

Please click on:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm

Fran Bock, Editor
Belarus SIG Online Newsletter
franbock@optonline.net


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Belarus SIG Coordinator Stepping Down Immediately
From: "David M. Fox" <davefox73@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 21:58:10 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

Dear SIG Members:

This message is one of the hardest things I have had to do. However, the
time has come for me to step down as your SIG Coordinator, effective
immediately. The SIG has been a labor of love since we started with a
group
of about 20 people at a late night unscheduled meeting at the Los Angeles
IAJGS Conference in 1998. After we had decided to form a Belarus SIG, I
asked for people interested in volunteering to be the SIG coordinator. No
one wanted the job, so I agreed to take on the job because I felt it was
important to have a group that was devoted to Jewish genealogy research in
what is now Belarus . It is now over six and a half years later and I am
still the coordinator because no one else was willing to take over the
leadership. It is not healthy for any organization to continue with the
same leader. An organization needs new ideas, new directions, and new
approaches to make it grow and prosper. Our organization has grown >from
20
to over 1,750 and I am sure there is someone among you who are better
qualified to take the Belarus SIG forward in the years ahead. I have been
trying to find someone to take over as the SIG coordinator for quite some
time, but have not been successful. I was hoping someone would come
forward
so there could be an orderly transfer of leadership, but that was not to
be.
Even so, I tried to hang in longer, but a few recent incidents have
finally
driven me to step down now. One involved a former member of the SIG who
refused to be a team player and wait for the SIG to obtain all the records
for the shtetl. As a result of his selfish desire to get his own records
from Belarus for a single shtetl, he has contributed to closing down
access
to the Minsk archive by the SIG. A second recent effort by a SIG member
to
try and put me into a situation of choosing sides in a private dispute
finally broke the camels back.

I have always tried to be helpful and fair in my dealings with SIG
members,
translators, and researchers. While I have no personal family ties to
shtetls in Vitebsk, Grodno, and Vilna, I made efforts to push projects in
these gubernia. Over the years, I have been blessed with some great
people
who helped to make the SIG what it is today: Risa Heywood, Elsbeth Paikin,
Vitaly Charny, Mike Meshenberg, Edward Rosenbaum, Nancy Holden, Fran Boch,
Paula Zieselman and Joanne Saltman (I appologize in advance for leaving
anyone off this list). What made it so wonderful for me was that we all
worked so well together. There was no acrimony or infighting, unlike many
other organizations. No one was on an ego trip and it was a great team
effort. I would also like to thank the many others who have volunteered
in
one capacity or another to make the SIG so successful. In addition, I
want
to thank all of you who opened your wallets so generously to allow the SIG
to accomplish it's tasks. Last but not least, I would like to thank
JewishGen and it's leadership team for all their support over the years.
The Belarus SIG organized within the JewishGen to avoid a lot of
administrative burdens and was the first SIG to be so organized. Other
SIGs
have followed in our footsteps. While some people thought the SIG lost
its
independence by how we organized, I still think it was the right way to
avoid the administrative headaches of having a treasurer, filing tax
returns, etc.

There is much more to do and I hope that all of the workers will continue
doing what they have been doing and try to make the transition to a new
SIG
coordinator as smooth as possible. This evening I spoke with Susan King
and
she will be forming a transition team. I urge anyone who is interested in
helping the SIG to contact Susan <susan.king@jewishgen.org> or Joanna
Fletcher <jfletcher@jewishgen.org> as soon as possible.

I look forward to working on documenting my own genealogy, writing a
family
history, and spending more time with my grandkids and my lovely wife who
sometimes thought I was married to the SIG and not to her. She has been
most patient and considerate in putting up with my many hours on the
computer doing SIG business.

My best wishes to all and thank you again for all your support over the
years.

Dave

David Fox
Arnold, MD




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END OF DIGEST

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<belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Remember to send your message in PLAIN TEXT and sign
with your full name and location

Belarus SIG Webpage: <http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus>;
Belarus Online Newsletter:
<http://www.jewishgen.org/Belarus/newsletter/bnl_index.htm>;

Join the Research Trip to Belarus
<http://www.jewishgen.org/shtetlschleppers/>;

This SIG (belarus@lyris.jewishgen.org) is hosted by
JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy
Visit our home page at http://www.jewishgen.org
****************************************************
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Thank you, Dave #belarus

Paul & Irene Berman <ikpjb@...>
 

As one who has greatly appreciated the work that Dave Fox has done for all
of us who subscribe to the Belarus SIG, I want to say 'THANK YOU" and
"SORRY" that some Siggers have abused you. Good luck to you and your wife
in this new era of your lives together.

Irene Berman
Shoham, Israel
Belarus SIG #Belarus Thank you, Dave #belarus

Paul & Irene Berman <ikpjb@...>
 

As one who has greatly appreciated the work that Dave Fox has done for all
of us who subscribe to the Belarus SIG, I want to say 'THANK YOU" and
"SORRY" that some Siggers have abused you. Good luck to you and your wife
in this new era of your lives together.

Irene Berman
Shoham, Israel
Re: Belarus SIG Coordinator Stepping Down Immediately #belarus

Larry Gaum <lgaum@...>
 

I would like to personally thank David for his devotion and dedication to
the Belarus SIG and the many, long, unpaid hours he gave to our
organization.
In several instances, when I had contact with him on a one-to-one basis, I
found David to be kind, considerate, helpful and friendly. His bottom line
was always the Belarus SIG and he took nothing for himself. I've never met
David, but I have a great deal of respect for him and I want to wish him
good health and good luck in his future endeavors. I hope he is only
stepping down as coordinator and will still be one of our active members.
Thank you David
Dr. Larry Gaum
Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Belarus SIG Coordinator Stepping Down Immediately #belarus

Larry Gaum <lgaum@...>
 

I would like to personally thank David for his devotion and dedication to
the Belarus SIG and the many, long, unpaid hours he gave to our
organization.
In several instances, when I had contact with him on a one-to-one basis, I
found David to be kind, considerate, helpful and friendly. His bottom line
was always the Belarus SIG and he took nothing for himself. I've never met
David, but I have a great deal of respect for him and I want to wish him
good health and good luck in his future endeavors. I hope he is only
stepping down as coordinator and will still be one of our active members.
Thank you David
Dr. Larry Gaum
re research in Ukraine and Poland #ukraine

Joanne Saltman <js24saltman@...>
 

The best way to get research data is to join a Shtetl group-a group of
people who are researching the same area. You can pool your resources and
get information for a list of names for that area. The archivists from
these areas have told us that many of these records are old and in poor
condition-consequently they do not want to research them often. They would
prefer we purchase large groups of records or have a list of names >from a
particular area. If you don't see a special interest group for your
town-start one-the JGFF can give you the names of others researching your
area-and select several towns in the vicinity because not only did our
ancestors move around a lot-but often they would be registered in one town
and living in another. Or often the records for a group of towns would be
in the largest town in the district.
Joanne Saltman
Volhynia coordinator
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine re research in Ukraine and Poland #ukraine

Joanne Saltman <js24saltman@...>
 

The best way to get research data is to join a Shtetl group-a group of
people who are researching the same area. You can pool your resources and
get information for a list of names for that area. The archivists from
these areas have told us that many of these records are old and in poor
condition-consequently they do not want to research them often. They would
prefer we purchase large groups of records or have a list of names >from a
particular area. If you don't see a special interest group for your
town-start one-the JGFF can give you the names of others researching your
area-and select several towns in the vicinity because not only did our
ancestors move around a lot-but often they would be registered in one town
and living in another. Or often the records for a group of towns would be
in the largest town in the district.
Joanne Saltman
Volhynia coordinator
Deciphering places; Matzva Confusion and Av Beit Din of Checiny #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

Dear Group ~

Before I proceed with my questions I want to take a moment to give a very
warm thanks to all of you who have responded to my preious querys; the time
you have spend to help with translations and make suggestions and provide
guidance had been phenomenal; very hepful and incredible appreciated. In
many cases you have been the reasons that my research has progressed and I
am truly greatful.
That being said I hope the following requests will be of a much easier caliber.

1)A Russian govt document >from the late 1800s was translated for me with the
following information:

Keletskoy Gubernia; Sipushey or Onpushsky uezed and city of Oipusha or
Onpucha.
The closest I could come was Opoczna in Kielce.
Does that make sense or am I missing semething?

2)I have a postcard written by my ggg grandfather in which he signs it "son
of the Gaon HaTzaddik SheHaya Av Beis Din Checiny" which means "son of the
Chief Rabinic Judge of Checiny". Is anyone aware as to how I might be able
to trace who this Chief Rabbi might be? He lived >from the late 1700s to
sometime in the 1800s (dates unsure).

I anyone familiar with a book called "Slownik Historii Kielckich Zydow"
writtten by Krzysztof Urbanski and Rafal Blumenfeld? It has been suggested
that I might find some answers in this book and I'm wondering if anyone
might have it in his posession or have a suggestion as to where to locate
it.

3) The matzva of this Rabbi's granddaughter reads: Leah bat shin shin
R'Israel Icyk grandson of the genius Rabbi shin shin R'Shimon haTzaddek.
Any suggestions as to the meaning of the "shin shins"?

Thank you, as always for your time and help.

Best regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
linsilv@nc.rr.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Deciphering places; Matzva Confusion and Av Beit Din of Checiny #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

Dear Group ~

Before I proceed with my questions I want to take a moment to give a very
warm thanks to all of you who have responded to my preious querys; the time
you have spend to help with translations and make suggestions and provide
guidance had been phenomenal; very hepful and incredible appreciated. In
many cases you have been the reasons that my research has progressed and I
am truly greatful.
That being said I hope the following requests will be of a much easier caliber.

1)A Russian govt document >from the late 1800s was translated for me with the
following information:

Keletskoy Gubernia; Sipushey or Onpushsky uezed and city of Oipusha or
Onpucha.
The closest I could come was Opoczna in Kielce.
Does that make sense or am I missing semething?

2)I have a postcard written by my ggg grandfather in which he signs it "son
of the Gaon HaTzaddik SheHaya Av Beis Din Checiny" which means "son of the
Chief Rabinic Judge of Checiny". Is anyone aware as to how I might be able
to trace who this Chief Rabbi might be? He lived >from the late 1700s to
sometime in the 1800s (dates unsure).

I anyone familiar with a book called "Slownik Historii Kielckich Zydow"
writtten by Krzysztof Urbanski and Rafal Blumenfeld? It has been suggested
that I might find some answers in this book and I'm wondering if anyone
might have it in his posession or have a suggestion as to where to locate
it.

3) The matzva of this Rabbi's granddaughter reads: Leah bat shin shin
R'Israel Icyk grandson of the genius Rabbi shin shin R'Shimon haTzaddek.
Any suggestions as to the meaning of the "shin shins"?

Thank you, as always for your time and help.

Best regards,
Linda Silverman Shefler
linsilv@nc.rr.com
Thank you on Canton Ohio assistance #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Several days ago I posted an inquiry regarding how to find out if Elias
Perlo who had lived in Canton Ohio had died there- any information about his
life while living there--Within 24 hours 5 wonderful JewishGenners had
offered help with the e-mails of the local resources, offering to obtain the
death certificate - one of whom even knew where this person was buried-
serendipitously having his cousin buried in the same area of the cemetery.
Until this occurred we only had family lore that he in fact lived in Canton
and did not know if he died there. This was so overwhelmingly generous for
all who contacted me-- even though I have sent e-mails to those who
contacted me I wanted everyone to know publicly how gracious and giving
these JewishGenners are.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA

Searching:
FREJER, IMJAK, WILAMOWSKY, KREPLAK, SZAPIRA, SOBOTKO, PIATKOWSKA, PERLA,
ASZ, WAPNIARZ -- Lomza & Stawiski, Poland
REICH, WALD, ZUPNIK/ZSUPNIK, Presov,Slovakia; Szivdnik; Sebes Kellemes,
Hungary (Sarisske Luky, Slovakia) Salgo, Hungary
MEISELS, SEGAL, LIEBERMAN --Brody, Ukraine
KLAJNMAN, SZLANG-- Sochaczew, Poland GUTFARB -- Zambrow, Poland
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you on Canton Ohio assistance #general

jan meisels allen <janmallen@...>
 

Several days ago I posted an inquiry regarding how to find out if Elias
Perlo who had lived in Canton Ohio had died there- any information about his
life while living there--Within 24 hours 5 wonderful JewishGenners had
offered help with the e-mails of the local resources, offering to obtain the
death certificate - one of whom even knew where this person was buried-
serendipitously having his cousin buried in the same area of the cemetery.
Until this occurred we only had family lore that he in fact lived in Canton
and did not know if he died there. This was so overwhelmingly generous for
all who contacted me-- even though I have sent e-mails to those who
contacted me I wanted everyone to know publicly how gracious and giving
these JewishGenners are.

Jan Meisels Allen
Agoura Hills, CA

Searching:
FREJER, IMJAK, WILAMOWSKY, KREPLAK, SZAPIRA, SOBOTKO, PIATKOWSKA, PERLA,
ASZ, WAPNIARZ -- Lomza & Stawiski, Poland
REICH, WALD, ZUPNIK/ZSUPNIK, Presov,Slovakia; Szivdnik; Sebes Kellemes,
Hungary (Sarisske Luky, Slovakia) Salgo, Hungary
MEISELS, SEGAL, LIEBERMAN --Brody, Ukraine
KLAJNMAN, SZLANG-- Sochaczew, Poland GUTFARB -- Zambrow, Poland
ROITMAN / TISHKOWSKY #general

Paul Buch <pbuch@...>
 

I any searching for any information of the family of the noted synagogue
cantor David Roitman, his son (?) Cantor Leo Roitman and his nephew (?)
Cantor Aaron Tishkowsky. The latter two lived in southern California in
the 1950s and 60s, Tishkowsky having come >from Cleveland where he served
in the 40s. Any leads appreciated.

Cantor Paul Buch
Temple Beth Israel
Pomona, CA
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROITMAN / TISHKOWSKY #general

Paul Buch <pbuch@...>
 

I any searching for any information of the family of the noted synagogue
cantor David Roitman, his son (?) Cantor Leo Roitman and his nephew (?)
Cantor Aaron Tishkowsky. The latter two lived in southern California in
the 1950s and 60s, Tishkowsky having come >from Cleveland where he served
in the 40s. Any leads appreciated.

Cantor Paul Buch
Temple Beth Israel
Pomona, CA
Eastern LI Mental Institution #general

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Hello all;

I've got a problem that I hope someone can help me with.

I am trying to obtain information about a woman who was institutionalized
somewhere in the period of 1915 - 1920 on eastern Long Island. The name of
the institution is unknown, but the person in question died while a patient
(probably in the 1950's or 60's) and is buried in the Institution's own
graveyard. Her name was Rose Klein nee Kramer, and she was born in 1891.

We believe she suffered >from Post-partum depression after the birth of her
second child, and her husband placed her in an institution shortly
thereafter, where she remained the remainder of her life. It is presumed to
be a mental institution.

Since she had no SS #, is not in a known cemetery and there was no known
next of kin involved, it is hard to find information about her.

Would anyone know of a mental institution on eastern Long Island that would
have existed in 1915 to 1920 and which has its own cemetery? Or can anyone
tell me how to locate this information?

Thank you for any help or insight you may be able to shed on this problem.

Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Eastern LI Mental Institution #general

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Hello all;

I've got a problem that I hope someone can help me with.

I am trying to obtain information about a woman who was institutionalized
somewhere in the period of 1915 - 1920 on eastern Long Island. The name of
the institution is unknown, but the person in question died while a patient
(probably in the 1950's or 60's) and is buried in the Institution's own
graveyard. Her name was Rose Klein nee Kramer, and she was born in 1891.

We believe she suffered >from Post-partum depression after the birth of her
second child, and her husband placed her in an institution shortly
thereafter, where she remained the remainder of her life. It is presumed to
be a mental institution.

Since she had no SS #, is not in a known cemetery and there was no known
next of kin involved, it is hard to find information about her.

Would anyone know of a mental institution on eastern Long Island that would
have existed in 1915 to 1920 and which has its own cemetery? Or can anyone
tell me how to locate this information?

Thank you for any help or insight you may be able to shed on this problem.

Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net
Military service in Russia? #general

Elsebeth Paikin <jgsdk_ep@...>
 

Does anyone have a suggestion for where to find the rules
and regulations for the military service of Jews in Russia.
We all hear about the 25 years .... but I know of one emigre
who had served 7 years and were then free to settle whereever
he wanted and also to travel out of the country....

I would like to know the years of the laws passed with regards
to this topic.

I have tried to find the information in Dubnow: "History of the Jews
in Poland and Russia", but besides the first law in the 1820ies
I can't find any mention of the later reduction of years of service.
Can anyone help?

Thanking you in advance

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & webmaster of JewishGen's SCANDINAVIA SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
Mutual Kiev Society #general

Lois <loisgk@...>
 

I am seeking information on the Mutual Kiev Burial Society in New York City
for the years 1885 to 1925. Who were the members, where were they from?
Thank you,
Lois Kahn
loisgk@adelphia.net
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Military service in Russia? #general

Elsebeth Paikin <jgsdk_ep@...>
 

Does anyone have a suggestion for where to find the rules
and regulations for the military service of Jews in Russia.
We all hear about the 25 years .... but I know of one emigre
who had served 7 years and were then free to settle whereever
he wanted and also to travel out of the country....

I would like to know the years of the laws passed with regards
to this topic.

I have tried to find the information in Dubnow: "History of the Jews
in Poland and Russia", but besides the first law in the 1820ies
I can't find any mention of the later reduction of years of service.
Can anyone help?

Thanking you in advance

Elsebeth Paikin, Copenhagen, Denmark
Coordinator & webmaster of JewishGen's SCANDINAVIA SIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/scandinavia
mailto:elsebeth@paikin.dk
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mutual Kiev Society #general

Lois <loisgk@...>
 

I am seeking information on the Mutual Kiev Burial Society in New York City
for the years 1885 to 1925. Who were the members, where were they from?
Thank you,
Lois Kahn
loisgk@adelphia.net
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