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Re: h-sig digest: March 06, 2005 #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Thank you Rabbi Avraham Mamorstein.

Indeed I am referring to this Rabbi. In the book I have it says in
Hungarian: "Edesanja Katz Nina, a hires morvaorszagi talmudkutato es
nikolsburgi forabbi, Bendikt Marcus (1753-1828)".

I know it is hard to read this without the accent marks on the letters
but this sentence indeed mentions the fact that Benedikt Marcus was an
important Rabbi in Moravia and Nikolsburg.

If I understand the sentence correctly (my Hungarian is very poor, I
only heard it spoken at home and all I know is what I picked >from my
late parents) Katz Nina was a descendant of Rabbi Benedikt Marcus. Is
this the proper way to read the above sentence?

We have reasons to believe that Katz Nina is related to my Katz family
and if this is true I am on the verge of a huge breakthrough in my
research.

Thank you very much,
Isaac Katz
Beit-Hanania
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Mehadrin@aol.com [mailto:Mehadrin@aol.com]=20
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:33 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: Re:[h-sig] h-sig digest: March 06, 2005

In a message dated 3/7/05 1:43:27 AM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Has any of you come across the name Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828) who
was

a Talmud researcher and an important Rabbi in Moravia?

>>

I think you are referring to the famous Rabbi Mordechai Banet, who was
also=20
called Markus benedikt, and was Chief Rabbi of Moravia living in=20
Mikulov/Nikolsburg.
Rabbi Avrohom Marmorstein
NYC


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: h-sig digest: March 06, 2005 #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

Thank you Rabbi Avraham Mamorstein.

Indeed I am referring to this Rabbi. In the book I have it says in
Hungarian: "Edesanja Katz Nina, a hires morvaorszagi talmudkutato es
nikolsburgi forabbi, Bendikt Marcus (1753-1828)".

I know it is hard to read this without the accent marks on the letters
but this sentence indeed mentions the fact that Benedikt Marcus was an
important Rabbi in Moravia and Nikolsburg.

If I understand the sentence correctly (my Hungarian is very poor, I
only heard it spoken at home and all I know is what I picked >from my
late parents) Katz Nina was a descendant of Rabbi Benedikt Marcus. Is
this the proper way to read the above sentence?

We have reasons to believe that Katz Nina is related to my Katz family
and if this is true I am on the verge of a huge breakthrough in my
research.

Thank you very much,
Isaac Katz
Beit-Hanania
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: Mehadrin@aol.com [mailto:Mehadrin@aol.com]=20
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 4:33 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: Re:[h-sig] h-sig digest: March 06, 2005

In a message dated 3/7/05 1:43:27 AM, h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org writes:

<< Has any of you come across the name Benedikt Marcus (1753--1828) who
was

a Talmud researcher and an important Rabbi in Moravia?

>>

I think you are referring to the famous Rabbi Mordechai Banet, who was
also=20
called Markus benedikt, and was Chief Rabbi of Moravia living in=20
Mikulov/Nikolsburg.
Rabbi Avrohom Marmorstein
NYC


CA deaths before 1930 and finding Jewish temples #general

Seg420@...
 

Chaim Aron KAGAN came into this country between 1910 and 1920. In 1920, he
is living with his daughter and family--Bertha and Joe MINSKY--in Chicago as
Hyman COHEN. He is not found again. My husband and I went to the Jewish
cemeteries in Chicago last fall and did an exhaustive search for him and now
believe that Hyman did not die in Chicago. I believe that he moved to Los
Angeles with one of his children and died before the 1930 census.

In the 1920 and 1930 census, Nathan COHEN is living In Los Angeles City, at
540 St. Louis St.

1920 census, Sarah and Isaac SCHWARTZ are living in Los Angeles City at 611
San Benito and in 1930 in San Gabriel.

In 1930 census, Bella and Bane KATZ are living in Los Angeles City at 336
North Chicago; Bertha and Joe MINSKY were living in El Monte Township on
"Slaughter" (no St. or Ave., or Rd. on census sheet); Bessie and Hyman WEINER are
in El Monte township at 2035 Pomona Blvd; Max POSTER and Sarah are in San
Jose township, 443 Kenoak Dr., Pomona City.

How would I go about finding the Jewish temples they might have attended and
the cemeteries he might be buried in?


Thank you so much!

Susi Godfrey


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen CA deaths before 1930 and finding Jewish temples #general

Seg420@...
 

Chaim Aron KAGAN came into this country between 1910 and 1920. In 1920, he
is living with his daughter and family--Bertha and Joe MINSKY--in Chicago as
Hyman COHEN. He is not found again. My husband and I went to the Jewish
cemeteries in Chicago last fall and did an exhaustive search for him and now
believe that Hyman did not die in Chicago. I believe that he moved to Los
Angeles with one of his children and died before the 1930 census.

In the 1920 and 1930 census, Nathan COHEN is living In Los Angeles City, at
540 St. Louis St.

1920 census, Sarah and Isaac SCHWARTZ are living in Los Angeles City at 611
San Benito and in 1930 in San Gabriel.

In 1930 census, Bella and Bane KATZ are living in Los Angeles City at 336
North Chicago; Bertha and Joe MINSKY were living in El Monte Township on
"Slaughter" (no St. or Ave., or Rd. on census sheet); Bessie and Hyman WEINER are
in El Monte township at 2035 Pomona Blvd; Max POSTER and Sarah are in San
Jose township, 443 Kenoak Dr., Pomona City.

How would I go about finding the Jewish temples they might have attended and
the cemeteries he might be buried in?


Thank you so much!

Susi Godfrey


Looking for SCWITZ #general

Michal Apter <micola@...>
 

Shalom
My GG father Yossel-Joseph SCWITS and his wife Gittel, >from Bukovina,
Austro-Hungaria, now Ukraine, Had 7 children. Moshe, Kalman, Tehila, Besia, Lotti,
Salli, Devora.
2 of his daughters went to U.S.A. - I know their first name only - and
their name >from home: SCWITZ
Batia-Besia [She had an only son]
Tyle-Tehila may be married to FALKENFLIK Moshe , and have few daughters.
May be some one recognize the names??
Thanks in advance
Micol


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for SCWITZ #general

Michal Apter <micola@...>
 

Shalom
My GG father Yossel-Joseph SCWITS and his wife Gittel, >from Bukovina,
Austro-Hungaria, now Ukraine, Had 7 children. Moshe, Kalman, Tehila, Besia, Lotti,
Salli, Devora.
2 of his daughters went to U.S.A. - I know their first name only - and
their name >from home: SCWITZ
Batia-Besia [She had an only son]
Tyle-Tehila may be married to FALKENFLIK Moshe , and have few daughters.
May be some one recognize the names??
Thanks in advance
Micol


Re: Dave Fox #belarus

HeyJudy123@...
 

Though I have written personally to Dave, I did want to add my comments to the
official log.
Dave has gone to enormous efforts on our behalf, and he has made an enormous
contribution for our collective benefit. I am very grateful to him.

I wish him all the best in his newly re-discovered free time, and I know that his
family will have great pleasure in getting him "back" >from his computer.

Judy Segal
New York City


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: Dave Fox #belarus

HeyJudy123@...
 

Though I have written personally to Dave, I did want to add my comments to the
official log.
Dave has gone to enormous efforts on our behalf, and he has made an enormous
contribution for our collective benefit. I am very grateful to him.

I wish him all the best in his newly re-discovered free time, and I know that his
family will have great pleasure in getting him "back" >from his computer.

Judy Segal
New York City


Dave Fox; Archives #belarus

Franklin J. Swartz <eejhp@...>
 

Dear All,

I join with you all in thanking Dave for his unstinting efforts in
promoting the efforts of Jewish genealogists and his dedication, in
particular, for those whose ancestors came >from Belarus. Dave's
undoubted dedication and willingness to help both neophyte and
experienced genealogists, often at the considerable expense of his own
time and research is exceptional and commendable. Dave's daily
presence will, I am sure be sorely missed, but, I am equally certain
that both by example and his continued involvement, as mentor to some,
his efforts will be a progressive influence on the practice of Jewish
genealogy.

As a resident in Belarus I should point out, that access to the
archives has, contrary to rumours, not been restricted. Any researcher
who has notarised authorisation designating him or her to seek
information, on behalf of a person abroad, about a specific family
name >from a specific location is allowed access to the archive. Only
those documents which for conservation purposes are categorised as
'antique' may be subject to limited access until they have been
restored. If anyone knows of instances where authorised research has
not been allowed I will be glad to inquire after the matter.

Once again I extend my gratitude for Dave's fine work and best wishes
to him and Cindy for this next fruitful stage of their lives.

Best regards,

Frank


Franklin J. Swartz
P.O.Box 97
Minsk
220074
Republic of Belarus
eejhp@voluntas.org
http://eejhp.netfirms.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus Dave Fox; Archives #belarus

Franklin J. Swartz <eejhp@...>
 

Dear All,

I join with you all in thanking Dave for his unstinting efforts in
promoting the efforts of Jewish genealogists and his dedication, in
particular, for those whose ancestors came >from Belarus. Dave's
undoubted dedication and willingness to help both neophyte and
experienced genealogists, often at the considerable expense of his own
time and research is exceptional and commendable. Dave's daily
presence will, I am sure be sorely missed, but, I am equally certain
that both by example and his continued involvement, as mentor to some,
his efforts will be a progressive influence on the practice of Jewish
genealogy.

As a resident in Belarus I should point out, that access to the
archives has, contrary to rumours, not been restricted. Any researcher
who has notarised authorisation designating him or her to seek
information, on behalf of a person abroad, about a specific family
name >from a specific location is allowed access to the archive. Only
those documents which for conservation purposes are categorised as
'antique' may be subject to limited access until they have been
restored. If anyone knows of instances where authorised research has
not been allowed I will be glad to inquire after the matter.

Once again I extend my gratitude for Dave's fine work and best wishes
to him and Cindy for this next fruitful stage of their lives.

Best regards,

Frank


Franklin J. Swartz
P.O.Box 97
Minsk
220074
Republic of Belarus
eejhp@voluntas.org
http://eejhp.netfirms.com


Pictures on ViewMate #poland

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

hi all,

please take a look at 2 pictures i posted at view mate
at jewish gen.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5645

this one is a wedding photo, c. 1905 taken in or
around Sejny, Poland. I'm told the family name was
KOWINOWSKI, but this may be wrong. i do know they
owned tanneries and leather factories. is there anyone
there that looks familiar to you? is the name
KOWINOWSKI familiar? i'd be happy to email anyone a
larger version of the photo.

the 2nd picture
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5646
is of my great uncle Nasanel KOWALSKI, also >from Sejny
(he became sam kwall in pittsburgh, PA, USA and was a
tailor) he is the one standing. i'm trying to identify
the man who is sitting. he was a WWI soldier, and the
photo was taken around 1918 probably in pittsburgh. to
me, they look like a gay couple (because of how
tenderly they are touching, mostly), which is entirely
possible as my great uncle died a bachelor late in
life. if this man was special to my great uncle (or
even if he was just a friend) i'd love to know his
name.

thanks for looking!

dayna chalif
san franicsco, CA. USA

**please reply privately**


JRI Poland #Poland Pictures on ViewMate #poland

dayna reader <zoeys_mom@...>
 

hi all,

please take a look at 2 pictures i posted at view mate
at jewish gen.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5645

this one is a wedding photo, c. 1905 taken in or
around Sejny, Poland. I'm told the family name was
KOWINOWSKI, but this may be wrong. i do know they
owned tanneries and leather factories. is there anyone
there that looks familiar to you? is the name
KOWINOWSKI familiar? i'd be happy to email anyone a
larger version of the photo.

the 2nd picture
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5646
is of my great uncle Nasanel KOWALSKI, also >from Sejny
(he became sam kwall in pittsburgh, PA, USA and was a
tailor) he is the one standing. i'm trying to identify
the man who is sitting. he was a WWI soldier, and the
photo was taken around 1918 probably in pittsburgh. to
me, they look like a gay couple (because of how
tenderly they are touching, mostly), which is entirely
possible as my great uncle died a bachelor late in
life. if this man was special to my great uncle (or
even if he was just a friend) i'd love to know his
name.

thanks for looking!

dayna chalif
san franicsco, CA. USA

**please reply privately**


query re Riga soap factory and lard #general

Rochelle Kaplan <rochelle@...>
 

I received a report >from my Latvian genealogist in which he found a file
on my gguncle, Itsik Jossel GERSON entitled "About permission to Itzik
Jossel Gersohn to open a factory for smelting lard, dated >from 7/1/1888
to 9/8/1888, in Riga. The factory had already existed on the site and
had its equipment. He did not receive permission >from authorities since
they feared an influx of Jewish workers not having the right to live in
Riga residing in Riga.

My question: Is it possible that my Jewish gguncle would have wished to
open a lard smelting, soap making property, since lard is pork fat and
that is unclean? When I queried the genealogist, he said the Russian
phrase used was "salotopelniy zavod" and that now "salo" refers to pig.
I wonder if the factory could have used tallow (>from beef, cows).

Thanks.

Rochelle Kaplan
Salt Lake City


Do your homework - use the Internet #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

Dear Genners:
Before you ask us to find information about living people or those
who have recently departed, please consider doing a search yourself
using the Internet. Try using one of the search engines such as
Google or Yahoo and typing in your relative's name using quote marks
around the entire name.
Also remember to reverse the order; putting the surname first often
yields results in long lists of names or authors of books. Using a
telephone directory often yields the person's current telephone
number and address. Using some of the free genealogy sources (such as
Rootsweb) often provides information, sometimes family trees, etc.

If I can find your missing relative on the Internet, you can, too!

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen query re Riga soap factory and lard #general

Rochelle Kaplan <rochelle@...>
 

I received a report >from my Latvian genealogist in which he found a file
on my gguncle, Itsik Jossel GERSON entitled "About permission to Itzik
Jossel Gersohn to open a factory for smelting lard, dated >from 7/1/1888
to 9/8/1888, in Riga. The factory had already existed on the site and
had its equipment. He did not receive permission >from authorities since
they feared an influx of Jewish workers not having the right to live in
Riga residing in Riga.

My question: Is it possible that my Jewish gguncle would have wished to
open a lard smelting, soap making property, since lard is pork fat and
that is unclean? When I queried the genealogist, he said the Russian
phrase used was "salotopelniy zavod" and that now "salo" refers to pig.
I wonder if the factory could have used tallow (>from beef, cows).

Thanks.

Rochelle Kaplan
Salt Lake City


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Do your homework - use the Internet #general

Barbara Zimmer <bravo.zulu@...>
 

Dear Genners:
Before you ask us to find information about living people or those
who have recently departed, please consider doing a search yourself
using the Internet. Try using one of the search engines such as
Google or Yahoo and typing in your relative's name using quote marks
around the entire name.
Also remember to reverse the order; putting the surname first often
yields results in long lists of names or authors of books. Using a
telephone directory often yields the person's current telephone
number and address. Using some of the free genealogy sources (such as
Rootsweb) often provides information, sometimes family trees, etc.

If I can find your missing relative on the Internet, you can, too!

Barbara Zimmer
Virginia


Re: Original Congregants, Eldridge St. Synagogue, Lower East Side, NYC #general

Barbara Ellman <barbaraellman@...>
 

In response to Tom Chatt's request for further recommendations for sites in
the Lower East Side, I would strongly recommend the tour provided by the
Lower East Side Conservancy.

Many of the sights are not readily available without arrangements made in
advance. Lower East Side Conservancy takes you to the best sights with all
arrangements to get into those buildings.

Barbara Ellman
Secaucus, NJ


Query about the Lower East Side and Jewish New York #general

HeyJudy123@...
 

Yesterday, in response to a posting I had made earlier about two museums with
Jewish connections on New York City's Lower East Side (The Tenement Museum and
The Eldridge Street Synagogue), participant Tom Chatt posted a request. He asked
for further information on Jewish sites in New York which would be of interest
to visitors to the city.

I have written directly to Tom with my recommendations (purely personal), as this
information does not strictly fall within the genealogy charge of JewishGen, but
I gladly will share these same details with any other interested participant as
well.

Judy Segal
New York City


KEIDAN VRI: a call for Zamlers #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <oz@...>
 

Dear Fellow Keidaners:

As I was thinking of something new and different to say, two pieces of news
came to me.

The first was an email >from Sam Schleman. He has already contributed
generously to our Vital Records Indexing project, but he expressed the wish
to help generate more funds to expedite the progress of this effort.

Sam had tallied up his known living relatives and came up with some
200--all of them descendants of Keidaners. "What I would like to do is
to send out an email to all these relatives, describing the Keidan Vital
Records project and asking them to make contributions to the project,"
wrote Sam. "Of course, if other Keidaners were to do this, we might raise
additional [monies] for the project." Sam went on to explore the
possibility of allocating the individual contributions of his relatives
to a cumulative Schleyerman Family Fund.

As I reflected on Sam's touching gesture, I realized he was responding
to the ancient call for Zamlers.

In the 19th century the great Jewish historian Simon Dubnow issued an
appealfor Zamlers to round up communal records and historical documents
in theremote shtetlach of the Russian Pale. Were it not for these Zamlers,
the"History of the Jews in Russia and Poland" and "The World History of
theJewish People" might never have been written.

When YIVO was founded in Vilna in 1925, hundreds of Zamlers answered
their call, collecting documents and records for the YIVO archives. And
much more recently Aaron Lansky, the founder of the National Yiddish
Book Center, said he owes his greatest success in collecting 1.5 million
Yiddish books to his team of energetic Zamlers.

In Yiddish "zamler" means "a collector." The ancient Zamlers traveled
onfoot or, if they were lucky, by horse and wagon. Today's Zamlers can
networkon the internet.

If the Keidan VRI project is going to blossom in 2005, we need the help
ofZamlers. You can be a contributor, you can be a Zamler, or you can be
both. If you select "Both," you will immediately qualify for the "Mentsh
of theMonth" award.

As Joel Ratner has already announced in an earlier post, a translator
has been assigned to the Keidan vital records, and work is about to begin.
Butthe challenge will be to keep the translator translating. We have
sufficient monies to pay for the translation of an initial batch of
records. But thousands more records are waiting for your funding. Make
it happen.

Email me to receive the easy VRI donor form and send it with your
contribution to:

LITVAKSIG, Inc., Department 77-9253, Chicago, IL 60678-9253.
And then go out and be a Zamler!

Olga Zabludoff, Coordinator
Kedainiai/Keidan VRI Project
oz@interate.com


Plunge records #lithuania

Davida Noyek Handler <dnhiowa@...>
 

Rachmiel Koltun <RKOLTUN@peoplepc.com> writes:

> I would like know the grandfhater name and surname (>from PLUNGE).
I try to help him. <

The LitvakSIG Vital Records Project has records awaiting translation for
Plunge for the following years:

Births 1839-1913
Marriages 1846-1913
Divorces 1839-1874
Deaths 1842-1914

Please contact Joel Ratner, Vital Records Project Coordinator at
joelrat1@hotmail.com, to learn how you can participate of this exciting
project, and in the process find the information that you are seeking as
well as helping future generations of Plunge researchers.

Good luck in your search.

Davida Noyek Handler
President, LitvakSIG