The Horowitz Families Association is glad to inform
that its Spring excursion "In the footsteps of the
Horowitz clan – founders and fighters in Upper
Galilee" will take place on Monday, 10 Adar Bet 5765,
March 21, 2005. Its itinerary is contained in the 22th
issue of our "Yedion" and can be found at our website
at http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation, click
on "Yedion 22".

Shlomo Gurevich
The Horowitz Families Association's Board member,
responsible for ties with the family branches in
Diaspora
Hoshaya, Israel
shl2gur@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur





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I would just like to add my thanks and best wishes to Dave for all his work
on the SIG - I think the messages sent today said it all!
Alice Rifkind Gutenkauf

The Horowitz Families Association is glad to inform
that its Spring excursion "In the footsteps of the
Horowitz clan – founders and fighters in Upper
Galilee" will take place on Monday, 10 Adar Bet 5765,
March 21, 2005. Its itinerary is contained in the 22th
issue of our "Yedion" and can be found at our website
at http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation, click
on "Yedion 22".

Shlomo Gurevich
The Horowitz Families Association's Board member,
responsible for ties with the family branches in
Diaspora
Hoshaya, Israel
shl2gur@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur





__________________________________
Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday!
Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/

I would just like to add my thanks and best wishes to Dave for all his work
on the SIG - I think the messages sent today said it all!
Alice Rifkind Gutenkauf

Dave

I have never contacted you privately, but >from what i saw in the last days,

from the infromation you gave during the last years and >from the great work

you did, i learned that you wanted to help others only for your joy that you
make someone in the world a little more happy because he found one more link
in his tree.
Thanks you for that.
and may G-D be with you in all your ways.

Mario König
Israel

Dave

I have never contacted you privately, but >from what i saw in the last days,

from the infromation you gave during the last years and >from the great work

you did, i learned that you wanted to help others only for your joy that you
make someone in the world a little more happy because he found one more link
in his tree.
Thanks you for that.
and may G-D be with you in all your ways.

Mario König
Israel

One of those buried in the old rabbinic section of the Hevron
cemetery (Reishit Hochma) is a Rav Chaim Katz, who is identified
there as "Baal 'Eretz Hayyim' and grandson of the samekh-mem-ayin."
My rashei teivot reference says that this is either "Maor Einayyim"
or "Meirat Einayyim" and Atlas Etz Hayyim has two of each of those.

Does anyone know who R' Chaim Katz' grandfather was and what was the
name of his sefer?

Israel Pickholtz

One of those buried in the old rabbinic section of the Hevron
cemetery (Reishit Hochma) is a Rav Chaim Katz, who is identified
there as "Baal 'Eretz Hayyim' and grandson of the samekh-mem-ayin."
My rashei teivot reference says that this is either "Maor Einayyim"
or "Meirat Einayyim" and Atlas Etz Hayyim has two of each of those.

Does anyone know who R' Chaim Katz' grandfather was and what was the
name of his sefer?

Israel Pickholtz

Genners:
I agree wholeheartedly with Joanne Saltman. Pooling information makes
nothing but good sense. Anyone out there who is focusing on Kirovograd
(Elisavetgrad) and Zvenigorodka? Both these towns are close to Kiev. I
have emailed the Kiev State Archives but so far no response.

Thanks for any help.

Researching GRECHEVSKY/GRUSHEVSKIJ and GRINBERG in Kirovograd and Zvenigorodka.

David F. Nelson, D.D.S., M.S.
Sacramento, CA 95899-7413
Email: dnelson3@dhs.ca.gov

Genners:
I agree wholeheartedly with Joanne Saltman. Pooling information makes
nothing but good sense. Anyone out there who is focusing on Kirovograd
(Elisavetgrad) and Zvenigorodka? Both these towns are close to Kiev. I
have emailed the Kiev State Archives but so far no response.

Thanks for any help.

Researching GRECHEVSKY/GRUSHEVSKIJ and GRINBERG in Kirovograd and Zvenigorodka.

David F. Nelson, D.D.S., M.S.
Sacramento, CA 95899-7413
Email: dnelson3@dhs.ca.gov

I've only just joined the group and found it to be very well run. I want to
thank Dave and all the other people for all the work they have done to
create and maintain the list that so many of us get great pleasure and help
from, and just say that if there are over 1,700 members and only two have
caused strife, that is a fantastic tribute to how well the list has been
run.

Be proud of what you have accomplished!

The rest of us will have to see how we can contribute time, efforts and
ideas to help the new coordinator keep up the great work.

It might be a good idea to try to recover the good relations with the
archives that might have been damaged by the impatience of one person, by
frankly stating that their actions were individual and inacceptable to the
rest of the members because of the discord created.

Let's all be postive and hope that someone experienced and patient will take
over where Dave left off and as he himself stated, add new ideas.

best regards, Jenni Hymoff
HYMOFF >from Lublin and Minsk, KADETSKY >from Poland, REDLER >from Novo
Podolsk, Ukraine and KRAVETSKY >from Kamenets Litovsk, Ukraine.

I've only just joined the group and found it to be very well run. I want to
thank Dave and all the other people for all the work they have done to
create and maintain the list that so many of us get great pleasure and help
from, and just say that if there are over 1,700 members and only two have
caused strife, that is a fantastic tribute to how well the list has been
run.

Be proud of what you have accomplished!

The rest of us will have to see how we can contribute time, efforts and
ideas to help the new coordinator keep up the great work.

It might be a good idea to try to recover the good relations with the
archives that might have been damaged by the impatience of one person, by
frankly stating that their actions were individual and inacceptable to the
rest of the members because of the discord created.

Let's all be postive and hope that someone experienced and patient will take
over where Dave left off and as he himself stated, add new ideas.

best regards, Jenni Hymoff
HYMOFF >from Lublin and Minsk, KADETSKY >from Poland, REDLER >from Novo
Podolsk, Ukraine and KRAVETSKY >from Kamenets Litovsk, Ukraine.

The Horowitz Families Association is glad to inform that its Spring
excursion, "In the Footsteps of the Horowitz Clan Founders and
Fighters in Upper Galilee" will take place on Monday, 10 Adar Bet
5765, March 21, 2005. Its itinerary is contained in the 22th issue
of our "Yedion" and can be found at our website at
<http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation>;, click on "Yedion 22".

Shlomo Gurevich
The Horowitz Families Association's Board member,
responsible for ties with the family branches in Diaspora
Hoshaya, Israel
mailto:shl2gur@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur

The Horowitz Families Association is glad to inform that its Spring
excursion, "In the Footsteps of the Horowitz Clan Founders and
Fighters in Upper Galilee" will take place on Monday, 10 Adar Bet
5765, March 21, 2005. Its itinerary is contained in the 22th issue
of our "Yedion" and can be found at our website at
<http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation>;, click on "Yedion 22".

Shlomo Gurevich
The Horowitz Families Association's Board member,
responsible for ties with the family branches in Diaspora
Hoshaya, Israel
mailto:shl2gur@yahoo.com
http://www.geocities.com/shl_gur

Dear Group,

Before I proceed with my questions I want to take a moment to give
a very warm thanks to all of you who have responded to my previous
queries; the time you have spend to help with translations and make
suggestions and provide guidance had been phenomenal; very hepful
and incredibly appreciated. In many cases you have been the reasons
that my research has progressed and I am truly greatful.

That having been said I hope the following requests will be of a
much easier caliber.

1) I have a postcard written by my ggg grandfather in which he signs
it "son of the Gaon HaTzaddik SheHaya Av Beis Din Checiny" which
means "son of the Chief Rabinic Judge of Checiny." Is anyone aware
as to how I might be able to trace who this Chief Rabbi might be? He
lived >from the late 1700s to sometime in the 1800s (dates unsure).

2) Is anyone familiar with a book called "Slownik Historii Kielckich
Zydow" writtten by Krzysztof Urbanski and Rafal Blumenfeld? It has
been suggested that I might find some answers in this book and I'm
wondering if anyone might have it in his posession or have a
suggestion as to where to locate it.

3) The matzva of this rabbi's granddaughter reads: Leah bat *shin
shin* R' Israel Icyk grandson of the genius Rabbi *shin shin*
R' Shimon haTzaddek.

Any suggestions as to the meaning of *shin shins*?

Thank you, as always for your time and help.

Best regards,

Linda Silverman Shefler
mailto:linsilv@nc.rr.com

Dear Group,

Before I proceed with my questions I want to take a moment to give
a very warm thanks to all of you who have responded to my previous
queries; the time you have spend to help with translations and make
suggestions and provide guidance had been phenomenal; very hepful
and incredibly appreciated. In many cases you have been the reasons
that my research has progressed and I am truly greatful.

That having been said I hope the following requests will be of a
much easier caliber.

1) I have a postcard written by my ggg grandfather in which he signs
it "son of the Gaon HaTzaddik SheHaya Av Beis Din Checiny" which
means "son of the Chief Rabinic Judge of Checiny." Is anyone aware
as to how I might be able to trace who this Chief Rabbi might be? He
lived >from the late 1700s to sometime in the 1800s (dates unsure).

2) Is anyone familiar with a book called "Slownik Historii Kielckich
Zydow" writtten by Krzysztof Urbanski and Rafal Blumenfeld? It has
been suggested that I might find some answers in this book and I'm
wondering if anyone might have it in his posession or have a
suggestion as to where to locate it.

3) The matzva of this rabbi's granddaughter reads: Leah bat *shin
shin* R' Israel Icyk grandson of the genius Rabbi *shin shin*
R' Shimon haTzaddek.

Any suggestions as to the meaning of *shin shins*?

Thank you, as always for your time and help.

Best regards,

Linda Silverman Shefler
mailto:linsilv@nc.rr.com

3/8/05

Hi all,

I am seeking information about Hershel REICH (birth and death unknown) and
his daughter Rachel REICH (b. 1851-1874 est.) >from Rzeszow, Poland, my
great-great-grandfather and great-grandmother. I imagine they were killed in the
Holocaust. Rachel had another sister, Beila. I am descendent >from the Rachel
REICH line. She married Shmuel Aharon BODNER (b. 1842-1871 est.)

I have just started researching my ancestor's line for my Uncle Seymour
BODNER. He wanted more information on his great-grandfather, Hershel REICH who had
a daughter Rachel REICH (my great-grandmother), and possible son Nathan REICH

from Rzeszow, Poland. Rachel married Shmuel (Samuel) Aharon BODNER and had 8

children, among them, my grandfather, Jacob BODNER. Seymour BODNER is
Jacob's son. Stella BODNER Seiden is Jacob's daughter and my mother.

If you have any information, please respond to me.

Thanks,

Barbara Seiden
sunrisepro@aol.com

3/8/05

Hi all,

I am seeking information about Hershel REICH (birth and death unknown) and
his daughter Rachel REICH (b. 1851-1874 est.) >from Rzeszow, Poland, my
great-great-grandfather and great-grandmother. I imagine they were killed in the
Holocaust. Rachel had another sister, Beila. I am descendent >from the Rachel
REICH line. She married Shmuel Aharon BODNER (b. 1842-1871 est.)

I have just started researching my ancestor's line for my Uncle Seymour
BODNER. He wanted more information on his great-grandfather, Hershel REICH who had
a daughter Rachel REICH (my great-grandmother), and possible son Nathan REICH

from Rzeszow, Poland. Rachel married Shmuel (Samuel) Aharon BODNER and had 8

children, among them, my grandfather, Jacob BODNER. Seymour BODNER is
Jacob's son. Stella BODNER Seiden is Jacob's daughter and my mother.

If you have any information, please respond to me.

Thanks,

Barbara Seiden
sunrisepro@aol.com

Subject: Re: Translation >from Hebrew please
From: "Kris Murawski" <kris.murawski@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:20:52 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

>
> The Gelbfisz Family:
>
> He was very successful in his life , was very wealthy, the "Boursa"
> (Hebrew word; my guess for translation is bursary) in Warsaw was managed
> in his house.
>
"Bursa" in Polish has two meanings: one is a boarding school, the other
means money exchange, stock market. Obviously, in this case, the latter
applies.


Bursa is also used in modern hebrew for the stock exchange/money exchange,
as exemplified by "The Bursa" - The Israeli Stock Exchange building which is
located in Tel Aviv (Petach Tikvah).
Sarah Lasry did a very nice translation. You are lucky to have such a
legibly written history.

Barbara Zilber
Montreal, Canada
researching Inwentarz, Zilbersztejn, Zalcman and Milsztejn





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Subject: Re: Translation >from Hebrew please
From: "Kris Murawski" <kris.murawski@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:20:52 -0500
X-Message-Number: 2

>
> The Gelbfisz Family:
>
> He was very successful in his life , was very wealthy, the "Boursa"
> (Hebrew word; my guess for translation is bursary) in Warsaw was managed
> in his house.
>
"Bursa" in Polish has two meanings: one is a boarding school, the other
means money exchange, stock market. Obviously, in this case, the latter
applies.


Bursa is also used in modern hebrew for the stock exchange/money exchange,
as exemplified by "The Bursa" - The Israeli Stock Exchange building which is
located in Tel Aviv (Petach Tikvah).
Sarah Lasry did a very nice translation. You are lucky to have such a
legibly written history.

Barbara Zilber
Montreal, Canada
researching Inwentarz, Zilbersztejn, Zalcman and Milsztejn





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