From: "Michael and Julie Weigel" <theweigels@erols.com>
"I suspect that my mother is descended >from Portuguese Jews, but I have not
been able to prove it yet. Her maiden name is BAKKER (Baker) and is a Dutch
immigrant. Here grandmothers name was Wietske ROOS and her great grandmother
was Trijntje Cornelis SWART (same as Schwartz meaning black). Her father and
ancestors were >from the Friesian Island of Terschelling. . ."
--
On http://www.genlias.nl, I find a marriage certificate (in Dutch) issued
in Terschelling, 22.12.1887 ( Dutch dates show day-month-year, so this would
be December 22, 1887) for groom Gossen Bakker and bride Wietske Roos. If
your mother's maiden name was Bakker and her mother's name Wietske Roos,
these might be your grandparents.

In Dutch "Black" is spelled "Zwart" so I looked up that spelling as well and
there are several items under both spellings which might be of interest to
you, as well as other references to Wietske Roos. Further defining
information, particularly dates, is necessary to determine which might be
your relatives.

For instance, there is a death certificate for a Heere Zwart, died
02.08.1840, a male, whose mother was Trijntje Zwart. He died in Tappanolie
(Sumatra) at the age of 21, which may indicate a connection to the Dutch
East Indies Company.

Suzan Hamer
Nunspeet, The Netherlands

Researching: HAMER - LERMAN - RODIES - MARSCHALL - SMITH (SCHMIDT) - HASKES

Shalom!

The only information I've been able to find about R' Yitzhak FRANCES
is that 1) he was the author of Pnei Yitzhak, 2) He was the Chief
Rabbi of Larissa and 3) he died in 1740. His family was originally

from Saloniki. Does anybody know more about him or his family?

Thank you!

Claire Sztern, France
mailto:claire.sztern@gmail.com

From: "Michael and Julie Weigel" <theweigels@erols.com>
"I suspect that my mother is descended >from Portuguese Jews, but I have not
been able to prove it yet. Her maiden name is BAKKER (Baker) and is a Dutch
immigrant. Here grandmothers name was Wietske ROOS and her great grandmother
was Trijntje Cornelis SWART (same as Schwartz meaning black). Her father and
ancestors were >from the Friesian Island of Terschelling. . ."
--
On http://www.genlias.nl, I find a marriage certificate (in Dutch) issued
in Terschelling, 22.12.1887 ( Dutch dates show day-month-year, so this would
be December 22, 1887) for groom Gossen Bakker and bride Wietske Roos. If
your mother's maiden name was Bakker and her mother's name Wietske Roos,
these might be your grandparents.

In Dutch "Black" is spelled "Zwart" so I looked up that spelling as well and
there are several items under both spellings which might be of interest to
you, as well as other references to Wietske Roos. Further defining
information, particularly dates, is necessary to determine which might be
your relatives.

For instance, there is a death certificate for a Heere Zwart, died
02.08.1840, a male, whose mother was Trijntje Zwart. He died in Tappanolie
(Sumatra) at the age of 21, which may indicate a connection to the Dutch
East Indies Company.

Suzan Hamer
Nunspeet, The Netherlands

Researching: HAMER - LERMAN - RODIES - MARSCHALL - SMITH (SCHMIDT) - HASKES

Shalom!

The only information I've been able to find about R' Yitzhak FRANCES
is that 1) he was the author of Pnei Yitzhak, 2) He was the Chief
Rabbi of Larissa and 3) he died in 1740. His family was originally

from Saloniki. Does anybody know more about him or his family?

Thank you!

Claire Sztern, France
mailto:claire.sztern@gmail.com

Hi Barbara

You may already have many replies on this. There is a shell of this
type in existence in my family, I think it is in memory of my paternal
great grandmother. I remember asking my mother about it once and was
told it was just a fashion of the time.

Best wishes

Naomi Fellerman


Subject: Memorial Shell
From: The Held Family <held@rogers.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:57:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8

My great great grandfather died in England in 1925. We have a shell
which has been imbossed with his name in both English and Hebrew and the

message "In Loving Memory ...". Does anyone else have such a shell, and

does anyone know if this was an English tradition of that time?

Barbara Held
Toronto, Canada

Hi Barbara

You may already have many replies on this. There is a shell of this
type in existence in my family, I think it is in memory of my paternal
great grandmother. I remember asking my mother about it once and was
told it was just a fashion of the time.

Best wishes

Naomi Fellerman


Subject: Memorial Shell
From: The Held Family <held@rogers.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 08:57:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 8

My great great grandfather died in England in 1925. We have a shell
which has been imbossed with his name in both English and Hebrew and the

message "In Loving Memory ...". Does anyone else have such a shell, and

does anyone know if this was an English tradition of that time?

Barbara Held
Toronto, Canada

To members of Jewish gen:
Our local library recently de-accessioned a book which we picked up. It is
Hebrew, "Agadot Strimetera," by S. Avni. There is a map on the back cover
which shows the shtetl located on the northern border of Romania, not far

from Sighet. We will be happy to send it to whoever asks for it for the cost

of postage.
Ida and Joseph Schwarcz

To members of Jewish gen:
Our local library recently de-accessioned a book which we picked up. It is
Hebrew, "Agadot Strimetera," by S. Avni. There is a map on the back cover
which shows the shtetl located on the northern border of Romania, not far

from Sighet. We will be happy to send it to whoever asks for it for the cost

of postage.
Ida and Joseph Schwarcz

There are now so many utilities on Steve Morse's One-Step website, that
it's hard to notice when he adds something new. But I just discovered a
few that I hadn't seen before, and which look very interesting.

First is a pair of utilities that converts between handwritten Hebrew
and textbook Hebrew. Anybody who's seen handwritten Hebrew realizes
that it's a completely different set of characters bearing very little
resemblance to the same characters when they appear in print. One of
Steve's new utilities lets you type in words using the handwritten
characters and it displays the equivalent printed characters. And
another lets you go the other way -- type in words using printed
characters and it displays the words in handwritten characters.

Another new One-Step feature is a tool that converts any enumeration
district (ED) in the 1930 census into the equivalent ED in the 1940
census. Of course the 1940 census won't be available for another seven
years, but I guess Steve wants us to be ready for it when it arrives.
There initially won't be any name index for the 1940 census, so
searching by address using the ED will be the only way to go. You would
use Steve's existing 1930 ED Finder to obtain the 1930 ED for the
address that you want, and the use this new tool to convert that 1930 ED
to the equivalent 1940 ED. So far his tables cover only the first few
states, but I'm sure that he'll have all the states completed way before
2012.

All of these utilities and more can be found at http://stevemorse.org
which is the One-Step website. If you have any questions about these
utilities, please direct them to Steve and not to me. You will find his
e-mail address on the website.

- Diane Jacobs
New York

Can someone please tell me if a 1946 death certificate >from California might
give the place of birth of the deceased's *father* or *mother*?

Please reply to group.

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago

There are now so many utilities on Steve Morse's One-Step website, that
it's hard to notice when he adds something new. But I just discovered a
few that I hadn't seen before, and which look very interesting.

First is a pair of utilities that converts between handwritten Hebrew
and textbook Hebrew. Anybody who's seen handwritten Hebrew realizes
that it's a completely different set of characters bearing very little
resemblance to the same characters when they appear in print. One of
Steve's new utilities lets you type in words using the handwritten
characters and it displays the equivalent printed characters. And
another lets you go the other way -- type in words using printed
characters and it displays the words in handwritten characters.

Another new One-Step feature is a tool that converts any enumeration
district (ED) in the 1930 census into the equivalent ED in the 1940
census. Of course the 1940 census won't be available for another seven
years, but I guess Steve wants us to be ready for it when it arrives.
There initially won't be any name index for the 1940 census, so
searching by address using the ED will be the only way to go. You would
use Steve's existing 1930 ED Finder to obtain the 1930 ED for the
address that you want, and the use this new tool to convert that 1930 ED
to the equivalent 1940 ED. So far his tables cover only the first few
states, but I'm sure that he'll have all the states completed way before
2012.

All of these utilities and more can be found at http://stevemorse.org
which is the One-Step website. If you have any questions about these
utilities, please direct them to Steve and not to me. You will find his
e-mail address on the website.

- Diane Jacobs
New York

Can someone please tell me if a 1946 death certificate >from California might
give the place of birth of the deceased's *father* or *mother*?

Please reply to group.

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago

Two grandchildren with the surname, Wasserman, arrived in 1907 with their
grandparents named, Polotnik (sic). The last place of residence was
Chatzin, Russia as were their places of birth and the place where their
closest living friend resided. See ViewMate 5632 at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Permutations of the spelling of Chatzin, look-ups in ShtetlSeeker, other
gazetteers, maps and the Internet were devoid of any clues of Chatzin's
current name or location. The only clue is the name of the gubernia that
appears in the 1907 passenger manifest. Not being familiar with gubernias,
I cannot decifer the spelling. Perhaps, someone can recognize the
connection and tell me about where the town might be located and the
current name. Thanks for the help.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC

Two grandchildren with the surname, Wasserman, arrived in 1907 with their
grandparents named, Polotnik (sic). The last place of residence was
Chatzin, Russia as were their places of birth and the place where their
closest living friend resided. See ViewMate 5632 at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

Permutations of the spelling of Chatzin, look-ups in ShtetlSeeker, other
gazetteers, maps and the Internet were devoid of any clues of Chatzin's
current name or location. The only clue is the name of the gubernia that
appears in the 1907 passenger manifest. Not being familiar with gubernias,
I cannot decifer the spelling. Perhaps, someone can recognize the
connection and tell me about where the town might be located and the
current name. Thanks for the help.

Dolph Klein
Chapel Hill, NC

My father found my grandparents paperwork >from Europe, passports,
naturalization certificate, etc.
(I will need to post them for translating too)
Over 80 years old and very fragile.

Any suggestion on what to store than in to preserve them?

Robert A. Dodell
RADodell@Worldnet.att.net

MODERATOR NOTE: This subject has been discussed many times here. You can
probably find the answers you seek in our archives at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop

On 2005.03.03, Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> wrote:

Rav Juda Gershon PIKHOLZ wrote a lengthy eulogy for Rav Eliyahu
HORSHOWSKI, [ABD] of Drohobycz who died in 5644 (1883). Does
anyone have information on how [the PIKHOLZ and HORSHOWSKI]
families might be connected?

Rav Eliyahu HORSHOWSKI, ABD of Drohobycz, was father-in-law of
R. Chaim Aryeh LEIBES, ABD of Yuzefov, whose mother was Reize, a
daughter of R. Eleazar Ha-levi HOROWITZ, ABD of Strezitz and
Zlozitz.

Shlomo Gurevich
mailto:shl2gur@yahoo.com
Hoshaya, Israel
The Horowitz Families Association
http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation

My father found my grandparents paperwork >from Europe, passports,
naturalization certificate, etc.
(I will need to post them for translating too)
Over 80 years old and very fragile.

Any suggestion on what to store than in to preserve them?

Robert A. Dodell
RADodell@Worldnet.att.net

MODERATOR NOTE: This subject has been discussed many times here. You can
probably find the answers you seek in our archives at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop

On 2005.03.03, Israel Pickholtz <IsraelP@pikholz.org> wrote:

Rav Juda Gershon PIKHOLZ wrote a lengthy eulogy for Rav Eliyahu
HORSHOWSKI, [ABD] of Drohobycz who died in 5644 (1883). Does
anyone have information on how [the PIKHOLZ and HORSHOWSKI]
families might be connected?

Rav Eliyahu HORSHOWSKI, ABD of Drohobycz, was father-in-law of
R. Chaim Aryeh LEIBES, ABD of Yuzefov, whose mother was Reize, a
daughter of R. Eleazar Ha-levi HOROWITZ, ABD of Strezitz and
Zlozitz.

Shlomo Gurevich
mailto:shl2gur@yahoo.com
Hoshaya, Israel
The Horowitz Families Association
http://www.geocities.com/horowitzassociation

While searching for the naturalization of Chaim/Hyman INGBER of Brooklyn, I
received a Declaration, Petition, and Oath of Allegiance (1922) for Heiman
INGBAR. The declaration (1916) had his name as INGBAR and stated he was
born in Galicia in 1880 and arrived in NY in October 1905 >from Rotterdam.
At that time, he was living on Suffolk St. in Manhattan. The petition
(1921) had his name as INGBER and stated he was living on Hinsdale Street
in Brooklyn and working as a waiter. His wife was named Rose, and he had
three children born in NY 1907-1915 -- Mollie, Sam, and Frieda. Witnesses
were Aron LEVENTHAL and Annie KONIGSBERG of the Lower East Side. This is
not my relative. If this sounds familiar to anyone, please let me know,
and I will send you the documents.


Nancy Goldberg, Los Angeles
njgoldberg@earthlink.net

I do not recall what happened but can someone tell if the census of
Canada later then 1901 will ever be released? Gayle Riley of San
Gabriel, Ca