HALBERSTADT Family or Families
#rabbinic
sfalk81162@...
I am trying to learn more about a HALBERSTADT family that was in
Lissa (Posen) in the early 19th century, and may have had members in Glogau (Silesia), about 30 km >from Lissa. Among other things, I am interested in learning whether this family is related to the rabbinic family of R. Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz HALBERSTADT (also known as BIALEH) (1670-1748). The starting point is Joel ben Hirsch HALBERSTADT of Lissa. Joel died in Lissa (or was buried in Lissa) in October 1832. He was married to Scheine bat Jacob (d.1826, Lissa). According to the gravestone inscription of their daughter Chaje Sara AUERBACH, geb. HALBERSTADT (d.1855, Ostrowo), her family were Cohanim. (She was the wife of R. Menachem Mannheim AUERBACH (1773-1848).) Joel ben Hirsch HALBERSTADT is mentioned in Louis LEWIN's "Geschichte der Juden in Lissa" - but his profession is not given. Johanna, a daughter of Joel and Scheine, married Joseph LAZARUS of Glogau in 1820. Some time after her husband's death in 1853, Johanna returned to Lissa, where she died in 1868. Among the Glogau records, Roger LUSTIG has found that there was a Wolff (ben) Hirsch HALBERSTADT (b.1772), a contemporary of Joel HALBERSTADT, and possibly a brother of Joel. He adopted the name HALBERSTADT in Glogau in 1791-94 and was still resident there in 1812. But there, the information about Joel and actual or possible parts of his family end. The rabbinic HALBERSTADT family appears to have some connections to Glogau and Lissa. Various parts of the family are described in the Jewish Encyclopedia (1906; online), and the Encyclopedia Judaica (1972), and Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain". The EJ contains an article on Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz BIALEH (aka HALBERSTADT) (1670-1748), born in Lemberg, rabbi and Rosh Yeshiva in Biala, Lemberg and Halberstadt. Zwi Hirsch had 5 sons who were rabbis: R. Solomon Dov Berush in Glogau, R. Naphtali Herz in Dubno (has entry in Jew.Enc. (1906)), R. Abraham in Rawitsch, R. Samuel in Halberstadt, and R. Simchah in Dessau. Zwi Hirsch also had a brother Israel b. Naphtali Herz (d.1744) who lived in Cleves, Offenbach and Hanau. This same rabbinic family is outlined In "The Unbroken Chain", p.558 et seq. and some members are said to have been in Lissa. The question: Can anyone help determine whether Joel (haCohen) HALBERSTADT's father, Hirsch HALBERSTADT, is part of the rabbinic family described above? (Is that rabbinic family Cohanim?) Thank you, Stephen FALK -- Wayne, PA, USA -- sfalk81162@aol.com Researching: R. Jehuda Loew b. Bezalel, MaHaRaL - Prague; R. Mordechai JAFFE, Lewusch - Posen; R. Meir POSENER (MUNK), Beit Meir - Lissa, Danzig; R. Zwi Hirsch KALISCHER, Drischat Zion - Lissa, Thorn; R. Jacob Jehuda Loebel FALK, Dyhrenfurther Rav - Lissa, Dyhernfurth, Breslau; R. Moses Aron BACH - Hohensalza, Schildberg, Mieschkow, Breslau; R. Jehoshua (Joshua) Falk (aka NEUMOEGEN, aka VALENTIN), Binjan Jehoshua - Lissa, Breslau
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic HALBERSTADT Family or Families
#rabbinic
sfalk81162@...
I am trying to learn more about a HALBERSTADT family that was in
Lissa (Posen) in the early 19th century, and may have had members in Glogau (Silesia), about 30 km >from Lissa. Among other things, I am interested in learning whether this family is related to the rabbinic family of R. Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz HALBERSTADT (also known as BIALEH) (1670-1748). The starting point is Joel ben Hirsch HALBERSTADT of Lissa. Joel died in Lissa (or was buried in Lissa) in October 1832. He was married to Scheine bat Jacob (d.1826, Lissa). According to the gravestone inscription of their daughter Chaje Sara AUERBACH, geb. HALBERSTADT (d.1855, Ostrowo), her family were Cohanim. (She was the wife of R. Menachem Mannheim AUERBACH (1773-1848).) Joel ben Hirsch HALBERSTADT is mentioned in Louis LEWIN's "Geschichte der Juden in Lissa" - but his profession is not given. Johanna, a daughter of Joel and Scheine, married Joseph LAZARUS of Glogau in 1820. Some time after her husband's death in 1853, Johanna returned to Lissa, where she died in 1868. Among the Glogau records, Roger LUSTIG has found that there was a Wolff (ben) Hirsch HALBERSTADT (b.1772), a contemporary of Joel HALBERSTADT, and possibly a brother of Joel. He adopted the name HALBERSTADT in Glogau in 1791-94 and was still resident there in 1812. But there, the information about Joel and actual or possible parts of his family end. The rabbinic HALBERSTADT family appears to have some connections to Glogau and Lissa. Various parts of the family are described in the Jewish Encyclopedia (1906; online), and the Encyclopedia Judaica (1972), and Neil Rosenstein's "The Unbroken Chain". The EJ contains an article on Zwi Hirsch ben Naphtali Herz BIALEH (aka HALBERSTADT) (1670-1748), born in Lemberg, rabbi and Rosh Yeshiva in Biala, Lemberg and Halberstadt. Zwi Hirsch had 5 sons who were rabbis: R. Solomon Dov Berush in Glogau, R. Naphtali Herz in Dubno (has entry in Jew.Enc. (1906)), R. Abraham in Rawitsch, R. Samuel in Halberstadt, and R. Simchah in Dessau. Zwi Hirsch also had a brother Israel b. Naphtali Herz (d.1744) who lived in Cleves, Offenbach and Hanau. This same rabbinic family is outlined In "The Unbroken Chain", p.558 et seq. and some members are said to have been in Lissa. The question: Can anyone help determine whether Joel (haCohen) HALBERSTADT's father, Hirsch HALBERSTADT, is part of the rabbinic family described above? (Is that rabbinic family Cohanim?) Thank you, Stephen FALK -- Wayne, PA, USA -- sfalk81162@aol.com Researching: R. Jehuda Loew b. Bezalel, MaHaRaL - Prague; R. Mordechai JAFFE, Lewusch - Posen; R. Meir POSENER (MUNK), Beit Meir - Lissa, Danzig; R. Zwi Hirsch KALISCHER, Drischat Zion - Lissa, Thorn; R. Jacob Jehuda Loebel FALK, Dyhrenfurther Rav - Lissa, Dyhernfurth, Breslau; R. Moses Aron BACH - Hohensalza, Schildberg, Mieschkow, Breslau; R. Jehoshua (Joshua) Falk (aka NEUMOEGEN, aka VALENTIN), Binjan Jehoshua - Lissa, Breslau
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Abraham Lincoln: Secret Jew?
#general
HeyJudy123@...
The New York Post, one of New York City's leading daily newspapers,
this week printed a theory that Abraham Lincoln may have been a secret Jew, or descended >from Jews. (The columnist offering the information admitted that this theory is unsubstantiated.) Has any Genner heard a similar rumor (or "bubbemeiser") in his or her own family? Judy Segal New York City
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Abraham Lincoln: Secret Jew?
#general
HeyJudy123@...
The New York Post, one of New York City's leading daily newspapers,
this week printed a theory that Abraham Lincoln may have been a secret Jew, or descended >from Jews. (The columnist offering the information admitted that this theory is unsubstantiated.) Has any Genner heard a similar rumor (or "bubbemeiser") in his or her own family? Judy Segal New York City
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Viewmate 5657 - Russian
#general
Jean Block <jbretired@...>
Viewmate 5657 is a document in Russian which I would love to have
translated. My aunt doesn't know what it is, but it was hanging on her wall. The family names are Voscoboinic and Wolfman. Thanks. Jean Block, Columbus OH
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate 5657 - Russian
#general
Jean Block <jbretired@...>
Viewmate 5657 is a document in Russian which I would love to have
translated. My aunt doesn't know what it is, but it was hanging on her wall. The family names are Voscoboinic and Wolfman. Thanks. Jean Block, Columbus OH
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Re: Ancestry 1880 census-ABRAMOWITZ families
#general
Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
Ben,
I have found many people I was looking for before ancestry.com had the 1880 US Census by going to the Mormon Family History site as follws: http://www.familysearch.org Here you can find the section for censuses as they have the l880 US And the l881 UK Census. It is easy to use and you can see the actual Images. Diane Jacobs New York Following up on Joan Parker's notice of the free accesibility to the 1880 census I put in my ABRAMOWITZ name >from Connecticut. I got all excited when Anestry wrote that there were 100 ABRAMOWITZ families who came to the (USA or CT. ?) >from Liverpool which is where my gggrandmother came through and I even started reviewing the list they had on their website and *&*&^%^** some thing happened to the computer (I presume mine since I've been having problems with it) and it "froze". When I restarted the computer and got into the site including the 1880 census and redid all the previous steps I couldn't, the site wouldn't return me to the list of ABRAMOWITZs who came to the states via Liverpool. My request of this group is: Does anyone know of anyway I could get back to that list that was on Ancestry? Does anyone know of any other sources that I can get to ABRAMOWITZs who came to the states >from Liverpool during the latter half of the 19th cent. Thanks In Advance Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Ancestry 1880 census-ABRAMOWITZ families
#general
Diane Jacobs <kingart@...>
Ben,
I have found many people I was looking for before ancestry.com had the 1880 US Census by going to the Mormon Family History site as follws: http://www.familysearch.org Here you can find the section for censuses as they have the l880 US And the l881 UK Census. It is easy to use and you can see the actual Images. Diane Jacobs New York Following up on Joan Parker's notice of the free accesibility to the 1880 census I put in my ABRAMOWITZ name >from Connecticut. I got all excited when Anestry wrote that there were 100 ABRAMOWITZ families who came to the (USA or CT. ?) >from Liverpool which is where my gggrandmother came through and I even started reviewing the list they had on their website and *&*&^%^** some thing happened to the computer (I presume mine since I've been having problems with it) and it "froze". When I restarted the computer and got into the site including the 1880 census and redid all the previous steps I couldn't, the site wouldn't return me to the list of ABRAMOWITZs who came to the states via Liverpool. My request of this group is: Does anyone know of anyway I could get back to that list that was on Ancestry? Does anyone know of any other sources that I can get to ABRAMOWITZs who came to the states >from Liverpool during the latter half of the 19th cent. Thanks In Advance Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel
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Meaning of SCHRANZ
#general
Rachel Michelson <rachel_michelson_15@...>
I am trying to research a previous family name. the
name is Schranz, I just want to know what the name means, and any other information that anyone has about it. I would be grateful for any information that anyone can give me. Thanks very much Rachel MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to register your research interests with the Jewishgen Family Finder, and also to take a look at the various InfoFiles: http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Meaning of SCHRANZ
#general
Rachel Michelson <rachel_michelson_15@...>
I am trying to research a previous family name. the
name is Schranz, I just want to know what the name means, and any other information that anyone has about it. I would be grateful for any information that anyone can give me. Thanks very much Rachel MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to register your research interests with the Jewishgen Family Finder, and also to take a look at the various InfoFiles: http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/
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Re: Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia
#ukraine
Olga G. Parker <ogparker@...>
I would be interested in a "Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia" group. My
interests are in the Ovruch area and the small towns surrounding that town, and Radomysl' and the area around it. GLOSMAN (and variations) and PALEI (PALLAY/PALEY) are among my names of interest. WARSHAVSKY is another name, and I think they came >from Radomysl' and Zhitomir. My paternal grandparents came to this country in 1903 (grandfather) and 1905 (grandmother and 2 children), 1909 (an uncle and one of my gm's sisters). So my interests are all pre-World War II. Olga G. Parker/SD ogparker@rushmore.com . . . Moshe Davis
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FW: Gdansk/Danzig question
#ukraine
Terri <terrib@...>
Hello, I have a relative who died in Danzig/Gdansk around 1926-1935. Can
someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be located with Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc. Thanks, Tom Erribe
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia
#ukraine
Olga G. Parker <ogparker@...>
I would be interested in a "Birds of a Feather - Kiev Gubernia" group. My
interests are in the Ovruch area and the small towns surrounding that town, and Radomysl' and the area around it. GLOSMAN (and variations) and PALEI (PALLAY/PALEY) are among my names of interest. WARSHAVSKY is another name, and I think they came >from Radomysl' and Zhitomir. My paternal grandparents came to this country in 1903 (grandfather) and 1905 (grandmother and 2 children), 1909 (an uncle and one of my gm's sisters). So my interests are all pre-World War II. Olga G. Parker/SD ogparker@rushmore.com . . . Moshe Davis
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine FW: Gdansk/Danzig question
#ukraine
Terri <terrib@...>
Hello, I have a relative who died in Danzig/Gdansk around 1926-1935. Can
someone tell me if Danzig/Gdansk records for 1926-1935 would be located with Polish records, Ukrainian records, German records, etc. Thanks, Tom Erribe
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Philadelphia guidance
#general
Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
Could one of you Philadelphia experts help me with this? I'm looking for an
Arnold B. Rosenthal in Philadelphia or his daughter Cydney. Arnold's parents were Simon (Sam) born 1892 and Beatrice Rosenthal >from Pittsburgh. I will be happy to share more information with you about Arnold's parents if you feel that would be useful. Please reply privately. Thanks in advance for your assistance. Marilyn Feingold MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova) PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Odessa TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Philadelphia guidance
#general
Marilyn F <mrl516@...>
Could one of you Philadelphia experts help me with this? I'm looking for an
Arnold B. Rosenthal in Philadelphia or his daughter Cydney. Arnold's parents were Simon (Sam) born 1892 and Beatrice Rosenthal >from Pittsburgh. I will be happy to share more information with you about Arnold's parents if you feel that would be useful. Please reply privately. Thanks in advance for your assistance. Marilyn Feingold MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova) PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Odessa TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)
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I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis
#general
When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge. I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was? Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis
#general
When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge. I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was? Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/
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Re: PRONIN and INDUCH/YENDICK
#belarus
Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
Arthur PRONIN of Houston TX asks about PRONIN.
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This is a Mogilev name, also found in nearby Chaussy. A few years ago, I did a story on the Oleg and Svetlana PRONIN family, immigrants >from Mogilev (about a decade ago), who live in Beersheva. They are related to the YENDICK/INDUCH family in suburban Detroit. The story about the YENDICK (in America)/INDUCH (original name in Belarus) name is that the family name refers to the blue dye (indigo), and that "a long time ago," the family was in this business in Amsterdam and other places in Europe. This story was directly >from Oleg, who was told by his father and grandfather. For information on the PRONIN name, see information below >from another PRONIN researcher. There is also a GINSBURG (my own cousins, also >from Mogilev) connection in Sioux City, Iowa. Arthur, do you know your great-grandfather's name or any of his siblings? There are at least two other PRONIN researchers. I have their emails if they are not listed in the JewishGen Family Finder. Helaine Baldwin in New York is a PRONIN researcher, through Isadore (Itchke) PRONIN. Oleg's family in Beersheva descends through Ita, daughter of Shmuel David Moisevich INDUCH/YENDICK/INDYK, who married Yona Shmuelevich PRONIN, Oleg's parents. Davida Gersten Loewenstein of Lincoln, MA, is another PRONIN descendant. Her grandmother, >from Mogilev, was Rachel bat Avrum PRONIN GERSTEN, she had 11 siblings. Davida wrote to me that she had been told that the name PRONIN came >from a nearby river of the same name. The name Yona is common in her family, and was also the name of Oleg's father, his grandfather was Shmuel. In case others on our Belarus list are searching these families, this is how Oleg PRONIN is related to the INDUCH/YENDICK/GINSBURG/PINSKER/SELBY etc. families. 1--David ? INDUCH 2--Moshe Davidovich INDUCH +Rasha (Rachel) GINSBURG (Mogilev family, related to TALALAY) 3--Zlate Peshe INDUCH (--> Detroit) +Samuel PINSKER 4-- three daughters +Morris SELBY 3--Shmuel David Moisevich INDUCH + Gruneh (maiden name unknown) 4-- Ita Shmuelovna INDUCH + Yona Shmuelovich PRONIN 5-- Oleg PRONIN (>from Mogilev --> Beersheva) + Svetlana 6--Irina/Ira PRONIN 4--Eli Moshe INDUCH - died WWII 4--Aleksander/Sasha INDUCH - died WWII 4--Nina INDUCH 4--Chava INDUCH 4--Lyuba Dvosha INDUCH 3-- Joseph YENDICK (--> Detroit) Schelly Talalay Dardashti Tel Aviv President, JFRA Israel schelly@allrelative.net
Subject: PRONIN name means what?
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: PRONIN and INDUCH/YENDICK
#belarus
Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
Arthur PRONIN of Houston TX asks about PRONIN.
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This is a Mogilev name, also found in nearby Chaussy. A few years ago, I did a story on the Oleg and Svetlana PRONIN family, immigrants >from Mogilev (about a decade ago), who live in Beersheva. They are related to the YENDICK/INDUCH family in suburban Detroit. The story about the YENDICK (in America)/INDUCH (original name in Belarus) name is that the family name refers to the blue dye (indigo), and that "a long time ago," the family was in this business in Amsterdam and other places in Europe. This story was directly >from Oleg, who was told by his father and grandfather. For information on the PRONIN name, see information below >from another PRONIN researcher. There is also a GINSBURG (my own cousins, also >from Mogilev) connection in Sioux City, Iowa. Arthur, do you know your great-grandfather's name or any of his siblings? There are at least two other PRONIN researchers. I have their emails if they are not listed in the JewishGen Family Finder. Helaine Baldwin in New York is a PRONIN researcher, through Isadore (Itchke) PRONIN. Oleg's family in Beersheva descends through Ita, daughter of Shmuel David Moisevich INDUCH/YENDICK/INDYK, who married Yona Shmuelevich PRONIN, Oleg's parents. Davida Gersten Loewenstein of Lincoln, MA, is another PRONIN descendant. Her grandmother, >from Mogilev, was Rachel bat Avrum PRONIN GERSTEN, she had 11 siblings. Davida wrote to me that she had been told that the name PRONIN came >from a nearby river of the same name. The name Yona is common in her family, and was also the name of Oleg's father, his grandfather was Shmuel. In case others on our Belarus list are searching these families, this is how Oleg PRONIN is related to the INDUCH/YENDICK/GINSBURG/PINSKER/SELBY etc. families. 1--David ? INDUCH 2--Moshe Davidovich INDUCH +Rasha (Rachel) GINSBURG (Mogilev family, related to TALALAY) 3--Zlate Peshe INDUCH (--> Detroit) +Samuel PINSKER 4-- three daughters +Morris SELBY 3--Shmuel David Moisevich INDUCH + Gruneh (maiden name unknown) 4-- Ita Shmuelovna INDUCH + Yona Shmuelovich PRONIN 5-- Oleg PRONIN (>from Mogilev --> Beersheva) + Svetlana 6--Irina/Ira PRONIN 4--Eli Moshe INDUCH - died WWII 4--Aleksander/Sasha INDUCH - died WWII 4--Nina INDUCH 4--Chava INDUCH 4--Lyuba Dvosha INDUCH 3-- Joseph YENDICK (--> Detroit) Schelly Talalay Dardashti Tel Aviv President, JFRA Israel schelly@allrelative.net
Subject: PRONIN name means what?
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