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Re: Descendants of Yosef Meir Weiss the "Imrei Yosef"
#romania
Peninah Zilberman
Shalom Sarah,
Indeed “Spinka Rebbe” , from Marmaures has a large Dynasty in Bnei Brak, a religious suburb of TLV, Israel. I just checked on Google, there are some sources which can help you to reach the people you are looking for Good Luck Peninah Zilberman
Peninah Zilberman JEWISH FAMILY ROOTS JOURNEYS Canada 1-416-781-0330 Israel 972-54-228-8141
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Re: Tombstone translation
#translation
Mike Coleman
For the avoidance of doubt, should such be needed by any reader, my posting of the tweaked image is simply as an aid for a third party attempting a translation.
Mike Coleman, U.K.
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Re: Sephardic SIG Are Tsentsiper/Zenziper/Sensibar out of Belarus of Sephardic ancestry?
#sephardic
Kevin Brook
As I told Joshua via private email when he asked me the same question in August 2019, the Ashkenazic surname Zenziper/Tsentsiper isn't considered Sephardic by any of the name experts such as Alexander Beider. I am sure it isn't. It was almost certainly first assigned to Jews in the early 19th century.
Legitimate Sephardic surnames in Ashkenazic communities include Algazi, Alfasi, Kastel, and Abarbanel. Kevin Alan Brook
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Re: DNA Testing on Karaites
#dna
Kevin Brook
My East European Karaite DNA study's results have been published in a peer-reviewed journal:
"The Genetics of Crimean Karaites" by Kevin Alan Brook in Karadeniz Araştırmaları (Journal of Black Sea Studies), No. 42 (Summer 2014): pages 69-84 http://www.karam.org.tr/DergiPdfDetay.aspx?ID=859 I also presented a summary of these results on pages 213-215 of my peer-reviewed book "The Jews of Khazaria, Third Edition" (Rowman and Littlefield Publishers, 2018). Kevin Alan Brook
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Re: Origin of Latvian Jews
#latvia
Kevin Brook
I have two pieces of good evidence for this.
1. A member of the Sephardic-turned-Ashkenazic family Abugov (the Russified form of Abohab) studied in Dvinsk, a city which is now in Latvia under the name Daugavpils. 2. Autosomal DNA matching established Sephardic links to an Ashkenazic family from Rēzekne, another Latvian city, as I wrote in my article "Sephardic Jews in Lithuania and Latvia" in the August 2016 issue of ZichronNote, Journal of the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society, after I received written permission from the living named participant: "Judith Simon, a co-administrator of the two Iberian Ashkenaz projects at Family Tree DNA, grew up fascinated by the oral history related by her culturally Ashkenazic maternal grandfather, Shaya Brozgol (who changed his name to Sam Gold), that his ancestors on his father’s side included Sephardic Conversos who left Spain during the Inquisition. Brozgol was born in 1892 in Re_zekne, a city in eastern Latvia where his ancestors had also lived during the 1700s and 1800s, and married another Ashkenazic Jew from there. The family’s story of Sephardic heritage led some of Shaya’s cousins to move to Spain." "Judith and several members of her family had their autosomal DNA tested, and two male paternal descendants of her Brozgol line had their Y chromosomal DNA tested. Family Tree DNA and GEDmatch provided matches that confirm the story. Judith, her brother, and her maternal aunt Pearl Freed share a triangulating identical-by-descent autosomal segment with seven Latin American Hispanics, and Pearl has several additional segments that match multiple Hispanics including Mexican-Americans with deep roots in northeastern Mexico and a Puerto Rican." "The Brozgol Y-DNA lineage is also suggestive of Sephardic ancestry since not only does one of their closest matches (Belarusian Jewish) have an oral history that their paternal line came from the Ottoman Empire, but they also match Hispanics from Mexico and Texas whose most distantly known paternal-line ancestors centuries ago had Spanish first and last names. However, estimates vary widely on when the common Y-DNA ancestors of the Brozgol men and the Hispanics lived, making the autosomal results more definitive." The total amount of Sephardic DNA in Litvaks is small - often no more than the average Mexican Catholic has - but finding them matching each other autosomally is powerful evidence supporting the genetic study Jan Meisels Allen posted to this group on 1/14/2019 in her message titled "(Latin America) Genetic Study of Latin Americans Reveals History of Converso Migration" that included some Mexican samples. Kevin Alan Brook
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Re: Cape Verde Jewish roots?
#dna
#sephardic
Kevin Brook
DNA ethnicity estimates are not the only, or the most accurate, way to determine this answer because they can give false positives as well as false negatives. MyHeritage DNA's and Family Tree DNA's Sephardic Jewish categories are not foolproof, particularly the former.
It's more significant to find autosomal DNA cousin matches who are Jewish (either Sephardic or Ashkenazic), but don't automatically trust that those matches are real because short segments need verification. Extensive rounds of triangulation among 6 or more matches and two-sided parent-child phasing using GEDmatch's tools helps to distinguish real matches from identical-by-chance matches. Merely matching one or two Jews randomly isn't enough; you would have to establish a pattern where a cluster of them match on the same chromosome across the same start and end positions and that they also match each other in the same location. I also recommend ignoring matches that fall entirely within Excess IBD Regions because those are notorious for false matches. Y-chromosomal testing is far less likely to yield Jewish matches for the average descendant of Sephardic Conversos, compared to autosomal DNA tests. I have not yet seen a Cape Verdean match to a Sephardic DNA segment but indications are that it would be possible based on what we know about the island's migrational history. I have confirmed the existence of Sephardic DNA segments in mainland Portuguese Catholics, Azorean Portuguese (from the Azores Islands), and Brazilian Catholics. Kevin Alan Brook
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Re: December 2020 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert
#general
#jgs-iajgs
#records
For anyone NOT subscribed to this, i just want to say you're missing out on some fabulous information! Thanks, Jan, for the work you do in these.
Margie Geiser Arizona, USA LEVINE/LEWIN, SILBERNAGEL/ZYLBERNAGEL/SILVER, EPSTEJN/EPSTEIN, MOCZYDLOWER/MOCHEDLOVER, ERLICH, GRUNPELTZ, JOSKOWICZ, ZYLBERSZTEJN, SZTABINSKA, WILK
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Re: United Hebrew Cemetery St. Louis, MO
#usa
#names
#photographs
Michael Hoffman
Hi Debbie,
Contact the St Louis Genealogical Society which has a Jewish SIG see https://stlgs.org/ access the communities section for Jewish. also see the following https://stlgs.org/research-2/congregations/jewish ask them if they could visit the grave and take a digital photograph for you. Michael Hoffman Borehamwood HERTS UK
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Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please
#unitedkingdom
mandy.molava@...
I belong to 'Find a grave' website, it's worth joining in my opinion. You can put out a request for a headstone photo and it also works by someone who has joined Find a grave to pop along to their local to have a look for you and take a pic if they find it, or if they happen to be there anyway visiting the graves of their loved ones.
Hope this helps? Mandy Molava Researching Belarus, Brest, Hungary, Galacia
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Re: How many "first names" did people have?
#names
Adam Cherson
This may not apply to your fact pattern, but I have sometimes seen the patronymic style of naming, A ben B, turned into the name A B. In other words the father's given name becomes the surname of the son. In this instance, perhaps Yeruchim is Yeruchim Elkhanan (or just Chanan) ben Tsvi Girsh, which then becomes Yeruchim Tsvi or Yeruchim GIrsh on various records, while to his family he remains known as Chona.
-- Adam Cherson
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Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please
#unitedkingdom
There are a few photos of headstones in the Fawcett Road Cemetery in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England. The cemetery is actually in Southsea which is adjacent to Portsmouth but the community was one.
If you go to the following website it might help. www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2620771/old-jewish-cemetery/photo0771/ Best regards for 2021 Martyn Woolf
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mandy.molava@...
I have some old family photos - coloured - one oil painting with a Chinese outfit on and a photo that appears caricature type. I just wondered if anyone knew of these? What year? One of mine will have been for sure before 1912. I have just got a smart match from Israel with some of the same style photos on, but were these type of photos around everywhere?
Thanks in advance Mandy Molava Researching Belarus, Brest, Galacia, Hungary
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Re: Vinitsky/Winitsky from Detroit, Mich.
#usa
bobbymax911@...
Re VINITSKY/WINITSKY. Do you have any first names, or where they were from?
We have traced VITENSKY/WITENSKY that arrived in England and the U.S.at the beginning of the 20th century. Maxine Goldsmith San Diego
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December 2020 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert
#general
#jgs-iajgs
#records
Jan Meisels Allen
As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records Access Alert topics from the previous month for you to see the variety of issues…some were posted on this discussion group but most were not— all postings are included below. all postings are included below. All postings are included below. The following are the summaries for the month of December, 2020. In order not to miss out on important information it is worthwhile for you to be subscribed to the Records Access Alert. Without records, genealogists cannot do genealogy –making certain that we retain access and gain access where it is impaired is every genealogists' responsibility.
The IAJGS Board of Directors approved opening the Records Access Alert to anyone who is interested in records access. This was announced previously. We now have subscribers from many genealogical organizations not previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts to receive the information in a timely manner. If you are interested in any of the above items, please register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look at them in the archives. To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter your email address, full name and which genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG or a subscriber of JewishGen, Avotaynu, Legal Genealogist etc. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to, or the subscription will not be finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/
The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and other times there may be several in one day.
These are listed alphabetically not chronologically. Each month the locales covered differ.
Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Shel
Also note that Russia encouraged not only ethnic Germans to establish colonies in Russia (Ukraine), but also Jews were allowed to do the same. See previous JGen Discussion List messages by Mel Comisarow.
Shel BERCOVICH Searching: LIPKIND, BERCOVICI, ECHTER, TSVANG (ZWANG) GERBIL
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Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please
#unitedkingdom
Sally Bruckheimer
"who is buried in the Portsmouth Jewish Cemetery". Portsmouth, England; a US Portsmouth; or maybe an Australian one?
Even London has this problem, as I always think first of London, Ontario, then realize that probably isn't it.
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ
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Sally Bruckheimer
"My other question is about the American rendering of the initial Узд as Usd rather than Uzd. I have come across at least three Usdansky lines in the United States"
Us- is less 'foreign' than Uz- in America, so it doesn't actually matter. My second rule of genealogy, when I taught it, was "spelling doesn't count" Clerks in the US and Poland / Russia and elsewhere spelled what they heard. My grandmother's birth record in NYC says her mother's maiden name was Livingston - it was Löwenstein, but say it with a German accent and listen with an English ear, and that explains it. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ
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Announcing the publication of the translation of the Yizkor Book: Devenishki Book: Memorial for a Village
#yizkorbooks
Joel Alpert
The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project of JewishGen is proud to announce
the publication of its105th title, Devenishki Book: Memorial for a Village Translation of Sefer Divenishok; yad vashem le-ayara yehudit (Dieveniskes, Lithuania) Translation of Sefer Divenishok; yad vashem le-ayara yehudit Original Yizkor Book Published by Divenishok Societies of Israel and the United States: 1977 Israel Original Yizkor Book Editor: David Shtokfish Translation Coordinator and Editor: Adam Cherson Translation Layout, Cover Design, and Indexing: Adam Cherson Hard Cover, 11” by 8.5”, 660 pages with all original illustrations and photographs List Price: $65.95, available from JewishGen for $37 To order go to the bottom of: https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Dieveniskes.html and click on the blue JewishGen to go to the order form. Details: Around 1650, Jews fleeing Podolian and Ukrainian pogroms began populating the Vilna area, including Divenishok. After the Russian Empire assumed control of the region in 1795, Jews were prohibited from living in small villages, forcing more Jews to move into Divenishok. By the time the Germans arrived in 1941, there were about 1,200 Jews living in the town, but by mid-1942, after a presence of 300 years, the Jews of Divenishok were gone, many having been murdered in mass graves or gas chambers. How did this happen? One descendant of the town explains things this way: …we must attempt to explain and answer the question plaguing every Jew who was not in the valley of death; “How was an entire nation led as lambs to the slaughter? ” Well, it must be said once and for all in a loud voice to our brethren, the People of Zion, and the Sons of Ishmael should hear and listen: our loved ones did not go as lambs to slaughter! The heroic acts by individuals, uprisings in the ghettos and death camps, the thousands of Jewish partisans who served the resistance movement across occupied Europe, 1.5 million volunteers, soldiers and officers on all fronts serving the Allied Forces are the answer to the big and terrible lie! Our nation had a significant role in ending the Third Reich. We have sinned an unforgivable sin against ourselves by overemphasizing the events of the Holocaust over the bravery in WWII. (MY Itskovitsh, p. 207) This Divenishok Memorial Book is a passionately written multi-author testament to the courage and suffering of a people out-numbered, out-gunned, and out-supplied, who put up a fierce fight, and continued fighting until eventually finding homes in Israel, the Americas, South Africa, and Australia. Nearby Jewish Communities: Byenyakoni, Belarus 11 miles WNW Salcininkai 12 miles NW Voranava, Belarus 12 miles WSW Traby, Belarus 13 miles ESE Lipnishki, Belarus 14 miles S Halshany, Belarus 17 miles ENE Iwye, Belarus 19 miles SSE Ashmyany, Belarus 20 miles NE Laibiskes 20 miles N Jasiunai 21 miles NW Gav'ya, Belarus 24 miles S Eisiskes 25 miles W Vishneva, Belarus 25 miles E Lida, Belarus 25 miles SSW Zhuprany, Belarus 26 miles NE Radun, Belarus 27 miles WSW Krevo, Belarus 28 miles ENE Rudamina 29 miles NNW Bakshty, Belarus 29 miles SE Packed with history; this book opens a unique window to life in this shtetl. A must-read! Certainly a welcome gift to the relative who would appreciate this unique history of their shtetl. A perfect Purim gift for family. Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project
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JGS of Greater Orlando. Free Virtual Meeting. Finding your Eastern European Jewish Family on JRI-Poland.org. Tuesday, January 12 at 7:00 p.m. ET. Speaker: Robinn Magid.
#announcements
dmjacobs@...
ZOOM MEETING Finding your Eastern European Jewish Family on JRI-Poland.org Speaker: Robinn Magid
Robinn Magid is the Assistant Director of JRI-Poland.org and a recent recipient of the IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award. She recently became the project manager of the JRI-Poland “NextGen Project” to redesign the JRI-Poland website, search engine and database. She a frequent speaker and writer on Jewish genealogy topics.
Registration is required for this meeting. Send an email to jgsgo.blogger@.... You will receive an acknowledgement of registration. A link to access the Zoom meeting will be sent to you a few days before the meeting. --Diane M. Jacobs Winter Park, Florida
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mvayser@...
Maryellen
"Germans from Russia" are ethnic Germans, not Jewish. The Latvia theory, suggested by some in this thread, is the likely scenario. Königsberg should not be considered here, as it was never part of the Russian empire. They held it for only a couple of years in mid-1700's, before turning it back to Prussia. It became part of the Soviet Union only after WWII with all ethnic Germans deported and people from Soviet the Union were moved there to repopulate the city (possibly only ethnic Russians). Mike Vayser
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