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Re: Descendants of Yosef Meir Weiss the "Imrei Yosef" #romania

Peninah Zilberman
 

Shalom Sarah,

 

Indeed “Spinka Rebbe” , from Marmaures has a large Dynasty in Bnei Brak, a religious suburb of TLV, Israel.

I just checked on Google, there are some sources which can help you to reach the people you are looking for

Good Luck

Peninah Zilberman

 

Peninah Zilberman

JEWISH FAMILY ROOTS JOURNEYS

www.ftsighet.com

Canada 1-416-781-0330

Israel 972-54-228-8141

 

 

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Re: Tombstone translation #translation

Mike Coleman
 

For the avoidance of doubt, should such be needed by any reader, my posting of the tweaked image is simply as an aid for a third party attempting a translation.

Mike Coleman, U.K.


Re: Sephardic SIG Are Tsentsiper/Zenziper/Sensibar out of Belarus of Sephardic ancestry? #sephardic

Kevin Brook
 

As I told Joshua via private email when he asked me the same question in August 2019, the Ashkenazic surname Zenziper/Tsentsiper isn't considered Sephardic by any of the name experts such as Alexander Beider. I am sure it isn't. It was almost certainly first assigned to Jews in the early 19th century.

Legitimate Sephardic surnames in Ashkenazic communities include Algazi, Alfasi, Kastel, and Abarbanel.

Kevin Alan Brook


Re: DNA Testing on Karaites #dna

Kevin Brook
 

My East European Karaite DNA study's results have been published in a peer-reviewed journal:

"The Genetics of Crimean Karaites" by Kevin Alan Brook
in Karadeniz Araştırmaları (Journal of Black Sea Studies), No. 42 (Summer 2014): pages 69-84
http://www.karam.org.tr/DergiPdfDetay.aspx?ID=859

I also presented a summary of these results on pages 213-215 of my peer-reviewed book "The Jews of Khazaria, Third Edition" (Rowman and Littlefield Publishers, 2018).

Kevin Alan Brook


Re: Origin of Latvian Jews #latvia

Kevin Brook
 

I have two pieces of good evidence for this.

1. A member of the Sephardic-turned-Ashkenazic family Abugov (the Russified form of Abohab) studied in Dvinsk, a city which is now in Latvia under the name Daugavpils.

2. Autosomal DNA matching established Sephardic links to an Ashkenazic family from Rēzekne, another Latvian city, as I wrote in my article "Sephardic Jews in Lithuania and Latvia" in the August 2016 issue of ZichronNote, Journal of the San Francisco Bay Area Jewish Genealogical Society, after I received written permission from the living named participant:

"Judith Simon, a co-administrator of the two Iberian Ashkenaz projects at Family Tree DNA, grew up fascinated by the oral history related by her culturally Ashkenazic maternal grandfather, Shaya Brozgol (who changed his name to Sam Gold), that his ancestors on his father’s side included Sephardic Conversos who left Spain during the Inquisition. Brozgol was born in 1892 in Re_zekne, a city in eastern Latvia where his ancestors had also lived during the 1700s and 1800s, and married another Ashkenazic Jew from there. The family’s story of Sephardic heritage led some of Shaya’s cousins to move to Spain."

"Judith and several members of her family had their autosomal DNA tested, and two male paternal descendants of her Brozgol line had their Y chromosomal DNA tested. Family Tree DNA and GEDmatch provided matches that confirm the story. Judith, her brother, and her maternal aunt Pearl Freed share a triangulating identical-by-descent autosomal segment with seven Latin American Hispanics, and Pearl has several additional segments that match multiple Hispanics including Mexican-Americans with deep roots in northeastern Mexico and a Puerto Rican."

"The Brozgol Y-DNA lineage is also suggestive of Sephardic ancestry since not only does one of their closest matches (Belarusian Jewish) have an oral history that their paternal line came from the Ottoman Empire, but they also match Hispanics from Mexico and Texas whose most distantly known paternal-line ancestors centuries ago had Spanish first and last names. However, estimates vary widely on when the common Y-DNA ancestors of the Brozgol men and the Hispanics lived, making the autosomal results more definitive."

The total amount of Sephardic DNA in Litvaks is small - often no more than the average Mexican Catholic has - but finding them matching each other autosomally is powerful evidence supporting the genetic study Jan Meisels Allen posted to this group on 1/14/2019 in her message titled "(Latin America) Genetic Study of Latin Americans Reveals History of Converso Migration" that included some Mexican samples.

Kevin Alan Brook


Re: Cape Verde Jewish roots? #dna #sephardic

Kevin Brook
 

DNA ethnicity estimates are not the only, or the most accurate, way to determine this answer because they can give false positives as well as false negatives. MyHeritage DNA's and Family Tree DNA's Sephardic Jewish categories are not foolproof, particularly the former.

It's more significant to find autosomal DNA cousin matches who are Jewish (either Sephardic or Ashkenazic), but don't automatically trust that those matches are real because short segments need verification. Extensive rounds of triangulation among 6 or more matches and two-sided parent-child phasing using GEDmatch's tools helps to distinguish real matches from identical-by-chance matches. Merely matching one or two Jews randomly isn't enough; you would have to establish a pattern where a cluster of them match on the same chromosome across the same start and end positions and that they also match each other in the same location. I also recommend ignoring matches that fall entirely within Excess IBD Regions because those are notorious for false matches.

Y-chromosomal testing is far less likely to yield Jewish matches for the average descendant of Sephardic Conversos, compared to autosomal DNA tests.

I have not yet seen a Cape Verdean match to a Sephardic DNA segment but indications are that it would be possible based on what we know about the island's migrational history. I have confirmed the existence of Sephardic DNA segments in mainland Portuguese Catholics, Azorean Portuguese (from the Azores Islands), and Brazilian Catholics.

Kevin Alan Brook


Re: December 2020 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert #general #jgs-iajgs #records

Marjorie Geiser
 

For anyone NOT subscribed to this, i just want to say you're missing out on some fabulous information! Thanks, Jan, for the work you do in these.

Margie Geiser
Arizona, USA

LEVINE/LEWIN, SILBERNAGEL/ZYLBERNAGEL/SILVER, EPSTEJN/EPSTEIN, MOCZYDLOWER/MOCHEDLOVER, ERLICH, GRUNPELTZ, JOSKOWICZ, ZYLBERSZTEJN, SZTABINSKA, WILK


Re: United Hebrew Cemetery St. Louis, MO #usa #names #photographs

Michael Hoffman
 

Hi Debbie,

Contact the St Louis Genealogical Society which has a Jewish SIG see https://stlgs.org/ access the communities section for Jewish.
also see the following  https://stlgs.org/research-2/congregations/jewish ask them if they could visit the grave and take a digital photograph for you.

Michael Hoffman

Borehamwood 
HERTS UK


Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please #unitedkingdom

mandy.molava@...
 

I belong to 'Find a grave' website, it's worth joining in my opinion. You can put out a request for a headstone photo and it also works by someone who has joined Find a grave to pop along to their local to have a look for you and take a pic if they find it, or if they happen to be there anyway visiting the graves of their loved ones.

Hope this helps?

Mandy Molava
Researching Belarus, Brest, Hungary, Galacia


Re: How many "first names" did people have? #names

Adam Cherson
 

This may not apply to your fact pattern, but I have sometimes seen the patronymic style of naming, A ben B, turned into the name A B. In other words the father's given name becomes the surname of the son. In this instance, perhaps Yeruchim is Yeruchim Elkhanan (or just Chanan)  ben Tsvi Girsh, which then becomes Yeruchim Tsvi or Yeruchim GIrsh on various records, while to his family he remains known as Chona.
--
Adam Cherson


Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please #unitedkingdom

Martyn Woolf
 

There are a few photos of headstones in the Fawcett Road Cemetery in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England. The cemetery is actually in Southsea which is adjacent to Portsmouth but the community was one.
If you go to the following website it might help.

www.findagrave.com/cemetery/2620771/old-jewish-cemetery/photo0771/

Best regards for 2021
Martyn Woolf


Help with photo style, trend, oil painting portraits years needed #belarus #galicia #hungary

mandy.molava@...
 

I have some old family photos - coloured - one oil painting with a Chinese outfit on and a photo that appears caricature type. I just wondered if anyone knew of these? What year? One of mine will have been for sure before 1912. I have just got a smart match from Israel with some of the same style photos on, but were these type of photos around everywhere?
Thanks in advance
Mandy Molava
Researching Belarus, Brest, Galacia, Hungary


Re: Vinitsky/Winitsky from Detroit, Mich. #usa

bobbymax911@...
 

Re VINITSKY/WINITSKY.  Do you have any first names, or where they were from?
We have traced VITENSKY/WITENSKY that arrived in England and the U.S.at the beginning of the 20th century.

Maxine Goldsmith
San Diego


December 2020 Summary of IAJGS Records Access Alert #general #jgs-iajgs #records

Jan Meisels Allen
 

As mentioned previously, every month I post a listing of the IAJGS Records Access Alert topics from the previous month for you to see the variety of issues…some were posted on this discussion group but most were not—   all postings are included below.   all postings are included below.   All postings are included below. The following are the summaries for the month of December, 2020.  In order not to miss out on important information it is worthwhile for you to be subscribed to the Records Access Alert.

Without records, genealogists cannot do genealogy –making certain that we retain access and gain access where it is impaired is every genealogists' responsibility.

 

  • Ancestry CEO to Step Down; Blackstone Completes Acquisition of Ancestry for $4.7 Billion
  • Ancestry Hit With Litigation Over Yearbooks in California

 

  • (Australia) Government Says ABC Can Keep Google and Facebook News Payments
  • (Canada) Consumer Privacy Protection Act Introduced
  • (Europe-Russia) Court of Human Rights Finds Russia Wrong to Revoke Nationality for Lack of Disclosure
  • (European Union) Privacy and Monitoring of People on Social Media Websites Come to Head
  • (European Union-France) France to Seek EU Riposte if US Punishes France for Digital Tax
  • (European Union, United Kingdom) Digital Markets Act Draft Released- Warning of Breaking Up Big Technology Firms
  • Facebook News-- Agreements To Pay Publishers In Select Countries
  • Facebook Criticizes Apple Over Privacy
  • Facebook Sued by 48 Attorneys General and the FTC Regarding Antitrust
  • (France) French Data Regulator Fines Google, Amazon For Breaching Cookies Rules
  • (India) Orissa High Court Reaffirms Person's Right to be Forgotten
  • (Ireland) Twitter Received First EU Fine in Cross-Border Case
  • (Israel) Open Call for Amendments to Privacy Protection Law
  • (Russia) Russia Declassified Archives in 22 regions to Investigate WWll Nazi War Crimes
  • (Russia, Ukraine) KGB Archives
  • (United Kingdom) Facebook Says it Has to Move UK User Data to USA and Away from GDPR
  • (UK) GRO Adds Index of Births to 1934

 

  • (US) American Religious Ecologies Digitizes 1926 Census of Religious Bodies
  • (US) Archivist of US Announces Grants to Make Historical Records Happen
  • (US) Census Bureau Publishes Notice of 2022 Census of Governments; Economic Census
  • (US) Census Bureau To Miss Year-End Deadline
  • (US) Federal Judiciary Trying to Block Free Access to Court Records
  • (US) FTC Issues Orders to Social Media and Video Streaming Services
  • (US) Google Hit by Anti-Trust Law Suit from 38 States Attorney General
  • (US) Groups Sue Trump and White House to Stop Destruction of Administration Records
  • (US) HR 8235 Open Court Act of 2020 Passes House is in Senate (PACER)
  • (US) Library of Congress and GPO release10 Years of Legislative Data on Gov Information
  • (US) Library of Congress and GPO release10 Years of Legislative Data on Gov Information
  • (US) N-644 Application for Posthumous Citizenship
  • (US) NARA Proposed Rule on Amending Records Management and Standardization of Disposal of Records
  • (US) NARA Proposed Rule on Collection Information Published in Federal Register
  • (US) President Trump Signs Stimulus Package Including Provision of Section 230 of Communications Act
  • (US) President Trump Vetoes National Defense Authorization Act As It Doesn't Remove Section 230 Communications Decency Act
  • (US) Representative Maloney Wants to Make Certain Trump Administration Preserves Records
  • (US) Secret Service Launches New Website
  • (US) Section 230 of the of the Communications Decency Act Center of Fight Between President and Congress
  • (US) Senator Thom Tillis Releases Discussion Draft of Reform of Digital Millennium Copyright Act
  • (US) Supreme Court Took No Action on President's Plan to Exclude Undocumented Immigrants from 2020 Census
  • (US) Supreme Court Won't Block Trump Plan to Exclude Unauthorized Immigrants from Census
  • (US) USCIS Loses FOIA Litigation - Government Required to Give People Access to Their Immigration Files
  • (US) USCIS Proposed Rule on Collection Information Published in Federal Register
  • (US-CA) California Attorney General Proposed 4th Set of Modifications to California Consumer Privacy Act Regulations
  • (US-CT) Oldest US Newspaper to Close Its Newsroom and Offices Operating Out of Since Mid-1940s
  • (US- MA) Update on Governor's Budget That Proposed Imposing Embargo Periods for Vital Records
  • (US-NY) Governor Signs Legislation Giving Deceased Rights for 40 Years
  • (US-NYC) Update New York Police Department to Remove DNA Profiles of Non-Criminals from Database
  • (US-Ohio) Cleveland.com Expands Right to be Forgiven
  • (US-OH) Policy on Ohio Birth Records Found Illegal
  • (US-WA) Washington State Official to Fight Trump Plan to Sell Seattle National Archives Building

 

The IAJGS Board of Directors approved opening the Records Access Alert to anyone who is interested in records access. This was announced previously.  We now have subscribers from many genealogical organizations not

previously able to subscribe. To be on top of what is happening I encourage you to register for the Records Access Alerts to receive the information in a timely manner.  If you are interested in any of the above items, please

register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert and look at them in the archives.  To register for the IAJGS Records Access Alert go to: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/listinfo/records-access-alerts and follow the instructions to enter

your email address, full name and which genealogical organization you belong to-a society, SIG  or a subscriber of JewishGen, Avotaynu, Legal Genealogist  etc. You will receive an email response that you have to reply to,

or the subscription will not be finalized. The alerts are archived and once you register you may access the archives at: http://lists.iajgs.org/mailman/private/records-access-alerts/

 

The IAJGS Records Access Alert is not a daily announcement list. Depending on what happens worldwide, there may be no postings for several days and other times there may be several in one day.

 

These are listed alphabetically not chronologically.  Each month the locales covered differ.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 


Re: 1910 Census lists German as language, but country of origin is "Russia. #russia #ukraine

Shel
 

Also note that Russia encouraged not only ethnic Germans to establish colonies in Russia (Ukraine), but also Jews were allowed to do the same. See previous JGen Discussion List messages by Mel Comisarow.

Shel BERCOVICH

Searching: LIPKIND, BERCOVICI, ECHTER, TSVANG (ZWANG) GERBIL


Re: Photo of headstone in Portsmouth needed, please #unitedkingdom

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"who is buried in the Portsmouth Jewish Cemetery". Portsmouth, England; a US Portsmouth; or maybe an Australian one?
 
Even London has this problem, as I always think first of London, Ontario, then realize that probably isn't it.
 
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Re: Questions about rendering of surname #belarus #poland #russia

Sally Bruckheimer
 

"My other question is about the American rendering of the initial Узд as Usd rather than Uzd. I have come across at least three Usdansky lines in the United States"

Us- is less 'foreign' than Uz- in America, so it doesn't actually matter. 

My second rule of genealogy, when I taught it, was "spelling doesn't count"

Clerks in the US and Poland / Russia and elsewhere spelled what they heard. My grandmother's birth record in NYC says her mother's maiden name was Livingston - it was Löwenstein, but say it with a German accent and listen with an English ear, and that explains it.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Announcing the publication of the translation of the Yizkor Book: Devenishki Book: Memorial for a Village #yizkorbooks

Joel Alpert
 

The Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project of JewishGen is proud to announce
the publication of its105th title, Devenishki Book: Memorial for a
Village
Translation of Sefer Divenishok; yad vashem le-ayara yehudit
(Dieveniskes, Lithuania)

Translation of Sefer Divenishok; yad vashem le-ayara yehudit
Original Yizkor Book Published by
Divenishok Societies of Israel and the United States: 1977 Israel
Original Yizkor Book Editor: David Shtokfish
Translation Coordinator and Editor: Adam Cherson
Translation Layout, Cover Design, and Indexing: Adam Cherson
Hard Cover, 11” by 8.5”, 660 pages with all original illustrations and
photographs

List Price: $65.95, available from JewishGen for $37

To order go to the bottom of:
https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ybip/YBIP_Dieveniskes.html
and click on the blue JewishGen to go to the order form.

Details:

Around 1650, Jews fleeing Podolian and Ukrainian pogroms began
populating the Vilna area, including Divenishok. After the Russian
Empire assumed control of the region in 1795, Jews were prohibited
from living in small villages, forcing more Jews to move into
Divenishok. By the time the Germans arrived in 1941, there were about
1,200 Jews living in the town, but by mid-1942, after a presence of
300 years, the Jews of Divenishok were gone, many having been murdered
in mass graves or gas chambers. How did this happen?

One descendant of the town explains things this way:

…we must attempt to explain and answer the question plaguing every Jew
who was not in the valley of death; “How was an entire nation led as
lambs to the slaughter?

” Well, it must be said once and for all in a loud voice to our
brethren, the People of Zion, and the Sons of Ishmael should hear and
listen: our loved ones did not go as lambs to slaughter!
The heroic acts by individuals, uprisings in the ghettos and death
camps, the thousands of Jewish partisans who served the resistance
movement across occupied Europe, 1.5 million volunteers, soldiers and
officers on all fronts serving the Allied Forces are the answer to the
big and terrible lie!
Our nation had a significant role in ending the Third Reich.
We have sinned an unforgivable sin against ourselves by
overemphasizing the events of the Holocaust over the bravery in WWII.
(MY Itskovitsh, p. 207)
This Divenishok Memorial Book is a passionately written multi-author
testament to the courage and suffering of a people out-numbered,
out-gunned, and out-supplied, who put up a fierce fight, and continued
fighting until eventually finding homes in Israel, the Americas, South
Africa, and Australia.

Nearby Jewish Communities:
Byenyakoni, Belarus 11 miles WNW
Salcininkai 12 miles NW
Voranava, Belarus 12 miles WSW
Traby, Belarus 13 miles ESE
Lipnishki, Belarus 14 miles S
Halshany, Belarus 17 miles ENE
Iwye, Belarus 19 miles SSE
Ashmyany, Belarus 20 miles NE
Laibiskes 20 miles N
Jasiunai 21 miles NW
Gav'ya, Belarus 24 miles S
Eisiskes 25 miles W
Vishneva, Belarus 25 miles E
Lida, Belarus 25 miles SSW
Zhuprany, Belarus 26 miles NE
Radun, Belarus 27 miles WSW
Krevo, Belarus 28 miles ENE
Rudamina 29 miles NNW
Bakshty, Belarus 29 miles SE

Packed with history; this book opens a unique window to life in this
shtetl. A must-read! Certainly a welcome gift to the relative who
would appreciate this unique history of their shtetl. A perfect Purim
gift for family.

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project


JGS of Greater Orlando. Free Virtual Meeting. Finding your Eastern European Jewish Family on JRI-Poland.org. Tuesday, January 12 at 7:00 p.m. ET. Speaker: Robinn Magid. #announcements

dmjacobs@...
 

ZOOM MEETING
January 12, 2021, 7:00 PM

Finding your Eastern European Jewish Family on JRI-Poland.org

Speaker:  Robinn Magid


Join us for a presentation of some truly memorable stories from the JRI-Poland.org case file that highlight what this incredible database and website might do for your own research. For 25 years, JRI-Poland has served as the preferred finding aid for the Jewish records that survive in the archives of Poland today. This vast collection of 6.2 million records includes information about towns and families from Poland, Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, Germany and the former territories of Galicia and Prussia. Through understanding the contents of the database and how to improve your search results to exploring preserved Holocaust-related records, this lecture will focus on the good things that can come out of a genealogical search. Come listen to stories of the people we’ve helped in the hope that you’ll get a useful new idea from our more surprising experiences.
 

 

Robinn Magid is the Assistant Director of JRI-Poland.org and a recent recipient of the IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award. She recently became the project manager of the JRI-Poland “NextGen Project” to redesign the JRI-Poland website, search engine and database. She a frequent speaker and writer on Jewish genealogy topics.
 
Robinn’s genealogical work resulted in her being recognized by the City of Lublin, Poland – her grandmother’s hometown – with a medal from the mayor for inspiring the future and cultural identity of that city of 340,000 people on Lublin’s 700th birthday in 2017. 
 
Robinn has spoken at many IAJGS conferences on behalf of JRI-Poland and has served as the chair of two groundbreaking conferences: IAJGS 2018 Warsaw, Poland conference, and the IAJGS 2020 Virtual Conference on Jewish Genealogy. She is a member of the San Francisco - Bay Area JGS and has spoken to her group and to other societies. Robinn is sheltering-at-home in Berkeley, California with her husband, four children and new daughter-in-law!
 

 

 

Registration is required for this meeting.  Send an email to jgsgo.blogger@.... You will receive an acknowledgement of registration. A link to access the Zoom meeting will be sent to you a few days before the meeting.

--
Diane M. Jacobs
Winter Park, Florida


Re: 1910 Census lists German as language, but country of origin is "Russia. #russia #ukraine

mvayser@...
 

Maryellen
"Germans from Russia" are ethnic Germans, not Jewish.

The Latvia theory, suggested by some in this thread, is the likely scenario.
Königsberg should not be considered here, as it was never part of the Russian empire.  They held it for only a couple of years in mid-1700's, before turning it back to Prussia.  It became part of the Soviet Union only after WWII with all ethnic Germans deported and people from Soviet the Union were moved there to repopulate the city (possibly only ethnic Russians).

Mike Vayser

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