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Re: Use of Middle Names Israel and Sarah on German 1939 Minority Census #germany

David Seldner
 

Dear all,

I also noticed during my research that some "Israels" and "Sarahs"
had been removed, others not. The answer why this is so is relatively
simple. There had to be a reason to change the name again. In
some cases survivors requested the change of name, in other
cases descendants asked for it (like in the case of my family).
And, as I was told in one Standesamt, it had happened that the
chief of the Standesamt had given the order to do it.

David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany


BRESLAU to South AFRICA: GOLDMANN, FRIEDLAENDER and MAHN #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Louis GOLDMANN was born in Breslau and in the early
19th century immigrated to Burghersdorp in the Cape of
Good Hope. He married Caroline, née SICHEL, and he
died in Frankfurt in about 1877.

He was in some way related to the FRIEDLAENDER family
some of whom moved >from Breslau to Beuthen before
migrating to Midelburg in South Africa in the mid-
19th century. It is possible that the GOLDMANN family
was related in some way to the MAHN family also from
Breslau. Natalie MAHN married Isadore FRIEDLAENDER (or
FRIEDLANDER as the family is now named).

I would be very grateful if anyone can show me how
these families >from Breslau are related.

Adam Yamey, London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


German SIG #Germany RE: Use of Middle Names Israel and Sarah on German 1939 Minority Census #germany

David Seldner
 

Dear all,

I also noticed during my research that some "Israels" and "Sarahs"
had been removed, others not. The answer why this is so is relatively
simple. There had to be a reason to change the name again. In
some cases survivors requested the change of name, in other
cases descendants asked for it (like in the case of my family).
And, as I was told in one Standesamt, it had happened that the
chief of the Standesamt had given the order to do it.

David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany


German SIG #Germany BRESLAU to South AFRICA: GOLDMANN, FRIEDLAENDER and MAHN #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

Louis GOLDMANN was born in Breslau and in the early
19th century immigrated to Burghersdorp in the Cape of
Good Hope. He married Caroline, née SICHEL, and he
died in Frankfurt in about 1877.

He was in some way related to the FRIEDLAENDER family
some of whom moved >from Breslau to Beuthen before
migrating to Midelburg in South Africa in the mid-
19th century. It is possible that the GOLDMANN family
was related in some way to the MAHN family also from
Breslau. Natalie MAHN married Isadore FRIEDLAENDER (or
FRIEDLANDER as the family is now named).

I would be very grateful if anyone can show me how
these families >from Breslau are related.

Adam Yamey, London, UK<adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Re: Seek town Bergheim or Berkheim near Frankfur a.M. #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

j. sturkop schrieb:

I am looking for a Jewish family who lived (in 1778) in Berkheim (probably:
Bergheim) near Frankfurt. I am now looking for the location of that Berkheim
/ Bergheim. In Germany, I found six locations of that name, but I believe
that the closest to Frankfurt is the village Bergheim at appr. 25 kilometers
southwest of Kassel, between Korbach and Fritzler. But that is still a 100
kilometers away >from Frankfurt. Does anyone know a Berkheim / Bergheim which
is closer to Frankfurt than that?
Dear Ko,
there is also the possibility that you are really looking for
"Berkersheim" (with a "ers" added) which in the old days used to be an
independent village just outside of Frankfurt/Main but was incorporated
into Frankfurt and is now a district of Frankfurt/Main,

with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany <fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de>


German SIG #Germany Re: Seek town Bergheim or Berkheim near Frankfur a.M. #germany

Fritz Neubauer
 

j. sturkop schrieb:

I am looking for a Jewish family who lived (in 1778) in Berkheim (probably:
Bergheim) near Frankfurt. I am now looking for the location of that Berkheim
/ Bergheim. In Germany, I found six locations of that name, but I believe
that the closest to Frankfurt is the village Bergheim at appr. 25 kilometers
southwest of Kassel, between Korbach and Fritzler. But that is still a 100
kilometers away >from Frankfurt. Does anyone know a Berkheim / Bergheim which
is closer to Frankfurt than that?
Dear Ko,
there is also the possibility that you are really looking for
"Berkersheim" (with a "ers" added) which in the old days used to be an
independent village just outside of Frankfurt/Main but was incorporated
into Frankfurt and is now a district of Frankfurt/Main,

with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany <fritz.neubauer@uni-bielefeld.de>


INTRO - thanks and what I'm working on #germany

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

Hello, GerSig -
I've just joined the group. I'm a newbie to geneology in general, and
a novice in doing German Jewish genealogy research in particular.

First, let me thank everyone who resonded to my question about the use
of "Israel" and "Sarah" as middle names, as seen in the German Minority
Census of 1939. What a terrible story you have told! How utterly
devastating to use the most glorious names within Judaism as a marker
for humiliation and death! Each of you gave me just a little different
viewpoint >from which you explained what had happened, and that was most
interesting. I am very grateful for your prompt and most useful help.

My primary research goals are as follows:
to see if I can find enough about my grandmother's family, almost
wiped out in the Shoah, to submit a well-crafted claim to the Swiss
Dormant Banks Claims commission;

to find out more in general about my paternal grandmother's family,
which came >from Rawitsch (now Rawicz), formerly Prussia and now Poland.

The names there are:
SANDER, my greatgrandmother's maiden name, about which I know
nothing except that the family was middle class in the 1870's
(there's a great story about why I don't know - another time for
that, I think) and

POGORSELSKY, my greatgrandfather's name in many variant
spellings. He was a trader of pelts and other goods and quite
traditional as well as orthodox. I know that his family was
murdered - at least six sent >from Hamburg to Minsk, where
they were killed - and probably about 30 more.

My father rescued one cousin in Hamburt the night before
Hitler closed all the ports permanently; she was the only
survivor of them, and she and my family are all that is left
of this clan.

This research will let me know for sure if a large family of
persons (mostly >from Berlin) whose names are spelled
Pogorzelski are related to my Pogerselsky's. Of course, the
names would be pronounced almost the same. I think
there is a real chance they are related, but I'm not
sure how. Some sleuthing on my part turned up the fact that the two
spellings each have persons born in the same little town of Rawitsch.
Bound to be related, I think! Unfortunately, the 21 Pogorzelski's that

I've researched thus far were wiped out pretty much en masse, although
there is a tiny remnant in Israel. Do you know how people who left
records at Yad Vashem can be contacted?

to find out about my paternal grandfather's family,
BERGMAN, >from Riga Latvia. They were upper-middle class, non-observant,
German-speakers. While most came here in the 1880's, I understand that
my great uncle Simon rescued at least one family member during WWII.

Thanks for any help - as you know, I have been studying the 1939 german
Minority Census most carefully (an emeotional experience when one sees
one's family's signatures on what amounted to a death certificate) as
well as gedenkbuchs, Yad Vashem files, and lists >from the various
concentration/labor camps. It is sad but fascinating work. Perhaps an
article will come out of it on how one learns to maneuver through this
information system.

FYI - live in Washington, DC, which is a great help. I speak
well-accented French and Spanish, and a little Russian. Unfortunately,
I do not speak or read German - wish my father and grandmother had
taught me! I'm an avid System X Macintosh user. My fingers don't do
Windows, but they do do Reunion!

Susan Bergman Meehan Washington DC smeehan@tcs.wap.org

BTW - I had a fascinatingly unpleasant experience trying to get the
instruction page for the 1939 German Minority Census translated. Some
things don't change, I guess.


German SIG #Germany INTRO - thanks and what I'm working on #germany

Susan Meehan <smeehan@...>
 

Hello, GerSig -
I've just joined the group. I'm a newbie to geneology in general, and
a novice in doing German Jewish genealogy research in particular.

First, let me thank everyone who resonded to my question about the use
of "Israel" and "Sarah" as middle names, as seen in the German Minority
Census of 1939. What a terrible story you have told! How utterly
devastating to use the most glorious names within Judaism as a marker
for humiliation and death! Each of you gave me just a little different
viewpoint >from which you explained what had happened, and that was most
interesting. I am very grateful for your prompt and most useful help.

My primary research goals are as follows:
to see if I can find enough about my grandmother's family, almost
wiped out in the Shoah, to submit a well-crafted claim to the Swiss
Dormant Banks Claims commission;

to find out more in general about my paternal grandmother's family,
which came >from Rawitsch (now Rawicz), formerly Prussia and now Poland.

The names there are:
SANDER, my greatgrandmother's maiden name, about which I know
nothing except that the family was middle class in the 1870's
(there's a great story about why I don't know - another time for
that, I think) and

POGORSELSKY, my greatgrandfather's name in many variant
spellings. He was a trader of pelts and other goods and quite
traditional as well as orthodox. I know that his family was
murdered - at least six sent >from Hamburg to Minsk, where
they were killed - and probably about 30 more.

My father rescued one cousin in Hamburt the night before
Hitler closed all the ports permanently; she was the only
survivor of them, and she and my family are all that is left
of this clan.

This research will let me know for sure if a large family of
persons (mostly >from Berlin) whose names are spelled
Pogorzelski are related to my Pogerselsky's. Of course, the
names would be pronounced almost the same. I think
there is a real chance they are related, but I'm not
sure how. Some sleuthing on my part turned up the fact that the two
spellings each have persons born in the same little town of Rawitsch.
Bound to be related, I think! Unfortunately, the 21 Pogorzelski's that

I've researched thus far were wiped out pretty much en masse, although
there is a tiny remnant in Israel. Do you know how people who left
records at Yad Vashem can be contacted?

to find out about my paternal grandfather's family,
BERGMAN, >from Riga Latvia. They were upper-middle class, non-observant,
German-speakers. While most came here in the 1880's, I understand that
my great uncle Simon rescued at least one family member during WWII.

Thanks for any help - as you know, I have been studying the 1939 german
Minority Census most carefully (an emeotional experience when one sees
one's family's signatures on what amounted to a death certificate) as
well as gedenkbuchs, Yad Vashem files, and lists >from the various
concentration/labor camps. It is sad but fascinating work. Perhaps an
article will come out of it on how one learns to maneuver through this
information system.

FYI - live in Washington, DC, which is a great help. I speak
well-accented French and Spanish, and a little Russian. Unfortunately,
I do not speak or read German - wish my father and grandmother had
taught me! I'm an avid System X Macintosh user. My fingers don't do
Windows, but they do do Reunion!

Susan Bergman Meehan Washington DC smeehan@tcs.wap.org

BTW - I had a fascinatingly unpleasant experience trying to get the
instruction page for the 1939 German Minority Census translated. Some
things don't change, I guess.


KATZOFF family in Israel #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Several weeks ago I posted a request to contact a KATZOFF family->from South
America-who live in Israel. The origin was >from Brisk/Brest-Litovsk. One of
the members of this family (>from Kiryat Gat) contacted me by phone but
unfortunately I didn't take his number and according to my spelling I didn't
find his name in the computerized Bezek directory.

A cousin of mine >from the USA is now visiting in Israel and would like to
make contact with possible KATZOFF relatives here.

So, if my distant cousin >from K.Gat sees this message or anyone knowing them
please contact me soon. This goes for anyone else >from the KATZOFF's to
whom we may be connected.

Shavua tov, vechodesh tov vechag pesach kasher vesameach

Yoni Ben-Ari (Katzoff), Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KATZOFF family in Israel #general

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Several weeks ago I posted a request to contact a KATZOFF family->from South
America-who live in Israel. The origin was >from Brisk/Brest-Litovsk. One of
the members of this family (>from Kiryat Gat) contacted me by phone but
unfortunately I didn't take his number and according to my spelling I didn't
find his name in the computerized Bezek directory.

A cousin of mine >from the USA is now visiting in Israel and would like to
make contact with possible KATZOFF relatives here.

So, if my distant cousin >from K.Gat sees this message or anyone knowing them
please contact me soon. This goes for anyone else >from the KATZOFF's to
whom we may be connected.

Shavua tov, vechodesh tov vechag pesach kasher vesameach

Yoni Ben-Ari (Katzoff), Efrat, Israel


Chevra Ahavat Achim Bris D'Lita #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Hello Genners,

Does anyone have any information about the Chevra Ahavat Achim Bris D'Lita section?
This one happens to be in Washington Cemetery in NY.

Happy Pesach to all.

Regards,
Joan

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx
and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


New York City Housing Records #general

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I am trying to find out if old records exist for NYC leases and people
renting apartments.In other words,if I know the address of a relative,are
there records like this that could lead to additional information.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chevra Ahavat Achim Bris D'Lita #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

Hello Genners,

Does anyone have any information about the Chevra Ahavat Achim Bris D'Lita section?
This one happens to be in Washington Cemetery in NY.

Happy Pesach to all.

Regards,
Joan

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@intergate.com
Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx
and Brooklyn, NY;
GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York City Housing Records #general

Gary Gershfield <gmgkpc@...>
 

I am trying to find out if old records exist for NYC leases and people
renting apartments.In other words,if I know the address of a relative,are
there records like this that could lead to additional information.
Thank you for any assistance you can provide.
Sincerely,
Gary Gershfield
Forest Hills,NY


(No subject) #galicia

WATERSLAKE1@...
 

RE: KURTZMAN (USA); KURZMANN (UKRAINE/GALICIA)
GRESSLER (UKRAINE/GALICIA)

I AM HOPING TO RECEIVE REPLIES TO MY RESEARCH ON THE FOLLOWING:

Kurtzman - My ggf/ggm, gf & 1 sibling arrived at Ellis Island 12/05/1910 on
the ss Lapland
The older siblings had come to NY/NJ prior. The family was >from Jaslo (now
in Poland),
however my gggf/gggm on my ggm's side were >from Drohobych. The gggf/gggm
were
Davida Markusa and Tessy Graslerow (not necessarily born in Drohobych).
My ggf/ggm were Moses Josef Kurzmann & Sussla Markusa Kurzmann. My ggf may
have worked in a refinery in Nieglowicach.

My grandfather was born in Jaslo March 16, 1896. His godfather was
Jeremiah(n) Blum;
a witness was Moses Rosner (probably worked with my ggf in the refinery),
the mohl was
Selig Muller, a businessman >from Jaslo.

In addition, one of my great aunts was Beila (Berta) Kurzman, born in
Drohobych June 1889
and married in Jaslo 10/31/09 to Markus Kliwanski (Marcus/Morris Klevens).

My grandfather & his parents settled in Newark, NJ, however some of the
siblings went to
NY and Boston with their spouses.

If anyone thinks they have any connection to my family or any of the names
I've mentioned,
I'd like to hear >from you. Any information on the shetl of Jaslo would also
be of interest.

Thank you
Myrna Water (nee Slatnick)
N Miami Beach, USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia (no subject) #galicia

WATERSLAKE1@...
 

RE: KURTZMAN (USA); KURZMANN (UKRAINE/GALICIA)
GRESSLER (UKRAINE/GALICIA)

I AM HOPING TO RECEIVE REPLIES TO MY RESEARCH ON THE FOLLOWING:

Kurtzman - My ggf/ggm, gf & 1 sibling arrived at Ellis Island 12/05/1910 on
the ss Lapland
The older siblings had come to NY/NJ prior. The family was >from Jaslo (now
in Poland),
however my gggf/gggm on my ggm's side were >from Drohobych. The gggf/gggm
were
Davida Markusa and Tessy Graslerow (not necessarily born in Drohobych).
My ggf/ggm were Moses Josef Kurzmann & Sussla Markusa Kurzmann. My ggf may
have worked in a refinery in Nieglowicach.

My grandfather was born in Jaslo March 16, 1896. His godfather was
Jeremiah(n) Blum;
a witness was Moses Rosner (probably worked with my ggf in the refinery),
the mohl was
Selig Muller, a businessman >from Jaslo.

In addition, one of my great aunts was Beila (Berta) Kurzman, born in
Drohobych June 1889
and married in Jaslo 10/31/09 to Markus Kliwanski (Marcus/Morris Klevens).

My grandfather & his parents settled in Newark, NJ, however some of the
siblings went to
NY and Boston with their spouses.

If anyone thinks they have any connection to my family or any of the names
I've mentioned,
I'd like to hear >from you. Any information on the shetl of Jaslo would also
be of interest.

Thank you
Myrna Water (nee Slatnick)
N Miami Beach, USA


Re: Land Manifests to New York from Canada in 1905 #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear group,
I confess to posting my reply without doing any immediate research, hence
my misspelling of "St. Albans". I was tired and it was late, but I wanted
to provide some guidance to the original researcher. My experience has
been that many people are aware of the St. Albans lists, but far fewer are
aware that lists for other border crossings exist, and may contain useful
information.

I have now done a bit of research:
Peter is correct in stating that the St. Albans Lists contain records >from
far more than Vermont and Maine. According to
<http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/fall_2000_us_canada_immigration_records_1.html>
(which contains a fascinating history of Canada-US immigration), once the
US began recording people coming into the US via Canada in 1895, the
records >from several Canada/US border cities were gathered annually and
sent to United States INS offices in Montreal. At some point in time, that
office was moved >from Montreal to St. Albans, Vermont, along with the
records. When the records were later sent to the National Archives for
preservation and storage, they came >from St. Albans, hence the name.

The above article implies that absolutely all Canadian/US border crossing
records were sent to Montreal, then to St. Albans. I have not found this
to be the case.

When I began researching my family history in 1998, I knew that my
grandfather, his brothers, sister, and mother had immigrated to Toronto,
where he married my grandmother and had their first son. His entire family
later moved to Los Angeles. I checked the St. Albans lists for records of
their US arrivals, without success. Years later I came across a reference
to Detroit Border Crossing lists. I was finally successful, and found the
records of my grandfather's entire family immigrating to the US in 1916 -
1919.

Some of my grandMother's family stayed in Toronto. I knew one relative had
built a business in Buffalo and the husband had died there, so they must
have traveled into the US at some point. I found no record of them in
either the St. Albans Lists nor the Detroit lists. Although I began my
research in 1998, it wasn't until 2002 that I learned other lists even
existed, including the records for Buffalo and Niagara Falls. At the
Washington DC conference, I checked these microfilms, and found over a
dozen records! Some relatives entered to visit the Buffalo business, my
grandfather came looking for a job only two years after he'd immigrated (I
learned the exact date and ship he'd arrived on!), some entered to work,
some to visit previously-unknown relatives in NYC.

I'd hoped to convey the thought that if you've checked the St. Albans lists
without success; - if the dates are valid for you, check the other
lists. Peter is incorrect in stating that the other lists are earlier than
the St Albans list and focus on water arrivals. While the St. Albans lists
do cover the longest period, >from 1895 to 1952, the Buffalo/Niagara
Falls/Rochester list dates >from 1902 until 1954; the Detroit list dates
from 1906 to 1957, both with most arrivals by railroad. Most of the other
small lists seem to date >from 1929 to 1952. There are also separate lists
for some Alaska, other Maine, and other Vermont arrivals.

Prior to 1895, no records were kept or created for people coming into the
US >from Canada.

I hope this clarifies some details --.

Regards,
Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Land Manifests to New York from Canada in 1905 #general

Hilary Henkin <hilary@...>
 

Dear group,
I confess to posting my reply without doing any immediate research, hence
my misspelling of "St. Albans". I was tired and it was late, but I wanted
to provide some guidance to the original researcher. My experience has
been that many people are aware of the St. Albans lists, but far fewer are
aware that lists for other border crossings exist, and may contain useful
information.

I have now done a bit of research:
Peter is correct in stating that the St. Albans Lists contain records >from
far more than Vermont and Maine. According to
<http://www.archives.gov/publications/prologue/fall_2000_us_canada_immigration_records_1.html>
(which contains a fascinating history of Canada-US immigration), once the
US began recording people coming into the US via Canada in 1895, the
records >from several Canada/US border cities were gathered annually and
sent to United States INS offices in Montreal. At some point in time, that
office was moved >from Montreal to St. Albans, Vermont, along with the
records. When the records were later sent to the National Archives for
preservation and storage, they came >from St. Albans, hence the name.

The above article implies that absolutely all Canadian/US border crossing
records were sent to Montreal, then to St. Albans. I have not found this
to be the case.

When I began researching my family history in 1998, I knew that my
grandfather, his brothers, sister, and mother had immigrated to Toronto,
where he married my grandmother and had their first son. His entire family
later moved to Los Angeles. I checked the St. Albans lists for records of
their US arrivals, without success. Years later I came across a reference
to Detroit Border Crossing lists. I was finally successful, and found the
records of my grandfather's entire family immigrating to the US in 1916 -
1919.

Some of my grandMother's family stayed in Toronto. I knew one relative had
built a business in Buffalo and the husband had died there, so they must
have traveled into the US at some point. I found no record of them in
either the St. Albans Lists nor the Detroit lists. Although I began my
research in 1998, it wasn't until 2002 that I learned other lists even
existed, including the records for Buffalo and Niagara Falls. At the
Washington DC conference, I checked these microfilms, and found over a
dozen records! Some relatives entered to visit the Buffalo business, my
grandfather came looking for a job only two years after he'd immigrated (I
learned the exact date and ship he'd arrived on!), some entered to work,
some to visit previously-unknown relatives in NYC.

I'd hoped to convey the thought that if you've checked the St. Albans lists
without success; - if the dates are valid for you, check the other
lists. Peter is incorrect in stating that the other lists are earlier than
the St Albans list and focus on water arrivals. While the St. Albans lists
do cover the longest period, >from 1895 to 1952, the Buffalo/Niagara
Falls/Rochester list dates >from 1902 until 1954; the Detroit list dates
from 1906 to 1957, both with most arrivals by railroad. Most of the other
small lists seem to date >from 1929 to 1952. There are also separate lists
for some Alaska, other Maine, and other Vermont arrivals.

Prior to 1895, no records were kept or created for people coming into the
US >from Canada.

I hope this clarifies some details --.

Regards,
Hilary Henkin
Atlanta, Georgia


Re: Land Manifests to New York from Canada in 1905 #general

Paul Silverstone
 

It has always been unclear to me just who was listed on the St. Albans
records. I have found various relatives, mostly listed just once,
whereas I know they traveled to the US extensively. What were the
criteria for a listing?

Paul Silverstone

Peter Zavon wrote:

I think it very important to understand that the St. Albans Lists (note lack
of apostrophe) is not limited to US entries through Vermont and Maine. The
name of the list refers to St. Albans, VT, which was the regional
headquarters for the US immigration agency at one point. (It is
conveniently near Montreal, where lots of migration activity was occuring.)
But the lists compiled there covered all land crossings into the US from
Canada along the entire boarder - Atlantic to Pacific - for a time. Later
the St. Albans Immigration District covered only the eastern half of the
boarder.

While there are also separate lists for smaller Great Lakes ports (including
Niagara Falls and Rochester, NY among others) I believe these are generally
for periods before that covered by the St Albans list and focus on water
arrivals. Before the very late 19th Century, arrivals by water over one of
the Great Lakes were recorded in ships' manifests but land crossings were
not recorded. St. Albans would seem to be the only collection covering
entry by rail in the eastern US.
--
Paul Silverstone
New York

http://www.paulsilverstone.com/family/index.html

Please reply to: paulh@aya.yale.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Land Manifests to New York from Canada in 1905 #general

Paul Silverstone
 

It has always been unclear to me just who was listed on the St. Albans
records. I have found various relatives, mostly listed just once,
whereas I know they traveled to the US extensively. What were the
criteria for a listing?

Paul Silverstone

Peter Zavon wrote:

I think it very important to understand that the St. Albans Lists (note lack
of apostrophe) is not limited to US entries through Vermont and Maine. The
name of the list refers to St. Albans, VT, which was the regional
headquarters for the US immigration agency at one point. (It is
conveniently near Montreal, where lots of migration activity was occuring.)
But the lists compiled there covered all land crossings into the US from
Canada along the entire boarder - Atlantic to Pacific - for a time. Later
the St. Albans Immigration District covered only the eastern half of the
boarder.

While there are also separate lists for smaller Great Lakes ports (including
Niagara Falls and Rochester, NY among others) I believe these are generally
for periods before that covered by the St Albans list and focus on water
arrivals. Before the very late 19th Century, arrivals by water over one of
the Great Lakes were recorded in ships' manifests but land crossings were
not recorded. St. Albans would seem to be the only collection covering
entry by rail in the eastern US.
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Paul Silverstone
New York

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