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Prostejov Shoah victims online #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

Hi all,

The list of Jewish Shoah victims >from Prostejov (Prossnitz), CZR is now
online on JewishGen's Holocaust Database. I transcribed the names >from
photos I took last summer of the memorial plaques in the Jewish cemetery
there, and later received some transcription assistance >from Maud Beer
(thanks again, Maud). Unfortuantely, I don't see a way on the website for
one to view the entire list, but you can enter specific surnames on the main
Database webpage. Even typing "Prostejov" as a town or Global Text search
does NOT result in this part of the larger JG Holocaust Database appearing.
There was little information on the plaques - names but no birthdates. I
believe that most of them were deported >from Olomouc, and I suppose one
could verify birthdates >from the Terezin deportation lists book (Terezinska
Pametni Kniha).

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0118_prostejov.html

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Searching: GRUNHUT, KOCH - Prostejov, CZR (among others)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Prostejov Shoah victims online #austria-czech

Joseph Lonstein
 

Hi all,

The list of Jewish Shoah victims >from Prostejov (Prossnitz), CZR is now
online on JewishGen's Holocaust Database. I transcribed the names >from
photos I took last summer of the memorial plaques in the Jewish cemetery
there, and later received some transcription assistance >from Maud Beer
(thanks again, Maud). Unfortuantely, I don't see a way on the website for
one to view the entire list, but you can enter specific surnames on the main
Database webpage. Even typing "Prostejov" as a town or Global Text search
does NOT result in this part of the larger JG Holocaust Database appearing.
There was little information on the plaques - names but no birthdates. I
believe that most of them were deported >from Olomouc, and I suppose one
could verify birthdates >from the Terezin deportation lists book (Terezinska
Pametni Kniha).

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0118_prostejov.html

Joe Lonstein
East Lansing, MI

Searching: GRUNHUT, KOCH - Prostejov, CZR (among others)


I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis #usa

Martin Fischer
 

When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The
first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning
local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that

L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the I.O.F.S. of
I. Progress Lodge.

I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but
does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was?

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois

Fischer and Levin family history Web site: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Early American SIG #USA I.O.F.S. of I. Progress Lodge in 1880 St. Louis #usa

Martin Fischer
 

When I was in St. Louis a few weeks ago, I started reading the earliest St.
Louis Jewish newspapers on microfilm in the St. Louis County Library. The
first thing of interest I found was in a column of short items concerning
local people in the Jewish Tribune of Jan. 16, 1880. It noted that

L. Kober (Louis KOBER) was the newly installed treasurer of the I.O.F.S. of
I. Progress Lodge.

I assume that this was either a Jewish fraternal group or a labor union, but
does anyone know what the full name and purpose of this organization was?

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois

Fischer and Levin family history Web site: http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


HARRIS family photos on ViewMate #usa

Martin Fischer
 

Seeking descendants of Gershon HARRIS and his son Moe HARRIS, and another
son and daughter and Gerson's wife, whose names are not known. Gershon
HARRIS's father was named Harry KREWIANSKI, who is believed to have lived in
Sejny, Poland. Gershon and his family are believed to have immigrated to
Cleveland, Ohio, and one or more of his children are believed to have spent
some time in a Jewish orphans home in Cleveland.

Please see Viewmate photos 5661 through 5664 at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5661
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5662
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5663
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5664

Thank you.

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA

The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Early American SIG #USA HARRIS family photos on ViewMate #usa

Martin Fischer
 

Seeking descendants of Gershon HARRIS and his son Moe HARRIS, and another
son and daughter and Gerson's wife, whose names are not known. Gershon
HARRIS's father was named Harry KREWIANSKI, who is believed to have lived in
Sejny, Poland. Gershon and his family are believed to have immigrated to
Cleveland, Ohio, and one or more of his children are believed to have spent
some time in a Jewish orphans home in Cleveland.

Please see Viewmate photos 5661 through 5664 at:

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5661
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5662
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5663
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=5664

Thank you.

Martin Fischer Oak Park, Illinois, USA

The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Early American Sig meeting at eh IAJGS conference #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

To all Yankee Doodle Jewish Genners,

How many of you are going to the IAJGS conference in Las Vegas next July?

It would be nice to meet you face to face.

I have reserved a room for a "Birds of a Feather" meeting for the Early
American Sig on Tuesday at 12 noon.

In Washington 2 years ago we had about 30 people who attended the meeting.

Marvin Weinberg
Coordinator, Early American Sig

P. S. If you have any suggestions for topics or projects that you would like
to discuss, please let me know by E mail, either through the Sig or
directly to me. Or just send a note that you'll be there.


Early American SIG #USA Early American Sig meeting at eh IAJGS conference #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

To all Yankee Doodle Jewish Genners,

How many of you are going to the IAJGS conference in Las Vegas next July?

It would be nice to meet you face to face.

I have reserved a room for a "Birds of a Feather" meeting for the Early
American Sig on Tuesday at 12 noon.

In Washington 2 years ago we had about 30 people who attended the meeting.

Marvin Weinberg
Coordinator, Early American Sig

P. S. If you have any suggestions for topics or projects that you would like
to discuss, please let me know by E mail, either through the Sig or
directly to me. Or just send a note that you'll be there.


Emil Rathenau #germany

Werner Zimmt <wsz@...>
 

I have been searching for the ancestors of Emil RATHENAU, born in Berlin
Dec 11 1838. I found one biography that mentioned his mother's maiden name,
described his father and 2 brothers, but never gave any names. If that
information is available, I would apprciate getting it, or at least a
website I could go to.

Werner Zimmt Tucson, AZ <wsz@Ag.arizona.edu>


German SIG #Germany Emil Rathenau #germany

Werner Zimmt <wsz@...>
 

I have been searching for the ancestors of Emil RATHENAU, born in Berlin
Dec 11 1838. I found one biography that mentioned his mother's maiden name,
described his father and 2 brothers, but never gave any names. If that
information is available, I would apprciate getting it, or at least a
website I could go to.

Werner Zimmt Tucson, AZ <wsz@Ag.arizona.edu>


SITE CITE - Website About Jewish Cemeteries #germany

NaorMichael@...
 

Dear Siggers,

In the last edition of the Juedische Allgemeine Wochenzeitung (Jewish
General Weekly) I have found a short information about quite an interesting
website by Thomas Ridder, dealing with Jewish cemeteries (history, symbols,
gravestones etc.) especially in Germany. I thought it might be useful for
those of you who read German.

http://pomoerium.com/archiv/varia/ridder1.htm

Best regards,

Michael Naor Duesseldorf, Germany


German SIG #Germany SITE CITE - Website About Jewish Cemeteries #germany

NaorMichael@...
 

Dear Siggers,

In the last edition of the Juedische Allgemeine Wochenzeitung (Jewish
General Weekly) I have found a short information about quite an interesting
website by Thomas Ridder, dealing with Jewish cemeteries (history, symbols,
gravestones etc.) especially in Germany. I thought it might be useful for
those of you who read German.

http://pomoerium.com/archiv/varia/ridder1.htm

Best regards,

Michael Naor Duesseldorf, Germany


Re: INDUCH/YENDICK #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Names, of course, can be translated. It is very easy to rely on a direct
translation, and possibly a direct translation is correct in a majority of
cases.
Sometimes, however, a family name origin handed down through the generations
tells a much different story, as in this particular family.

When I interviewed Oleg, I asked him about the name and whether it came >from
"turkey" as we had assumed. He laughed, pointed to his denim jacket, and
recounted the story handed down "forever" in his mother's family through the
generations that the family had been in the indigo dye business and had
businesses in Amsterdam (he was definite about this city) and elsewhere in
Europe (he did not recall which other cities).
How and why they had wound up in Mogilev and Chaussy, he did not know.
I asked if anyone had mentioned if perhaps the family were perhaps Sephardic
in origin, but he said not that he remembered. He insisted that the
generations were adamant about the indigo dye business, and thus the name
Induch for Indigo, which became Yendick only on arrival in America.
He insisted they were not turkeys!

By the way, Beider, in Jewish Names of the Russian Empire, lists INDEKH
(indigo), found in Cherikov and Berdichev, with variations Indikh, Indokh,
Indykh, Gindykh and Gindukh. INDIK he lists as turkey, while INDYK he lists
as turkey or as coming >from the village of Indyki (Starokonst d.).

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@genealogy.org.il
schelly@allrelative.net
MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is now closed. Please continue privately!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonid Zeliger" <leonidze@gmail.com>


Just one remark about the name Indik/Yendik/Induch. If the name is
from east European area its meaning should be rather "turkey" which is
"indiuk" in Russian, "indek or indik" in Yiddish.


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: INDUCH/YENDICK #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Names, of course, can be translated. It is very easy to rely on a direct
translation, and possibly a direct translation is correct in a majority of
cases.
Sometimes, however, a family name origin handed down through the generations
tells a much different story, as in this particular family.

When I interviewed Oleg, I asked him about the name and whether it came >from
"turkey" as we had assumed. He laughed, pointed to his denim jacket, and
recounted the story handed down "forever" in his mother's family through the
generations that the family had been in the indigo dye business and had
businesses in Amsterdam (he was definite about this city) and elsewhere in
Europe (he did not recall which other cities).
How and why they had wound up in Mogilev and Chaussy, he did not know.
I asked if anyone had mentioned if perhaps the family were perhaps Sephardic
in origin, but he said not that he remembered. He insisted that the
generations were adamant about the indigo dye business, and thus the name
Induch for Indigo, which became Yendick only on arrival in America.
He insisted they were not turkeys!

By the way, Beider, in Jewish Names of the Russian Empire, lists INDEKH
(indigo), found in Cherikov and Berdichev, with variations Indikh, Indokh,
Indykh, Gindykh and Gindukh. INDIK he lists as turkey, while INDYK he lists
as turkey or as coming >from the village of Indyki (Starokonst d.).

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@genealogy.org.il
schelly@allrelative.net
MODERATOR NOTE: This thread is now closed. Please continue privately!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonid Zeliger" <leonidze@gmail.com>


Just one remark about the name Indik/Yendik/Induch. If the name is
from east European area its meaning should be rather "turkey" which is
"indiuk" in Russian, "indek or indik" in Yiddish.


Restrictions on Jewish Marriage #germany

TamarDC <t.duke.cohan@...>
 

I am sorry that I missed the beginning of this fascinating
thread, but I hope I may make a comment anyway.

One of the most important results of these marriage
restrictions, which were quite severe, during the early to
mid-19th century at least, was massive immigration of young
Jewish people, most to the US. Many many of my relatives left
their homes during this period and immigrated to the southern
United States because they wanted to get married.

Permission to marry was so precious that in one case in my
family, legend has it that a relative was given a widow's
"right to marry" (I believe it's called a Matrikel) in return
for taking care of her financially for the rest of her life!

Tamar Duke-Cohan (Newton, MA)

MOD NOTE (sigh) Let's not get into arguments about this. Many books and web-sites
can provide expert information about "Matrikel" - defined, marriage restrictions
in various places and times, etc. Tamar's annecdote about an arranged marriage
within a family but accross generations should be familiar to some.

As usual, complete citations of books that contain expert information are
most welcome.


German SIG #Germany Restrictions on Jewish Marriage #germany

TamarDC <t.duke.cohan@...>
 

I am sorry that I missed the beginning of this fascinating
thread, but I hope I may make a comment anyway.

One of the most important results of these marriage
restrictions, which were quite severe, during the early to
mid-19th century at least, was massive immigration of young
Jewish people, most to the US. Many many of my relatives left
their homes during this period and immigrated to the southern
United States because they wanted to get married.

Permission to marry was so precious that in one case in my
family, legend has it that a relative was given a widow's
"right to marry" (I believe it's called a Matrikel) in return
for taking care of her financially for the rest of her life!

Tamar Duke-Cohan (Newton, MA)

MOD NOTE (sigh) Let's not get into arguments about this. Many books and web-sites
can provide expert information about "Matrikel" - defined, marriage restrictions
in various places and times, etc. Tamar's annecdote about an arranged marriage
within a family but accross generations should be familiar to some.

As usual, complete citations of books that contain expert information are
most welcome.


Wallock/Bakalar in and from Odessa #ukraine

Kirsten Votaw
 

I just found out my great-great-grandparents came from
Odessa, around 1893, and thereafter lived in Upstate
NY (Cohoes, Albany County and Tupper Lake, Franklin
County).

My gg-grandfather, Joseph Mordechai, had the surname
of Wallock, but it could have been Wallach (or any
other variation) before the move. His father's name
was Yitzchak (Isaac, I believe) according to his
tombstone.

My gg-grandmother, Anna or Hannah, had the surname of
Bakalar, though it was spelled Bacalar on their
naturalization record. Her father's name was Shlomo
(Solomon) Bakalar, per her tombstone.

I believe Joseph had at least two siblings (or perhaps
cousins) named Abram and Edward, who also moved to
Albany County. Abram (or Abraham) was a rabbi.

If anyone has any info on either family or relatives
with those surnames living in Odessa, I would greatly
appreciate receiving it. Also, if there are any online
links or sources in Odessa or elsewhere that would be
useful in my research I would appreciate knowing
those. This post is my first attempt to do research in
Odessa and I'm sure there's a lot out there to try.

Thanks so much,

Kirsten Votaw
Morgan Hill, California, USA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Wallock/Bakalar in and from Odessa #ukraine

Kirsten Votaw
 

I just found out my great-great-grandparents came from
Odessa, around 1893, and thereafter lived in Upstate
NY (Cohoes, Albany County and Tupper Lake, Franklin
County).

My gg-grandfather, Joseph Mordechai, had the surname
of Wallock, but it could have been Wallach (or any
other variation) before the move. His father's name
was Yitzchak (Isaac, I believe) according to his
tombstone.

My gg-grandmother, Anna or Hannah, had the surname of
Bakalar, though it was spelled Bacalar on their
naturalization record. Her father's name was Shlomo
(Solomon) Bakalar, per her tombstone.

I believe Joseph had at least two siblings (or perhaps
cousins) named Abram and Edward, who also moved to
Albany County. Abram (or Abraham) was a rabbi.

If anyone has any info on either family or relatives
with those surnames living in Odessa, I would greatly
appreciate receiving it. Also, if there are any online
links or sources in Odessa or elsewhere that would be
useful in my research I would appreciate knowing
those. This post is my first attempt to do research in
Odessa and I'm sure there's a lot out there to try.

Thanks so much,

Kirsten Votaw
Morgan Hill, California, USA


Davidsohn family #ukraine

orin
 

Hello
I am researching my cousins ROZA (ROZI) and NUTZI DAVIDSOHN >from KISHINEV.
Their parents MORITZ and BETTY DAVIDSOHN.
They was born in BUCHARES, Romania, after their father died they moved with
their mother to KISHINEV.
They should be 60 - 70 years old, and maybe their surname is different now.

Thank you

Frida Oringer
Hertzeliya, Israel
orin@bezeqint.net


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Davidsohn family #ukraine

orin
 

Hello
I am researching my cousins ROZA (ROZI) and NUTZI DAVIDSOHN >from KISHINEV.
Their parents MORITZ and BETTY DAVIDSOHN.
They was born in BUCHARES, Romania, after their father died they moved with
their mother to KISHINEV.
They should be 60 - 70 years old, and maybe their surname is different now.

Thank you

Frida Oringer
Hertzeliya, Israel
orin@bezeqint.net