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Re: Menachem Nachum and Nathan Schwarz-Meislish, Lask #galicia

Pnina Meislish <pniname@...>
 

Dear Gesher Galicia friends,
Moshe Menachem Eckstein, who lives in Jerusalem, asked me about the
brothers: Menachem Nachum and Nathan Scwarz, sons of Joseph Mordechai. He
thinks that their former name was Meislish. They came >from Elazae Leib, who
wrote " Semen Rokeach". Mr. Ekstein thinks that this family came >from Lask.
He asked the descedents of David Dov Meislish, who was the Chasidic Rav of
Uihel-Hungary and came to >from Lask, but they did not know.

The family of Mr. Eckstein is also relatad to Raphael ben Chaim Meislish
who wrote
Tosfot Shabat.

We will apreciate any help.
Many thanks,


Pnina Meislish, Jerusalem.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Menachem Nachum and Nathan Schwarz-Meislish, Lask #galicia

Pnina Meislish <pniname@...>
 

Dear Gesher Galicia friends,
Moshe Menachem Eckstein, who lives in Jerusalem, asked me about the
brothers: Menachem Nachum and Nathan Scwarz, sons of Joseph Mordechai. He
thinks that their former name was Meislish. They came >from Elazae Leib, who
wrote " Semen Rokeach". Mr. Ekstein thinks that this family came >from Lask.
He asked the descedents of David Dov Meislish, who was the Chasidic Rav of
Uihel-Hungary and came to >from Lask, but they did not know.

The family of Mr. Eckstein is also relatad to Raphael ben Chaim Meislish
who wrote
Tosfot Shabat.

We will apreciate any help.
Many thanks,


Pnina Meislish, Jerusalem.


landowners in the Stanislawow Province [Subject by Moderator] #galicia

Daniel Kobylarz-Hughes <djkh@...>
 

Dear Digest: Would there be any lists of landowners in the Stanislawow
Province >from 1900 through 1926?

Daniel Kobylarz-Hughes djkh@adelphia.net

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia landowners in the Stanislawow Province [Subject by Moderator] #galicia

Daniel Kobylarz-Hughes <djkh@...>
 

Dear Digest: Would there be any lists of landowners in the Stanislawow
Province >from 1900 through 1926?

Daniel Kobylarz-Hughes djkh@adelphia.net

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1912 Galicia Telephone Directory Guide and Index #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Dear Galitzyaners,

Following the announcement about the discovery in Digital Library of
Wielkopolska, Poland 1912 All Galicia Telephone Directory, I'd like to
assist you with tour through this directory and provide the Index.

A. Thank you note

Thank you Grzegorz Gembala >from Krakow for discovery of this Directory.

B. General Introduction to Galicia Phone Directories

Discovery of the existence on line 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory is
probably as significant for the Galicia researchers as 1891 Galicia Business
Directory and the magnificent 1929 Poland Business Directory.

There are also in existence other interwar Telephone Directory. Very
recently Carole Feinberg and myself have computerized Drohobycz pages >from
1935 Lwow Phone Directory which have been submitted couple of months ago for
inclusion in the JewishGen general "Jewish Record Indexing - Poland and
"All Poland" database. We have only received three pages >from this Directory
via Poland and Israel, and if anyone aware of where directory is located,
this would be appreciated.

We have also computerized one only page for Boryslaw >from 1938/39 Directory
(Lwow?), again forwarded to us via Israeli source. We still awaiting for
the other two Boryslaw pages and any information about the 1938/9 Phone
Directory whereabouts.

Do not be disappointed when your family name is not listed.

Telephone connections was a privilege tool of wealthy and some
professionals. This is the reason that there are not many names are listed,
some smaller places had no post office, telegraph or phone facilities
either, as this is evident even about 20 years later, in the pages of 1929
Poland Business Directory.

When phones became more common and financially affordable, another problem
have arrived in Poland, phone lines were not available. My Dad could not get
a phone line after the war (WWII), even after waiting in queue for 25 years
in Poland. On the other hand, my wife and I could not get a phone line
waiting in queue for 6 years in Israel either.

When finally I got a phone line (s), I've discovered that I have not missed
too much after all this waiting for 30 years.
IMHO telephones have been invented exclusively for the teenagers use, and to
annoy people during the working hours.

-----------------
1912 Galicia Telephone Directory (1912 GTD) is located on this page:

http://tinyurl.com/5nx7o

To be able to view Directory sheets, DJVu plugin is needed, a special
viewing format for digital libraries.
All modern computers have been already equiped with this viewing tool.
If your computer does not have this tool, it can be downloaded free >from
the several sources, one of them is:

http://tinyurl.com/48pok

After opening above link, under the "Publication" header click on "content"
and in new window click on " Browse publication".

Title page will appear which says:

General issue for year 1912 "List of the subscribers to His Royal Majesty
(HRM) telephone communication system in Galicia.

Single arrow on the top of the page allows to go to the next or return to
the previous page. Paging system on the top does not correspond to the
paging system in the directory since some of the Directory pages are in
Roman numbering system. Pull down arrow in the paging system menue to jump
to the desired page shown in the index below.

Pages 2 -3 - Clauses A & B) General information about HRM (His Royal
Majesty) telephone system
Pages 3-6 Clause C, How to use telephone (very complicated, use of hands,
pushing button, etc)
Pages 6-8 Clause D, Long distance calls, receiving and sending telegrams
Page 9, Clause E, Office hours, phone connections availability (half day
only, 24 hrs, till midnight, summer time only)
Pages 10-11, Clause F, List of towns with public telephones (located in the
local post offices and telegraphs)
Pages 12- 46, Clause G, Price list for 3 min phone conversation. Towns where
from conversation is initiated are in
bold font, prices is shown in Kronen and Hellers.
Pages 47-53 Additional names of new subscribers (not listed in the main
pages)
Pages 56-98 Lwow
Page 110-130 Krakow

Rest of the towns listed apthabetically are located on the following pages:

Letter Page (s)

A 131
B 132 to 150
C 150 to 151
D 151 to 156
E, F, G 156 to 157
H 157 to 158
I,J 158 to 160
K 160 to 165
L 165 to 166
M 166 to 167
N 167 to 169
O 169 to 172
P 172 to 178
R 179 to 181
S 182 to 191
T 191 to 197
U, W 198 to 199
Z 199 to 203

--------------------

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory Guide and Index #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Dear Galitzyaners,

Following the announcement about the discovery in Digital Library of
Wielkopolska, Poland 1912 All Galicia Telephone Directory, I'd like to
assist you with tour through this directory and provide the Index.

A. Thank you note

Thank you Grzegorz Gembala >from Krakow for discovery of this Directory.

B. General Introduction to Galicia Phone Directories

Discovery of the existence on line 1912 Galicia Telephone Directory is
probably as significant for the Galicia researchers as 1891 Galicia Business
Directory and the magnificent 1929 Poland Business Directory.

There are also in existence other interwar Telephone Directory. Very
recently Carole Feinberg and myself have computerized Drohobycz pages >from
1935 Lwow Phone Directory which have been submitted couple of months ago for
inclusion in the JewishGen general "Jewish Record Indexing - Poland and
"All Poland" database. We have only received three pages >from this Directory
via Poland and Israel, and if anyone aware of where directory is located,
this would be appreciated.

We have also computerized one only page for Boryslaw >from 1938/39 Directory
(Lwow?), again forwarded to us via Israeli source. We still awaiting for
the other two Boryslaw pages and any information about the 1938/9 Phone
Directory whereabouts.

Do not be disappointed when your family name is not listed.

Telephone connections was a privilege tool of wealthy and some
professionals. This is the reason that there are not many names are listed,
some smaller places had no post office, telegraph or phone facilities
either, as this is evident even about 20 years later, in the pages of 1929
Poland Business Directory.

When phones became more common and financially affordable, another problem
have arrived in Poland, phone lines were not available. My Dad could not get
a phone line after the war (WWII), even after waiting in queue for 25 years
in Poland. On the other hand, my wife and I could not get a phone line
waiting in queue for 6 years in Israel either.

When finally I got a phone line (s), I've discovered that I have not missed
too much after all this waiting for 30 years.
IMHO telephones have been invented exclusively for the teenagers use, and to
annoy people during the working hours.

-----------------
1912 Galicia Telephone Directory (1912 GTD) is located on this page:

http://tinyurl.com/5nx7o

To be able to view Directory sheets, DJVu plugin is needed, a special
viewing format for digital libraries.
All modern computers have been already equiped with this viewing tool.
If your computer does not have this tool, it can be downloaded free >from
the several sources, one of them is:

http://tinyurl.com/48pok

After opening above link, under the "Publication" header click on "content"
and in new window click on " Browse publication".

Title page will appear which says:

General issue for year 1912 "List of the subscribers to His Royal Majesty
(HRM) telephone communication system in Galicia.

Single arrow on the top of the page allows to go to the next or return to
the previous page. Paging system on the top does not correspond to the
paging system in the directory since some of the Directory pages are in
Roman numbering system. Pull down arrow in the paging system menue to jump
to the desired page shown in the index below.

Pages 2 -3 - Clauses A & B) General information about HRM (His Royal
Majesty) telephone system
Pages 3-6 Clause C, How to use telephone (very complicated, use of hands,
pushing button, etc)
Pages 6-8 Clause D, Long distance calls, receiving and sending telegrams
Page 9, Clause E, Office hours, phone connections availability (half day
only, 24 hrs, till midnight, summer time only)
Pages 10-11, Clause F, List of towns with public telephones (located in the
local post offices and telegraphs)
Pages 12- 46, Clause G, Price list for 3 min phone conversation. Towns where
from conversation is initiated are in
bold font, prices is shown in Kronen and Hellers.
Pages 47-53 Additional names of new subscribers (not listed in the main
pages)
Pages 56-98 Lwow
Page 110-130 Krakow

Rest of the towns listed apthabetically are located on the following pages:

Letter Page (s)

A 131
B 132 to 150
C 150 to 151
D 151 to 156
E, F, G 156 to 157
H 157 to 158
I,J 158 to 160
K 160 to 165
L 165 to 166
M 166 to 167
N 167 to 169
O 169 to 172
P 172 to 178
R 179 to 181
S 182 to 191
T 191 to 197
U, W 198 to 199
Z 199 to 203

--------------------

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


SEPTIMUS Family #galicia

Septlaw@...
 

I am researching members of the SEPTIMUS family, who lived in the area known
as Boryslaw during the late-1800s, as documented in the Polish Records
Index. The patriarch of the Septimus family was Israel Lieb SEPTIMUS, who had the
following children with his first wife, name unknown: Nesia (Schneider),
Lea (Herzl Rothbaum), Solomon (my husband's grandfather), Matel (Mendel Klar),
Abish, and Jacob. When Israel's first wife died, he married her sister,
Nechume Rozenberg. Their union resulted in the following children: Benjamin,
Mendel, Isidore, Herman, Anna (Mitchell), Gitel (Green), and Mordechai. I have
located descendants of each of the children of Israel and Nechume SEPTIMUS.

I have not located descendants of the following SEPTIMUS family members
(with approximate years of birth, if known): Nesia (SCHNEIDER) (1867), whose
children were Sarah (Nathan GOLDBERG) (1895), Ruth (KLEIN), Pearl (PENNER), and
Joy; Lea (Herzl ROTHBAUM), whose children were Rubin (1888), Salomon (1893),
and Osias Majer or Max (Clara) (1893); Matel (Mendel KLAR), whose children
were Abraham or Hersch (1892), Leie (1895), Jacob (1898), and Samuel (1901);
Jacob (Pauline BORER) (1875), whose children were Chaie (1897), Simon (1901),
Bertha (1902), Fannie (KLEINMAN) (1904), and Sarah (1906); Malke (Abraham
REIG), whose children were Ruchel (1890), Itzik Dawid (1892), Marjem (1894),
Chane (1896), Leiser Mendel (1898), and Lea Jochewed (1900); Hersch (Klara
MINZER), whose children were Sara (1887), Isaak (1889), Max (1891), Stanislaw
(1893), Szyman (1896), and Ludwik (1899); and Charles (Helen) (1868), whose
children were Francis (1899), Olive (1901), Eric (1902), Gladys (1908), and Charles
(1911).

Thank you, in advance, for any information about these individuals, or their
descendants,that you can provide.

Susan S. Septimus
Bellaire, TX 77401
Phone: (713) 660-7899
Reply to septlaw@aol.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia SEPTIMUS Family #galicia

Septlaw@...
 

I am researching members of the SEPTIMUS family, who lived in the area known
as Boryslaw during the late-1800s, as documented in the Polish Records
Index. The patriarch of the Septimus family was Israel Lieb SEPTIMUS, who had the
following children with his first wife, name unknown: Nesia (Schneider),
Lea (Herzl Rothbaum), Solomon (my husband's grandfather), Matel (Mendel Klar),
Abish, and Jacob. When Israel's first wife died, he married her sister,
Nechume Rozenberg. Their union resulted in the following children: Benjamin,
Mendel, Isidore, Herman, Anna (Mitchell), Gitel (Green), and Mordechai. I have
located descendants of each of the children of Israel and Nechume SEPTIMUS.

I have not located descendants of the following SEPTIMUS family members
(with approximate years of birth, if known): Nesia (SCHNEIDER) (1867), whose
children were Sarah (Nathan GOLDBERG) (1895), Ruth (KLEIN), Pearl (PENNER), and
Joy; Lea (Herzl ROTHBAUM), whose children were Rubin (1888), Salomon (1893),
and Osias Majer or Max (Clara) (1893); Matel (Mendel KLAR), whose children
were Abraham or Hersch (1892), Leie (1895), Jacob (1898), and Samuel (1901);
Jacob (Pauline BORER) (1875), whose children were Chaie (1897), Simon (1901),
Bertha (1902), Fannie (KLEINMAN) (1904), and Sarah (1906); Malke (Abraham
REIG), whose children were Ruchel (1890), Itzik Dawid (1892), Marjem (1894),
Chane (1896), Leiser Mendel (1898), and Lea Jochewed (1900); Hersch (Klara
MINZER), whose children were Sara (1887), Isaak (1889), Max (1891), Stanislaw
(1893), Szyman (1896), and Ludwik (1899); and Charles (Helen) (1868), whose
children were Francis (1899), Olive (1901), Eric (1902), Gladys (1908), and Charles
(1911).

Thank you, in advance, for any information about these individuals, or their
descendants,that you can provide.

Susan S. Septimus
Bellaire, TX 77401
Phone: (713) 660-7899
Reply to septlaw@aol.com


Life in Galicia in the early 20th century #galicia

Arthurh <arthurh@...>
 

In response to the question of Michael B. Griffith about political and
social conditions in Galicia, you can find a description of the conditions
in the early 20th century Galicia in :-

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Klimontow/Klimontow.html

This gives an English translation of a booklet - Klimontow, My home as it
was, Once upon a time, written by Shmuel Goldwasser.

Best Wishes
Arthur Halpern
Holon, Israel


Lumber yard listing in a Directory? #galicia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

As I was reading the messages re Galicia Phone Directories, something came
to mind - a possible link to my maternal family - which I have neglected to
track down before.

As a child, I remember my maternal Grandmother [Clara AWNER [EHRENPREIS]
telling me stories of her Father's Lumber Yard.

My maternal Great-Grandparents, Leib{Lunek}AWNER [AVNER] and Udel [Adele]
[WECHSLER] AWNER [AVNER] remained in Lemburg with my Grandparent's siblings.

My Mother [Fanny EHERENPREIS], her siblings and my Grandparents emigrated
from Lemburg in 1900.
Is there a directory of any kind, available for that time period, which
could give me a clue as to the location [or other information] of the lumber
yard?
I hope someone can point me in the right direction!

Thank you.
Sylvia
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita, JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Researching: ABELMAN, AWNER, DOROGOI, EHRENPREIS, FRIEDHOFFER, FRUCHT,
FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, MELC, NUSINOV, LENT, SCHEINKEROVICH, WECHSLER.
Lithuania, Ukraine, Galicia, Israel, France, England, Argentina


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Life in Galicia in the early 20th century #galicia

Arthurh <arthurh@...>
 

In response to the question of Michael B. Griffith about political and
social conditions in Galicia, you can find a description of the conditions
in the early 20th century Galicia in :-

http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Klimontow/Klimontow.html

This gives an English translation of a booklet - Klimontow, My home as it
was, Once upon a time, written by Shmuel Goldwasser.

Best Wishes
Arthur Halpern
Holon, Israel


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Lumber yard listing in a Directory? #galicia

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

As I was reading the messages re Galicia Phone Directories, something came
to mind - a possible link to my maternal family - which I have neglected to
track down before.

As a child, I remember my maternal Grandmother [Clara AWNER [EHRENPREIS]
telling me stories of her Father's Lumber Yard.

My maternal Great-Grandparents, Leib{Lunek}AWNER [AVNER] and Udel [Adele]
[WECHSLER] AWNER [AVNER] remained in Lemburg with my Grandparent's siblings.

My Mother [Fanny EHERENPREIS], her siblings and my Grandparents emigrated
from Lemburg in 1900.
Is there a directory of any kind, available for that time period, which
could give me a clue as to the location [or other information] of the lumber
yard?
I hope someone can point me in the right direction!

Thank you.
Sylvia
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita, JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Researching: ABELMAN, AWNER, DOROGOI, EHRENPREIS, FRIEDHOFFER, FRUCHT,
FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, MELC, NUSINOV, LENT, SCHEINKEROVICH, WECHSLER.
Lithuania, Ukraine, Galicia, Israel, France, England, Argentina


Re: Philadelphia Cemeteries #general

Susan CHECKMAN <phillysuz@...>
 

Here is the address for a web page by the IAJGS - Cemetery Project. It hasan
incredible amount of information on Philadelphia-area Jewish cemeteries:

http://www2.jewishgen.org/cemetery/northamerica/philpa.html

Suzie Checkman
Philadelphia, PA

Any help with regard to possible Philadelphia Jewish cemeteries in use during
1908 to 1913 would be most appreciated.

Leonie Flack


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Philadelphia Cemeteries #general

Susan CHECKMAN <phillysuz@...>
 

Here is the address for a web page by the IAJGS - Cemetery Project. It hasan
incredible amount of information on Philadelphia-area Jewish cemeteries:

http://www2.jewishgen.org/cemetery/northamerica/philpa.html

Suzie Checkman
Philadelphia, PA

Any help with regard to possible Philadelphia Jewish cemeteries in use during
1908 to 1913 would be most appreciated.

Leonie Flack


Re: Rabbinical/Tribe Question (Adler, Halpern, Alber) #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Terri wrote:

1. Should I assume that if the Beider Poland Book lists a last name as
"Rabbinic", (examples of some names: Adler, Halpern, Alber), that the members of
these family were >from the Kohanim tribe?

2. In the 18th and 19th centuries, were there Rabbi who were Levy's and
Israelites? Or just Kohanim?

3. Should I, also, assume that there were Rabbi in the Adler, Halpern, and
Alber families that I am researching (18th and 19th century) or not necessarily?
Tom:

Rabbis are not priests. Anybody who studies can become a rabbi. That has been
the case ever since Rabbinic Judaism got started; in fact, that was part of the
whole point.

Your question #3 is best answered: "it depends."

What does it depend on?

a) location, location, location: what part of the world are we talking about?

b) date: had most Jews in that part of the world already taken surnames? Surname
adoption was mandated in much of Europe in the period 1787-1850. Before then,
most Jews used patronyms only (<name> ben/bat/bar <name>).

In the case of the three names you mention, I'd guess (and I mean, guess) that
ADLER was taken as a required surname more often than HALPERN or ALBER, the latter
of which was often a variant of the (often) Rabbinic name HALBERSTADT/HALBERSTAM.

In the event, there's a special mailing list just for rabbinic-genealogy issues.
It's called RavSIG.

Best,

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia and the occasional HALBERSTADT
***
MODERATOR NOTE:The Rabbinic Genealogy Special Interest Group (SIG) is a forum for
those interested in rabbinic genealogy or researching rabbinic ancestry within any
geographic area or time period. For more information, go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rabbinical/Tribe Question (Adler, Halpern, Alber) #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

Terri wrote:

1. Should I assume that if the Beider Poland Book lists a last name as
"Rabbinic", (examples of some names: Adler, Halpern, Alber), that the members of
these family were >from the Kohanim tribe?

2. In the 18th and 19th centuries, were there Rabbi who were Levy's and
Israelites? Or just Kohanim?

3. Should I, also, assume that there were Rabbi in the Adler, Halpern, and
Alber families that I am researching (18th and 19th century) or not necessarily?
Tom:

Rabbis are not priests. Anybody who studies can become a rabbi. That has been
the case ever since Rabbinic Judaism got started; in fact, that was part of the
whole point.

Your question #3 is best answered: "it depends."

What does it depend on?

a) location, location, location: what part of the world are we talking about?

b) date: had most Jews in that part of the world already taken surnames? Surname
adoption was mandated in much of Europe in the period 1787-1850. Before then,
most Jews used patronyms only (<name> ben/bat/bar <name>).

In the case of the three names you mention, I'd guess (and I mean, guess) that
ADLER was taken as a required surname more often than HALPERN or ALBER, the latter
of which was often a variant of the (often) Rabbinic name HALBERSTADT/HALBERSTAM.

In the event, there's a special mailing list just for rabbinic-genealogy issues.
It's called RavSIG.

Best,

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesia and the occasional HALBERSTADT
***
MODERATOR NOTE:The Rabbinic Genealogy Special Interest Group (SIG) is a forum for
those interested in rabbinic genealogy or researching rabbinic ancestry within any
geographic area or time period. For more information, go to:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Rabbinic/


Re: Trenton, NJ - Likely Cemetery #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

There's likely and there's likely. They could have purchased a plot in a society's
burial area and could be buried in Brooklyn! My grandparents lived their entire
lives in Brooklyn and are buried in Staten Island. Other relatives >from Bayonne NJ
are also buried in the same cemetery. My Bronx relatives are buried on Long Island
as are my Queens parents.

Baron Hirsch is a very large old cemetery (Staten Island) with many graves >from
that period and might not be a bad place to start.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Trenton, NJ - Likely Cemetery #general

ac <anitac47@...>
 

There's likely and there's likely. They could have purchased a plot in a society's
burial area and could be buried in Brooklyn! My grandparents lived their entire
lives in Brooklyn and are buried in Staten Island. Other relatives >from Bayonne NJ
are also buried in the same cemetery. My Bronx relatives are buried on Long Island
as are my Queens parents.

Baron Hirsch is a very large old cemetery (Staten Island) with many graves >from
that period and might not be a bad place to start.

Regards,
Anita Citron
Hicksville, NY


Re: Abe LINCOLN Update #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

HeyJudy123@aol.com wrote:

More research on my part would not have changed the fact that this rumor just
was printed--albeit expressly acknowledged as a rumor--in a major New York City
newspaper. And, speaking empirically, have any of you ever heard of man named
"Mordechai" who was not Jewish? There seems to be no dispute among scholars that
this really was Lincoln's great-grandfather's name.
Judy:

The New York Post is a major newspaper, I suppose, but it's also a major
sensationalistic rumormonger (big headline: _WMD!_ a year or so ago, then no
retraction). Yes, that's just my opinion.

As for the name "Mordechai", empirical research these days is easily carried out
at www.google.com or any of the general genealogy sites. Mordechai/Mordecai was
in fact a fairly common name among Anglo-Americans and others in earlier times.
One example: Mordecai Peter Centennial Brown, nicknamed "Miner" or
"Three-Finger", a Hall of Fame pitcher who was a member of the last Chicago Cubs
team to win the World Series (1908).

And before anyone accuses me of being off-topic, his catcher that year was Johnny
Kling, who *was* Jewish.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesian members of the Washington Senators


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Abe LINCOLN Update #general

Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
 

HeyJudy123@aol.com wrote:

More research on my part would not have changed the fact that this rumor just
was printed--albeit expressly acknowledged as a rumor--in a major New York City
newspaper. And, speaking empirically, have any of you ever heard of man named
"Mordechai" who was not Jewish? There seems to be no dispute among scholars that
this really was Lincoln's great-grandfather's name.
Judy:

The New York Post is a major newspaper, I suppose, but it's also a major
sensationalistic rumormonger (big headline: _WMD!_ a year or so ago, then no
retraction). Yes, that's just my opinion.

As for the name "Mordechai", empirical research these days is easily carried out
at www.google.com or any of the general genealogy sites. Mordechai/Mordecai was
in fact a fairly common name among Anglo-Americans and others in earlier times.
One example: Mordecai Peter Centennial Brown, nicknamed "Miner" or
"Three-Finger", a Hall of Fame pitcher who was a member of the last Chicago Cubs
team to win the World Series (1908).

And before anyone accuses me of being off-topic, his catcher that year was Johnny
Kling, who *was* Jewish.

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ
researching Upper Silesian members of the Washington Senators