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Civil Record: 2nd Polish Republic Period: Wilenski and Nowogrodzkie
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Adam Cherson
As most of are aware, >from about 1922 to 1939, parts of what we today
call Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine were administered by the Second Polish Republic (here is a map of the territory covered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Polish_Republic#/media/File:PolishRepublicAdminMap1930.png). [or https://tinyurl.com/y8qz6hbt --Mod.] My question is about the civil records pertaining to this period. Since answers may vary depending on location, I am most interested in the provinces (aka voivodeships) called Wilenski (Vilna) and Nowogrodzkie (Navahrudak). When someone Jewish was born, was married, or died >from 1922-1939 in these two provinces, presumably a civil record was created. Where were these records housed back then and where are they today? Adam Cherson New York
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Civil Record: 2nd Polish Republic Period: Wilenski and Nowogrodzkie
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Adam Cherson
As most of are aware, >from about 1922 to 1939, parts of what we today
call Lithuania, Belarus, and Ukraine were administered by the Second Polish Republic (here is a map of the territory covered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Polish_Republic#/media/File:PolishRepublicAdminMap1930.png). [or https://tinyurl.com/y8qz6hbt --Mod.] My question is about the civil records pertaining to this period. Since answers may vary depending on location, I am most interested in the provinces (aka voivodeships) called Wilenski (Vilna) and Nowogrodzkie (Navahrudak). When someone Jewish was born, was married, or died >from 1922-1939 in these two provinces, presumably a civil record was created. Where were these records housed back then and where are they today? Adam Cherson New York
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Re: 1895-1900 marriage record
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A. E. Jordan
Could they have married in Ohio? Where do you think they lived in
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the late 1890s? Who did she live with prior to her marriage? It is not impossible that the marriage went unregistered in NYC ... I have seen examples of that .... but also consider the options that it was not in NYC. Maybe they eloped? It happened even in the 1890s. Or it might have been a religious ceremony and the Rabbi forgot to file the paper work or the names are so mangled that you are not finding them. I would try some of the other permutations or try wildcard searching on the names. You can try dropping the vowels, try ending in NIK or NICK to NIC or try dropping the S or the C or ..... Allan Jordan
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From: Evan Fishman I'm unable to find a marriage record for a Nathan SCHOLNIK and Bessie BERNSTEIN, perhaps in New York City, between 1895-1900. According to the 1910 U.S. census they had been married 12 years. Their oldest son was 10 years old then, born in Ohio.
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Re: 1895-1900 marriage record
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Jeremy Shahom <jshahom@...>
Hi Evan,
I may have found the record you are looking for in Manhattan on 02 July 1898. Here is a direct link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZF-MWJ By the way, I used a lot of wildcards to help me find it: First Names: n* Last Names: s*ln* Birth Year: 1873 - 1885 Marriage Year: 1885 - 1905 Spouse Last Name: Bernstein The link above was the first result shown using those criteria Hope this helps. Jeremy Shahom New York, NY On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:13 PM Evan Fishman ebf2001@comcast.net <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
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requesting copy of NYC marriage record
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philafrum
I'd greatly appreciate if someone could make a copy of a marriage record
for me: Nehemia (Mahemia) Schkulnik + Becki Bornstein July 2, 1898 Manhattan Certificate #10597 I don't need a certified copy. Please contact me before going to the Municipal Archives. Thanks. Evan Fishman
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1895-1900 marriage record
#general
A. E. Jordan
Could they have married in Ohio? Where do you think they lived in
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
the late 1890s? Who did she live with prior to her marriage? It is not impossible that the marriage went unregistered in NYC ... I have seen examples of that .... but also consider the options that it was not in NYC. Maybe they eloped? It happened even in the 1890s. Or it might have been a religious ceremony and the Rabbi forgot to file the paper work or the names are so mangled that you are not finding them. I would try some of the other permutations or try wildcard searching on the names. You can try dropping the vowels, try ending in NIK or NICK to NIC or try dropping the S or the C or ..... Allan Jordan
-----Original Message-----
From: Evan Fishman I'm unable to find a marriage record for a Nathan SCHOLNIK and Bessie BERNSTEIN, perhaps in New York City, between 1895-1900. According to the 1910 U.S. census they had been married 12 years. Their oldest son was 10 years old then, born in Ohio.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1895-1900 marriage record
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Jeremy Shahom <jshahom@...>
Hi Evan,
I may have found the record you are looking for in Manhattan on 02 July 1898. Here is a direct link: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZF-MWJ By the way, I used a lot of wildcards to help me find it: First Names: n* Last Names: s*ln* Birth Year: 1873 - 1885 Marriage Year: 1885 - 1905 Spouse Last Name: Bernstein The link above was the first result shown using those criteria Hope this helps. Jeremy Shahom New York, NY On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 8:13 PM Evan Fishman ebf2001@comcast.net <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen requesting copy of NYC marriage record
#general
philafrum
I'd greatly appreciate if someone could make a copy of a marriage record
for me: Nehemia (Mahemia) Schkulnik + Becki Bornstein July 2, 1898 Manhattan Certificate #10597 I don't need a certified copy. Please contact me before going to the Municipal Archives. Thanks. Evan Fishman
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Need Photos of Radzivilov
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ninaschw
Does anyone out there have an old family photo of the former Radziwillow (Radzivilov) Poland, now Radyvyliv, Ukraine?
I am a graphic designer working with JewishGen on a new English translation of the Yizkor Book Memorial Book of Radzivilov. I am working on the cover design, and would like, if possible, to use a photo of Jewish life in Radziwillow anywhere between 1905 and 1942. I'm looking for a photo that would include something of the city, such as a house, farm, school, synagogue, study house, shop, clubhouse, etc. I'm afraid I cannot offer payment - it is a volunteer project - but you would receive a prominent photo credit, and any website or contact information you prefer.If this would be all right, please let me know at artstop@impulsegraphics.com. (The old photo would be needed in high resolution, at least 600 dots per inch at the original photo size.) Many thanks in advance for your kind help. Nina Schwartz
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Need Photos of Radzivilov
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ninaschw
Does anyone out there have an old family photo of the former Radziwillow (Radzivilov) Poland, now Radyvyliv, Ukraine?
I am a graphic designer working with JewishGen on a new English translation of the Yizkor Book Memorial Book of Radzivilov. I am working on the cover design, and would like, if possible, to use a photo of Jewish life in Radziwillow anywhere between 1905 and 1942. I'm looking for a photo that would include something of the city, such as a house, farm, school, synagogue, study house, shop, clubhouse, etc. I'm afraid I cannot offer payment - it is a volunteer project - but you would receive a prominent photo credit, and any website or contact information you prefer.If this would be all right, please let me know at artstop@impulsegraphics.com. (The old photo would be needed in high resolution, at least 600 dots per inch at the original photo size.) Many thanks in advance for your kind help. Nina Schwartz
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Re: requesting copy of NYC marriage record
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David Oseas <doseas{nospam}@...>
On 7/19/2018 4:07 AM, Evan Fishman ebf2001@comcast.net wrote:
Nehemia (Mahemia) Schkulnik + Becki BornsteinEvan, the microfilm (FHL 1504029) containing that marriage record has been digitized and can be accessed for free at your local Family History Center (https://www.familysearch.org/locations/): https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007587051 Regards, David Oseas Researching: HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York; SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles MODERATOR NOTE: Remove {nospam} to reply privately.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: requesting copy of NYC marriage record
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David Oseas <doseas{nospam}@...>
On 7/19/2018 4:07 AM, Evan Fishman ebf2001@comcast.net wrote:
Nehemia (Mahemia) Schkulnik + Becki BornsteinEvan, the microfilm (FHL 1504029) containing that marriage record has been digitized and can be accessed for free at your local Family History Center (https://www.familysearch.org/locations/): https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007587051 Regards, David Oseas Researching: HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York; SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania > New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles MODERATOR NOTE: Remove {nospam} to reply privately.
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Hungarian translation help needed
#hungary
I have posted a family postcard >from 1916 that I could use some help translating. I get the basic gist of it but canâ??t really tell who itâ??s to and who itâ??s from.
Can someone who reads Hungarian script please help me with this? http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68725 Thanks so much, Stefani Twyford www.legacymultimedia.com <snip> Moderator: Please use Viewmate to respond.
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian translation help needed
#hungary
I have posted a family postcard >from 1916 that I could use some help translating. I get the basic gist of it but canâ??t really tell who itâ??s to and who itâ??s from.
Can someone who reads Hungarian script please help me with this? http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68725 Thanks so much, Stefani Twyford www.legacymultimedia.com <snip> Moderator: Please use Viewmate to respond.
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Re: Yellow Star houses - h-sig digest: July 16, 2018
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ritamandl@...
Dear Judy and Susan I have recently received electronically >from Hungary th=
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e following book. Ingrid Carlberg Raoul Wallenberg The biography With an Introduction by Kofi= a. annan Translated >from the Swedish by=C2=A0 Ebba Segerberg. In it the subject of the Yellow Star houses as well as the "protected" (ved= et) houses are clearly explained, how they were organized and by whom. My c= ousin Gabor Forgacs colaborated with the author and he had personal knowled= ge and experience about this time in history. I highly recommend the book t= o anyone who would like to understand "what went on" in 1944 as well as how= Ralph Wallenberg organized and rescued many, including my parents, myself. Rita Mandl
-----Original Message-----From: Judy Young-Drache judyyoung@drache.ca To: H=
-SIG Sent: Wed, Jul 18, 2018 12:15 amSubject: RE:[h-sig] Yellow Star houses= - h-sig digest: July 16, 2018(I am replying to the list as I think this m= ay be of interest to some others as well, or some others can provide additi= onal information that would be useful to others.)Dear Michele,You make a st= atement that is not quite correct: "this is not a Yellow Star house, but ra= ther, Jews who are required to wear the Yellow Star are not permitted to li= ve here" It's a little more complicated than that: it appears that Jews who= had to wear the yellow star were in fact allowed to live in there. The doc= ument lists all residents in the house by ownership or whether they are the= main renters of the apartment. There is only one owner (who it seems owns = the building) and she is not required to wear the yellow star. But of the r= enters, there are two (including your grandfather) who are required to wea= r the yellow star (ie. they are Jews). (And two apartments are empty becau= se the owners have been "removed" - either forcibly moved out or had been a= sked/told to leave.) There is no date that I can see on the document (just= the year 1944) or any mention of whether the house was designated a yellow= star house or not. As far as I know, >from about the middle of June 1944 th= e city of Budapest designated certain apartment buildings in which only Jew= s were supposed to live and these became known as Yellow Star houses becaus= e a yellow star had to be fixed on the outside of the building. (This was p= art of an effort to concentrate Jews for an eventual further deportation af= ter the countryside was emptied of its Jews - this of course did not happen= anymore as the Allies were beginning to win the war). But there were othe= r buildings in which Jews lived and some of these also became known as Ye= llow Star houses. Obviously it was a complicated thing to check and supervi= se all buildings as to how many Jews lived in them and some could "hide" th= eir Jewishness; although the authorities made an effort to find out - and = that is why such forms as this one had to be filled in (interesting that th= ey did not have to write on the form "Jew" but instead whether they had to = wear the star or not...). The concierges had the role of declaring if the = tenants were required to wear the yellow star (all Jews had to) or not. So = some Jews were able to avoid being "detected" as Jews; they could bribe the= concierge, etc. Your grandfather and family may have been able to hide fo= r the remainder of the war (and of course it made little difference that th= ey had converted...).There is a fair amount of information about the Yellow= Star houses (and some has been shared on this list, eg the Open Society Ar= chives had a project in 2014 with a list, map, and the history of these hou= ses. ) By the way, Jews living in Yellow Star houses had to move into the= Budapest ghetto in November of 1944 (the Hungarian Arrow Cross government = which came to power in mid October 1944 was still hoping to get rid of the = remaining Jews and killed many thousands of them between October and the l= iberation of Budapest in Feb 1945).Hope you find more information...Best,Ju= dyJudy Young Drache,Ottawa
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Yellow Star houses - h-sig digest: July 16, 2018
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ritamandl@...
Dear Judy and Susan I have recently received electronically >from Hungary th=
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e following book. Ingrid Carlberg Raoul Wallenberg The biography With an Introduction by Kofi= a. annan Translated >from the Swedish by=C2=A0 Ebba Segerberg. In it the subject of the Yellow Star houses as well as the "protected" (ved= et) houses are clearly explained, how they were organized and by whom. My c= ousin Gabor Forgacs colaborated with the author and he had personal knowled= ge and experience about this time in history. I highly recommend the book t= o anyone who would like to understand "what went on" in 1944 as well as how= Ralph Wallenberg organized and rescued many, including my parents, myself. Rita Mandl
-----Original Message-----From: Judy Young-Drache judyyoung@drache.ca To: H=
-SIG Sent: Wed, Jul 18, 2018 12:15 amSubject: RE:[h-sig] Yellow Star houses= - h-sig digest: July 16, 2018(I am replying to the list as I think this m= ay be of interest to some others as well, or some others can provide additi= onal information that would be useful to others.)Dear Michele,You make a st= atement that is not quite correct: "this is not a Yellow Star house, but ra= ther, Jews who are required to wear the Yellow Star are not permitted to li= ve here" It's a little more complicated than that: it appears that Jews who= had to wear the yellow star were in fact allowed to live in there. The doc= ument lists all residents in the house by ownership or whether they are the= main renters of the apartment. There is only one owner (who it seems owns = the building) and she is not required to wear the yellow star. But of the r= enters, there are two (including your grandfather) who are required to wea= r the yellow star (ie. they are Jews). (And two apartments are empty becau= se the owners have been "removed" - either forcibly moved out or had been a= sked/told to leave.) There is no date that I can see on the document (just= the year 1944) or any mention of whether the house was designated a yellow= star house or not. As far as I know, >from about the middle of June 1944 th= e city of Budapest designated certain apartment buildings in which only Jew= s were supposed to live and these became known as Yellow Star houses becaus= e a yellow star had to be fixed on the outside of the building. (This was p= art of an effort to concentrate Jews for an eventual further deportation af= ter the countryside was emptied of its Jews - this of course did not happen= anymore as the Allies were beginning to win the war). But there were othe= r buildings in which Jews lived and some of these also became known as Ye= llow Star houses. Obviously it was a complicated thing to check and supervi= se all buildings as to how many Jews lived in them and some could "hide" th= eir Jewishness; although the authorities made an effort to find out - and = that is why such forms as this one had to be filled in (interesting that th= ey did not have to write on the form "Jew" but instead whether they had to = wear the star or not...). The concierges had the role of declaring if the = tenants were required to wear the yellow star (all Jews had to) or not. So = some Jews were able to avoid being "detected" as Jews; they could bribe the= concierge, etc. Your grandfather and family may have been able to hide fo= r the remainder of the war (and of course it made little difference that th= ey had converted...).There is a fair amount of information about the Yellow= Star houses (and some has been shared on this list, eg the Open Society Ar= chives had a project in 2014 with a list, map, and the history of these hou= ses. ) By the way, Jews living in Yellow Star houses had to move into the= Budapest ghetto in November of 1944 (the Hungarian Arrow Cross government = which came to power in mid October 1944 was still hoping to get rid of the = remaining Jews and killed many thousands of them between October and the l= iberation of Budapest in Feb 1945).Hope you find more information...Best,Ju= dyJudy Young Drache,Ottawa
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Records from Paszika (aka Pasika, Kishidveg) for Salzberger
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Moishe Miller
Hello Fellow Researchers,
Based on the successful translation of my Viewmate 68618 (thanks for the multiple posts and emails!), I have learned that my SALZBERGER ancestor that was living in Munkacz (Mukachevo, Ukraine today) in 1872 was originally >from Paszika (possibly Pasika, Kishidveg), where she was born. The details I now know are that my g-g-gm Toni (Toba Etel) Salzberger (married as a widow to Israel Schwimmer in 1872 when she was 32) was the daughter of Josef and Chaje Szure Salzberger. She was born about 1840 in Paszika. Would anyone know if Jewish records exists for Paszika? In a prior email to me, Peter Absalon made reference to the 1877 Dvorzsak gazetteer which mentioned the vital records for Paszika were archived in Szolyva. I would like to find: * Toni's first marriage * if records exist, an 1848 census record with her parents * Toni's birth record >from 1840 * Toni's parent's marriage, presumably in the 1830's or earlier * The death records of Josef Salzberger and Chaje Szure Salzberger, Toni's parents, probably sometime in the late 1800's Can anyone share thoughts or ideas for further research on this matter? (for your reference, the marriage record is at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68618) Thank you! Moishe Miller Brooklyn, NY moishe.miller@totalben.com
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Records from Paszika (aka Pasika, Kishidveg) for Salzberger
#hungary
Moishe Miller
Hello Fellow Researchers,
Based on the successful translation of my Viewmate 68618 (thanks for the multiple posts and emails!), I have learned that my SALZBERGER ancestor that was living in Munkacz (Mukachevo, Ukraine today) in 1872 was originally >from Paszika (possibly Pasika, Kishidveg), where she was born. The details I now know are that my g-g-gm Toni (Toba Etel) Salzberger (married as a widow to Israel Schwimmer in 1872 when she was 32) was the daughter of Josef and Chaje Szure Salzberger. She was born about 1840 in Paszika. Would anyone know if Jewish records exists for Paszika? In a prior email to me, Peter Absalon made reference to the 1877 Dvorzsak gazetteer which mentioned the vital records for Paszika were archived in Szolyva. I would like to find: * Toni's first marriage * if records exist, an 1848 census record with her parents * Toni's birth record >from 1840 * Toni's parent's marriage, presumably in the 1830's or earlier * The death records of Josef Salzberger and Chaje Szure Salzberger, Toni's parents, probably sometime in the late 1800's Can anyone share thoughts or ideas for further research on this matter? (for your reference, the marriage record is at http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM68618) Thank you! Moishe Miller Brooklyn, NY moishe.miller@totalben.com
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Jennifer Broughton <jen_b892@...>
A relative of mine, Nuchem Juda Granat, is buried in Section GV of the
Lodz New Cemetery. He died on 19th July 1941, nearly 77 years ago. Is this section part of the "Ghetto Field" mentioned in Roni Liebowitz's description of the cemetery at http://data.jewishgen.org/imagedata/jowbr/POL-03068/lodz.html ? Jennifer Broughton Researching: ROSENBERG: Sadowa/Kiev, Russia, JOSEPH/S: Zgierz/Notting Hill, GRANAT/GRANARD: Tomaszow/Portsmouth, ROSENBLUM: Plock
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Jennifer Broughton <jen_b892@...>
A relative of mine, Nuchem Juda Granat, is buried in Section GV of the
Lodz New Cemetery. He died on 19th July 1941, nearly 77 years ago. Is this section part of the "Ghetto Field" mentioned in Roni Liebowitz's description of the cemetery at http://data.jewishgen.org/imagedata/jowbr/POL-03068/lodz.html ? Jennifer Broughton Researching: ROSENBERG: Sadowa/Kiev, Russia, JOSEPH/S: Zgierz/Notting Hill, GRANAT/GRANARD: Tomaszow/Portsmouth, ROSENBLUM: Plock
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