Re: CORRECTION Re: Help deciphering a town name on passenger Manifest #records #ukraine

Yefim Kogan

Hello David,  I think it should be Nezhin, Chernigov oblast  (It is more of East-NorthEast of Kiev)

Yefim Kogan

Locating a Passengers (Harry & Fanny Harris) Arriving in the US at the Eve of WWI #usa #general #hungary #records #slovakia

Moishe Miller


I am hoping someone might offer a suggestion or assistance in finding the arrival of a couple to the US. 

Harry (Tzvi / Hersh) Harris, born 1891 in Scranton, PA, was a student at the yeshiva in Carlsbad (today known as Karlovy Vary in the Czech Republic). He married in August of 1914, probably in Zalacska (Zalužice), Slovakia, to Fanny (Feiga / Faigy) Handler, daughter of Moshe Handler and Malka Greunfeld (Malks'a family was from Michalovce, Slovakia). 

It appears that there was some type of notice issued by the USA advising all citizens abroad to return home due to the currents of WWI. Both Harry and Fanny did return, perhaps not together. What I do know is:
  1. As per attached, Harry petitioned for an Emergency Passport Application in Dec 1914, in Budapest.
  2. Fanny gave birth to Philip E. Harris on 4 Jul 1915 in Scranton, Pennsylvania
So, I know that sometime after the August 1914 wedding and the Jul 1915 birth, Fanny immigrated to the USA. I can not find a ship manifest at any port showing the couple's US arrival, not individually or together. I even tried looking for a WWII-time citizenship petition for Fanny, which would include when and where she arrived, but I do not find one of those either. For those that want to look, I have far more detail on this family on a family tree at Ancestry (

Would anyone have suggestions about finding their early World War I arrival manifests?

Thank you,

Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
JGFF #3391

Ivano-Frankivsk. holocaust #holocaust


In connection with the World Memory Project, the United States Holocaust
Memorial Museum has added 20,588 new name records to the Holocaust Survivors
and Victims Database (HSV) taken from the collection Ivano-Frankivsk State Oblast Archives records.  This collection contains applications for the issuing of identification documents for the citizens of Stanislav between the years 1929 and 1939.  You can request and immediately receive digital
copies of the original documents in your email.  Search
Peter Lande
Washington, D.C.

Re: Hamburg ship lists #unitedkingdom #records #lithuania


Hi Shirley,

Indirect vs. Direct Passage

If your ancestor arrived in Hull, they traveled the indirect route to the USA, and if they're in the Hamburg indexes, it will be in the Indirect Lists. The Hamburg-Amerika Line operated solely from the port of Hamburg. Arriving English passenger lists from the continental (domestic) trade are relatively nonexistent. The British Board of Trade only maintained passenger lists for international/transoceanic voyages. If your ancestors naturalized in the USA (after 1906), you may be able to obtain those records and possibly learn of the ship on which they sailed from England.

The other German port city during the age of the great migration was Bremen, and the shipping line operating from there was the Norddeutscher Lloyd (NDL). Bremen was heavily fire-bombed during WWII and the majority of the passenger lists from Bremen were destroyed.

Best of luck in your search,
David Passman
Dallas, Texas

Re: Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #records #general


I use the married surname and the primary and then enter the maiden name in the "Nee" field I created in Family Tree Maker.  There are just too many women in my trees to keep up with unfamiliar maiden names, especially for women who married into the family. 

Herschel Sheiness San Antonio, Tx

understanding Russian language passport #belarus #russia #translation

Jeremy Lefkowitz

Recently got an image of my great-grandfather's brother's 1893 Russian passport (included as an attachment here) from a distant cousin.  The Russian appears to refer to the following:

the "borough" of “Swinziansky” 
“county of Vilna”
the “Swir” "jewish community"
“Michael Shimelevitch Kaplan”

But I would very much appreciate assistance with translating and/or with identifying any of the places, aside from Vilna, which is not difficult :) 

Jeremy Lefkowitz

Your experience on two topics of genealogy #general

Daniel Horowitz

Hi all, 
In preparation for a couple of presentations I would like to ask all genealogist out there for their personal experience on 2 different subjects:
* Documents, records, tombstones or else used to research your genealogy that ended having fake (or not so accurate) information.
* Crazy things you have done while researching your family.
Please reply privately with the story, images and your agreement for me to use the information with or without real names.

Best regards
Daniel Horowitz

file saved from the fire in the Kaminets Podilsk archive - 1811 K-P census #ukraine

Gary Pokrassa

Alex Krakovsky has just posted an important file saved from the fire in the Kaminets Podilsk archive - 1811 K-P census currently residing in the Khmelnitsky archives - see attached 
Gary Pokrassa
Data Acquisition Director
Ukraine Research Division

Re: Need Help to Understand the Lodz Ghetto List #poland

Odeda Zlotnick

New Project: Bucharest Burial Register (1930-1980) #romania #JewishGenUpdates

Michael Moritz

New Bucharest Cemetery Records Project (ca. 1930-1980)

I'm excited to announce that the JewishGen Romania Research Division has acquired images of the seemingly complete burial register of Bucharest's Giurgiului Jewish Cemetery, the largest of the three Jewish cemeteries in Bucharest and the second largest in Romania, from the 

The Central Archives for the History of the Jewish People

. The cemetery was inaugurated in 1929-1930 and contains about 35,000-40,000 graves, some of which belong to the victims of the Holocaust and Jewish soldiers.

Help! We need volunteers to transcribe these records! Please take a look at the images, which contain both handwritten Romanian script, and on the earlier records, Hebrew as well. If you are interested in helping and comfortable with this handwriting, please fill out our volunteer form here (identify if you can transcribe the Romanian only, Hebrew only, or both):

And a reminder that acquisitions such as this are not possible without the help of your support, as we are all volunteers! You can contribute here to Romania projects (the Romania General Fund will go to all acquisitions):

I am not doing look-ups at the moment. These records are organized by section, not alphabetically nor chronologically, so it is not possible to easily locate someone in these hundreds of pages.

Michael Moritz
Director, Romania Research Division

Re: List of Victims of Babi Yar? #ukraine #holocaust

Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock

Thank you for posting those, especially the first. I can read some Russian/Ukrainian and have saved the links.
! had not seen the victims laid out like that before in family groups with the ages.

As the Germans approached Kiev, the Russian army withdrew.  Russian men of military age had gone with the army, leaving their wives and children behind. 
It is heartbreaking here to see the groups of a mother or grandmother with young children listed as victims, just as described in Grossman's Black Book.

Evelyn Wilcock

Re: ABRAMOWITZ of Novarodok-19th cent. #names


There are four translated revision lists for Nesvizh (60 km away), spanning 1834 to 1879.  If revision lists exist for Nesvizh, it seems plausible that they also exist for other shtetls in the region, like Nowogrudek (Novaradok). 

The Yizkor book for Nowogrudek includes about 30 perished Jews named Abramowitz.  The name index is at the back of the book.  The book also includes an equally long list of Abramowitz who lived in Nowogrudek and another list of Abramowitz citizens in Korelitz.  The century is not entirely correct for your search, but some of these people would have been born in the 19th century.

Korelitz (Karelichy, 15 km away) had many Abramowitz.  Korelitz survivor Yaakov Abramowitz's (z'l) daughter in Israel has personal records, including photographs, one of which included my great uncle.  I reached Yaakov's daughter through researcher Ann Belinsky in Israel, who edited the Yizkor book for Korelitz.  (The Korelitz Yizkor book does not have a list of names...the Korelitz names are listed in the Nowogrudek Yizkor book.)

Nowogrudek is known for the tunnel that Jews dug to escape the ghetto.  Most of those who survived this daring escape joined the Bielski Partisans.  Commemorating this, there is a Jewish Resistance Museum in Nowogrudek.  The museum director is Tamara Vershitskaya.  Tamara surprises me with the information that she has collected.  She found the abandoned farm where my grandmother was born.  Maybe Tamara has a surprise for you?  If there are Abramowitz descendants from Nowogrudek, Tamara may know them.

Jack Kagan (z'l) was a survivor of Nowogrudek and he was instrumental in preserving records for Nowogrudek.  This included authoring a book about Nowogrudek.  I corresponded with his daughter a year or two ago.  She may be another search venue for you.

If you need help contacting these people, let me know privately.  I am reluctant to post personal contact information in a public forum.

Ken Domeshek - Houston

Damesek - Nesvizh
Braverman - Nesvizh
Kartorzynski - Korelitz, Nowogrudek, Negnewicze
Sinienski - Negnewicze, Wsielub, Lyubcha
Simonowitz - Negnewicze

Re: Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #records #general

sharon yampell

I have found numerous variations of certain last names that run through my tree.  What I do, even for those so far back who really did not have last names, I put what I knew was the original last name once someone had one and then put each descendant with the version they chose to use…


For example, if the oldest ancestor is your ?x great grandfather, then he would be ?x great grandfather Schwartz but if later descendants use Schwarz or Shwartz, then I put those as their last name…I put the original last name for the oldest family member for consistency and to so those looking at my tree, will know where the variations may have originated.


Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, New Jersey


From: Kenneth Ryesky
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 6:59 AM
To: main@...
Subject: Re: [] Preferred naming conventions/approaches for family trees #general #records


Never mind marriages!  In my family tree I have name changes by adoption.  But never mind them, either; I also have court-approved gender changes in my family tree (judges are not necessarily biologists, and do not necessarily conform to biological laws).
Ken Ryesky,  Petach Tikva, Israel     kenneth.ryesky@... 

GERTZIG, BRODSKY; Yelizavetgrad, Ukraine
IZRAELSON, ARSHENOV; Yevpatoriya, Ukraine (Crimea)


Free access to UK census records this weekend #records

N. Summers

Just learned about this free offer from FindMyPast:

All UK census records are free this weekend

All of Findmypast’s British census records (1841-1911) are completely
free to access from 10:00 (BST) on 30 April until 3 May. Amazing
snapshots of the past, census records can help you trace your family
tree, generation by generation.

As I have no relatives in the UK, I have not tried it, but it seems like
a good resource. Happy Hunting!

Wolyn_, Russia _>Radzyliv_, Ukraine; _Ostroh_, Rivne, Poland>_Ostrog_,
_Rovno_, Ukraine; _Wolinsky_, Russia> _Ostrog_, _Volyn_,
Ukraine).*SAGORODER/ZAGORODER *(_Radziwillow_, Belarus/Ukraine; _Tel
Aviv_, Palestine / Israel).*LISS > ALPER*(_Motol_, _Vilyna_, _Pinsk_,
_Minsk, _Russia/Belarus)

Nancy Summers

Maryland, USA


FINKELSTEIN, BOOKSTEIN, KOENIG/SUKOENIG, LUSMAN, GOLDINER, SAGORODER/ZAGORODER (Radziwillow, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Poland/Belarus; Warsaw, Poland; Wolinsky, Russia/Ukraine)

LISS / ALPER  (Motol, Russia/Belarus)

LEAF / LIFSCHITZ ( Rechitsa, Belarus)

Re: Help deciphering a town name on passenger Manifest #records #ukraine


"Jekatronoslaw" = Ekaterinoslav

Best regards,
Stanislav Gorbulev
Mainz, Germany

Re: Idel Weingarten - Scotland - buried in Glenduffhill Cemetery #unitedkingdom #general

rv Kaplan

Dear Ronit

The Scottish Jewish Archives Centre in Glasgow can help you with enquiries like this.  We have records of most Jews who have lived in Scotland.

You can contact us at:

best wishes

Harvey Kaplan
Scottish Jewish Archives Centre

Ronnit Kessler rkessler831@... via 

12:52 (15 minutes ago)
to main
My name is Ronnit Kessler.  I recently learned from my father, a Holocaust survivor that he had an uncle, from his mother's side, who lived in Scotland.  By googling his name I found the following:
I would love to find any of his living relatives.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ronnit Kessler

Re: List of Victims of Babi Yar? #ukraine #holocaust


Hi David,

The lists can be found here:

It is mentioned that the lists may not be complete.
What are the first/last names that you are looking for?

Elena Boldyreva,
Toronto, Canada,
Searching for Rogovins from Shatsk, Minsk

Re: Need Help to Understand the Lodz Ghetto List #poland

Harry Kleinbourg

Bonjour Bernard (I live in Levallois so not very far away from Paris) !

I continue in english as we are in a worldwilde mailing list.

I just wanted to thank for your reply and all the info.

I understood that a lot of people had been deportated from Lodz ghuetto to Chemlo and directly murdered by gaz there.

It seems that Auschwitz was another deportation destination.

Do you know whether any other death camp were used as a deportation destination from Lodz Guetto?
And is there any chance to find any documents about prisonners in Auschwitz who had been deported in 1942?

Best Regards,

Harry Kleinbourg

Re: "first name known, unknown last name in New Jersey"--Update #usa

marlene finkelstein

My google search found William & Judith Goldberg in NJ Federal Bankruptcy court with the last update 7/30/2020. They are probably not in any state of mind to respond to you. 
Marlene Finkelstein

Idel Weingarten - Scotland - buried in Glenduffhill Cemetery #unitedkingdom #general

Ronnit Kessler

My name is Ronnit Kessler.  I recently learned from my father, a Holocaust survivor that he had an uncle, from his mother's side, who lived in Scotland.  By googling his name I found the following:
I would love to find any of his living relatives.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Ronnit Kessler

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