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ROSEN; Oak Park/Chicago, IL; 1920's on
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Tim Baker <tbaker@...>
Looking for descendants of Elmer ROSEN or
Irving ROSEN, born around 1917 and 1918 respectively, in Chicago, Illinois. Sons of Abel and Sophia ROSEN. Grandsons of Ruben ROSEN, >from Schuchin, Russia and listed as a rabbi in the 1920 Cook County IL census, and Sophia ROSEN >from Taviski or Ctaviski, Russia. Elmer Rosen passed away in 1988. JGFF already consulted. Tim Baker Bellingham WA tbaker@zenderthurston.com SULOWAY; GAIL; BRANSON, ROSEN; FUCHS/FOX; WINEFIELD; Chicago, IL MODERATOR NOTE: The above mentioned JGFF can be found at: www.jewishgen.org/jgff
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ROSEN; Oak Park/Chicago, IL; 1920's on
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Tim Baker <tbaker@...>
Looking for descendants of Elmer ROSEN or
Irving ROSEN, born around 1917 and 1918 respectively, in Chicago, Illinois. Sons of Abel and Sophia ROSEN. Grandsons of Ruben ROSEN, >from Schuchin, Russia and listed as a rabbi in the 1920 Cook County IL census, and Sophia ROSEN >from Taviski or Ctaviski, Russia. Elmer Rosen passed away in 1988. JGFF already consulted. Tim Baker Bellingham WA tbaker@zenderthurston.com SULOWAY; GAIL; BRANSON, ROSEN; FUCHS/FOX; WINEFIELD; Chicago, IL MODERATOR NOTE: The above mentioned JGFF can be found at: www.jewishgen.org/jgff
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Re: No Names, No Places ....
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Dick Plotz
Ben Forman wrote:
For years I've been searching for some detail onBut "furman" means carter (think Fuhrmann), not tailor. It was probably the original name in Poland, most likely a part of Poland under German rule (there was no independent country of Poland until after the war), given the 1901 census data. Dick Plotz Providence RI USA
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Masha or Moussia
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Rafael Gordon <rafail@...>
Dear genners,
Masha and Moussia, as well as Mura, are derivatives of the full Russian name Maria. Jews who lived in Russia often gave their children Russian names that later became common. Leah Gordon New York
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: No Names, No Places ....
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Dick Plotz
Ben Forman wrote:
For years I've been searching for some detail onBut "furman" means carter (think Fuhrmann), not tailor. It was probably the original name in Poland, most likely a part of Poland under German rule (there was no independent country of Poland until after the war), given the 1901 census data. Dick Plotz Providence RI USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Masha or Moussia
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Rafael Gordon <rafail@...>
Dear genners,
Masha and Moussia, as well as Mura, are derivatives of the full Russian name Maria. Jews who lived in Russia often gave their children Russian names that later became common. Leah Gordon New York
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Re: When Can Immigrants Change Name?
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Dick Plotz
Joanne Saltman wrote:
At least one of my ancestors just picked a new name after he came here-theThat's not much of a change. "Slotnik" is >from a Slavic root meaning "gold". It may reflect vanity, or a family occupation, or it may be a matronymic, from Zlata, the Slavic form of Golda.Dick Plotz Providence RI USA
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: When Can Immigrants Change Name?
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Dick Plotz
Joanne Saltman wrote:
At least one of my ancestors just picked a new name after he came here-theThat's not much of a change. "Slotnik" is >from a Slavic root meaning "gold". It may reflect vanity, or a family occupation, or it may be a matronymic, from Zlata, the Slavic form of Golda.Dick Plotz Providence RI USA
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Ideas for No Place, No names
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Steven Bloom <sbloom@...>
A quick look at the JRI-Poland database shows a large number of Furmans,
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all over Poland, but not utterly huge. You should certainly look at the indices on this site just to see if any names or places seem familiar. The biggest groupings seem to be in Bialystok and Ciechanow, but there are other clusters elsewhere. Its more likely they came from Poland (considering the timing), but i'd check whatever records exist for Germany as well (links >from jewishgen.org). I know its a shot in the dark, but often a combination of hard work and luck converts such shots into real success. Steven D. Bloom email: sbloom@email.hsc.edu
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ideas for No Place, No names
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Steven Bloom <sbloom@...>
A quick look at the JRI-Poland database shows a large number of Furmans,
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all over Poland, but not utterly huge. You should certainly look at the indices on this site just to see if any names or places seem familiar. The biggest groupings seem to be in Bialystok and Ciechanow, but there are other clusters elsewhere. Its more likely they came from Poland (considering the timing), but i'd check whatever records exist for Germany as well (links >from jewishgen.org). I know its a shot in the dark, but often a combination of hard work and luck converts such shots into real success. Steven D. Bloom email: sbloom@email.hsc.edu
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Researching the KLAUSNER Family
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joel levinson <joel.levinson2@...>
I have just joined the group.I've been doing research for 5 years.I consider
myself to be a novice at both the researching and computer work in general. I live in suburban New Jersey,USA. My native and only language is English. I know the names,birth and death dates of my great grandparents,grandparents and their children up to the future.I have no information at all of my grandfather's siblings and therefore our extended family.Discovering that information is my purpose in joining this group. My great grandfather Aron Jacob KLAUSNER,my grandfather Max KLAUSNER,Max's siblings Herman,Willy,Rosa and Freida were born in Rytro,Poland. Our family group included members of the families GOLDMAN, PAPERLE, WAFFENFELD, RUBIN and ROZENSWEIG. There is the suggestion that there were relatives in Galicia, perhaps Nowy Sacz and other cities. It is possible that there were relatives involved in the toy, photography and glazier businesses. Family members at different times left for the US, Wein(Austria), Furth(Germany), Antwerp(Belgium) before the Holocaust. It is believed that there were KLAUSNER relatives in Wein and Furth. If anyone can provide any [Galicia] related information it would be most appreciated. If any wants more detail regarding the information in this mail please feel free to e-mail. [MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately] Joel Levinson Long Branch,N.J.,USA joel.levinson2@verizon.net
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Researching the KLAUSNER Family
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joel levinson <joel.levinson2@...>
I have just joined the group.I've been doing research for 5 years.I consider
myself to be a novice at both the researching and computer work in general. I live in suburban New Jersey,USA. My native and only language is English. I know the names,birth and death dates of my great grandparents,grandparents and their children up to the future.I have no information at all of my grandfather's siblings and therefore our extended family.Discovering that information is my purpose in joining this group. My great grandfather Aron Jacob KLAUSNER,my grandfather Max KLAUSNER,Max's siblings Herman,Willy,Rosa and Freida were born in Rytro,Poland. Our family group included members of the families GOLDMAN, PAPERLE, WAFFENFELD, RUBIN and ROZENSWEIG. There is the suggestion that there were relatives in Galicia, perhaps Nowy Sacz and other cities. It is possible that there were relatives involved in the toy, photography and glazier businesses. Family members at different times left for the US, Wein(Austria), Furth(Germany), Antwerp(Belgium) before the Holocaust. It is believed that there were KLAUSNER relatives in Wein and Furth. If anyone can provide any [Galicia] related information it would be most appreciated. If any wants more detail regarding the information in this mail please feel free to e-mail. [MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately] Joel Levinson Long Branch,N.J.,USA joel.levinson2@verizon.net
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Re: Miller/Meller-Pandelys; Baker/Bacher; Gayon ?
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m leonards <m_leonards@...>
Dear Stanley,
Is it possible that your grandfather is the Ytzir MELLER who arrived July 27, 1898 aboard the Barbarossa >from Bremen? He was a 30 year old labourer from Kowno, going to his brother in Boston, Mass.I've been compiling databases of immigrants >from Kupiskis and Pandelys. Everyone who went to Maine went to the town of Auburn. Is that true of your family as well? You might want to look at the manifest for 10 year old Isidor Miller who arrived October 25, 1902 >from Rotterdam. He was also >from Kowno, and travelling with 30-year old "Lettish" Jan Riger. Both were going to Isidor's brother M. Miller in Auburn, Me. I think immigrants sometimes gave the name of the Gubernia, rather than the small towns where they lived. Have you checked the Boston passenger lists for the 1902 arrivals? Finally, look at the All Litvak Database. There you will find the BOCHER family of Kvetkai, NovoAlexandrovsk (Zarasai) uyezd. The head of the family, Shaia-Leib, son of Boruch, was born in Gajunai, Panevevezys District. Good luck in your research. Monica Leonards suburban Philadelphia
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Miller/Meller-Pandelys; Baker/Bacher; Gayon ?
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m leonards <m_leonards@...>
Dear Stanley,
Is it possible that your grandfather is the Ytzir MELLER who arrived July 27, 1898 aboard the Barbarossa >from Bremen? He was a 30 year old labourer from Kowno, going to his brother in Boston, Mass.I've been compiling databases of immigrants >from Kupiskis and Pandelys. Everyone who went to Maine went to the town of Auburn. Is that true of your family as well? You might want to look at the manifest for 10 year old Isidor Miller who arrived October 25, 1902 >from Rotterdam. He was also >from Kowno, and travelling with 30-year old "Lettish" Jan Riger. Both were going to Isidor's brother M. Miller in Auburn, Me. I think immigrants sometimes gave the name of the Gubernia, rather than the small towns where they lived. Have you checked the Boston passenger lists for the 1902 arrivals? Finally, look at the All Litvak Database. There you will find the BOCHER family of Kvetkai, NovoAlexandrovsk (Zarasai) uyezd. The head of the family, Shaia-Leib, son of Boruch, was born in Gajunai, Panevevezys District. Good luck in your research. Monica Leonards suburban Philadelphia
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Re: Masha or Musa?
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Maria <elena@...>
Masha was a common Yiddish name in Russia. PerhapsBert ===== I believe it to be a diminutive for Marya (Miriam?). The Masha I know best is in "The Seagull". When Marie Curie was Marya Sklodowska, in Warsaw, her nickname was Manya. Maria Torres elena@pipeline.com MALTINSKY, RUBINSTEIN, MOSTOW, IMONITOFF, ZELLAT (Latvia, PA, GA, NY) NOTIS (Kovno, NY) KUNST (Poland, PA), PADEREWSKI (Poland, Savannah) PHILLIPS (PSCHEDESKI, PRZDECKI, DADACZ), LEVY, POMERANZ, ZEPLINSKY, FRANKEL (Poland, NY, KY) RYBINSKI (Poland, UK) DANIELSKI (Przdecz Poland)
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Masha or Musa?
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Maria <elena@...>
Masha was a common Yiddish name in Russia. PerhapsBert ===== I believe it to be a diminutive for Marya (Miriam?). The Masha I know best is in "The Seagull". When Marie Curie was Marya Sklodowska, in Warsaw, her nickname was Manya. Maria Torres elena@pipeline.com MALTINSKY, RUBINSTEIN, MOSTOW, IMONITOFF, ZELLAT (Latvia, PA, GA, NY) NOTIS (Kovno, NY) KUNST (Poland, PA), PADEREWSKI (Poland, Savannah) PHILLIPS (PSCHEDESKI, PRZDECKI, DADACZ), LEVY, POMERANZ, ZEPLINSKY, FRANKEL (Poland, NY, KY) RYBINSKI (Poland, UK) DANIELSKI (Przdecz Poland)
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Rabbi Moses of Copenhagen
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Nancy Holden
Wow.
Thanks so much that was a wonderful find. That is the first confirmation that I have had about Rabbi Moses of Copenhagen other than the small article in Enc. Jud. giving a little history. He is also mentioned in the Otzar HaRabbanim as number 14361. He was >from the tri-community of Altona, Wandsbeck and Hamburg. Son of "Rosh Josef" (Joseph ben Jacob of Pinchov, his mother was Deborah, daughter of Moses Kremer of Vilna (the grandfather of the Goan of Vilna). He was born about 1706 probably in Kosovo, Belarus and may have died in Vilna as the encyclopedia article mentions him as "of" Copenhagen and Vilna. Is there any way of discovering more about him? He was married to the daughter of Solomon Zalman >from Brisk but I do not know her name. His children were Chaim, Joel, Joseph of Lomza and Mirka. Thanks again Nancy Holden Pasadena CA
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Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Rabbi Moses of Copenhagen
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Nancy Holden
Wow.
Thanks so much that was a wonderful find. That is the first confirmation that I have had about Rabbi Moses of Copenhagen other than the small article in Enc. Jud. giving a little history. He is also mentioned in the Otzar HaRabbanim as number 14361. He was >from the tri-community of Altona, Wandsbeck and Hamburg. Son of "Rosh Josef" (Joseph ben Jacob of Pinchov, his mother was Deborah, daughter of Moses Kremer of Vilna (the grandfather of the Goan of Vilna). He was born about 1706 probably in Kosovo, Belarus and may have died in Vilna as the encyclopedia article mentions him as "of" Copenhagen and Vilna. Is there any way of discovering more about him? He was married to the daughter of Solomon Zalman >from Brisk but I do not know her name. His children were Chaim, Joel, Joseph of Lomza and Mirka. Thanks again Nancy Holden Pasadena CA
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Intro to Jewish Genealogy, Center for Jewish History, NYC
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Robert Friedman <rfriedman@...>
The Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute
Fall 2004 Workshop Schedule [Please excuse cross-posting to multiple lists] Introduction to Jewish Genealogy 11:00 am - 12:30 pm October 12 November 11 December 8 A one-hour presentation covers general principles and procedures of = family history research, with ample time allowed for questions and answers. Beginning = steps include oral history, "family archives" containing treasured photographs and = documents, and selected Internet sites. Most information, however, must still be = gleaned from source documents such as the US census, immigration and naturalization = papers, vital records, cemetery and funeral home records, newspapers, city = directories, and telephone books. Special topics to consider while searching for relatives include = the origins of Jewish surnames, language and spelling variations, the accuracy and = completeness of records, and the historical context in which various records were = created and used. LIMITED ENROLLMENT -- Pre-registration recommended Center for Jewish History Box Office 15 W. 16th Street New York, NY 10011 917-606-8200 boxoffice@cjh.org The Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute collaborates with the = CJH partners--the American Jewish Historical Society, the American Sephardi Federation, = the Leo Baeck Institute, the Yeshiva University Museum, and the YIVO Institute for = Jewish Research--to provide access to family history reference materials, answer questions = about family history research, orient family history researchers to the collections = at CJH, and offer=20 programs on family history research. Robert Friedman, Director 212-294-8318 gi@cjh.org www.cjh.org/family/
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Intro to Jewish Genealogy, Center for Jewish History, NYC
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Robert Friedman <rfriedman@...>
The Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute
Fall 2004 Workshop Schedule [Please excuse cross-posting to multiple lists] Introduction to Jewish Genealogy 11:00 am - 12:30 pm October 12 November 11 December 8 A one-hour presentation covers general principles and procedures of = family history research, with ample time allowed for questions and answers. Beginning = steps include oral history, "family archives" containing treasured photographs and = documents, and selected Internet sites. Most information, however, must still be = gleaned from source documents such as the US census, immigration and naturalization = papers, vital records, cemetery and funeral home records, newspapers, city = directories, and telephone books. Special topics to consider while searching for relatives include = the origins of Jewish surnames, language and spelling variations, the accuracy and = completeness of records, and the historical context in which various records were = created and used. LIMITED ENROLLMENT -- Pre-registration recommended Center for Jewish History Box Office 15 W. 16th Street New York, NY 10011 917-606-8200 boxoffice@cjh.org The Center for Jewish History Genealogy Institute collaborates with the = CJH partners--the American Jewish Historical Society, the American Sephardi Federation, = the Leo Baeck Institute, the Yeshiva University Museum, and the YIVO Institute for = Jewish Research--to provide access to family history reference materials, answer questions = about family history research, orient family history researchers to the collections = at CJH, and offer=20 programs on family history research. Robert Friedman, Director 212-294-8318 gi@cjh.org www.cjh.org/family/
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