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Re: Jews living in Moscow #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/15/2004 5:51:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, NFatouros
cited my:

==Moskowitz is not >from Moscow (where Jews were then not allowed to dwell)
but son of Moshe."

I regret having to dispute . . . . Mr. Bernet, but I must say that by the
last quarter of the nineteenth century quite a lot of Jews, a few of whom
were very wealthy, lived in Moscow. The Mayor of Moscow claimed that there were
120,000, but it is doubtful that there were more than 30,000.

==Yes, indeed, but in 1891-92 virtually all Jews were expelled >from Moscow in
one of the most brutal expulsions; not even the specially privileged
"cantonists" (i.e. those who had completed compulsory military service) were
allowed to remain. The Jews who lived in Moscow >from the 1850s to 1891 did so
under the most stringent of conditions, e.g. they had to reside in a special
Jewish hospice, they were limited to brief stays, they were limited in trades
and professions. It was only after 1915 that there was a sizable and tolerated
Jewish presence in Moscow.

==Certainly, when Jews first assumed family names--including the Moscowitz
name--there were very very few Jews in Moscow. My point was, of course, that the
Moscowitz name has no connection with Moscow, contrary to what many might
assume.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews living in Moscow #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/15/2004 5:51:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, NFatouros
cited my:

==Moskowitz is not >from Moscow (where Jews were then not allowed to dwell)
but son of Moshe."

I regret having to dispute . . . . Mr. Bernet, but I must say that by the
last quarter of the nineteenth century quite a lot of Jews, a few of whom
were very wealthy, lived in Moscow. The Mayor of Moscow claimed that there were
120,000, but it is doubtful that there were more than 30,000.

==Yes, indeed, but in 1891-92 virtually all Jews were expelled >from Moscow in
one of the most brutal expulsions; not even the specially privileged
"cantonists" (i.e. those who had completed compulsory military service) were
allowed to remain. The Jews who lived in Moscow >from the 1850s to 1891 did so
under the most stringent of conditions, e.g. they had to reside in a special
Jewish hospice, they were limited to brief stays, they were limited in trades
and professions. It was only after 1915 that there was a sizable and tolerated
Jewish presence in Moscow.

==Certainly, when Jews first assumed family names--including the Moscowitz
name--there were very very few Jews in Moscow. My point was, of course, that the
Moscowitz name has no connection with Moscow, contrary to what many might
assume.

Michael Bernet, New York


TOWN NAME #hungary

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

I came across an possible ancestor in the Budapest Marriage Records and
under his name, aside >from his profession, is the word "Ujvidek" (accent
over the e). I assume it was where he was born, but I can't find =
anyplace
with that name. Can anyone suggest what it might be?

Thanks.

Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)


Hungary SIG #Hungary TOWN NAME #hungary

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

I came across an possible ancestor in the Budapest Marriage Records and
under his name, aside >from his profession, is the word "Ujvidek" (accent
over the e). I assume it was where he was born, but I can't find =
anyplace
with that name. Can anyone suggest what it might be?

Thanks.

Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)


Masons #hungary

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Dear All:

Shana Tova to everyone.

I have been searching, unsuccessfully, for some time to determine the name
of the town in Hungary in which my GGF was born.

Inscribed on my GGF's gravestone is the symbol of the Masons. Because he
came over in 1880, the shipping records, naturalization records, vital
records, census records, and everything else I have checked do not indicate
his town of birth.

Would anyone know whether he would have given the town of birth information
when he joined the Masons? And if so, is there any way to obtain that
information >from the Masons? He died in 1925.

He always lived in NYC around East 49th street, so figuring out which
chapter of the Masons shouldn't be too hard.

Thanks for your help.

Sam


Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net


Hungary SIG #Hungary Masons #hungary

Sam Schleman <Samara99@...>
 

Dear All:

Shana Tova to everyone.

I have been searching, unsuccessfully, for some time to determine the name
of the town in Hungary in which my GGF was born.

Inscribed on my GGF's gravestone is the symbol of the Masons. Because he
came over in 1880, the shipping records, naturalization records, vital
records, census records, and everything else I have checked do not indicate
his town of birth.

Would anyone know whether he would have given the town of birth information
when he joined the Masons? And if so, is there any way to obtain that
information >from the Masons? He died in 1925.

He always lived in NYC around East 49th street, so figuring out which
chapter of the Masons shouldn't be too hard.

Thanks for your help.

Sam


Sam Schleman
Malvern, PA
Samara99@comcast.net


Shana Tova and thanks #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

To All Early American Sig Friends

Shana Tova

and a happy, peaceful, and prosperous New Year to all.

May your best genes >from all the genealogy you have discovered come to you.

Marvin Weinberg
Coordinator, Early American Sig.

PS. Special thanks to John Paul Lowens for all his help handling our Forum

PPS We've been lucky enough to get a volunteer, Joshua Levy to update our Web
Page. We're waiting for the OK >from JewishGen to get started.


Early American SIG #USA Shana Tova and thanks #usa

RecordsAccess@...
 

To All Early American Sig Friends

Shana Tova

and a happy, peaceful, and prosperous New Year to all.

May your best genes >from all the genealogy you have discovered come to you.

Marvin Weinberg
Coordinator, Early American Sig.

PS. Special thanks to John Paul Lowens for all his help handling our Forum

PPS We've been lucky enough to get a volunteer, Joshua Levy to update our Web
Page. We're waiting for the OK >from JewishGen to get started.


Re: FEDER and COHN, California, 1850s-present #usa

Joshua Levy <joshualevy@...>
 

I wan't a member of the Early American SIG when this was posted,
but I found it in the archives, so am replying:

The first arrival in the US was apparently his g-grandfather,
Moses Mendel FEDER, born around 1836-1838 in Prussia -- my uncle
was told he arrived in San Francisco in 1852. In 1860-1870, he
lived in Colusa County, California, before moving to San Francisco
where he lived until the 1906 earthquake,
If he was >from the Prussian area of Pozen, he would have been
refered to as "Polish" in SF, and probably would have been a
member of Temple Sherith Israel. If he was >from Baveria,
he would have been refered to as "German" in SF, and probably would
have been a member of Temple Emanu-El (both still exist). For
info on Emanu-El's archives, look here:
http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/church.htm#emanuel
The Emanu-El membership list >from 1900 might be very useful....

I have a history of Emanu-El ("Architects of Reform"), and will
check the Index for Feder, but it is not heavy on genealogy info.

Joshua Levy <joshualevy@yahoo.com>
Note: I'm having spam problems at my joshualevy@yahoo.com
address, so if that emailbox is full, try joshualevy2@hotmail.com


Shanna Tova #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

I am wishing all of us a Happy New Year (Shanna Tova Umevorechet).

Isaac Katz
Beith Hanania, Israel


Early American SIG #USA Re: FEDER and COHN, California, 1850s-present #usa

Joshua Levy <joshualevy@...>
 

I wan't a member of the Early American SIG when this was posted,
but I found it in the archives, so am replying:

The first arrival in the US was apparently his g-grandfather,
Moses Mendel FEDER, born around 1836-1838 in Prussia -- my uncle
was told he arrived in San Francisco in 1852. In 1860-1870, he
lived in Colusa County, California, before moving to San Francisco
where he lived until the 1906 earthquake,
If he was >from the Prussian area of Pozen, he would have been
refered to as "Polish" in SF, and probably would have been a
member of Temple Sherith Israel. If he was >from Baveria,
he would have been refered to as "German" in SF, and probably would
have been a member of Temple Emanu-El (both still exist). For
info on Emanu-El's archives, look here:
http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/church.htm#emanuel
The Emanu-El membership list >from 1900 might be very useful....

I have a history of Emanu-El ("Architects of Reform"), and will
check the Index for Feder, but it is not heavy on genealogy info.

Joshua Levy <joshualevy@yahoo.com>
Note: I'm having spam problems at my joshualevy@yahoo.com
address, so if that emailbox is full, try joshualevy2@hotmail.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Shanna Tova #hungary

Katz, Itzik <Itzik.Katz@...>
 

I am wishing all of us a Happy New Year (Shanna Tova Umevorechet).

Isaac Katz
Beith Hanania, Israel


Re: small Hungarian town #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

the radix 1913 gazetteer <http://www.radixindex.com/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi> or the 1882 gazetteer <http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g104.shtml> are a great resource for looking up place names.

there are quite a few places that start with "csa'ka" but i didn't find anything quite like "csa'katu'r".



....... tom klein, toronto


<marlena@012.net.il> wrote:


Does anyone know how to spell the small Hungarian town that is
pronounced like "Chuckatuurn"?

I wasn't given any other information, so I don't don't what part of
the country, but possibly in Zemplen county.

Thanks,

Marlena Esterson Zefat


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: small Hungarian town #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

the radix 1913 gazetteer <http://www.radixindex.com/cgi-bin/hn1913.cgi> or the 1882 gazetteer <http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g104.shtml> are a great resource for looking up place names.

there are quite a few places that start with "csa'ka" but i didn't find anything quite like "csa'katu'r".



....... tom klein, toronto


<marlena@012.net.il> wrote:


Does anyone know how to spell the small Hungarian town that is
pronounced like "Chuckatuurn"?

I wasn't given any other information, so I don't don't what part of
the country, but possibly in Zemplen county.

Thanks,

Marlena Esterson Zefat


Seeking Boyd Strauss (Australia) former GerSig Member #germany

GerSig@...
 

From: hans-martinunger@freesurf.ch (Hansmartin Unger)
MOD NOTE: Boyd Strauss was a GerSig Member >from early 1999 via
bstrauss@bigfoot.com. His subscription ended in March 2004 when this address
stopped accepting mail.

Hi Genners
I'm looking for the address of a Boyd Strauss of Australia who contacted me
several months ago about the Jewish ceemtary of Kindenheim and who has
changed its e-mail address. Does anybody know Mr. Strauss? Kind regards

Hansmartin Unger, St. Gallen, Switzerland


German SIG #Germany Seeking Boyd Strauss (Australia) former GerSig Member #germany

GerSig@...
 

From: hans-martinunger@freesurf.ch (Hansmartin Unger)
MOD NOTE: Boyd Strauss was a GerSig Member >from early 1999 via
bstrauss@bigfoot.com. His subscription ended in March 2004 when this address
stopped accepting mail.

Hi Genners
I'm looking for the address of a Boyd Strauss of Australia who contacted me
several months ago about the Jewish ceemtary of Kindenheim and who has
changed its e-mail address. Does anybody know Mr. Strauss? Kind regards

Hansmartin Unger, St. Gallen, Switzerland


Seattle arrivals #general

Daniel Hanoch Wagner <cpwagner@...>
 

Is there a list of immigration arrivals for the port of Seattle between
1910-1920, similar to the Ellis Island database?

H Daniel Wagner

E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seattle arrivals #general

Daniel Hanoch Wagner <cpwagner@...>
 

Is there a list of immigration arrivals for the port of Seattle between
1910-1920, similar to the Ellis Island database?

H Daniel Wagner

E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.il


Kolumbus and variations of spelling #general

Jack Kolumbus <jackkol@...>
 

My grandfather, John Kolumbus, came >from Slovakia to Philadelphia approx.
1890. His wife, Maria Matey (or Matej) also came >from Slovakia around the
same time. Although both grandparents were raised as Christians, comments
that I heard as a child lead me to believe that one or both of their
families might have been converted Jews. They spoke Slovak in their house
and threw in a number of Yiddish words!! I have done some research on the
Internet, such as the Ellis Island and other public records, and have found
other immigrants named Kolumbus >from Slavic countries who were Jewish. The
same records also list Jewish immigrants with variations in the spelling,
such as Kolumbis.

The grandchildren were given very little information on the Kolumbus family
in Slovakia. I discovered, >from the Ellis Island records, that 2 of my
grandfather's brothers also immigrated to the US but we grandchildren were
never told about them and have no knowledge of the whereabouts of their
families.

If we are Jewish, I would like to pass this information on to my
grandchildren and other members of our family. If you have any information
that would shed more light on our heritage, please contact me.

Thank you,

John (Jack) Kolumbus
Indianapolis, IN

MODERATOR NOTE: Please have a look at our FAQ and InfoFiles at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html> and
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There is also the Hungarian Special Interest Group (which covers
Slovakia) at <http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kolumbus and variations of spelling #general

Jack Kolumbus <jackkol@...>
 

My grandfather, John Kolumbus, came >from Slovakia to Philadelphia approx.
1890. His wife, Maria Matey (or Matej) also came >from Slovakia around the
same time. Although both grandparents were raised as Christians, comments
that I heard as a child lead me to believe that one or both of their
families might have been converted Jews. They spoke Slovak in their house
and threw in a number of Yiddish words!! I have done some research on the
Internet, such as the Ellis Island and other public records, and have found
other immigrants named Kolumbus >from Slavic countries who were Jewish. The
same records also list Jewish immigrants with variations in the spelling,
such as Kolumbis.

The grandchildren were given very little information on the Kolumbus family
in Slovakia. I discovered, >from the Ellis Island records, that 2 of my
grandfather's brothers also immigrated to the US but we grandchildren were
never told about them and have no knowledge of the whereabouts of their
families.

If we are Jewish, I would like to pass this information on to my
grandchildren and other members of our family. If you have any information
that would shed more light on our heritage, please contact me.

Thank you,

John (Jack) Kolumbus
Indianapolis, IN

MODERATOR NOTE: Please have a look at our FAQ and InfoFiles at
<http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html> and
<http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/>. There may be information
there to help in your search for records.
There is also the Hungarian Special Interest Group (which covers
Slovakia) at <http://www.jewishgen.org/hungary/>.