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Re: Jews living in Moscow #general

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/14/04 regarding the folk origins of names and the name
Moshe, Michael Bernet wrote in part:

<< * Moskowitz is not >from Moscow (where Jews were then not allowed to dwell)
but "son of Moshe." >>

I regret having to dispute the usually knowledgeable Mr. Bernet, but I must
say that by the last quarter of the nineteenth century quite a lot of Jews,
a few of whom were very wealthy, lived in Moscow. The Mayor of Moscow claimed
that there were 120,000, but it is doubtful that there were more than 30,000.
They were mostly petty traders living in a poor district. Many were artisans,
but with wicked cleverness, the official rules were changed as to what persons
could be considered artisans.

I think I once wrote a message to this forum regarding the 1891 horrendous
expulsion of many of these unfortunates. As did the Kishinev pogrom in the
early 20th century, the scale and ferocity of Moscow's midnight expulsion
prompted an outcry >from many nations, including the United States government who
sent Mssrs. Kemp and Webster to investigate it and develop a detailed report
which was submitted to Congress in 1892. (I had the Law School at Indiana
University make me a photocopy of that lengthy report.)

Also, in 1892, Harold Frederic, an American skeptic and journalist who was
raised as a Methodist published a book entitled "The New Exodus" about his
travels throughout Russia and his observations about the unjust treatment of
Jews. As an eyewitnees, he reported many details of that Moscow expulsion. At the
end of his book he appended a list of (only) 88 names of those who had been
expelled, along with the names of the places to which they were sent or
transported. This list had been published by the St. Petersburg Official Messenger on
August 22, 1892 and it was accompanied by the paper's denial that any
cruelties or acts of violence had been perpetrated against the Jews. Some of
Moscow's victims were allowed to stay long enough to sell whatever belongings and
other property they might have accumulated, and attend to a few other affairs,
but many, still in their night attire and some in chains, were driven to
prison, or to the outskirts of the city, or to waiting trains.

I have the 1970 edition of the entirety of Frederic's book as it was
republished by the Arno Press.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Re: Texas Immigration in 1800'st #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The port of Galveston was a big entry point for Texas and Oklahoma Jews.
There were no quotas in the 1800's. There was often a desire to go
somewhere rural, where one could farm, rather than NYC.

(Of course other ports were also possible-even Canadian border crossings-who
knows how an ancestor might have gotten to Texas. My grandfather was born
in Missouri, but his father had lived in Worcester, MA before going there
after the Civil War.)

Sally Bruckheimer
Chatham, NJ

"My question is: how did Jewish immigrants get to Texas? Were there
quotas in New York and Canada that required the boats >from Europe to go
to Texas in the 1800's?"


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jews living in Moscow #general

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/14/04 regarding the folk origins of names and the name
Moshe, Michael Bernet wrote in part:

<< * Moskowitz is not >from Moscow (where Jews were then not allowed to dwell)
but "son of Moshe." >>

I regret having to dispute the usually knowledgeable Mr. Bernet, but I must
say that by the last quarter of the nineteenth century quite a lot of Jews,
a few of whom were very wealthy, lived in Moscow. The Mayor of Moscow claimed
that there were 120,000, but it is doubtful that there were more than 30,000.
They were mostly petty traders living in a poor district. Many were artisans,
but with wicked cleverness, the official rules were changed as to what persons
could be considered artisans.

I think I once wrote a message to this forum regarding the 1891 horrendous
expulsion of many of these unfortunates. As did the Kishinev pogrom in the
early 20th century, the scale and ferocity of Moscow's midnight expulsion
prompted an outcry >from many nations, including the United States government who
sent Mssrs. Kemp and Webster to investigate it and develop a detailed report
which was submitted to Congress in 1892. (I had the Law School at Indiana
University make me a photocopy of that lengthy report.)

Also, in 1892, Harold Frederic, an American skeptic and journalist who was
raised as a Methodist published a book entitled "The New Exodus" about his
travels throughout Russia and his observations about the unjust treatment of
Jews. As an eyewitnees, he reported many details of that Moscow expulsion. At the
end of his book he appended a list of (only) 88 names of those who had been
expelled, along with the names of the places to which they were sent or
transported. This list had been published by the St. Petersburg Official Messenger on
August 22, 1892 and it was accompanied by the paper's denial that any
cruelties or acts of violence had been perpetrated against the Jews. Some of
Moscow's victims were allowed to stay long enough to sell whatever belongings and
other property they might have accumulated, and attend to a few other affairs,
but many, still in their night attire and some in chains, were driven to
prison, or to the outskirts of the city, or to waiting trains.

I have the 1970 edition of the entirety of Frederic's book as it was
republished by the Arno Press.

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Texas Immigration in 1800'st #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

The port of Galveston was a big entry point for Texas and Oklahoma Jews.
There were no quotas in the 1800's. There was often a desire to go
somewhere rural, where one could farm, rather than NYC.

(Of course other ports were also possible-even Canadian border crossings-who
knows how an ancestor might have gotten to Texas. My grandfather was born
in Missouri, but his father had lived in Worcester, MA before going there
after the Civil War.)

Sally Bruckheimer
Chatham, NJ

"My question is: how did Jewish immigrants get to Texas? Were there
quotas in New York and Canada that required the boats >from Europe to go
to Texas in the 1800's?"


Re: Masons #hungary

Flamholtz <flamholtz@...>
 

Sam,

Sorry that I can't help you, but if you find out a way to get information
from the Masons, let me know. A large number men >from one of my family lines
were Masons (in some cases, I even know the Lodge Number) and I'd love to be
able to locate additional information on them and activities they were
involved in.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
flamholtz@charter.net


Jewish PAPWORTHs in England #general

Kevin Bean <Kevin@...>
 

Does anyone know of any Jewish PAPWORTHs in England, preferably in
Islington, London or Cambridgeshire/Huntingdonshire ?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Masons #general

Flamholtz <flamholtz@...>
 

Sam,

Sorry that I can't help you, but if you find out a way to get information
from the Masons, let me know. A large number men >from one of my family lines
were Masons (in some cases, I even know the Lodge Number) and I'd love to be
able to locate additional information on them and activities they were
involved in.

Cathy J. Flamholtz
flamholtz@charter.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish PAPWORTHs in England #general

Kevin Bean <Kevin@...>
 

Does anyone know of any Jewish PAPWORTHs in England, preferably in
Islington, London or Cambridgeshire/Huntingdonshire ?


*re: Masons #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

As far as I know, the central register of all Masons of the York and Scottish
rites is located in London. Given the closed nature of this fraternity I don't
know if they would be willing to disclose information in their archives, but
it is worth a try.

See:
http://www.grandlodge-england.org/

The United Grand-Lodge of England
Freemasons' Hall
60 Great Queen Street
London
WC2B 5AZ
TEL: +44 (0) 20 7831 9811
FAX: +44 (0) 20 7831 6021

PS: are you absolutely sure that the symbol on the grave is Masonic?

Good luck
Tom

At 01:00 -0500 15.09.2004, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: Masons
From: "Sam Schleman" <Samara99@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:15:10 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8

Dear All:

Shana Tova to everyone.

I have been searching, unsuccessfully, for some time to determine the name
of the town in Hungary in which my GGF was born.

Inscribed on my GGF's gravestone is the symbol of the Masons. Because he
came over in 1880, the shipping records, naturalization records, vital
records, census records, and everything else I have checked do not indicate
his town of birth.

Would anyone know whether he would have given the town of birth information
when he joined the Masons? And if so, is there any way to obtain that
information >from the Masons? He died in 1925.

He always lived in NYC around East 49th street, so figuring out which
chapter of the Masons shouldn't be too hard.

Thanks for your help.

Sam
--
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Newspaper Research/Montifiore Synagogue-Hoboken #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

In answer to Allan Jordan's research question, which includes how to search
for newspaper articles without knowing a date an event occurred:

<<If a group of people got together in 1892 and started a temple would they
have had to incorporate it? How would I search for it?

They got together in 1892 in Hoboken, New Jersey and started the congregation.
In 1902 they built a building for the congregation in Hoboken and >from various
reports I believe the temple burnt down in the 1950s. The name of the
congrgation was Moses Montifiore. I would like to find newspaper articles
about the temple but I have no dates in which to look in the newspapers.>>

Using the ProQuest Historical Newspaper Database, I was able to enter
certain keywords and came up with several New York Times articles which
referenced the Moses Montifiore (and "Montefiore" spelling) Synagogue in
Hoboken, New Jersey.

None contained information about a fire or the synagogue's demise, but there
was other illuminative stories:

One amusing article dated July 30, 1898 entitled: "Hoboken Synagogue
Lifted," reports that the congregation edifice, then located at 76 Grand
Street, was hoisted thirty feet into the air so the landowner, David Engler,
could build a store underneath. The trustees of the congregation: Michael
Aaronberg, Abraham Hoffman, Mendal Bloomkey, Jacob Joseph and Adolph
Horowitz, strenuously objected and hired a lawyer, Isaac F. Goldenhorn, to
get an injunction to halt this act, and while the judge mulled over the
building's fate. there it sat--swinging in the breeze. Amid the flying
accusations of fraud...and disputes over who owns the land..., etc. there
are other details about how long the synagogue had been in existence, it's
plans for a new structure, etc. All useful research information!

There is also an obituary >from 1930 is for a congregant, Kupper Bier age
106--or possibly 109!-- whose funeral (with 40 plus descendants) was held at
Montifiore Synagogue, now located at 80 Grand Street. (Ahah! Wonder who
won the 1898 battle?)

Another 1935 obituary is for the congregation's (as well as "Mt. Sion" in
Jersey City's) rabbi, Chaim Hirschensohn, age 79, one of the founders of the
Zionist movement and creators of "the modern spoken Hebrew language."

These three examples demonstrate the rich..and easily
available...genealogical resource that scanned and digitized historical
newspaper databases offer--and which can be usually accessed at one's local
public library, or remotely, with a library card/password >from a
participating library. The names, dates and event details can lead
researchers off into many productive paths. No doubt, the local New Jersey
libraries will have information, or possibly subject indexes, for their
microfilmed copies of local newspapers that will also yield more information
on this subject.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen *re: Masons #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

As far as I know, the central register of all Masons of the York and Scottish
rites is located in London. Given the closed nature of this fraternity I don't
know if they would be willing to disclose information in their archives, but
it is worth a try.

See:
http://www.grandlodge-england.org/

The United Grand-Lodge of England
Freemasons' Hall
60 Great Queen Street
London
WC2B 5AZ
TEL: +44 (0) 20 7831 9811
FAX: +44 (0) 20 7831 6021

PS: are you absolutely sure that the symbol on the grave is Masonic?

Good luck
Tom

At 01:00 -0500 15.09.2004, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
Subject: Masons
From: "Sam Schleman" <Samara99@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 12:15:10 -0400
X-Message-Number: 8

Dear All:

Shana Tova to everyone.

I have been searching, unsuccessfully, for some time to determine the name
of the town in Hungary in which my GGF was born.

Inscribed on my GGF's gravestone is the symbol of the Masons. Because he
came over in 1880, the shipping records, naturalization records, vital
records, census records, and everything else I have checked do not indicate
his town of birth.

Would anyone know whether he would have given the town of birth information
when he joined the Masons? And if so, is there any way to obtain that
information >from the Masons? He died in 1925.

He always lived in NYC around East 49th street, so figuring out which
chapter of the Masons shouldn't be too hard.

Thanks for your help.

Sam
--
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Newspaper Research/Montifiore Synagogue-Hoboken #general

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

In answer to Allan Jordan's research question, which includes how to search
for newspaper articles without knowing a date an event occurred:

<<If a group of people got together in 1892 and started a temple would they
have had to incorporate it? How would I search for it?

They got together in 1892 in Hoboken, New Jersey and started the congregation.
In 1902 they built a building for the congregation in Hoboken and >from various
reports I believe the temple burnt down in the 1950s. The name of the
congrgation was Moses Montifiore. I would like to find newspaper articles
about the temple but I have no dates in which to look in the newspapers.>>

Using the ProQuest Historical Newspaper Database, I was able to enter
certain keywords and came up with several New York Times articles which
referenced the Moses Montifiore (and "Montefiore" spelling) Synagogue in
Hoboken, New Jersey.

None contained information about a fire or the synagogue's demise, but there
was other illuminative stories:

One amusing article dated July 30, 1898 entitled: "Hoboken Synagogue
Lifted," reports that the congregation edifice, then located at 76 Grand
Street, was hoisted thirty feet into the air so the landowner, David Engler,
could build a store underneath. The trustees of the congregation: Michael
Aaronberg, Abraham Hoffman, Mendal Bloomkey, Jacob Joseph and Adolph
Horowitz, strenuously objected and hired a lawyer, Isaac F. Goldenhorn, to
get an injunction to halt this act, and while the judge mulled over the
building's fate. there it sat--swinging in the breeze. Amid the flying
accusations of fraud...and disputes over who owns the land..., etc. there
are other details about how long the synagogue had been in existence, it's
plans for a new structure, etc. All useful research information!

There is also an obituary >from 1930 is for a congregant, Kupper Bier age
106--or possibly 109!-- whose funeral (with 40 plus descendants) was held at
Montifiore Synagogue, now located at 80 Grand Street. (Ahah! Wonder who
won the 1898 battle?)

Another 1935 obituary is for the congregation's (as well as "Mt. Sion" in
Jersey City's) rabbi, Chaim Hirschensohn, age 79, one of the founders of the
Zionist movement and creators of "the modern spoken Hebrew language."

These three examples demonstrate the rich..and easily
available...genealogical resource that scanned and digitized historical
newspaper databases offer--and which can be usually accessed at one's local
public library, or remotely, with a library card/password >from a
participating library. The names, dates and event details can lead
researchers off into many productive paths. No doubt, the local New Jersey
libraries will have information, or possibly subject indexes, for their
microfilmed copies of local newspapers that will also yield more information
on this subject.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Re: Seattle arrivals #general

joe <joe@...>
 

Hello Daniel,
Unfortunately there is not. The Seattle passenger lists are available on
microfilm for your time frame, but they have not been indexed. For FHL &
NARA roll numbers see...

Seattle, Washington Passenger Lists 1890-1957 (microfilm info)
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/miscports/seattle.html

You should be able to find ship name and date of arrival >from the
person's naturalization record...

Finding US Naturalization Records (a genealogy guide)
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/naturalizationrecords.html

Good luck with your search.

Regards,
Joe Beine
Denver, CO

Daniel Hanoch Wagner wrote:

Is there a list of immigration arrivals for the port of Seattle between
1910-1920, similar to the Ellis Island database?

H Daniel Wagner

E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.ilI


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seattle arrivals #general

joe <joe@...>
 

Hello Daniel,
Unfortunately there is not. The Seattle passenger lists are available on
microfilm for your time frame, but they have not been indexed. For FHL &
NARA roll numbers see...

Seattle, Washington Passenger Lists 1890-1957 (microfilm info)
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/miscports/seattle.html

You should be able to find ship name and date of arrival >from the
person's naturalization record...

Finding US Naturalization Records (a genealogy guide)
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/naturalizationrecords.html

Good luck with your search.

Regards,
Joe Beine
Denver, CO

Daniel Hanoch Wagner wrote:

Is there a list of immigration arrivals for the port of Seattle between
1910-1920, similar to the Ellis Island database?

H Daniel Wagner

E-mail: daniel.wagner@weizmann.ac.ilI


Springa Freilinghi #romania

jschwart@...
 

I recently found the married name of a distant relative in Birlad circa the 1890's.
I was wondering if anyone might suggest an English version of this name. The name
Springa Freilinghi is the Romanian version.
Sincerely Jonathan SCHWARTZ
Nashville,Tennessee.
researching SCHWARTZ Iasi, Birlad, Focsani.


Romania SIG #Romania Springa Freilinghi #romania

jschwart@...
 

I recently found the married name of a distant relative in Birlad circa the 1890's.
I was wondering if anyone might suggest an English version of this name. The name
Springa Freilinghi is the Romanian version.
Sincerely Jonathan SCHWARTZ
Nashville,Tennessee.
researching SCHWARTZ Iasi, Birlad, Focsani.


Shana Tova from the HFPJC Team #romania

hfpjc
 

Hello GEnners,

On the behalf of the entire HFPJC staff, I'd like to wish you all a
Shana Tova and a Happy Jewish New Year.

WE at the HFPJC have been very involved with numerous cemetery projects
in
the last couple of months. Many have been completely restored in the last
couple of weeks, the gravestones numbered and photographed individually for
indexing and donation to the J-Gen JOWBR.
There are many projects which I know will be of interest to many of you,
so I'll compile a posting with brief description of each of them right after
the Holiday.

Once again, Shana Tova to you and your families!

All the best,

Toby Mendlowitz
Assistant Director
HFPJC


Romania SIG #Romania Shana Tova from the HFPJC Team #romania

hfpjc
 

Hello GEnners,

On the behalf of the entire HFPJC staff, I'd like to wish you all a
Shana Tova and a Happy Jewish New Year.

WE at the HFPJC have been very involved with numerous cemetery projects
in
the last couple of months. Many have been completely restored in the last
couple of weeks, the gravestones numbered and photographed individually for
indexing and donation to the J-Gen JOWBR.
There are many projects which I know will be of interest to many of you,
so I'll compile a posting with brief description of each of them right after
the Holiday.

Once again, Shana Tova to you and your families!

All the best,

Toby Mendlowitz
Assistant Director
HFPJC


L'Shana Tovah #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Happy New Year to all our SIG members, their families, and all Jews
everywhere.

May your loved ones be healthy and happy, may the fruits of your labor be
blessed, may good fortune and love fill the days of the year to make it your
brightest and best.

L'Shana Tovah,

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus L'Shana Tovah #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Happy New Year to all our SIG members, their families, and all Jews
everywhere.

May your loved ones be healthy and happy, may the fruits of your labor be
blessed, may good fortune and love fill the days of the year to make it your
brightest and best.

L'Shana Tovah,

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus