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Where to start? Alice BECKER
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Bryon L <loretta169@...>
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From: Bryon L To: JewishGen Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:16 PM Subject: Where to start? Alice BECKER Hi Genners Although I have been researching for many years, I have never had cause to research Jewish Genealogy until now. My neighbour has asked me to see what I can discover of her roots. The only facts I have are her birth certificate which says she was born Elizabeth BECKER, 1940 in Islington, London, England. No father named on the certificate. Mother's name Alice Charlotte BECKER. Alice BECKER died in Hampstead, London, England of a stroke in 1950. Aged 42, no place of birth given. The then 9 year old Elizabeth was taken to a Jewish children's home, possibly in Norwood, London. She was adopted by a Jewish couple in December 1950, who split up when she was a teenager and she started a life on her own, losing all contact with her religion. Other 'facts' >from her memory. Her mother was a trained chiropodist but never worked as one in England and she spoke very good English with a foreign accent. Her mother once mentioned a twin sister (of her mother) in Berlin. She thinks that her mother came to England about 1938 and she has a faint memory of her mother having a tattoo on her arm but doesn't know if this is a real memory or something she saw somewhere else and 'implanted' on her mother. She does not remember ever meeting anyone that could have been a relative while living with her mother in London. That is all I have. Can someone point me in the right direction to get started? Is there a Jewish children's home in Norwood? Would they keep records for over 50 years? Is there any way of finding when Alice arrived in England, and from where? Bryon Hardaker Oxfordshire, England MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to JewishGen. There are some very good tools you can use for researching in the UK: The JewishGen infofiles: http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#UK The UK SIG (special interest group) http://www.jewishgen.org/JCR-UK/ They also have a discussion group, in which you might consider posting this message. It is also a very good idea to register the name you are seeking in the JGFF (JewishGen Family Finder). It is the most visited database on our site. http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where to start? Alice BECKER
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Bryon L <loretta169@...>
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From: Bryon L To: JewishGen Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:16 PM Subject: Where to start? Alice BECKER Hi Genners Although I have been researching for many years, I have never had cause to research Jewish Genealogy until now. My neighbour has asked me to see what I can discover of her roots. The only facts I have are her birth certificate which says she was born Elizabeth BECKER, 1940 in Islington, London, England. No father named on the certificate. Mother's name Alice Charlotte BECKER. Alice BECKER died in Hampstead, London, England of a stroke in 1950. Aged 42, no place of birth given. The then 9 year old Elizabeth was taken to a Jewish children's home, possibly in Norwood, London. She was adopted by a Jewish couple in December 1950, who split up when she was a teenager and she started a life on her own, losing all contact with her religion. Other 'facts' >from her memory. Her mother was a trained chiropodist but never worked as one in England and she spoke very good English with a foreign accent. Her mother once mentioned a twin sister (of her mother) in Berlin. She thinks that her mother came to England about 1938 and she has a faint memory of her mother having a tattoo on her arm but doesn't know if this is a real memory or something she saw somewhere else and 'implanted' on her mother. She does not remember ever meeting anyone that could have been a relative while living with her mother in London. That is all I have. Can someone point me in the right direction to get started? Is there a Jewish children's home in Norwood? Would they keep records for over 50 years? Is there any way of finding when Alice arrived in England, and from where? Bryon Hardaker Oxfordshire, England MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to JewishGen. There are some very good tools you can use for researching in the UK: The JewishGen infofiles: http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#UK The UK SIG (special interest group) http://www.jewishgen.org/JCR-UK/ They also have a discussion group, in which you might consider posting this message. It is also a very good idea to register the name you are seeking in the JGFF (JewishGen Family Finder). It is the most visited database on our site. http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff
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Re: corrections to INTRO---OPPENHEIMER, GOLDSCHMITT, SAMUEL, KAYYEL ...
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Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
Jon Stedman posted as follows:
"It has been kindly pointed out to me that in Germany, Sally was a Jewish man's name, short for Salomon, and the GOLDSCHMIDTs lived not at Gedern, Hessen, but at Dreisen, Rheinland Pfalz." Actually, there has been some confusion as to names which "sound" like the name Sally, at least in German pronunciation (the "S" has a "Z" sound). The German secular given name spelled Sally was used for both women and men in Ashkenaz. This can be see by visiting the Germany Given Names Data Base at < http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames >, and using the search input "Sally OR Sali" with Plain Text search. To my knowledge, the name spelled Sally was "never" used by Jews in Germany as a nickname for the German secular name Salomon, but only for the two male/female names mentioned above. It is possible, of course, that there may have been some exceptional cases. However, the name "Sali" was indeed used as a nickname for Salomon. Shabbat shalom, Professor G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel Germany Given Names Data Base is at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames
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German SIG #Germany Re: corrections to INTRO---OPPENHEIMER, GOLDSCHMITT, SAMUEL, KAYYEL ...
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Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
Jon Stedman posted as follows:
"It has been kindly pointed out to me that in Germany, Sally was a Jewish man's name, short for Salomon, and the GOLDSCHMIDTs lived not at Gedern, Hessen, but at Dreisen, Rheinland Pfalz." Actually, there has been some confusion as to names which "sound" like the name Sally, at least in German pronunciation (the "S" has a "Z" sound). The German secular given name spelled Sally was used for both women and men in Ashkenaz. This can be see by visiting the Germany Given Names Data Base at < http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames >, and using the search input "Sally OR Sali" with Plain Text search. To my knowledge, the name spelled Sally was "never" used by Jews in Germany as a nickname for the German secular name Salomon, but only for the two male/female names mentioned above. It is possible, of course, that there may have been some exceptional cases. However, the name "Sali" was indeed used as a nickname for Salomon. Shabbat shalom, Professor G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel Germany Given Names Data Base is at: http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames
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BODENHEIMER, LOEW, FABER, FUERST of Ruchheim and Karlsruhe
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GIDON LEV
I am looking for anyone who has any information concerning Helene Loew -
BODENHEIMER, who around 1840 married Loepold LOEW, who was a butcher and lived in Ruchheim, today part of Ludwigshafen. Their son Markus (Max) LOEW (also a butcher) married at the age of 24 in 1875 Fanny FUERST in Karlsruhe, daughter of the merchant Jakob and his wife Zitona FUERST, both of Karlsruhe. A relative who attended the civil wedding ceremony was Marx (or Max) FABER. I would be very grateful if anyone who has any knowledge about these people will contact me. Gidon Lev (Guido Loew) Givatayim gidonl@012.net.il MODERATOR NOTE- Family names should be typed in ALL CAPITAL letters, please.
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German SIG #Germany BODENHEIMER, LOEW, FABER, FUERST of Ruchheim and Karlsruhe
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GIDON LEV
I am looking for anyone who has any information concerning Helene Loew -
BODENHEIMER, who around 1840 married Loepold LOEW, who was a butcher and lived in Ruchheim, today part of Ludwigshafen. Their son Markus (Max) LOEW (also a butcher) married at the age of 24 in 1875 Fanny FUERST in Karlsruhe, daughter of the merchant Jakob and his wife Zitona FUERST, both of Karlsruhe. A relative who attended the civil wedding ceremony was Marx (or Max) FABER. I would be very grateful if anyone who has any knowledge about these people will contact me. Gidon Lev (Guido Loew) Givatayim gidonl@012.net.il MODERATOR NOTE- Family names should be typed in ALL CAPITAL letters, please.
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Google Hits
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Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
Genners:
To avoid getting 19,600 hits you can narrow it down by first putting in: "genealogy castle garden" Using the word "genealogy" eliminates all the unneeded hits. It works quite well with surnames, countries, etc. I used Genealogy Goldberg and only Goldberg related to genealogy showed up. Also when I put in genealogy russia only Russian genealogy appeared including a reference to JewishGen. and some are duplicates. Still, there are plenty of links that are very muchMy search just now returned 19,600 hits! Not all of these are appropriate, to the point of your questions.<<<< Regards, Joan Parker Immediate Past President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc. Miami, FL Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY; PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx and Brooklyn, NY; GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL. Does anyone know about or have a reference to the actualYour questions, and many more, can be answered very simply by doing a Google search for "Castly Garden" (with the quotation marks, so that the two words are understood as a sequence). If you do not know how to do this, it is really very simple and intuitive -- and is by far the most valuable resource on the Web: The URL of Google is: http://www.google.com My search just now returned 19,600 hits! Not all of these are appropriate, and some are duplicates. Still, there are plenty of links that are very much to the point of your questions. Google is your friend, and can make your use of the Internet much more productive. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Google Hits
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Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
Genners:
To avoid getting 19,600 hits you can narrow it down by first putting in: "genealogy castle garden" Using the word "genealogy" eliminates all the unneeded hits. It works quite well with surnames, countries, etc. I used Genealogy Goldberg and only Goldberg related to genealogy showed up. Also when I put in genealogy russia only Russian genealogy appeared including a reference to JewishGen. and some are duplicates. Still, there are plenty of links that are very muchMy search just now returned 19,600 hits! Not all of these are appropriate, to the point of your questions.<<<< Regards, Joan Parker Immediate Past President JGS of Greater Miami, Inc. Miami, FL Searching: GOLDBERG, GOODSTEIN, BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia and Brooklyn, NY; PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia maybe Odessa, Ukraine, Bronx and Brooklyn, NY; GELFAND, YEHUDIS, KATZ-Minsk, Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL. Does anyone know about or have a reference to the actualYour questions, and many more, can be answered very simply by doing a Google search for "Castly Garden" (with the quotation marks, so that the two words are understood as a sequence). If you do not know how to do this, it is really very simple and intuitive -- and is by far the most valuable resource on the Web: The URL of Google is: http://www.google.com My search just now returned 19,600 hits! Not all of these are appropriate, and some are duplicates. Still, there are plenty of links that are very much to the point of your questions. Google is your friend, and can make your use of the Internet much more productive. -- Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel
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PHINEAS Family - London, England
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Anne McLaughlin <anne.mc@...>
London's Portuguese-Jewish Community -
I am looking for my 3rd great grand-mother's father. Sadly we know nothing of his origins. His name was Isaac Heineman PHINEAS (b/circa 1775/80 - death 1855/ Three-Rivers, Quebec, CA). He arrived alone in Quebec at the age of 18 or 20, in about 1798. He quickly became a merchant in Three-Rivers. He soon married Hannah Cook and they had 6 children. No other Phineas family member is known to have immigrated at this time. Family lore has it that Isaac was born in the Portuguese-Jewish section of London, England. Isaac was well educated and he could read and write English fluently. Locating Passenger Records is quite difficult before 1865, in Canada. Was there a Portuguese-Jewish Community in London in the late 1700's? Where would I look to find the residents of such a community? Any and all advice is welcome. Thanking you, Anne, Montreal
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PHINEAS Family - London, England
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Anne McLaughlin <anne.mc@...>
London's Portuguese-Jewish Community -
I am looking for my 3rd great grand-mother's father. Sadly we know nothing of his origins. His name was Isaac Heineman PHINEAS (b/circa 1775/80 - death 1855/ Three-Rivers, Quebec, CA). He arrived alone in Quebec at the age of 18 or 20, in about 1798. He quickly became a merchant in Three-Rivers. He soon married Hannah Cook and they had 6 children. No other Phineas family member is known to have immigrated at this time. Family lore has it that Isaac was born in the Portuguese-Jewish section of London, England. Isaac was well educated and he could read and write English fluently. Locating Passenger Records is quite difficult before 1865, in Canada. Was there a Portuguese-Jewish Community in London in the late 1700's? Where would I look to find the residents of such a community? Any and all advice is welcome. Thanking you, Anne, Montreal
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Re: EIDB -- LUPOLANSKI -- Help Needed
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Arthur Hoffman <arthh@...>
I agree with Alexander Sharon that the birthplace on the manifest is
Holvanisk (Golovanevsk). It is confirmed on p.960, column 11, which indicates that the nearest relative was >from Holvanisk, *Podolia*. Podolia was the Guberniya (province) for Golovanevsk at that time. My grandfather was also born in Golovanevsk, a shtetl of about 5000 with about 60-70% Jewish at the turn of the 20th century when the 1897 All Russian census was taken. Coincidentally, Jacob, perhaps you may be related to Steve Rosen who heads up an informal group of individuals around the world researching their ancestors >from Golovanevsk, since you have the same last name. Arthur Hoffman Boynton Beach, FL Researching GOICHMANN, Golovanevsk; WAIT, WHITE, Annapool "Alexander Sharon" <a.sharon@shaw.ca> wrote "Abuwasta Abuwasta" wrotepermanentDear Genners, on p.961).permanent residence in Russia(p.960) nor the place of her birth (last column Please respond privately.Jacob, group archives for the further references.Poland. Olganow was obscure place with only 3 Jewish residents
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: EIDB -- LUPOLANSKI -- Help Needed
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Arthur Hoffman <arthh@...>
I agree with Alexander Sharon that the birthplace on the manifest is
Holvanisk (Golovanevsk). It is confirmed on p.960, column 11, which indicates that the nearest relative was >from Holvanisk, *Podolia*. Podolia was the Guberniya (province) for Golovanevsk at that time. My grandfather was also born in Golovanevsk, a shtetl of about 5000 with about 60-70% Jewish at the turn of the 20th century when the 1897 All Russian census was taken. Coincidentally, Jacob, perhaps you may be related to Steve Rosen who heads up an informal group of individuals around the world researching their ancestors >from Golovanevsk, since you have the same last name. Arthur Hoffman Boynton Beach, FL Researching GOICHMANN, Golovanevsk; WAIT, WHITE, Annapool "Alexander Sharon" <a.sharon@shaw.ca> wrote "Abuwasta Abuwasta" wrotepermanentDear Genners, on p.961).permanent residence in Russia(p.960) nor the place of her birth (last column Please respond privately.Jacob, group archives for the further references.Poland. Olganow was obscure place with only 3 Jewish residents
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Elizabeth Jackson
Dear members,
My cousin has provided me with the following information relevant to our family line: Majta KLEPFISZ, born 1911, married Jakob Icek KOTT. Majta's parents were: Nuchim KLEPFISZ and Itla, nee BERKE. All were >from the city of Kalisz, in Poland. According to ShtetlSeeker, Kalisz is one of the following: Kalisz (Kalisz Pomorski) 5403 1748 V Poland 181.6 miles NW of Warsaw Kalisz 5257 2039 N Poland 50.5 miles NNW of Warsaw Kalisz 5221 1846 N Poland 94.5 miles W of Warsaw Kalisz 5145 1805 N Poland 128.7 miles WSW of Warsaw Kalisz 5016 2008 N Poland 142.0 miles SSW of Warsaw Does anyone have any ideas on how we can narrow our search to determine which Kalisz we should look in for more information? If you are familiar with this family, or have suggestions for further research, please respond to me privately. I have also posted this message to JRI-PL SIG and apologize in advance for any duplication. Thank you! Elizabeth Jackson Tennessee, USA
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Elizabeth Jackson
Dear members,
My cousin has provided me with the following information relevant to our family line: Majta KLEPFISZ, born 1911, married Jakob Icek KOTT. Majta's parents were: Nuchim KLEPFISZ and Itla, nee BERKE. All were >from the city of Kalisz, in Poland. According to ShtetlSeeker, Kalisz is one of the following: Kalisz (Kalisz Pomorski) 5403 1748 V Poland 181.6 miles NW of Warsaw Kalisz 5257 2039 N Poland 50.5 miles NNW of Warsaw Kalisz 5221 1846 N Poland 94.5 miles W of Warsaw Kalisz 5145 1805 N Poland 128.7 miles WSW of Warsaw Kalisz 5016 2008 N Poland 142.0 miles SSW of Warsaw Does anyone have any ideas on how we can narrow our search to determine which Kalisz we should look in for more information? If you are familiar with this family, or have suggestions for further research, please respond to me privately. I have also posted this message to JRI-PL SIG and apologize in advance for any duplication. Thank you! Elizabeth Jackson Tennessee, USA
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Deportees from France
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Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
This is a one time permitted announcement of an important research book.
It is known that during WW II about 76,000 Jews, including 11,000 children, were deported >from France. But what is not so well-known is that there were an additional 85,000 others, deported as Resistance, hostages, etc., in which were also included many Jews, which the Nazis did not realize. While Serge Klarsfeld has documented the 76,000 known Jews in his book, there was, until recently, no research and documentation for the other 85,000 individuals After some seven years the Fondation pour la Memoire de la Deportation http://www.fmd.asso.fr/ has just published a long-anticipated set of memorial volumes , in French, which lists these 85,000, missing for over 60 years. The title is, "Le livre-memorial des deportes de France arretes par mesure de repression et dans certains cas par mesure de persecution - 1945-1945." [The memorial book of deportes >from France, arrested as repressive measures and in certain cases as a method of persecution...] This work consists of 4 volumes , each about 1500 pages. On each page there is a table that lists for each deporte, the number in the camp (when known), family name, first name, sex, date of birth, place of birth, nationality, entire route( camps in which interned) stauts (deceased, survivor, unknown) date of release or date of death, place of release or death, comments. While these books contain mainly the names of non-Jewish resistants or hostages, there are still many who were Jewish, but who were arrested as Resistants. Many listings have never been published before, and may provide a clue to those who are still seeking some information for missing family. For those interested information can be obtained from: Fondation pour la Memoire de la Deportation 30, Boulevard des Invalides 75007 - Paris France mail to: communication@fmd.assoc.fr -- Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky Besancon (France) and also Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris) http://www.genealoj.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Deportees from France
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Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
This is a one time permitted announcement of an important research book.
It is known that during WW II about 76,000 Jews, including 11,000 children, were deported >from France. But what is not so well-known is that there were an additional 85,000 others, deported as Resistance, hostages, etc., in which were also included many Jews, which the Nazis did not realize. While Serge Klarsfeld has documented the 76,000 known Jews in his book, there was, until recently, no research and documentation for the other 85,000 individuals After some seven years the Fondation pour la Memoire de la Deportation http://www.fmd.asso.fr/ has just published a long-anticipated set of memorial volumes , in French, which lists these 85,000, missing for over 60 years. The title is, "Le livre-memorial des deportes de France arretes par mesure de repression et dans certains cas par mesure de persecution - 1945-1945." [The memorial book of deportes >from France, arrested as repressive measures and in certain cases as a method of persecution...] This work consists of 4 volumes , each about 1500 pages. On each page there is a table that lists for each deporte, the number in the camp (when known), family name, first name, sex, date of birth, place of birth, nationality, entire route( camps in which interned) stauts (deceased, survivor, unknown) date of release or date of death, place of release or death, comments. While these books contain mainly the names of non-Jewish resistants or hostages, there are still many who were Jewish, but who were arrested as Resistants. Many listings have never been published before, and may provide a clue to those who are still seeking some information for missing family. For those interested information can be obtained from: Fondation pour la Memoire de la Deportation 30, Boulevard des Invalides 75007 - Paris France mail to: communication@fmd.assoc.fr -- Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky Besancon (France) and also Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris) http://www.genealoj.org
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Processing at Castle Garden
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Stew Driller
Does anyone know about or have a reference to the actual
processing procedure at Castle Garden. Where did the boats land? How were immigrants conveyed to Castle Garden? Was there any type of security? Are there interior photos photographs of Castle Garden during the period it was the immigration center? Were there medical exams? There are dozens of books with such information about Ellis Island, but I don't recall seeing similar references for Castle Garden. Thanks. Stew Driller New York City
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Processing at Castle Garden
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Stew Driller
Does anyone know about or have a reference to the actual
processing procedure at Castle Garden. Where did the boats land? How were immigrants conveyed to Castle Garden? Was there any type of security? Are there interior photos photographs of Castle Garden during the period it was the immigration center? Were there medical exams? There are dozens of books with such information about Ellis Island, but I don't recall seeing similar references for Castle Garden. Thanks. Stew Driller New York City
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Shtetl of Jure/Yure
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Wayne N. Frankel <wnf@...>
Dear Listers,
Does anyone know something about the shtetl of Jure (or Yura or Yure or Jura), approximately 75 mi west of Vilna? In particular I'm looking to see where the records >from there might be located. The RTR database doesn't get to a JURE or YURE, the ALD doesn't seem to get there either using this town name (dutch-molikoff soundex), although somewhere else it may have been listed as part of Suwalk gubernya. Its not listed under Jure (etc) under the Litvak shtetl links either, nor does it seem to be listed in the Suwalk-Lomza SIG list of towns or in the LitvakSIG shtetl list. Please email me directly if you know something about Jure. Thanks for your help, Wayne Frankel Bar Harbor Now researching SASS, FRANKEL, FROMM, SEBASEWITSCH, FRIEDLANDER, CHABATSKI, ICHKOWITZ >from all kinds of places including Vilkaviskis, Vievis, Jure, Konin, Dzernsbik, Kalish, Bialystock hopefully not too many others!
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Shtetl of Jure/Yure
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Wayne N. Frankel <wnf@...>
Dear Listers,
Does anyone know something about the shtetl of Jure (or Yura or Yure or Jura), approximately 75 mi west of Vilna? In particular I'm looking to see where the records >from there might be located. The RTR database doesn't get to a JURE or YURE, the ALD doesn't seem to get there either using this town name (dutch-molikoff soundex), although somewhere else it may have been listed as part of Suwalk gubernya. Its not listed under Jure (etc) under the Litvak shtetl links either, nor does it seem to be listed in the Suwalk-Lomza SIG list of towns or in the LitvakSIG shtetl list. Please email me directly if you know something about Jure. Thanks for your help, Wayne Frankel Bar Harbor Now researching SASS, FRANKEL, FROMM, SEBASEWITSCH, FRIEDLANDER, CHABATSKI, ICHKOWITZ >from all kinds of places including Vilkaviskis, Vievis, Jure, Konin, Dzernsbik, Kalish, Bialystock hopefully not too many others!
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