Memorialization for the Holocaust Victims from the Town of Birzh (Birzai), Lithuania
#lithuania
Roy Ogus
On August 8, 1941, 2400 Jews living in the town of Birzh were force-marched
to the Astrava forest, 3 Km outside of Birzh, and brutally murdered. The victims lie buried in the forest in two large mass graves. A fuller description of this horrific event is found at https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/birzai/Birzh_3.html A major undertaking to build, at the gravesite, a memorial to the victims is now in process, with the goal of dedicating the memorial in October 2018. A list of victims has been constructed using data >from the Yad Vashem Database of Shoah Victims Names. However, this list falls well short of identifying a majority of those who died on that fateful day. The organizers of the memorial project urgently seek people who can contribute names of Jews who were resident in Birzh during WWII or Jews who are known to have perished in the Astrava forest. If you have such names or other pertinent information to share, please contact Jonathan Dorfan at <jdorfan@yahoo.com>. Jonathan will provide you with a Testimony Form to capture, in a standardized format, what information you have. Thanks! Roy Ogus Palo Alto, California r_ogus at hotmail.com </jdorfan@yahoo.com>
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Memorialization for the Holocaust Victims from the Town of Birzh (Birzai), Lithuania
#lithuania
Roy Ogus
On August 8, 1941, 2400 Jews living in the town of Birzh were force-marched
to the Astrava forest, 3 Km outside of Birzh, and brutally murdered. The victims lie buried in the forest in two large mass graves. A fuller description of this horrific event is found at https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/birzai/Birzh_3.html A major undertaking to build, at the gravesite, a memorial to the victims is now in process, with the goal of dedicating the memorial in October 2018. A list of victims has been constructed using data >from the Yad Vashem Database of Shoah Victims Names. However, this list falls well short of identifying a majority of those who died on that fateful day. The organizers of the memorial project urgently seek people who can contribute names of Jews who were resident in Birzh during WWII or Jews who are known to have perished in the Astrava forest. If you have such names or other pertinent information to share, please contact Jonathan Dorfan at <jdorfan@yahoo.com>. Jonathan will provide you with a Testimony Form to capture, in a standardized format, what information you have. Thanks! Roy Ogus Palo Alto, California r_ogus at hotmail.com </jdorfan@yahoo.com>
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Philadelphia Bank Immigrant Passage Records Address Interpretation Assistance
#ukraine
D S <dps1107@...>
I recently realized that digital copies of the Philadelphia Bank
Immigrant Passage Records (indices available on JewishGen) are available online through Temple University (http://digital.library.temple.edu/cdm/searchingledgers/collection/p16002coll16/index.php). These records often list addresses in Europe with abbreviations. Below is one example. Would anyone be able and/or willing to inform me what the abbreviations stand for (or otherwise inform me where I could find this information). I assume that the "G" stands for Guberniya, but I am unsure of the others (I assume both "Dom" and "Na" are also abbreviations). Any other information that you might be able to provide on this address would be greatly appreciated. (I assume Berdichew is Berdichev.) A copy of the original is available upon request. Thank you in advance. ADDRESS WOLF GIDIZGEIM G. Berdiczew Dom. Globocki Na Starow (Starom? Starorn?) Bazar Best, Dan Schley Ithaca, NY
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Philadelphia Bank Immigrant Passage Records Address Interpretation Assistance
#ukraine
D S <dps1107@...>
I recently realized that digital copies of the Philadelphia Bank
Immigrant Passage Records (indices available on JewishGen) are available online through Temple University (http://digital.library.temple.edu/cdm/searchingledgers/collection/p16002coll16/index.php). These records often list addresses in Europe with abbreviations. Below is one example. Would anyone be able and/or willing to inform me what the abbreviations stand for (or otherwise inform me where I could find this information). I assume that the "G" stands for Guberniya, but I am unsure of the others (I assume both "Dom" and "Na" are also abbreviations). Any other information that you might be able to provide on this address would be greatly appreciated. (I assume Berdichew is Berdichev.) A copy of the original is available upon request. Thank you in advance. ADDRESS WOLF GIDIZGEIM G. Berdiczew Dom. Globocki Na Starow (Starom? Starorn?) Bazar Best, Dan Schley Ithaca, NY
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Ella Sokol of Kiev
#ukraine
Les Shipnuck <shipnuck@...>
Researcher seeking to resume contact with genealogical researcher Ella
Sokol (Eleonora Sokolova) in Kiev, with whom I have lost contact. She did some research for my family several years ago, and I am disappointed that her email address seems to have changed, or she has retired. If anyone can connect me with her I would be very appreciative. I can be reached at: shipnuck@comcast.net Thank you in advance, Les Shipnuck California Researching: SHAINSKY Ignatovka, Obukhov, Rokitne, Germanivka KUTZENOK Malin, Nedashky TZIPNUIK Ignatovka, Yasnagorodka, Korostishev, Makarov ADAMSKY Ignatovka, Yasnagorodka OSTRONSKY Ignatovka
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ella Sokol of Kiev
#ukraine
Les Shipnuck <shipnuck@...>
Researcher seeking to resume contact with genealogical researcher Ella
Sokol (Eleonora Sokolova) in Kiev, with whom I have lost contact. She did some research for my family several years ago, and I am disappointed that her email address seems to have changed, or she has retired. If anyone can connect me with her I would be very appreciative. I can be reached at: shipnuck@comcast.net Thank you in advance, Les Shipnuck California Researching: SHAINSKY Ignatovka, Obukhov, Rokitne, Germanivka KUTZENOK Malin, Nedashky TZIPNUIK Ignatovka, Yasnagorodka, Korostishev, Makarov ADAMSKY Ignatovka, Yasnagorodka OSTRONSKY Ignatovka
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Re: Effect of Double Cousining on Gene Sharing Results
#dna
rayvenna@...
Lara Diamond has been working on a project for Ashkenazi Jews.
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Initial results can be found here: https://larasgenealogy.blogspot.com/2018/02/ashkenazic-jewish-shared-dna-survey.html [or https://tinyurl.com/yajqt2ol --Mod.] Information on how to contribute is here: https://larasgenealogy.blogspot.com/2018/01/ashkenazic-jewish-shared-dna-survey.html [or https://tinyurl.com/ydc3pyqn --Mod.] She also asks for information about known double relationships. I do like the idea of establishing your own "norm" within your own genetic lines, but it is insanely time consuming. I'm working on a spreadsheet comparing all of my kits now. It's revealing some fascinating information, but it's also taking a *lot* of work. Mindie Kaplan Montgomery Village, MD
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From: "Martin Davis martindavis@hotmail.com" <dna@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 6:18:42 AM ... According to Blaine Bettinger's graph ( >from the autosomal Shared cM Project - see https://i.stack.imgur.com/yJDKx.png), you would expect to see an average of 79cM shared with a single third cousin and the sharing can vary >from 0 to 198cM in total. That may increase, possibly even double, when the third cousin has 'reinforcement' >from both the maternal and paternal lines (logically it should lift the third cousin to a variety of second cousin - again reference the Bettinger graph). But...
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DNA Research #DNA Re: Effect of Double Cousining on Gene Sharing Results
#dna
rayvenna@...
Lara Diamond has been working on a project for Ashkenazi Jews.
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Initial results can be found here: https://larasgenealogy.blogspot.com/2018/02/ashkenazic-jewish-shared-dna-survey.html [or https://tinyurl.com/yajqt2ol --Mod.] Information on how to contribute is here: https://larasgenealogy.blogspot.com/2018/01/ashkenazic-jewish-shared-dna-survey.html [or https://tinyurl.com/ydc3pyqn --Mod.] She also asks for information about known double relationships. I do like the idea of establishing your own "norm" within your own genetic lines, but it is insanely time consuming. I'm working on a spreadsheet comparing all of my kits now. It's revealing some fascinating information, but it's also taking a *lot* of work. Mindie Kaplan Montgomery Village, MD
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From: "Martin Davis martindavis@hotmail.com" <dna@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2018 6:18:42 AM ... According to Blaine Bettinger's graph ( >from the autosomal Shared cM Project - see https://i.stack.imgur.com/yJDKx.png), you would expect to see an average of 79cM shared with a single third cousin and the sharing can vary >from 0 to 198cM in total. That may increase, possibly even double, when the third cousin has 'reinforcement' >from both the maternal and paternal lines (logically it should lift the third cousin to a variety of second cousin - again reference the Bettinger graph). But...
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Re: Ancestry Matches
#dna
Adam Cherson
Dear David,
Having been in a number of similar situations myself, I can only say that in most cases the 'fog' is caused by my own (and that of my co-researchers) lack of knowledge of the historical facts surrounding our heritages. The dna doesn't lie... Clearly there is a mystery there. Your job is to solve the case. The first thing I would try to do is determine whether you are related through her maternal or paternal sides. There are a number of techniques and tests which can help in this regard and there is no time to explain those here. If you are lucky enough to be related through her mother, then there may be a documentary trail you can pick up. Otherwise, things will be much more difficult since you will be confronted with an investigation into the biological parents of her adopted father. Take it one step at a time and keep seeking expert advice along the way. Best Wishes, Adam Cherson --- From: "David Goldman" <lugman@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 13:26:47 -0400 I am totally new to the issue of the DNA testing (and just read some article online about who can get access to DNA information >from genealogy research). I got my matches, and have contacted a number of people who also did the Ancestry test. Only a couple have so far replied, but one of them was classified as an "extremely high match" and I saw the closeness based on having 204 centimorgans over 8 segments. Well, we corresponded, and she told me that her mother's side was >from England/Wales, and her father (who was adopted) had origins supposedly in the Balkans. The only thing we had in common was that she lived in Alberta and I was born there myself. Can someone shed some light on this fog? How can this demonstrate an "extremely high" likelihood of being 2nd-3rd cousins when there were no common geographic origins at all?
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DNA Research #DNA RE: Ancestry Matches
#dna
Adam Cherson
Dear David,
Having been in a number of similar situations myself, I can only say that in most cases the 'fog' is caused by my own (and that of my co-researchers) lack of knowledge of the historical facts surrounding our heritages. The dna doesn't lie... Clearly there is a mystery there. Your job is to solve the case. The first thing I would try to do is determine whether you are related through her maternal or paternal sides. There are a number of techniques and tests which can help in this regard and there is no time to explain those here. If you are lucky enough to be related through her mother, then there may be a documentary trail you can pick up. Otherwise, things will be much more difficult since you will be confronted with an investigation into the biological parents of her adopted father. Take it one step at a time and keep seeking expert advice along the way. Best Wishes, Adam Cherson --- From: "David Goldman" <lugman@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 13:26:47 -0400 I am totally new to the issue of the DNA testing (and just read some article online about who can get access to DNA information >from genealogy research). I got my matches, and have contacted a number of people who also did the Ancestry test. Only a couple have so far replied, but one of them was classified as an "extremely high match" and I saw the closeness based on having 204 centimorgans over 8 segments. Well, we corresponded, and she told me that her mother's side was >from England/Wales, and her father (who was adopted) had origins supposedly in the Balkans. The only thing we had in common was that she lived in Alberta and I was born there myself. Can someone shed some light on this fog? How can this demonstrate an "extremely high" likelihood of being 2nd-3rd cousins when there were no common geographic origins at all?
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Else KNEDL (?Elsie KENDALL?)
#general
tfanders@...
Dear Genners,
My gAunt Elsa Knedl, born in Vienna on April 14, 1892 survived WW II hidden in Vienna. She came to the U.S. in 1947 and became a citizen in 1952. She lived her life in Buffalo at *** Delavan Ave, I am trying to fin out the date of her death and whether she married and had a family. She was married in Vienna but her husband, Julius Knedl died in 1930. In 1957 (age 65) she filed a SocSec claim. A note on that claim is dated Oct. 1976. Perhaps this marks the date of her death, perhaps at the age of 84. Might someone be able to help me find a Buffalo obituary or death notice and the associated information. I have tried numerous online searches without success. Many thanks. Tom Anders
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Else KNEDL (?Elsie KENDALL?)
#general
tfanders@...
Dear Genners,
My gAunt Elsa Knedl, born in Vienna on April 14, 1892 survived WW II hidden in Vienna. She came to the U.S. in 1947 and became a citizen in 1952. She lived her life in Buffalo at *** Delavan Ave, I am trying to fin out the date of her death and whether she married and had a family. She was married in Vienna but her husband, Julius Knedl died in 1930. In 1957 (age 65) she filed a SocSec claim. A note on that claim is dated Oct. 1976. Perhaps this marks the date of her death, perhaps at the age of 84. Might someone be able to help me find a Buffalo obituary or death notice and the associated information. I have tried numerous online searches without success. Many thanks. Tom Anders
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Re: Are most WEILLs leviyim?
#rabbinic
David Seldner
The Korban Netanel was not a levi. In Dr. Leopold Loewenstein's book about
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Rabbi Nathanael Weil >from 1898 there is nothing written about a possible levite ancestry. Since I was very involved with the Korban Netanel I am sure I would know about this. David Seldner, Karlsruhe
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From: tom <tomk@ecologicaltech.com> Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 10:12:55 -0400 A quick glance at the title pages of his books online, <http://www.hebrewbooks.org/30659>, and at his gravestone <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Die_Vorderseite_des_Grabsteines_auf_de m_Grab_Rabbi_Nathanael_Weil,_2013.JPG>, show no mention of his being a levite. (You might be mistaking "zt'l", "zikhron tzadik livrakhah", for indicating a levite?) ....... tom klein, toronto Bernard Weill <linktree@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic RE: Are most WEILLs leviyim?
#rabbinic
David Seldner
The Korban Netanel was not a levi. In Dr. Leopold Loewenstein's book about
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Rabbi Nathanael Weil >from 1898 there is nothing written about a possible levite ancestry. Since I was very involved with the Korban Netanel I am sure I would know about this. David Seldner, Karlsruhe
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From: tom <tomk@ecologicaltech.com> Date: Thu, 3 May 2018 10:12:55 -0400 A quick glance at the title pages of his books online, <http://www.hebrewbooks.org/30659>, and at his gravestone <https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Die_Vorderseite_des_Grabsteines_auf_de m_Grab_Rabbi_Nathanael_Weil,_2013.JPG>, show no mention of his being a levite. (You might be mistaking "zt'l", "zikhron tzadik livrakhah", for indicating a levite?) ....... tom klein, toronto Bernard Weill <linktree@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Effect of Double Cousining on Gene Sharing Results
#dna
Martin Davis (com)
Adam Cherson wrote: Wondering if anyone has done dna comparisons between
double-cousin relatives. For instance, supposing I have a third cousin whose parents are first cousins? How much more gene sharing is there between me and my third cousin than there would be otherwise? Can I just double the expected gene-sharing range since he is my third cousin in two ways? According to Blaine Bettinger's graph ( >from the autosomal Shared cM Project - see https://i.stack.imgur.com/yJDKx.png), you would expect to see an average of 79cM shared with a single third cousin and the sharing can vary >from 0 to 198cM in total. That may increase, possibly even double, when the third cousin has 'reinforcement' >from both the maternal and paternal lines (logically it should lift the third cousin to a variety of second cousin - again reference the Bettinger graph). But...... 1) Endogamy skews the statistics and so Jewish people almost automatically share a segment or two, three, four with other Jewish people. So you need to establish your own "norm" for segment matches. 2) Genetic recombinations place third cousins at the limit of automatic acceptance of identical by descent (IBD) without need for triangulation with other kits. Martin Davis London (UK)
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DNA Research #DNA Effect of Double Cousining on Gene Sharing Results
#dna
Martin Davis (com)
Adam Cherson wrote: Wondering if anyone has done dna comparisons between
double-cousin relatives. For instance, supposing I have a third cousin whose parents are first cousins? How much more gene sharing is there between me and my third cousin than there would be otherwise? Can I just double the expected gene-sharing range since he is my third cousin in two ways? According to Blaine Bettinger's graph ( >from the autosomal Shared cM Project - see https://i.stack.imgur.com/yJDKx.png), you would expect to see an average of 79cM shared with a single third cousin and the sharing can vary >from 0 to 198cM in total. That may increase, possibly even double, when the third cousin has 'reinforcement' >from both the maternal and paternal lines (logically it should lift the third cousin to a variety of second cousin - again reference the Bettinger graph). But...... 1) Endogamy skews the statistics and so Jewish people almost automatically share a segment or two, three, four with other Jewish people. So you need to establish your own "norm" for segment matches. 2) Genetic recombinations place third cousins at the limit of automatic acceptance of identical by descent (IBD) without need for triangulation with other kits. Martin Davis London (UK)
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Tiraspol KehilaLinks - News
#bessarabia
Inna Vayner <innanes@...>
Dear Tiraspol Researchers,
I wanted to let you know about a new addition to Tiraspol KehilaLinks site. We now have a section dedicated to Family Search under Research tab, where everyone can ask for help with research and post about their families and specific family members, and add corresponding photos and documents. Please feel free to send me your family research information if you'd like it to be included on the KehilaLinks site and check entries that have been already posted. https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/tiraspol/default.asp Inna Vayner Bessarabia SIG coordinator Tiraspol and Grigoriopol KehilaLinks owner ************************************************** Researching Vayner/Wainer/Weiner, Studinovskiy, Sheinfeld , Maizler, Dekhtyar/Dechtyar/Dechter, Sobol >from Tiraspol, Nezavertailvoka, Kishinev, and Odessa. *************************************************** Please join us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/Bessarabian.Moldavian.Jewishroots/
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Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Tiraspol KehilaLinks - News
#bessarabia
Inna Vayner <innanes@...>
Dear Tiraspol Researchers,
I wanted to let you know about a new addition to Tiraspol KehilaLinks site. We now have a section dedicated to Family Search under Research tab, where everyone can ask for help with research and post about their families and specific family members, and add corresponding photos and documents. Please feel free to send me your family research information if you'd like it to be included on the KehilaLinks site and check entries that have been already posted. https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/tiraspol/default.asp Inna Vayner Bessarabia SIG coordinator Tiraspol and Grigoriopol KehilaLinks owner ************************************************** Researching Vayner/Wainer/Weiner, Studinovskiy, Sheinfeld , Maizler, Dekhtyar/Dechtyar/Dechter, Sobol >from Tiraspol, Nezavertailvoka, Kishinev, and Odessa. *************************************************** Please join us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/Bessarabian.Moldavian.Jewishroots/
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May 17: Searching for Jewish Heritage with Joseph Berger at the Center for Jewish History in New York
#general
Moriah Amit
Please join us for the following program, presented by the Center for
Jewish History, Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute, and YIVO Institute for Jewish Research. First Person: Jewish Stories, Jewish Lives: Searching for Jewish Heritage with Joseph Berger Date: May 17, 6:30 PM Place: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street, New York, NY 10011 Description: After his parents died, Joseph Berger and his sister went back to Poland and visited their parents' childhood homes for the first time. What they discovered on their "roots journey" was both emotional and surprising. Mr. Berger, a former New York Times reporter, and the author of the acclaimed memoir, Displaced Persons: Growing up American after the Holocaust, will share stories and photos >from his fascinating journey and offers tips for successful family searches abroad. Reflecting on the current political climate in Poland and how it might impact a similar journey today, he will be joined by Jonathan Ornstein, Executive Director of the JCC in Krakow, and Helise Lieberman, Director of the Taube Center for the Renewal of Jewish Life in Poland. Tickets: $15 general; $10 CJH/partner members, seniors; $5 students; purchase online at https://www.smarttix.com/Event/sea454 Moriah Amit, New York
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen May 17: Searching for Jewish Heritage with Joseph Berger at the Center for Jewish History in New York
#general
Moriah Amit
Please join us for the following program, presented by the Center for
Jewish History, Ackman & Ziff Family Genealogy Institute, and YIVO Institute for Jewish Research. First Person: Jewish Stories, Jewish Lives: Searching for Jewish Heritage with Joseph Berger Date: May 17, 6:30 PM Place: Center for Jewish History, 15 West 16th Street, New York, NY 10011 Description: After his parents died, Joseph Berger and his sister went back to Poland and visited their parents' childhood homes for the first time. What they discovered on their "roots journey" was both emotional and surprising. Mr. Berger, a former New York Times reporter, and the author of the acclaimed memoir, Displaced Persons: Growing up American after the Holocaust, will share stories and photos >from his fascinating journey and offers tips for successful family searches abroad. Reflecting on the current political climate in Poland and how it might impact a similar journey today, he will be joined by Jonathan Ornstein, Executive Director of the JCC in Krakow, and Helise Lieberman, Director of the Taube Center for the Renewal of Jewish Life in Poland. Tickets: $15 general; $10 CJH/partner members, seniors; $5 students; purchase online at https://www.smarttix.com/Event/sea454 Moriah Amit, New York
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