Dear Genners,

I am planning a trip to Ostrog in the Ukraine. Ostrog is near Rivne. Could
anyone who has been to Ostrog are that area please contact me regarding
hotels, museum, archives etc.

Regards

Alex Sussman

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Dear Genners,

I am planning a trip to Ostrog in the Ukraine. Ostrog is near Rivne. Could
anyone who has been to Ostrog are that area please contact me regarding
hotels, museum, archives etc.

Regards

Alex Sussman

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Dear Cousins,

I ask what is probably an impossible research favor of our British cousins.

I had a relative born Israel (Sruel) WOLINSKY c1845 in Boguslav (63 miles
SSE of Kiev.) I know that his parents and siblings moved to Odessa around
1898. At some point Israel immigrated to London, and owned an art gallery.
No one is sure whether he married or not, only that he was "a cruel
intellectual" and that he "sired many illegitimate children. He died in
London in 1936. I don't even know if he changed his name. I tried looking
him up on one of the British sites, but had no luck.

If anyone in London has nothing better to do on a rainy day...

Please write to me at sorlen@u.arizona.edu

Best, Steve Orlen

Dear Cousins,

I ask what is probably an impossible research favor of our British cousins.

I had a relative born Israel (Sruel) WOLINSKY c1845 in Boguslav (63 miles
SSE of Kiev.) I know that his parents and siblings moved to Odessa around
1898. At some point Israel immigrated to London, and owned an art gallery.
No one is sure whether he married or not, only that he was "a cruel
intellectual" and that he "sired many illegitimate children. He died in
London in 1936. I don't even know if he changed his name. I tried looking
him up on one of the British sites, but had no luck.

If anyone in London has nothing better to do on a rainy day...

Please write to me at sorlen@u.arizona.edu

Best, Steve Orlen

My ggreatgrandmother travelled, as a widow with four children, from
Novarodok to the USA passing through Liverpool probably around 1860-1880. In
Liverpool she met and married a gentleman who we believe was single and
probably a goldsmith or silversmith (which was her trade in Novarodok). The
marriage took place either in England or the USA (in Connecticut where she
settled-New Haven ).

Does this story "ring a bell" with anyone, esoecially >from England.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat Israel

My ggreatgrandmother travelled, as a widow with four children, from
Novarodok to the USA passing through Liverpool probably around 1860-1880. In
Liverpool she met and married a gentleman who we believe was single and
probably a goldsmith or silversmith (which was her trade in Novarodok). The
marriage took place either in England or the USA (in Connecticut where she
settled-New Haven ).

Does this story "ring a bell" with anyone, esoecially >from England.

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat Israel

The connection between Yehuda/Judah-Louis/Lion is that the emblem of the
tribe of Yehuda was a Lion, although I believe that most "Arieh" are
"Louis".

Yoni Ben-Ari,
Efrat, Israel

The connection between Yehuda/Judah-Louis/Lion is that the emblem of the
tribe of Yehuda was a Lion, although I believe that most "Arieh" are
"Louis".

Yoni Ben-Ari,
Efrat, Israel

b"h
Vienna, Feb. 21.2004

Dear JewishGenners,

da capo for Fanny:

In Vienna and in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the name Fanny was
very common and an abbrev. for Franziska. In assimilated Jewish
families, a "secular" adaption of names like Feige was a normal
procedure.

Another example: on a Karplus gravestone in Osoblaha /CSR there is
a Hebrew name "Hendl", which appears as "Johanna" inthe 19. cent. on
our Family Tree.

Question:
I wonder if there is scientific literature about similar changes of names
and also surnames of assimilated Jewish families.

Thanks,
Hermann David Karplus

b"h
Vienna, Feb. 21.2004

Dear JewishGenners,

da capo for Fanny:

In Vienna and in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the name Fanny was
very common and an abbrev. for Franziska. In assimilated Jewish
families, a "secular" adaption of names like Feige was a normal
procedure.

Another example: on a Karplus gravestone in Osoblaha /CSR there is
a Hebrew name "Hendl", which appears as "Johanna" inthe 19. cent. on
our Family Tree.

Question:
I wonder if there is scientific literature about similar changes of names
and also surnames of assimilated Jewish families.

Thanks,
Hermann David Karplus

Does any one know something about my ZUCKERMAN family >from those towns:
Chyrow (or Khyrow) ,Rudnik and Jaslo?
My great grand grand father was Kalman ZUCKERMAN who married in Chyrow
Chaye - Pasie ZUCKERMAN, had 6 children. One of them was Menachem -Yehuda
ZUCKERMAN marrid to Hena ZUCKERMAN , They had 7 children in Chyrow. One of
them was my grand father Elimelech (or Meilech) ZUCKERMAN who was a
wonderful cantor, a musician who wrote hundrads of melodies for the
synagogue, and a schochet. He had 9 children,inTarnobrzeg, in Rudnik, and
in Jaslo -
one of them is my father.

We want to know who were Kalman's parents, where from?
What were Hena and Chaye Pasie maiden names
Who were Kalman's brothers and sisters? and more about brothers and sisters
of Menachem - Yehuda who died very early when he was only around 45-50
years old.

(we had made a big search on JRI of Poland!!)

Thanks in advance!! Answers to :
Leah Teicher,
anafa-e@zahav.net.il

searching ZUCKERMAN,
JUST (>from Tarnobrzeg, Zmigrod, Krosno),
TEICHER (>from Kolomyya, Zablotov)
SCHUBER (>from Kolomyya, Zablotov, Kolaszkowce)
GORENSHTEIN (>from Rovno)
BARAL (>from Rovno) CHORONCEZ (>from Rovno)

Does any one know something about my ZUCKERMAN family >from those towns:
Chyrow (or Khyrow) ,Rudnik and Jaslo?
My great grand grand father was Kalman ZUCKERMAN who married in Chyrow
Chaye - Pasie ZUCKERMAN, had 6 children. One of them was Menachem -Yehuda
ZUCKERMAN marrid to Hena ZUCKERMAN , They had 7 children in Chyrow. One of
them was my grand father Elimelech (or Meilech) ZUCKERMAN who was a
wonderful cantor, a musician who wrote hundrads of melodies for the
synagogue, and a schochet. He had 9 children,inTarnobrzeg, in Rudnik, and
in Jaslo -
one of them is my father.

We want to know who were Kalman's parents, where from?
What were Hena and Chaye Pasie maiden names
Who were Kalman's brothers and sisters? and more about brothers and sisters
of Menachem - Yehuda who died very early when he was only around 45-50
years old.

(we had made a big search on JRI of Poland!!)

Thanks in advance!! Answers to :
Leah Teicher,
anafa-e@zahav.net.il

searching ZUCKERMAN,
JUST (>from Tarnobrzeg, Zmigrod, Krosno),
TEICHER (>from Kolomyya, Zablotov)
SCHUBER (>from Kolomyya, Zablotov, Kolaszkowce)
GORENSHTEIN (>from Rovno)
BARAL (>from Rovno) CHORONCEZ (>from Rovno)

I recently found an entry on a ship's manifest in 1888 which I believe
is my grandfather, but the age given is 16. At the time of his arrival
he was married with a child and another on the way. His birth year is
usually given as 1864 or 1867 and his marriage year 1887.
What would be the benefit of claiming to be 16 when one was actually
over 21? Was there a cheaper fare, even if the person was traveling alone?
When he was naturalized in 1891 he said he was under 18 when he arrived
in the US.
I believe he lied on his naturalization certificate in order to become
a citizen before his wife arrived here in 1892. I have been told that
if one was under 18 when one arrived he did not have to fill out the
declaration of intention which would give awkward details such as the
fact he had not been here five years yet!
In the 1900 census he gave his age as 32.
Comments will be appreciated.
--
Paul Silverstone
New York
please reply to paulh@aya.yale.edu

I recently found an entry on a ship's manifest in 1888 which I believe
is my grandfather, but the age given is 16. At the time of his arrival
he was married with a child and another on the way. His birth year is
usually given as 1864 or 1867 and his marriage year 1887.
What would be the benefit of claiming to be 16 when one was actually
over 21? Was there a cheaper fare, even if the person was traveling alone?
When he was naturalized in 1891 he said he was under 18 when he arrived
in the US.
I believe he lied on his naturalization certificate in order to become
a citizen before his wife arrived here in 1892. I have been told that
if one was under 18 when one arrived he did not have to fill out the
declaration of intention which would give awkward details such as the
fact he had not been here five years yet!
In the 1900 census he gave his age as 32.
Comments will be appreciated.
--
Paul Silverstone
New York
please reply to paulh@aya.yale.edu

My husband's great-grandmother was called Fannie here in the US. On her
tombstone a name is written in Hebrew which was previously translated
for me as one of the following (copying >from my notes, no two
translations were the same):

-- Fedel Vita (?? women didn't have Hebrew names -- this is Yiddish and
I'm not sure of it) daughter of David
-- Fradel Vitah
-- Fradel Vita
-- Fradl Vita
-- Fraedel Vita
-- Fraidel Vitta
-- Fraydel Vitah
-- Fraydel Vita
-- Frazel Veetah
-- Freddel Vita
-- Freidel Vita? (Yiiddish names)
-- Freidl Vite
-- Frodel(?) (or Fradel(?)) Vitta
-- P-V-A-D-A-L- V-V-Y-T-A bat David (never come across a name like this
at all! Something like Fuidal Vita perhaps??)
-- Poazal (Foazal) Vita
-- Puazal? Vita


This family came >from Galicia, more specifically the area around Dembitz
(at least that's what we think). Fannie/Fradel Vita (or whatever) was

from Gorlitz, Galicia, which appears to be present-day Gorlice, Poland.

I don't know if there was a standard correlation between Fradel and
Fannie or not.

-- Mary Taffet

My husband's great-grandmother was called Fannie here in the US. On her
tombstone a name is written in Hebrew which was previously translated
for me as one of the following (copying >from my notes, no two
translations were the same):

-- Fedel Vita (?? women didn't have Hebrew names -- this is Yiddish and
I'm not sure of it) daughter of David
-- Fradel Vitah
-- Fradel Vita
-- Fradl Vita
-- Fraedel Vita
-- Fraidel Vitta
-- Fraydel Vitah
-- Fraydel Vita
-- Frazel Veetah
-- Freddel Vita
-- Freidel Vita? (Yiiddish names)
-- Freidl Vite
-- Frodel(?) (or Fradel(?)) Vitta
-- P-V-A-D-A-L- V-V-Y-T-A bat David (never come across a name like this
at all! Something like Fuidal Vita perhaps??)
-- Poazal (Foazal) Vita
-- Puazal? Vita


This family came >from Galicia, more specifically the area around Dembitz
(at least that's what we think). Fannie/Fradel Vita (or whatever) was

from Gorlitz, Galicia, which appears to be present-day Gorlice, Poland.

I don't know if there was a standard correlation between Fradel and
Fannie or not.

-- Mary Taffet

Beyrish: is this a male or a female name?

Robert A. Dodell
RADodell@Worldnet.att.net

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Beyrish: is this a male or a female name?

Robert A. Dodell
RADodell@Worldnet.att.net

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