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Re: Can someone on a ship disappear? #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Anything is possible! But consider that the child might have gotten sick,
the family didn't want to lose the money paid for all the tickets, so they
left the child with an Aunt/Grandparents/oldest sibling who was married.
Remember that the family left their home, sold everything they could not
carry, left work-what could they do?

I know of one case where the ship left, measles broke out, the ship went
back to port and left the sick kids. The descendent of this family still
wonders what happened to the little child left behind when the family went
to the New World. It was a different world.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


Surnames Associated with Shochets #general

hekenvin@...
 

Steve Orlen wrote: "Does anyone know of surnames associated with the profession of shochet?"

A man named SCHECHTER who married my great-grandfather's sister was the son of the town shochet in Skala Podol'skaya (Ukraine). And just the other night, I learned that the original name of the father of our cousin surnamed Mass was MIYASNIK. In Russian, "miyasa" or "m'yasa" means "meat," and I'd bet our cousin's paternal ancestors included a shochet.

Helene Kenvin
Researching: WAXMAN, EINBINDER, COHEN (Kalarash, Bessarabia); WEISMAN (Semanov-Trembovla, Ukraine); WIESENTHAL (Skala Podol'skaya, Ukraine); SCHWARTZ, WEISS, BALAJTI (Miskolc, Hungary); COHEN (Gnesen, Prussia; 19th century NYC and Richmond, VA); JACOBS (19th century NYC and Richmond, VA); ROTHOLZ-ROADHOUSE (Hamburg; 19th century Richmond, VA and Kansas City, KS); KHENVIN-ZEITSEV (Kremenchug, Ukraine); WALTMAN, GOODMAN (Chotin-Zhvanits, Bessarabia).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Can someone on a ship disappear? #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Anything is possible! But consider that the child might have gotten sick,
the family didn't want to lose the money paid for all the tickets, so they
left the child with an Aunt/Grandparents/oldest sibling who was married.
Remember that the family left their home, sold everything they could not
carry, left work-what could they do?

I know of one case where the ship left, measles broke out, the ship went
back to port and left the sick kids. The descendent of this family still
wonders what happened to the little child left behind when the family went
to the New World. It was a different world.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surnames Associated with Shochets #general

hekenvin@...
 

Steve Orlen wrote: "Does anyone know of surnames associated with the profession of shochet?"

A man named SCHECHTER who married my great-grandfather's sister was the son of the town shochet in Skala Podol'skaya (Ukraine). And just the other night, I learned that the original name of the father of our cousin surnamed Mass was MIYASNIK. In Russian, "miyasa" or "m'yasa" means "meat," and I'd bet our cousin's paternal ancestors included a shochet.

Helene Kenvin
Researching: WAXMAN, EINBINDER, COHEN (Kalarash, Bessarabia); WEISMAN (Semanov-Trembovla, Ukraine); WIESENTHAL (Skala Podol'skaya, Ukraine); SCHWARTZ, WEISS, BALAJTI (Miskolc, Hungary); COHEN (Gnesen, Prussia; 19th century NYC and Richmond, VA); JACOBS (19th century NYC and Richmond, VA); ROTHOLZ-ROADHOUSE (Hamburg; 19th century Richmond, VA and Kansas City, KS); KHENVIN-ZEITSEV (Kremenchug, Ukraine); WALTMAN, GOODMAN (Chotin-Zhvanits, Bessarabia).


Alsace or Lorraine #general

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

For genners not yet used to do genealogy in France,
I have to repeat that Alsace-Lorraine never existed.
There were two different provinces : Alsace and Lorraine
with each several departments, so several departemental archives,
differents laws, differents sources.
So, it is necessary to know the place more precisely.

For Deborah Scheimer, who is searching for Emmanuel BAER
in a certain Sultzen (which does not exist) I have some reasons
to think that it was in Soultz-sous-Foret, in department of Bas-Rhin,
Alsace.
I write her directly.

Micheline GUTMANN
asso.genami@free.fr
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Alsace or Lorraine #general

Association GenAmi <asso.genami@...>
 

For genners not yet used to do genealogy in France,
I have to repeat that Alsace-Lorraine never existed.
There were two different provinces : Alsace and Lorraine
with each several departments, so several departemental archives,
differents laws, differents sources.
So, it is necessary to know the place more precisely.

For Deborah Scheimer, who is searching for Emmanuel BAER
in a certain Sultzen (which does not exist) I have some reasons
to think that it was in Soultz-sous-Foret, in department of Bas-Rhin,
Alsace.
I write her directly.

Micheline GUTMANN
asso.genami@free.fr
Site GenAmi : http://asso.genami.free.fr


Zesel #general

Monty <montagues@...>
 

"Family lore has it that my grandfather's mother's name was Zesel. I have
never heard of that name before. I wonder if: (1) other people have heard of
this name; and/or 2) could it be a variation of another name?"

It simply means "sweet one" inYiddish

Monty Starr
Birmingham UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Zesel #general

Monty <montagues@...>
 

"Family lore has it that my grandfather's mother's name was Zesel. I have
never heard of that name before. I wonder if: (1) other people have heard of
this name; and/or 2) could it be a variation of another name?"

It simply means "sweet one" inYiddish

Monty Starr
Birmingham UK


Name changes in the UK #general

David Kravitz
 

This morning I received my new passport, a very official document. At my
request it has my "new" name, adopted by me in 1975. It only took a cover
letter, no legal document, no announcement in the press. I hope that
clarifies the situation once and for all. Incidentally, when my younger
daughter married she did not adopt her husband's surname. Consequently when
I came across the entries for her two children whilst searching at the
Family Records Center in Islingtion, London, I discovered that each child
had two entries with different surnames but only a single certificate
number.

David Kravitz
Bournemouth, England

(emails with attachments should be sent to
david_kravitz@lycos.co.uk)


Surname of shochet #general

Monty <montagues@...>
 

Does anyone know of surnames associated with the profession of shochet
(especially Lithuanian?

An obvious one would be SCHECHTER

Monty Starr
Birmingham UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Name changes in the UK #general

David Kravitz
 

This morning I received my new passport, a very official document. At my
request it has my "new" name, adopted by me in 1975. It only took a cover
letter, no legal document, no announcement in the press. I hope that
clarifies the situation once and for all. Incidentally, when my younger
daughter married she did not adopt her husband's surname. Consequently when
I came across the entries for her two children whilst searching at the
Family Records Center in Islingtion, London, I discovered that each child
had two entries with different surnames but only a single certificate
number.

David Kravitz
Bournemouth, England

(emails with attachments should be sent to
david_kravitz@lycos.co.uk)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname of shochet #general

Monty <montagues@...>
 

Does anyone know of surnames associated with the profession of shochet
(especially Lithuanian?

An obvious one would be SCHECHTER

Monty Starr
Birmingham UK


Surnames Associated with the Profession Shochet #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I know that the name REZNIK was a name that shochets in the Ukraine had.
The shochets on my paternal grandmother's side had this name.
But the shochets on my paternal grandfather's side all had a name that is
not connect with the profession. - GITNER.

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surnames Associated with the Profession Shochet #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

I know that the name REZNIK was a name that shochets in the Ukraine had.
The shochets on my paternal grandmother's side had this name.
But the shochets on my paternal grandfather's side all had a name that is
not connect with the profession. - GITNER.

Rose Feldman
Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


Yad Vashem Hall of Names back on line #general

Rony <golanron@...>
 

The Yad Vashem Hall of Names is back on line.

The search page is available at:

http://npe.yadvashem.org/sapir_iis/sapir_heb.htm

The page is in Hebrew, and one can choose an English interface.

I have no further information about the site, and do not know if it has been
officially announced.

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel

Researching:

KRAMARUTSKY (KRAMARUCKI)- Kaunas, Vandziogala- Lithuania
SLOMOVITS (SLOMOWITZ) - Sighet, Rozavlea, Stramtura- Romania
EISDORFER- Szabolc district- Hungary
NAJMAN (NEIMAN) - Bedevla - Ukraine

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yad Vashem Hall of Names back on line #general

Rony <golanron@...>
 

The Yad Vashem Hall of Names is back on line.

The search page is available at:

http://npe.yadvashem.org/sapir_iis/sapir_heb.htm

The page is in Hebrew, and one can choose an English interface.

I have no further information about the site, and do not know if it has been
officially announced.

Rony Golan
Ramat Hasharon, Israel

Researching:

KRAMARUTSKY (KRAMARUCKI)- Kaunas, Vandziogala- Lithuania
SLOMOVITS (SLOMOWITZ) - Sighet, Rozavlea, Stramtura- Romania
EISDORFER- Szabolc district- Hungary
NAJMAN (NEIMAN) - Bedevla - Ukraine

MODERATOR NOTE: Not all browsers will support the search functions.


Relatives in Israel (was SWEARINGEN) #general

J&B Davis <bdavis@...>
 

Following on the recent rather sweeping statement >from Martha Lev-Zion

"And whether you are aware of it or not, there is not a Jewish family
on earth that does not have relatives here in Israel"

I wish to say that I have been researching my husband's ancestry for
nearly 40 years and have still not found any Israeli relatives for
him, despite going back 7 to 8 generations on almost all lines
(furthest back in Lithuania and Prussia in 1830s and London England
in 1722 ... (place of origin unknown).

However, it was only within the past 7 years that I discovered that I
had first cousins born and still living in Israel (whom I have met),
so perhaps there is still some hope for my husband!!

Beverley Davis
Melbourne, Australia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Relatives in Israel (was SWEARINGEN) #general

J&B Davis <bdavis@...>
 

Following on the recent rather sweeping statement >from Martha Lev-Zion

"And whether you are aware of it or not, there is not a Jewish family
on earth that does not have relatives here in Israel"

I wish to say that I have been researching my husband's ancestry for
nearly 40 years and have still not found any Israeli relatives for
him, despite going back 7 to 8 generations on almost all lines
(furthest back in Lithuania and Prussia in 1830s and London England
in 1722 ... (place of origin unknown).

However, it was only within the past 7 years that I discovered that I
had first cousins born and still living in Israel (whom I have met),
so perhaps there is still some hope for my husband!!

Beverley Davis
Melbourne, Australia


Searching for SIMON family of Pittsburgh #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

I'm looking for family of SIMON/SMITH/FRIEDSAM of Pittsburgh, PA.
If anyone knows of any members of this family, please contact me privately at ylca87@aol.com
Thank you.

--
Best regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan
Yorba Linda, CA
Searching FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER (Warszawa & Bedzin, Poland), BARSKA/BARSKY (Odessa), GOLDBERG (Russia?), FELDMAN (Kovno), SPRINGER, HAMBURGER (Poland), ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ, LEVINE, LUPOLOR, FRIEDSAM, COHN/COHEN/KOHN/KOHEN/KAHN.  NEWHAN/NEUHAN (Hesse Cassel, Baltimore), GERSTEN (Obertyn, Galacia), BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), ANTZEL (Poland), BLUM, ROTH, ROCKOVITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for SIMON family of Pittsburgh #general

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

I'm looking for family of SIMON/SMITH/FRIEDSAM of Pittsburgh, PA.
If anyone knows of any members of this family, please contact me privately at ylca87@aol.com
Thank you.

--
Best regards,
Connie Fisher Newhan
Yorba Linda, CA
Searching FISHER/FISCHER/FISZER (Warszawa & Bedzin, Poland), BARSKA/BARSKY (Odessa), GOLDBERG (Russia?), FELDMAN (Kovno), SPRINGER, HAMBURGER (Poland), ABRAMS, RABINOWITZ, LEVINE, LUPOLOR, FRIEDSAM, COHN/COHEN/KOHN/KOHEN/KAHN.  NEWHAN/NEUHAN (Hesse Cassel, Baltimore), GERSTEN (Obertyn, Galacia), BOHORODCZANER (Potok Zloty, Ukraine), ANTZEL (Poland), BLUM, ROTH, ROCKOVITZ