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Rabbi Joseph Hirsch Dunner #general

NUGIT@ATT.Net <telecom@...>
 

Looking for information on brothers and first cousins of Rabbi Joseph Hirsch
Dunner (1833-1911)

I have his family tree of descendants in Hebrew, and English version would
be helpfull.

Thxs: Phil Levinson

Looking for descendants of Alter Levinson - Bronx NY (1880-1975)


Where would this person have learned to grow vegetables in a hothouse in Poland before WWII #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

A family member after escaping >from Warsaw in 1940 to Russia, grew
vegetables in a hothouse in Siberia before joining Anders' army. If anyone
has any ideas or clues where could he have studied agriculture to know of
this - in the 1902s or 30s in Poland, we would appreciate it.

Rose Feldman

Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Rabbi Joseph Hirsch Dunner #general

NUGIT@ATT.Net <telecom@...>
 

Looking for information on brothers and first cousins of Rabbi Joseph Hirsch
Dunner (1833-1911)

I have his family tree of descendants in Hebrew, and English version would
be helpfull.

Thxs: Phil Levinson

Looking for descendants of Alter Levinson - Bronx NY (1880-1975)


JRI Poland #Poland Where would this person have learned to grow vegetables in a hothouse in Poland before WWII #poland

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

A family member after escaping >from Warsaw in 1940 to Russia, grew
vegetables in a hothouse in Siberia before joining Anders' army. If anyone
has any ideas or clues where could he have studied agriculture to know of
this - in the 1902s or 30s in Poland, we would appreciate it.

Rose Feldman

Shalom and see you in Jerusalem!
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
July 4-9, 2004
www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


Rosenthal & Monne from Suwalki #lithuania

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Judith's question about Rose Rosenthal yielded an interesting search
result.

I searched the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland database
http://www.jri-poland.org for the surname ROSENTHAL. Suwalki is in
Poland and the JRI-Poland database currently has 4467 Birth, Marriage
and Death records >from Suwalki.

The JRI-Poland database has an 1856 Bialystok marriage record for Anna
MUNK and Gershko ROSENTAL. It states that Gershko was >from Suwalki!
This record was microfilmed by the Mormons and can be found in LDS film
number 747,735 Perhaps

I then looked at the Landsman publication, Volume 3, Number 1, Summer
1992, where they have 1856-1867 Marriages records for Suwalki. Once
again the ROSENTHAL/MUNK marriage record appears. It is listed in 1856
record number 23, LDS film number 752,622. In that record it shows that
the bride was >from Bialystok. In the Suwalki marriage record the bride's
given name is listed as Chana. So the ROSENTHAL's listed their marriage
in two places; the hometown of the bride and the hometown of the groom

It is too much of a coincidence to think that this is the record that
Judith is looking for?

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills


<I am a new member here and an researching the surnames of ROSENTHAL and

MONNE. On Rose Rosenthal death certificate here in New Zealand it lists
her Father as Israel ROSENTHAL and her mother Hanne ( maiden surname of
) MONNE. Rose' certificate says she was born in Suwalki about 1857.
She died in New Zealand. Any help would be very much appreciated as I
tried to search the database and MONNE comes up as Man.
Thanking you in advance
Judith
j.larsen@paradise.net.nz>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Rosenthal & Monne from Suwalki #lithuania

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

Judith's question about Rose Rosenthal yielded an interesting search
result.

I searched the Jewish Records Indexing-Poland database
http://www.jri-poland.org for the surname ROSENTHAL. Suwalki is in
Poland and the JRI-Poland database currently has 4467 Birth, Marriage
and Death records >from Suwalki.

The JRI-Poland database has an 1856 Bialystok marriage record for Anna
MUNK and Gershko ROSENTAL. It states that Gershko was >from Suwalki!
This record was microfilmed by the Mormons and can be found in LDS film
number 747,735 Perhaps

I then looked at the Landsman publication, Volume 3, Number 1, Summer
1992, where they have 1856-1867 Marriages records for Suwalki. Once
again the ROSENTHAL/MUNK marriage record appears. It is listed in 1856
record number 23, LDS film number 752,622. In that record it shows that
the bride was >from Bialystok. In the Suwalki marriage record the bride's
given name is listed as Chana. So the ROSENTHAL's listed their marriage
in two places; the hometown of the bride and the hometown of the groom

It is too much of a coincidence to think that this is the record that
Judith is looking for?

Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills


<I am a new member here and an researching the surnames of ROSENTHAL and

MONNE. On Rose Rosenthal death certificate here in New Zealand it lists
her Father as Israel ROSENTHAL and her mother Hanne ( maiden surname of
) MONNE. Rose' certificate says she was born in Suwalki about 1857.
She died in New Zealand. Any help would be very much appreciated as I
tried to search the database and MONNE comes up as Man.
Thanking you in advance
Judith
j.larsen@paradise.net.nz>


Re: Proper form of address & how to find towns and counties in the US #general

Barry E Chernick
 

Hanna's posting - "A posting on 1/8, regarding proper form of
addresses, leads me to repeat the question I have been
unsuccessful in posting
Where to find US counties in which towns and cities are located.
I have found a site for Massachusetts which lists the counties
and all their towns (not alpha by town, unfortunately) but nothing
comparable for any other state. Any suggestions?"
There is a USGS national maping information web site that has the
"official" list of all place names in the US, not just cities but
"evertything". http://geonames.usgs.gov/ and
http://geonames.usgs.gov/gnishome.html gives an explanation of the
database. Searches can be done at
http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form . I was
able to make search of "populated places" in King County Washington and
got back a list of the populated places in my county, 385 of them, in
Alpha order. Make sure you restrict it to "populated places" or you will
get things down to the shopping center level. Go through the "feature
type" drop down menu to see what is available.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Proper form of address & how to find towns and counties in the US #general

Barry E Chernick
 

Hanna's posting - "A posting on 1/8, regarding proper form of
addresses, leads me to repeat the question I have been
unsuccessful in posting
Where to find US counties in which towns and cities are located.
I have found a site for Massachusetts which lists the counties
and all their towns (not alpha by town, unfortunately) but nothing
comparable for any other state. Any suggestions?"
There is a USGS national maping information web site that has the
"official" list of all place names in the US, not just cities but
"evertything". http://geonames.usgs.gov/ and
http://geonames.usgs.gov/gnishome.html gives an explanation of the
database. Searches can be done at
http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form . I was
able to make search of "populated places" in King County Washington and
got back a list of the populated places in my county, 385 of them, in
Alpha order. Make sure you restrict it to "populated places" or you will
get things down to the shopping center level. Go through the "feature
type" drop down menu to see what is available.
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


Tel-Aviv Branch IGS January meeting - Haganah Archives #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

"The Haganah Archives" by Mr. Shimri Salomon, a member of the
staff at the Haganah Archives in Tel-Aviv, will be the presentation
at the January meeting of the Tel-Aviv Branch of the Israel Genealogical
Society. Shimri will discuss the archive, the catalogue system of
the archive, plans to include other para-military archives >from before
the War of Independence and will bring examples of materials that can be
found in the archive. The meeting will take place on Monday January 12,
2004 at Beit Hatanach, 16 Rothschild Blvd. Tel-Aviv, at 19:00. The
meeting will be in Hebrew. 20 shekel entrance fee for non-members.
You are cordially invited to use our library which is open >from 18:00-19:00.
For further information you can contact: Rose Feldman at:
rosef@post.tau.ac.il or at: 03- 641 3856

Membership dues of NIS 220 for 2004 are now due.The dues are payable in
January, February and March only and not to throughout the year. You can
pay in 3 installments, checks should be written to the order of the:
Israel Genealogical Society. They can be brought to the next meeting or
sent by mail

The Israel Genealogy Society
igs@isragen.org.il
www.isragen.org.il
P.O.Box 4270 Jerusalem 91041
Chana Furman ehfurman@netvision.net.il Phone: (972) (8) 688 0884


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tel-Aviv Branch IGS January meeting - Haganah Archives #general

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

"The Haganah Archives" by Mr. Shimri Salomon, a member of the
staff at the Haganah Archives in Tel-Aviv, will be the presentation
at the January meeting of the Tel-Aviv Branch of the Israel Genealogical
Society. Shimri will discuss the archive, the catalogue system of
the archive, plans to include other para-military archives >from before
the War of Independence and will bring examples of materials that can be
found in the archive. The meeting will take place on Monday January 12,
2004 at Beit Hatanach, 16 Rothschild Blvd. Tel-Aviv, at 19:00. The
meeting will be in Hebrew. 20 shekel entrance fee for non-members.
You are cordially invited to use our library which is open >from 18:00-19:00.
For further information you can contact: Rose Feldman at:
rosef@post.tau.ac.il or at: 03- 641 3856

Membership dues of NIS 220 for 2004 are now due.The dues are payable in
January, February and March only and not to throughout the year. You can
pay in 3 installments, checks should be written to the order of the:
Israel Genealogical Society. They can be brought to the next meeting or
sent by mail

The Israel Genealogy Society
igs@isragen.org.il
www.isragen.org.il
P.O.Box 4270 Jerusalem 91041
Chana Furman ehfurman@netvision.net.il Phone: (972) (8) 688 0884


Re: NYC officiating rabbis #rabbinic

E
 

On 200.01.09, Carol Clapsaddle <clapsaddle@barak-online.net> wrote:

Does anyone know how to find a list of rabbis authorized by the City
of New York to conduct Jewish weddings in about 1907?
Try a FOIA request to the city for the registry. Any rabbi qualified
to officiate in the city has to register. the law is still on the
books. I am, for example, registered.

Rabbi Ed Goldstein


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: NYC officiating rabbis #rabbinic

E
 

On 200.01.09, Carol Clapsaddle <clapsaddle@barak-online.net> wrote:

Does anyone know how to find a list of rabbis authorized by the City
of New York to conduct Jewish weddings in about 1907?
Try a FOIA request to the city for the registry. Any rabbi qualified
to officiate in the city has to register. the law is still on the
books. I am, for example, registered.

Rabbi Ed Goldstein


SCHATZKES and YOFFE families #rabbinic

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I've asked this before but since much of my previous corresponce was
lost:

In searching my late great grandmother's family, I've come across
several personalities, family names, and/or places which are a
puzzle that I cannot seem to put together.

My great greatuncle, Chaim Dov KANTOR, of the Moshav Meir Shfeya
in Israel, born in Pinsk (or Karlin), writes in his diary of a
rabbinical figure in his family (probably during the first half of
the 19th cent. in Pinsk or Karlin) named Mordechai (RUDINER or
RUZINER), possibly being an AB"D there.

In the course of my search I came across both family names of
SCHATZKES of the famous Lomza Rav who eventually came to Yeshiva
College in New York (RIETS). By coincidence or not, Chaim Dov's
mother's maiden name was SCHATZ, could it have been SCHATZKES and
not SCHATZ?

It was also mentioned to me by one of the WEISFISCH family in
Jerusalem, who are descendants of my above uncle Chaim Dov, of some
connection with Reb Mordechai Gimpel YOFFE who came many years ago
to Eretz Yisrael (to Or Yehuda?).

In various notes and sketches that haven't been verified, it's
mentioned that the SCHATZ side may have stemmed >from the family of
Reb Chaim meVolozhin. >from the KANTOR side appears the name of
Eliezer >from Slonim.

To my question: Does anyone have the family trees of the SCHATZKES
family and this Rav Mordechai Gimpel YOFFE family, and could they
see if Pinsk or Karlin and the name KANTOR or any other details
mentioned above appear there.

Shavua Tov,

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel


Research and Frustration #rabbinic

seforimlover
 

I am presently working on a genealogy of the LORBERBAUM family.
R' Yakov LORBERBAUM the father of this family died about 170 years
ago. This genealogy has a two fold aim,

1. To list all the ancestors of the LORBERBAUM family.
2. To list all of Rabbi Yakov LORBERBAUM's descendants.

Objective number 2 is beset with problems that any genealogist
determined to trace his family's roots encounters, and I am fine with
that. However, with regards to objective no. 1, I have encountered
problems of an entirely different nature, that just leave me very
frustrated.

R' Yakov LORBERBAUM was desendant >from a very prominent rabbinical
lineage. There are literally thousands of sources available for
research. However the problem is that the majority of these sources
are not rigorous to any degree whatsoever, frequently conflict with
each other and are frequently just plain wrong.

I am researching the following families: HOROWITZ, THEOMIM, ASHKENAZY,
MIRELS-HELLER, LIFSHITZ, MARGOLIS amongst others. Given the importance
of these families and their numerous desecendants one would think it
would be easy to locate rigorous meticulously documented
genealogies... Dream on.... There is not a single comprehensive
genealogy of any of these families. Talking with various members of
these families who are indeed researching their genealogy, reveals
that none of these members are even thinking of forming an accurate
genealogy.

This leaves me with the laborious task of checking and rechecking
statements, trying to track down elusive sources, faulty citations,
and correcting misunderstandings.

What I am asking for is as follows, Can anyone recommend a superbly
researched work with full references on any of the above families, or
any rabbinical family for that matter. I am referring to material of
the caliber published by Rabbi Shlomo Englard and the like. The
majority of genealogies today do not contain any referencing
whatsoever. Alternatively, would anybody like to get together and
pool all available resources and thereby form something greater than
any of our individual efforts. I have the beginnings of an idea for
creating a rabbinical data base but would need a great deal of effort
to get it off the ground.

All the best,

Yehuda Herskowitz


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic SCHATZKES and YOFFE families #rabbinic

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

I've asked this before but since much of my previous corresponce was
lost:

In searching my late great grandmother's family, I've come across
several personalities, family names, and/or places which are a
puzzle that I cannot seem to put together.

My great greatuncle, Chaim Dov KANTOR, of the Moshav Meir Shfeya
in Israel, born in Pinsk (or Karlin), writes in his diary of a
rabbinical figure in his family (probably during the first half of
the 19th cent. in Pinsk or Karlin) named Mordechai (RUDINER or
RUZINER), possibly being an AB"D there.

In the course of my search I came across both family names of
SCHATZKES of the famous Lomza Rav who eventually came to Yeshiva
College in New York (RIETS). By coincidence or not, Chaim Dov's
mother's maiden name was SCHATZ, could it have been SCHATZKES and
not SCHATZ?

It was also mentioned to me by one of the WEISFISCH family in
Jerusalem, who are descendants of my above uncle Chaim Dov, of some
connection with Reb Mordechai Gimpel YOFFE who came many years ago
to Eretz Yisrael (to Or Yehuda?).

In various notes and sketches that haven't been verified, it's
mentioned that the SCHATZ side may have stemmed >from the family of
Reb Chaim meVolozhin. >from the KANTOR side appears the name of
Eliezer >from Slonim.

To my question: Does anyone have the family trees of the SCHATZKES
family and this Rav Mordechai Gimpel YOFFE family, and could they
see if Pinsk or Karlin and the name KANTOR or any other details
mentioned above appear there.

Shavua Tov,

Yoni Ben-Ari
Efrat, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Research and Frustration #rabbinic

seforimlover
 

I am presently working on a genealogy of the LORBERBAUM family.
R' Yakov LORBERBAUM the father of this family died about 170 years
ago. This genealogy has a two fold aim,

1. To list all the ancestors of the LORBERBAUM family.
2. To list all of Rabbi Yakov LORBERBAUM's descendants.

Objective number 2 is beset with problems that any genealogist
determined to trace his family's roots encounters, and I am fine with
that. However, with regards to objective no. 1, I have encountered
problems of an entirely different nature, that just leave me very
frustrated.

R' Yakov LORBERBAUM was desendant >from a very prominent rabbinical
lineage. There are literally thousands of sources available for
research. However the problem is that the majority of these sources
are not rigorous to any degree whatsoever, frequently conflict with
each other and are frequently just plain wrong.

I am researching the following families: HOROWITZ, THEOMIM, ASHKENAZY,
MIRELS-HELLER, LIFSHITZ, MARGOLIS amongst others. Given the importance
of these families and their numerous desecendants one would think it
would be easy to locate rigorous meticulously documented
genealogies... Dream on.... There is not a single comprehensive
genealogy of any of these families. Talking with various members of
these families who are indeed researching their genealogy, reveals
that none of these members are even thinking of forming an accurate
genealogy.

This leaves me with the laborious task of checking and rechecking
statements, trying to track down elusive sources, faulty citations,
and correcting misunderstandings.

What I am asking for is as follows, Can anyone recommend a superbly
researched work with full references on any of the above families, or
any rabbinical family for that matter. I am referring to material of
the caliber published by Rabbi Shlomo Englard and the like. The
majority of genealogies today do not contain any referencing
whatsoever. Alternatively, would anybody like to get together and
pool all available resources and thereby form something greater than
any of our individual efforts. I have the beginnings of an idea for
creating a rabbinical data base but would need a great deal of effort
to get it off the ground.

All the best,

Yehuda Herskowitz


Requested photo from New Jersey cemetery-problem #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

I sent a check to a firm that manages the Newark Jewish Cemeteries, in early
October, to take a photo of a gravestone. Despite numerous phone calls, I
have yet to receive the photo, though they have cashed my check-$25!

Does anyone have any ideas as to how I may resolve this?

Thank you,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Requested photo from New Jersey cemetery-problem #general

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

I sent a check to a firm that manages the Newark Jewish Cemeteries, in early
October, to take a photo of a gravestone. Despite numerous phone calls, I
have yet to receive the photo, though they have cashed my check-$25!

Does anyone have any ideas as to how I may resolve this?

Thank you,
Denise Azbill
Las Vegas, NV


Eliezer ben Yacov of Slonim #rabbinic

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Sometime ago, someone asked about rabbis who gave "haskamot" for the
book Shaar Hadrushim-chemdat Hayamim. Since an Eliezer of Slonim
appears in a superficial family tree sketch (during the early part
of the 19th cent) I'm wondering if anyone has a family tree of
Eliezer of Slonim.

Shabbat Shalom,

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Eliezer ben Yacov of Slonim #rabbinic

ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Sometime ago, someone asked about rabbis who gave "haskamot" for the
book Shaar Hadrushim-chemdat Hayamim. Since an Eliezer of Slonim
appears in a superficial family tree sketch (during the early part
of the 19th cent) I'm wondering if anyone has a family tree of
Eliezer of Slonim.

Shabbat Shalom,

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel