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Sir Charles ROSENTHAL - Australian architect #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

There is an interesting item about Sir Charles ROSENTHAL [1875-1954] on

http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/rosenthal.htm

He is described as a successful architect - but a poor businessman. He had a
distinguished military career and was knighted in 1919. >from 1926-30
Rosenthal served as president of the New South Wales Institute of Architects
and was also a fellow of the Royal Institute of British Architects.
He finally returned to his home in Sydney in 1948, where he retired.

Could this be the Rosenthal architect living in either Sydney or Melbourne
in the 1940s that Alan GLIXMAN is looking for? If so, I hope this posting
provides a lead to finding his family.

Celia Male [UK}


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sir Charles ROSENTHAL - Australian architect #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

There is an interesting item about Sir Charles ROSENTHAL [1875-1954] on

http://www.firstworldwar.com/bio/rosenthal.htm

He is described as a successful architect - but a poor businessman. He had a
distinguished military career and was knighted in 1919. >from 1926-30
Rosenthal served as president of the New South Wales Institute of Architects
and was also a fellow of the Royal Institute of British Architects.
He finally returned to his home in Sydney in 1948, where he retired.

Could this be the Rosenthal architect living in either Sydney or Melbourne
in the 1940s that Alan GLIXMAN is looking for? If so, I hope this posting
provides a lead to finding his family.

Celia Male [UK}


Re: COHEN/KOHN with EINHORN #general

Michele Russell-Einhorn
 

I would be interested in hearing >from anyone who is researching COHEN/KOHN
from the Austro-Hungarian Empire and has found an EINHORN as the name of
someone who married a COHEN/KOHN

Thanks,
Michele Russell-Einhorn
kahluamr@bellatlantic.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: COHEN/KOHN with EINHORN #general

Michele Russell-Einhorn
 

I would be interested in hearing >from anyone who is researching COHEN/KOHN
from the Austro-Hungarian Empire and has found an EINHORN as the name of
someone who married a COHEN/KOHN

Thanks,
Michele Russell-Einhorn
kahluamr@bellatlantic.net


New Jersey obit assistance? #general

Wendy Griswold <gris@...>
 

Hi, Cousins.

Does anyone know where I would look for an obit on someone who passed away
in 1999 in Clark, Union (county) New Jersey?

Many thanks,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington VA

Researching
BLITZ, PFEIFFER - Zhurawno (near Lvov)
DWASS/DAVIS - Ekaterinoslaw (Dniepropetstrovsk), Ukraine
EINHORN, WENELBERG - Galicia (Mlynczyska, Catowisce, Ochotnica, Palesnica,
Nowy Sacz, Czarny Dunajec), Chicago, New Jersey, Los Angeles, Miami
GARFINKEL - Witebsk, Belarus


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Jersey obit assistance? #general

Wendy Griswold <gris@...>
 

Hi, Cousins.

Does anyone know where I would look for an obit on someone who passed away
in 1999 in Clark, Union (county) New Jersey?

Many thanks,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington VA

Researching
BLITZ, PFEIFFER - Zhurawno (near Lvov)
DWASS/DAVIS - Ekaterinoslaw (Dniepropetstrovsk), Ukraine
EINHORN, WENELBERG - Galicia (Mlynczyska, Catowisce, Ochotnica, Palesnica,
Nowy Sacz, Czarny Dunajec), Chicago, New Jersey, Los Angeles, Miami
GARFINKEL - Witebsk, Belarus


Re: Need medical opinion re: death certificate - England 1898 #general

Laurence Harris <Laurence@...>
 

Saul Goldstone asked whether a death certificate would be issued for the
foetus of an ancestor who died in pregnancy in England in 1898.

from 1874 to 1927, a death certificate was required for the burial of a
stillborn child in England and Wales. The current position (2004) is
that that 'stillborn' is defined as when a baby is born dead after the
24th week of pregnancy. I am not sure what the definition of stillborn
was in 1898. In any event, it may be worth searching for a death
certificate for the baby.

If, on the other hand, the death of the mother was very late in
pregnancy and the baby lived, even if only for a few minutes, then the
birth should have been registered and, consequently, there might be a
birth certificate.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Need medical opinion re: death certificate - England 1898 #general

Laurence Harris <Laurence@...>
 

Saul Goldstone asked whether a death certificate would be issued for the
foetus of an ancestor who died in pregnancy in England in 1898.

from 1874 to 1927, a death certificate was required for the burial of a
stillborn child in England and Wales. The current position (2004) is
that that 'stillborn' is defined as when a baby is born dead after the
24th week of pregnancy. I am not sure what the definition of stillborn
was in 1898. In any event, it may be worth searching for a death
certificate for the baby.

If, on the other hand, the death of the mother was very late in
pregnancy and the baby lived, even if only for a few minutes, then the
birth should have been registered and, consequently, there might be a
birth certificate.

Laurence Harris
Pinner, Middlesex, England


Re: Correct Naming of Places in UK, USA & Canada #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

A genner asked:

"Although the UK (United Kingdom) is one country made up primarily of
England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Island, I have noticed that most
genealogical sites list them as individual "Countries" when one does a
search. Is there an accepted nomenclature when one enters a place name?"


It really depends on where your are entering the place name, and every web
site is potentially different.

I wouldn't dare to speak for British customs, but in the FHL CD and on their
website when you search by placename, you put in city and 'within' or 'part
of' as they are now-not as when you are looking. For US, Canada, and Great
Britain that hasn't changed much over any of our lifetimes. In Great
Britain, Ireland and England are the countries. You can also include county
names as a level between city and state-that is, an American county, a
British shire would be entered as a state. Buffalo could be within Erie
(county) or within New York (state) or within United States. London (the
big one that you are asking about) would be within England, but the FHL has
it also within Middlesex and within London (which they list as if it were a
shire as well as a city). Leeds would be within York or England. You can
list London alone as well, but you will get London, Ontario and every other
London >from which to choose.

Please note that the FHL has records for Ireland as a whole (the centralized
birth records for example) which would be listed under Ireland but with
neither United Kingdom nor Great Britain as a larger entity and similarly
you could get records for the United States or Canada as a whole.. You can
similarly search for county and state records for any country.

In most other web sites, I think you would have to experiment-personally I
would try England or Ireland, etc. before I tried Great Britain or the
United Kingdom (see, even this name says there are several kingdoms
(countries) which have united). You would have similar problems in other
countries, Germany has Prussia which has Pomerania within it, which has many
counties and lots of towns. Would Prussia be the State? Or is Pomerania?
I think it depends on who is writing the software.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Correct Naming of Places in UK, USA & Canada #general

Sally M. Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

A genner asked:

"Although the UK (United Kingdom) is one country made up primarily of
England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Island, I have noticed that most
genealogical sites list them as individual "Countries" when one does a
search. Is there an accepted nomenclature when one enters a place name?"


It really depends on where your are entering the place name, and every web
site is potentially different.

I wouldn't dare to speak for British customs, but in the FHL CD and on their
website when you search by placename, you put in city and 'within' or 'part
of' as they are now-not as when you are looking. For US, Canada, and Great
Britain that hasn't changed much over any of our lifetimes. In Great
Britain, Ireland and England are the countries. You can also include county
names as a level between city and state-that is, an American county, a
British shire would be entered as a state. Buffalo could be within Erie
(county) or within New York (state) or within United States. London (the
big one that you are asking about) would be within England, but the FHL has
it also within Middlesex and within London (which they list as if it were a
shire as well as a city). Leeds would be within York or England. You can
list London alone as well, but you will get London, Ontario and every other
London >from which to choose.

Please note that the FHL has records for Ireland as a whole (the centralized
birth records for example) which would be listed under Ireland but with
neither United Kingdom nor Great Britain as a larger entity and similarly
you could get records for the United States or Canada as a whole.. You can
similarly search for county and state records for any country.

In most other web sites, I think you would have to experiment-personally I
would try England or Ireland, etc. before I tried Great Britain or the
United Kingdom (see, even this name says there are several kingdoms
(countries) which have united). You would have similar problems in other
countries, Germany has Prussia which has Pomerania within it, which has many
counties and lots of towns. Would Prussia be the State? Or is Pomerania?
I think it depends on who is writing the software.

Sally Bruckheimer
Harrison, NY


Payment to Slovak archives #hungary

amira <amira_m@...>
 

Hi everyone,

I need some advice: How do I pay to the Slovak archive [the money they want
for the research they did] >from Israel ?
I thought I could pass the money through the Mail Bank: Western Union /
Eurogiro, but it looks too complicated. I'm afraid the archive would not
except payment by this way.
what should I do ? Does someone has any suggestion ?
[They write that they except international money order or check].

please answer privately, amira_m@masaryk.org.il

Thank you, Amira Mashiah, kibbutz Kfar masaryk, Israel.

Searching for Stein, Dubovicz, Reicher,Zinger / Singer, Wachsberger -
Slovakia.
Searching for Neu, Stein, Spagatner - Hungary.

Moderator VK: I am responding to Amira's question on-line to assist others who may have requested records >from the Slovak Archives. In my experience, the Slovak archives do not request payment in advance. On the occasions when the Slovak Archives found documents for me they sent a letter requested payment by cash, money order or cashier's check payable to the Slovak Embassy. No personal checks or credit cards are accepted. I obtained a cashier's check >from my bank and sent it by regular mail, and received the document about a week later.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Payment to Slovak archives #hungary

amira <amira_m@...>
 

Hi everyone,

I need some advice: How do I pay to the Slovak archive [the money they want
for the research they did] >from Israel ?
I thought I could pass the money through the Mail Bank: Western Union /
Eurogiro, but it looks too complicated. I'm afraid the archive would not
except payment by this way.
what should I do ? Does someone has any suggestion ?
[They write that they except international money order or check].

please answer privately, amira_m@masaryk.org.il

Thank you, Amira Mashiah, kibbutz Kfar masaryk, Israel.

Searching for Stein, Dubovicz, Reicher,Zinger / Singer, Wachsberger -
Slovakia.
Searching for Neu, Stein, Spagatner - Hungary.

Moderator VK: I am responding to Amira's question on-line to assist others who may have requested records >from the Slovak Archives. In my experience, the Slovak archives do not request payment in advance. On the occasions when the Slovak Archives found documents for me they sent a letter requested payment by cash, money order or cashier's check payable to the Slovak Embassy. No personal checks or credit cards are accepted. I obtained a cashier's check >from my bank and sent it by regular mail, and received the document about a week later.


SCHERMER #hungary

Avraham <avrofek@...>
 

Shalom all,
Irv Schermer, an American genealogist who lived in Jerusalem for many years,
returned to the US last summer. Irv is an expert of the Schermer family and
I need his help re that family.
If anyone can help me find him I'd be much obliged.
Thank you.
Avraham Ofek
Netanya, Israel

Moderator VK: Please contact Avraham off-list if you can help.


Re: nickname for Therese #hungary

ilona lerman <phililona2001@...>
 

I had a great aunt named Therese. I found on the
family records >from Kis-Tata someone named Rezi about
the time of her birth. Could Rezi be nickname for or
equivalent to Therese?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Ilona Lerman
phililona2001@yahoo. com


Hungary SIG #Hungary SCHERMER #hungary

Avraham <avrofek@...>
 

Shalom all,
Irv Schermer, an American genealogist who lived in Jerusalem for many years,
returned to the US last summer. Irv is an expert of the Schermer family and
I need his help re that family.
If anyone can help me find him I'd be much obliged.
Thank you.
Avraham Ofek
Netanya, Israel

Moderator VK: Please contact Avraham off-list if you can help.


Hungary SIG #Hungary re: nickname for Therese #hungary

ilona lerman <phililona2001@...>
 

I had a great aunt named Therese. I found on the
family records >from Kis-Tata someone named Rezi about
the time of her birth. Could Rezi be nickname for or
equivalent to Therese?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Ilona Lerman
phililona2001@yahoo. com


Re: Ignatz STEIN and Ahavath Chesed #hungary

NORMAN FUHRER
 

In checking over a copy of the Marriage Certificate for Aaron FUHRER and
Rose BERKOWITZ, we found the signature of Ignatz STEIN -- as person
performing the Ceremony. In a "google" search, we found that an Ignatz
STEIN was President of Ahavath Chesed -- this was listed in an 1869 New York
City Directory under Synagogues. Another google item showed that in 1848
the Ahavath Chesed Congregation had their own synagogue which stood on 133
Ridge St in NYC. Their first Rabbi was Falkman Teberich, while Ignatz STEIN
was president of the Congregation.

Does anyone have any further information regarding Ignatz STEIN? Under his
signature is the name Benai M. Jacob -- 219 East 7th Street, Manhattan. It
would appear that Mr. STEIN would have been quite advanced in age when he
performed the Marriage Ceremony.

Aaron FUHRER and Rose BERKOWITZ were married in NYC on June 18, 1916 at
their apartment located at 327 East 16th ST in Manhattan.

Thank you in advance.

Norm and Jean Fuhrer
On Florida's Spacecoast -- USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Ignatz STEIN and Ahavath Chesed #hungary

NORMAN FUHRER
 

In checking over a copy of the Marriage Certificate for Aaron FUHRER and
Rose BERKOWITZ, we found the signature of Ignatz STEIN -- as person
performing the Ceremony. In a "google" search, we found that an Ignatz
STEIN was President of Ahavath Chesed -- this was listed in an 1869 New York
City Directory under Synagogues. Another google item showed that in 1848
the Ahavath Chesed Congregation had their own synagogue which stood on 133
Ridge St in NYC. Their first Rabbi was Falkman Teberich, while Ignatz STEIN
was president of the Congregation.

Does anyone have any further information regarding Ignatz STEIN? Under his
signature is the name Benai M. Jacob -- 219 East 7th Street, Manhattan. It
would appear that Mr. STEIN would have been quite advanced in age when he
performed the Marriage Ceremony.

Aaron FUHRER and Rose BERKOWITZ were married in NYC on June 18, 1916 at
their apartment located at 327 East 16th ST in Manhattan.

Thank you in advance.

Norm and Jean Fuhrer
On Florida's Spacecoast -- USA


Re: Austro-Hungarian Passports #hungary

alex p miller <alex.miller@...>
 

i looked at lds films:
0845582 index years 1792-1809
0845897 index year 1896

so there are others for years in between

includes: name, date, place of birth, nationality


On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 23:31:09 -0700 "B Frederics"
<picturethisfilm@email.com> writes:

Alex, would you mind sharing the film #'s for those LDS films which
list
Austro-Hungarian passports? I haven't found any.

Thanks.

Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com

Seeking: ZEISLER (Budapest, Eger, DiosGyor, Kazincz)


*re: Name change--research tool #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Hello folks:

The Mormons have this book on microfilm number 0897093 Item 2
The book's correct and full title is:
Sza'zadunk ne'vva'ltoztata'sai: helytarto'sa'gi e's miniszteri
engede'lylyel megva'ltoztatott nevek gyu"jteme'nye, 1800-1893
(Name changes of our century: Collection of names changed with
ministerial or local permits - 1800-1893)

I would be very much interested in the registers Alex mentions
regards
Tom

At 00:00 -0600 08.01.04, H-SIG digest wrote:
Subject: Name change--research tool
From: alex p miller <alex.miller@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 08:35:44 -0500
X-Message-Number: 7

Around 1908 a register was published by the Hungarian Government that
listed all the changes in last names of individuals(I don't know the
exact time frame, but certainly includes the bulk of the changes which
occurred late 19th century)

Alex Miller

Moderator VK: Good news! We have a database that will soon be
submitted that includes names found in an 1895 book reporting name
changes. The title of the book,Szasadunk Nevvaltoztatasai
1800-1893. ... I don't know if the book has been filmed by the FHL.
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Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br>
Sao Paulo - Brazil